YOU GOT THE TOUCH

I liked that Galvatron just didn't step on the crown, but he dragged his foot on it. Also, cape and crown Starscream looked cool as hell.

i assumed he meant the matrix of leadership was a drug-carrying device but yours make more sense

I still hate that faggot to this day

Because Starscream was a preening faggot.

How the hell did I forget about Hot Rod?

I'll rip out your optics!

Van Hager era was really fucking good and doesn't deserve any of the hate

NUTHINS GONNA STAND IN OUR WAY
NOT TONIGHT

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THERE DEFENSE ARE BROKEN! LET THE SLAUGHTER BEGIN!

The best thing about having an Amazon Echo is having "The Touch" on demand.
Preparing vegetables: The Touch
Cleaning surfaces and polishing: The Touch
Doing accounting books: The Touch
Pretty much any task that would suck to do without The Touch: The Touch
Just one of the hypest songs of all time.
A song so good Stan Bush tried to re-do it years later to top it and ended up making it a lot worse.
I always rewatch this movie once a year. I'm so happy I got the awesome anniversary blu-ray version.

Because that's his deadname.

He leveled up and became Rodimus Prime.

YOUR BARGAINING POSITION IS DUBIOUS

>be named Sparkplug
>have a kid
>name him Spike
>be Spike
>have a kid
>name him Daniel
checks out.

> This is bad comedy
In hindsight this film had alot of kino lines

True facts.

G: "ME GRIMLOCK WANT YOU TO TELL MORE OLD WAR STORIES."
Kup: "You're living one now."

Is this ideon?

NO ONE SUMMONS MEGATRON

this

THEN IT PLEASES ME TO BE THE FIRST

DARE
DARE TO BELIEVE YOU CAN SURVIVE

STATE YOUR BUSINESS

kup was great as the grizzled veteran, the voice actor had the perfect raspy old warrior voice for him too
Hot Rod: 'Not bad for an old timer!"
Kup: "Old timer? that's something you'll never be if you don't get back to the city."

kino casting, too. imagine making a movie version of a saturday cartoon and thinking, "We need Orson Welles, Spock, and someone who sounds like Ernest Borgnine."

The cynic will say this movie exists to sell more toys. The true wise man does not buy the toys, and just enjoys the kino.

This film is unironic kino. You don't even really need to know much about the Transformers going in and it's still perfect. Easily one of the best animated films of the 20th century.

Orson Welles on Unicron
>I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed. My plan to destroy Whoever-it-is is thwarted and I tear myself apart on the screen.

Based as fuck. Like all great movies, T:TM has a rich behind-the-scenes history of weirdness and mayhem.

I saw this in the cinema back then when I was a kid - at a time when you still got stewards walking around selling you icecream and candy WHILE the movie played. Good times. UK comics were also great.

>In fact, some evidence suggests Welles was excited to be on the cast of the movie; even providing some potential dialogue for Unicron and comparing the film to Lear in a script note dated to August 11th, 1985.

The behind the scenes for this movie is great.

i love this movie, fuck orson welles

mwhaaAAaaaAhhHh

The fwench MAtrix

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this film is a fucking fever dream.

the blaring 80s music, all the iconic character deaths, megatron meeting orson welles and turning into leonard nemoy, weird al yankovic, eric idle, it really is fucking surreal.

Fuck all Decepticons.

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The writting for that movie had no business being as good as it was, I love it.

>nobody summons Megatron!
>then it pleases me to be the first

The Touch is such a gay song though, literally every other song on the soundtrack is better, and Dare is the better Stan Bush song.

>Daniel becomes a Sparkplug that spikes into Arcee

Checks out.

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*ahem*
Fuck Autobots, and fuck humans.

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>your bargaining posture is highly dubious

I like both songs though. In fact I listen to the whole soundtrack, I know the lyrics to Dare to Be Stupid off by heart (big Weird Al fan), it's just that my autistic little brother loves The Touch the most and its the best way to hype him up.
There's another Transformers Stan Bush song that's great too: Til all are One.
Plus the guy did some other movie soundtrack songs that are cool, like Bloodsport theme Fight to Survive

Seeing the opening where a whole planet is devoured in spectacular fashion was breathtaking.

Definitely took a chance with the kiddies, but it respected them enough to understand concepts like death.

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it was prime's fault for launching the shuttle without waiting for reinforcements, impatient bastard

MIGHT AS WELL JUMP (JUMP!)

>that hair metal version of the theme
THE TRANSFORMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHS
youtu.be/eaVcpfncOWs

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Pathetic fools there is no escape.

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Die Autobots!

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fanks for the nostalgia clips

>perhaps I misjudged you
>proceed, on your way to oblivion

youtube.com/watch?v=hzNsOGt3bHk

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Unicron was the realest nigga.

This movie had such fucking balls. They killed off every major character and had no intention of bringing them back.

The toy companies had no idea they couldn't just swap out Optimus Prime with some other red leader. Disney is about to learn the same lesson with the avengers---you can't replace Tony Stark.

>look at 0:33
>wait is that
>0:35
Oh nonono
>0:36
Megatron is so fucking tiny as a gun

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>"Megatron must be stopped, no matter the cost"
>"OH NO, A COST"

>The true wise man does not buy the toys, and just enjoys the kino.
Why not both?

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It's not that good. The animation looks very barebones, see how in the OP pic Optimus has light and shadow on him? You never see that in the movie, all the robots are evenly colored with no lighting effects and the color is ashy.

The pacing also has problems, it doesn't feel like there's a lot of buildup or anticipation for the big fights, and despite all the spectacular events most of the locations are kind of drab except for the inside of Unicron with the crazy effects.

I first saw the movie in like 1989 or 90 on vhs. I was maybe 6 or 7. I missed a lot of season 2 and missed season 3 completely and I was just collecting the G2 toys. So seeing Optimus die was kinda shocking. I didn't cry but it left a hollow, hard to describe feeling in my chest as a little kid.

My dad wasn't really around and as lame and sad and cheesy as it sounds Optimus Prime was a bit of a father figure in my life.

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Hell yeah baby, I have all of those except the Masterpiece one plus the excellent Transformers Animated one and the one from Power of the Primes. I missed the regular Hot Rod toy as a kid but picked up the reissue recently and fricken love it.

It's not a masterpiece but, I dunno. You had to sorta be there pre 2000's when the world felt more closed off and bigger to everyone I guess. We didn't have it all like we do now.

>The animation looks very barebones, see how in the OP pic Optimus has light and shadow on him?
compared to what else around 1986, contrarian?

FEED HIM TO THE SHARKTICONS

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I feel like the movie was made in a little bit of a rush to keep with the momentum of the TV series since the TV series leads on straight from the movie too.
Its a like a movie special of the show they planned out, but then threw the money in to make it into an actual movie for theatres. Its a little janky at parts but amazing what they managed to put into the movie in such a short span of time. I feel it has really great dialogue and character moments. And the music is superb.

I took that picture before I sold off the Titanium since he was a bit redundant. I also realized only after the fact that I forgot to include the Micromaster in the group shot.

>My dad wasn't really around and as lame and sad and cheesy as it sounds Optimus Prime was a bit of a father figure in my life.
I've heard this story a lot. It probably explains why people are still salty about Optimus Prime dying to this day, despite they brought him back to life and all.

I didn't see the movie until I was old enough to drink, and I didn't see the TV series until later. I grew up exclusively with the toys and the Marvel comic, the latter probably being the reason I was so nonplussed by Prime's death.

Do you own the TFA Hot Rod? I'm telling you man, it's great. Transformers Animated's toyline somehow figured out how to do real life mass shifting, it's so cool. Small car, big robot.

>I would've waited an eternity for this. It's over, Prime.

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Nah, the Animated's aesthetic never appealed to me. I only ever got Blackarachnia and Waspinator and I ended up selling the latter because the toy was kind of lame. I mostly just stick to G1 exclusively because that's where the emotional connection is. I've ended up selling most of my modern TFs because I realized they lack that connection.

If anyone cares, here's the Transformers OST:
mega.nz/#F!08tGTaJS!fe8E7pnEiRaVPBvetEklhA

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I'm a pretty hardcore G1 guy, I prefer the older looks but I like them when they are updated as well as long as you can tell who's who. But the Hot Rod figure is really worth it, even if you don't like the style he stands out among that line.

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Faggotron

I support the decision to kill Optimus. Its just perfect for what the film was trying to do: Introduce a new team of Autobots trying to step up to the plate and be heroes.
From the TV series you'd know Autobot leadership goes in cycles. Prime himself was made into a hero by circumstance and replaces the guy he looked up to too.
Its Autobot culture to follow their ageless leader until he dies and maybe someone else takes over. There's no risk to the Autobots if Optimus is alive. You see it in the series all the time. If Optimus is around and shit goes down, every Autobot around just basically runs to hide behind him and he sorts their shit out, or puts the go ahead in the plan someone else comes up with.
So him dying, its a true "oh shit" moment for the Autobots. The cycle is broken and with Unicorn also about its chaos. Chaos till everyone gets their shit sorted, regroups and take on Unicron and get the matrix of leadership back.
Bringing Otpimus back from the dead was a least pretty kino both times they did it. With the fakeout, and his actual return.
What makes me sad is that Rodimus/Hot Rod didn't get a proper shot at things as a leader or his own group and adventures. At least in the OG TV series anyway.

I feel like it's some sort of running gag that both sides in G1 get incompetent pretty fast without leadership.

You are not the only one to feel that way.
His protection of the humans mirrors the way father's protect their children. Shielding them from terrors they are blissfully unaware of. Protecting them until they are strong enough to hold their own.

This is why we scoffs when we are told girls and other cultures need representation so they have someone to look up to. Because an entire generation of boys looked up to a fucking Robot.

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This is why I liked the dynamic of Kup and Hotrod. Kup is one of the few Autobots that acts independently and shows a lot of competence. He's an old vet and his lack of proper maintenance often let's him down, but that's usually because he's almost always right in the action. A "patches me up Doc and let's get on with it" kind of guy.
What's nice is he's not afraid to stand up to Optimus, (though he's greatly respectable of him) or follow orders blindly and not take the opportunity to do his own thing or adapt the plan so he doesnt get killed.
He has a lot in common with Ironhide, Ironhide is Optimus' rock, (until Bumblebee learns to take that mantle), but Ironhide is a little too loyal and battle proud for his own good and gets tricked a lot. Rodimus is a lot more fast and loose than Prime, which Kup is good at working with. (He's a little fast and loose too, though no so much the fast cos he's old, but definitely the loose)
Kup doesn't lead because he doesn't want to, not that he couldn't. Hes pretty gokd at giving orders in the short term. He's doesn't like that flashyness, or power upgrade, or the attention that the leader gets. That kind of stuff is likely to get you killed. The enemy almost always targets the leader first. All he wants is someone to listen to him and work with him from time to time when the needs there.

>HEY WHEELJACK! I BET REAL DINOSAURS HAD METAL SKIN TOO!

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Watched this in a theater a few months back and there were nothing but nasty Filipinos everywhere!

Fucking Rodimus. Still prefer him over Ultra Fagnus.

>OPTIMUS, WAIT! UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTION WE MUST FIRST REQUEST THEY SURREND-

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I still think he had potential to be a better leader than Prime ever could be.
You think Hotrod is incompetent then look at how crap Orion Pax was at his job. Hotrod made mistakes, sure, but Orion Pax made even worse, very fatal ones, and its a miracle that Optimus Prime is so good as he is.
Maybe he took the time to reflect on his failures as Pax and get his shit together.
I think all Hotrod needed as Rodimus was time, the audience sadly just didn't take.

My nigga, that's my favorite episode he did.

Has there been any stuff about the lead up from G1 to the Beast era?

Amazingly there isn't, to this day it's a complete mystery except for the bits and pieces Beast Wars told us.

That's not Optimus Prime, it's his twin brother Optimus War Crime

That's too bad. They tried to do something in the first few botcon comics, but now it's all multiverse shit.

i never got beast wars. were there really animal parts hanging off of their janky metal bodies?

It's so fucking stupid. Why would they need to pretend to be animals in the first place?

I wish there was too. It seems like a real interesting and unexplored period, especially since it's widely accepted G1 guys like Grimlock, Ironhide, Prowl and the original Silverbolt survive well into the Beast Era, with the latter 3 being the Maximal Elders Primal speaks of.

>I got better things to do tonight than die!
Or my personal favorite
>Such heroic nonsense

>Would you like to beg for your lives? It sometimes helps but not oftennnnnnnnnnnn

They needed the animal bodies because they actually time travelled to pre-historic Earth, which was too radioactive for them to survive long in robot mode, the organic beast modes shielded them

Seriously though, don't underestimate Beast Wars. It has some intense fucking moments.

youtube.com/watch?v=A9t7G_lHeiY

For context, this Megatron named himself after the original, and is attempting to continue his legacy by travelling back in time and murdering Optimus Prime. The reason he's smaller than the G1 bots is because the transformer race had to undergo a downsize in order to conserve fuel. Hence the arrogant "Archaic energon guzzlers" line.

>organic flesh is better at surviving radiation than being a robot
Yeah, this is even more retarded than I thought

Biomechanical shells. Some convention comics explained it as a further development of the Pretender technology.

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they kind of had a gay relationship, as Megatron hardly ever transformed, but when he did, only Starscream ever held him

A specific kind of Energon radiation that only affects Cybertronians.

i know scorponok is a headmaster and all so i guess he would be a genius? but isn't he the size of a fucking city?

>The animation looks very barebones,
It was 1986.
>it doesn't feel like there's a lot of buildup or anticipation for the big fights,
I feel what you're saying, but that's why it worked for me. No dudes rolling up their sleeves or huge music cues every time, just someone suddenly fires a gun or punches a robot, with no warning, and you're in it. That's why I love it.

The comics and cartoons had different scales.

Yeah specifically it was Energon radiation, their fuel. Energon in its raw form is established to be extremely volatile and dangerous to Cybertronians, and in Beast Wars Prehistoric Earth is littered with it.

>The animation looks very barebones

Nigga what? There's plenty of detail and shadding in the movie.

A bunch of mecha anime movies from the 80s look better: Macross Do You Remember Love, some Gundam movies, Wings of Honneamise for example.

Constructions inferior.
Soundwave superior.

kino.

it's like if they took any rando saturday morning cartoon and were like, "We need a movie, let's hire the Game of Thrones guys," and then they did it. Imagine a Spongebob movie where they're invaded by zombies from the arctic and Patrick dies screaming. It's insane.

>most of the locations are kind of drab except for the inside of Unicron with the crazy effects.

Drab how? It's a ruined future pop sci-fi aesthetic that works great for the story.

recently rewatched it in hd. depends on the scene really. it's evident some scenes were rushed but the scenes they took their time with are really well done

>Kup doesn't lead because he doesn't want to, not that he couldn't. Hes pretty gokd at giving orders in the short term. He's doesn't like that flashyness, or power upgrade, or the attention that the leader gets.
The hallmarks of a good Lieutenant, every good leader has one.

kino.

also the Insecticons getting absolutely fucked up every time they appeared.

I don't think we watched the same movie. The whole thing felt like an exciting cross between a grim British sci-fi magazine like 2000A.D. and a better done anime OVA.

>111 posts
>haven't quoted the best line in the movie..

GUILTY OR INNOCENT

Forgot pic.

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it's def got a Heavy Metal feel to certain parts of it. like the junk planet and quintessons

Most of the locations are kind of undifferentiated, Some of the sweeping shots of Cybertron look cool but most of the backdrops for the action are just "metal walls and floor." There are better artificial environments in anime movies like Laputa, Leda, the Dangaioh and Megazone 23 OVAs, others I can't recall. Where the setting makes the event more dramatic instead of just being wallpaper.

the only misstep in the entire movie the junkion dance party
everything else is pure kino

also they put ultra magnus back together again right away after he was killed which puts into question why they didn't do that with all the other guys that got slaughtered

That's correct Satan, now get out.

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looks worse than Black Panther

And all of those films are going for a different atmosphere. TFTM is trying to be a grim sci-fi story about a ruined planet on the verge of destruction, and the settings will reflect the theme. Of course it's not going to look like Laputa.

this

also watching a light and fluffy underdeveloped cartoon stereotypical character die violently

>Not
>"HERE'S A HINT!"

i think it had something to do with their CPU, if that's cool then the rest is just a body.

which does not explain, of course, how inserting the matrix of leadership makes a robot grow four feet taller.

that's tough to top.

after four seasons or whatever it was, seeing Starscream die was like Godot showing up.

not
>"Nobody calls Soundwave unkrazamatic!"

*sip* Thinking about Orson. What a legend.

it also turned him into some kind of rad rv and gave him a little soul patch. i wouldn't think too much about it

>just starts running then down like dogs in the street
i couldn't stop laughing the first time i saw it

>HUNGER
>I WANT IT SO BAD I CAN TASTE IT
>IT DRIVES ME MAD TO SEE IT WASTED

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>CPU
That's not how Autobots work.

FIRST WE CRACK THE SHELL

THEN WE CRACK THE NUTS INSIDE

it stands to reason that a robot has a central processing unit. what do YOU think they run on? Dunkin?

Why would an alien silicon-based lifeform have the same design structure as a human computer?

MWAAAHHH THE FRENCH

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Actually keked

thanks user

>only Starscream ever held him
HAHA satan. But I thought Thundercracker, Skywarp and Soundwave fired him. I think it's in the damn opening credits for the show.

because it's alive.

humans have cpu's, it's called a "brain." stands to reason a robot has some metal or silicon thing running the show, yo.

i don't recall if the first two did, but you're right, Soundwave definitely did. I think there was some specific hierarchy, where the highest ranking Decepticon got that honor.

Soundwave was asexual though. Starscream was 100% an aggro self-hating gay.

They should make a transformer movie with Unicron being not the antagonist, but a presence and a force of nature.
Using an imitation of the original vocice by Orson and giving it the size of Saturn.
I would watch it

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fuck you man Blurr is fucking cool

Its fucking Starscream dude, he's been an asshole since day one.

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wouldn't that just be Galactus

nobody calls the boss uncrazzimatic!

>humans have cpu's, it's called a "brain."

That's not how a brain works.

Yeah. But I kinda want to see him fight Primus.

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A CLOUD

I really want to see something about post-Beast Machines Cybertron. They've made some Botcon stuff, but that's really just fanfiction.

Sixshot is such a fucking alpha

>Brawn, Ratchet, Ironhide and Prowl all completely bite it
imagine the faces of those little kids watching their heroes die.

now you're doing it on purpose.

how juvenile.

Equating a brain to a CPU is just misleading.

aeon.co/essays/your-brain-does-not-process-information-and-it-is-not-a-computer

i saw it as a kid. it didn't break my heart or anything, but it made me fully realize what the stakes were. still have affection for this movie for that level of kino.

like seriously, i didn't see that again until Game of Thrones. Though obviously the production value is higher there.

so true. this beats all of bays go-bots.
80's TF > *

Im currently in the process of watching all of G1 in order, so its kind of crazy to see Brawn as this tough-as-nails motherfucker in the show just get completely fucking destroyed by Megatron

I want Shattered Glass to get more mainstream love from Hasbro. they were gonna make it a major plot point on TF Animated if it didnt get cancelled.

I think its because Ultra Magnus is just really tough to destroy. He was built different to other Autobots (from two seperate ones and also upgraded ontop I believe) You can pull him apart at the joints and beat him in a fight, hes not very smart either, but he's got bulky armor that would easily protect his life-essence and his parts can sit there in stasis until repaired. I think only Unicron's acid pit thing could dissolve him.
Optimus in comparison is also big, but looks much more mobile and less heavily armored. Megatron kills him through a vulnerable body-wound.

right, right, my bad. of course my spleen is where information is processed, what was I thinking.

this is why i loved it. Stakes.

if you establish someone as a kino fighter, then they get annihilated by the Main Boss in two seconds, you realize the level of badassery you're dealing with.

I still like Mirage's "Surprise motherfuckers" moment from the original miniseries. I also like Starscream's standoff with Megatron before his treachery became comic relief.

youtube.com/watch?v=mvBKTUJvsj4

I've got better things to do tonight than die!

Plus I think its a massive difference between Galvatron and Megatron.
Megatron would have spent his time and effort trying to blow him to bits, and likely wasted a lot of time and letting the Autobots catch up to him or retaliate.
Galvatron likely leaves him like that to leave a message to other Autobots. To try to demotivate them from trying to fight back.

interesting how having checks and balances suddenly made the evil dude more evil. like Unicorn was there to keep his ego in check, "Knock that shit off, it's a sidequest. Matrix or GTFO."

yeah, Im on the episode "Megatron's Master Plan Part 1", season 2 is kino

Megatron and Galvatron were the same guy at that point though. If anything, Galvatron probably didn't stop to finish Magnus because once he got the Matrix he wanted to dash off to betray Unicron without skipping a beat. Whereas with Optimus he was trying to kill him once and for all.

Galvatron only really became a different personality when he went batshit insane after taking a lava bath

Because computers are silicone based

>silicone based
lets just assume i posted a picture of titties, were i not phone posting

>Megatron and Galvatron were the same guy at that point though.
Yes, but no.

Like I pointed out here:
... Megatron was an egomaniacal sociopath who could do whatever he wanted. Galvatron was the same dude with software installed that said "do what the fuck i say or I'll activate every pain sensor at once." It's like a really shitty update, I feel like there's a Google Chrome joke in here somewhere.

youtube.com/watch?v=sg0D1PpgCXs

It feels like the Galvatron and Megatron personas were splitting as time passed through the series. Maybe its a safety-feature for rebuilt transformers. Like suddenly being a different transformer would cause you to get messed up in the head, so the transformer retains the memories and persona from the original and over time and as situations evolve parts of the original persona get overwritten by the new one.
I imagine the Lava bath was like a huge trigger and a big overwrite of data.
Its also possible thats how they could eventually both separate into separate bots.

it looks amazing, you fucking fag

looks pretty good. action nice and smooth, can tell what's going on, no shaky cam at least here, I think this guy is onto something, i better keep an eye on this fella.

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It would just be pointless having them fighting in open space.
It's like watching 2 transformer fighting suspended in a dark void.

Better would be showing Unicron destroying Cybertron, or pheraps a new iteration of it.
In an act of disdain against the transformers.

I would like him to crack it with a single punch

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saw the movie in '98 at age 4 so I wasn't remotely aware of the toy status on release.

How did this movie killing off a bunch of main characters and replacing them with new models affect sales?

>Orson Welles' final acting role was a planet-sized eating machine
Has there ever been more appropriate casting?

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well at that point in history you figure everyone already owned the earlier toys, so now there's a whole new set of new toys.

that's the reason the haters were hating on this one, i didn't get the toys, i just enjoyed the kino (as previously posted).

I was assuming there was more to that post based on >The toy companies had no idea they couldn't just swap out Optimus Prime with some other red leader. Disney is about to learn the same lesson with the avengers---you can't replace Tony Stark.

but alright.

>You who are without mercy now plead for it? I would have thought you were made of sterner stuff.

The dumb fucks at Hasbro didn't even know or care at the time that any of the kids actually liked the characters, even Optimus. Even Cullen didn't really know how big the character was until he got letters from traumatized children.

i saw that post earlier, I don't know what to say about it. I have no insight into toy sales, but if Galvatron sold less than Megatron, that's just because the property was old as shit by that point and all the kids were grown up. MCU isn't related to that because they don't do merch like Transformers or Star Wars, and Captain Marvel made $300 million anyway.

>Wait! I still function!
>Wanna bet?

Right. Well the movie certainly didn't shy away from death that's for sure.

ahh, see I was just assuming there was something more to it based on the implication but I guess not. I wouldn't be surprised if there had been a dip in toy sales after the main protagonist and antagonist both got axed.

go read the reviews from 86. the irony was not lost

Highly underrated post

SPARE ME THIS MOCKERY OF JUSTICE

Some of the dialog in this movie just wasn't for kids
>Don't worry they'll reciprocate
>bargaining position highly dubious
>uncharismatic bore

The inoocent/guilty thing was confusing too

Waste of quads. Those sentences are easily understandable by normal children aged 6+

no they aren't.

They really are, to a european at least. Are you a 56% mutt?

Fucking Sharkticons man

Last time I checked you guys were on the brink of collapse due to importing too many niggers and muslims. Have fun with that. I'm not american.

>can't you see, the quads of confusion
I dug that the highly intelligent beings had unlimited vocabulary. great short-hand if you're a kid.

the guilty/innocent thing was weird, but i just read it was, "evil and therefore insane."

>you guys
european countries are 100% fine, it's the US on the brink of collapse, but that's a conversation for a different board.

>I-I-I-Im not muhkan!1!

Shart in mart

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kino
>burying Weird Al at the end like they were embarrassed
That's the power of Stan Bush

Hunger is still my favourite track.

Still makes me chuckle youtube.com/watch?v=M_O5TlVAOHk

It's almost 100% quotable.

HEY NOBODY CALLS SOUNDWAVE CRASSAMATIC

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Hearing poor Kranix screaming while he's getting torn apart by sharks was pretty chilling as a kid. Hell, it still is.

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Funny, I remember watching this in the 90s and as soon as the movie ended a voice over would say "and Optimus Prime will return"

they added a bunch of stuff after the fact. when the movie was in theaters (and on first home video release), it was PG, a character says "oh shit, what are we gonna do" in the first five minutes, there's a "hell" later. Both were cut later on, and obviously the Prime addition, since they caved to fanservice and brought back Optimus.

trufax. underrated screenwriter imho.