First season is okay often boring with a good season finale

>Why is it considered one of the greatest cartoons ever?
It’s a consensus pick. Avatar has very broad appeal. Other cartoons may be better but they’re also more polarizing.

Katara wasn't likable.

this is probably what most "cartoon critics" would say if this show aired last decade. Still a damn good cartoon, god bless all those who contributed to this wonderful show.

I liked her

The only one that I thought was "alright" was the 3rd season, which really fucked up with the hamfisted "durr I can't kill the Fire Lord even though I've undoubtedly killed dozens before!". It's considered great by Western cartoon standards, and it's still pretty good regardless, despite what wapanese won't admit.

She wasn't always likable but she's one of the most complicated characters in the show and I enjoy her a lot because of that.

The worst part is that it's absolutely unnecessary. Again, Aang has no doubt killed countless, one more, who is shown to be nuts, won't hurt.
First season was absolutely decent and fun. "Not great", says the fag who doesn't know what "deus ex machina" means. Pro tip: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina
Classic example of "truth being stranger in fiction". Sometimes miracles happen in real life (I pity those who know so little history, and who are not truly "living"), but for a fictional story, it's going to feel cheap and lazy, because after all, it's only fiction.

>implying it's an objective fact
What did you not like about her?

Muh like anime so I’m going to say it’s goat to own the wsetaboos

It's the other way around. Most weeaboo who have seen it or claim to have seen it shove it off, likely because they tend to be hipster faggots who can't accept it because it's not made by scrawny-dicked nips, even if it was mostly animated by coreans like most jap animation nowadays.

First season had character development and was fun, second season was great from start to finish, and while the pacing kinda went awry during season three most of it was still kino. Spirit bending was an asspull but it's as close as all in all it's the closest you'll get to perfection in western animation

I liked all of it, and honestly I found the fact that he happened to hit his wound with just the right rock to get the avatar state back more of an asspull, but acceptable. they really couldn't have done much else with a children's show, having aang just straight up execute the firelord would have been too much. Unless he somehow died on accident with trying (and failing) to save him last minute but that would have felt unfulfilling. At worst they didn't foreshadow spiritbending earlier, and it wasn't horrible.

if they couldn't have him kill him, why even bring up the dilemma

Then what's your example of a great cartoon, O based patrician?

What's wrong with that? It's a common story device.

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Post cartoons you consider to be good and better written than Avatar.

>Book 1 is good sometimes boring with a good finale
>Book 2 is great all around
>Book 3 is sometimes great and sometimes good

I think ATLA is flawed. It's just that western animation is so fucking bad that nothing can touch it, and it's still a fantastic show. The only animation that comes close is Japanese.

There are no well written anime.
Every single one boils down to power leveling.

>Every single one boils down to power leveling.
My dude the vast majority of anime is shit but there's plenty of great ones that have nothing to do with power leveling.

not true, all anime is power levels
pic related are two enemies locked in combat, each one trying to dominate the other by flexing their respective power levels.

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Brutal but fair.
Especially the part about introducing characters who are blade-oriented, like Mai and Sokka, in a show that is going to stay on the G side of PG violence. Give Sokka a meteor sword so he can chop on a blimp for a few moments? Sure, that's worth a whole fucking episode!
The obvious attempts by the writers to "play" with the fans in the later episodes with all the "who will end up being who's special girl" was awful and hurt the story.
It's supposed to be a story about plucky KIDS trying to avert a megawar.

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wow the jannies are faggots

>Give Sokka a meteor sword so he can chop on a blimp for a few moments? Sure, that's worth a whole fucking episode!
the point of the episode was that sokka doesn't need to be some master when he has wit and ingenuity to guide him and his friends through battle.

tension. he was a looming threat over the world, and the people thought the best answer was to kill him, probably because the show didn't show us you can just kill his bending (making him powerless) via spiritbending.

I liked it any time the spirits got involved in the human worlds they clearly had more knowledge and experience, I see no issue.

So your argument is >"he didn't say first season of Avatar was better than okay I'll show him REEE!"
I simply explained what seemed normal to me and didn't realize the lion turtle was an issue for OP since he never stated his issue so i asked what was dues ex after explaining my view and oh boy here you come thinking you'll show me for not knowing whats perceived as a lazy plot device, better break out my oh so smart copy and paste skills! Then you continue to blabber on about literally nothing with the classic like to hear your own voice complex trying your best to sound smart, how pathetic of a conceited loser can you really be, grow up.

Here, you might need this, I'll even use your favorite website for you. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/conceited

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>The worst part is that it's absolutely unnecessary. Again, Aang has no doubt killed countless, one more, who is shown to be nuts, won't hurt.
They should have just let Aang defeat him, but let him live. It risks him returning and revolting if he escapes, but that could be a thread they leave behind for Korra or the comics.

Little wonder that, since it was meant to be Nickelodeon's answer to Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings. Nick wanted to capitalise on the fantasy craze of the early 2000s.

>Worldbuilding is 10/10
>only 4 races in the whole world
>the scale is all off; why is Ba Sing Se so gigantic on the map of the world?
>features random shit like the two earth "tribes" in the Great Divide episode that's never properly explained.
>the first explanation for the spirit world was confusing; Aang wasn't even in the spirit world, his spirit was stuck in the physical realm; how did Roku's dragon become a spirit if reincarnation is a thing and only special individuals like Iroh can become spirits?
>All kids act like modern kids even though it's supposed to be a medieval setting.
>the koi fish got rid of their immortality so they could swim around in a tiny, tiny pond.

>the scale is all off; why is Ba Sing Se so gigantic on the map of the world?
are you serious

What about Tangled?

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While anime can reach S-tier sometimes, there are a few western shows like Avatar that reach the A-tier, like Trollhunters or the first two seasons of Wakfu.

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Katara was in this weird void of likable, but also preachy, self righteous and annoying. She was good in 1 and 3 but in season 2 I hated her.

Justice League
BTAS
Batman Beyond
Superman The Animated Series
The Simpsons (Early)
Spectacular Spider-man
Godzilla The Series
Futurama (Original Run)
South Park (Up to Season 15)
Sym Bionic Titan

>only 4 races in the whole world
How many races do you think we have on Earth?
Albino white Norwegians and swarthy Spaniards are the same race.
Sure there are lots of minor regional divisions, but the basic structure has some pretty large groups dependent on where their ancestors lived.
Given that the Avatar planet is smaller than Earth and would have had a different migration prehistory, I find 4 races to be completely plausible.

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>i liked Deus Ex Machina

k. But most people don't. They want good stories

If the ancient Greeks did it, it's fine in my books. Better than pulling some "subversive" twists and not letting the story develop organically (not that deus ex machina is organic but it's a plot device rooted in tradition at least). Try too hard to break cliches for the sake of breaking cliches and you get Korra. Do i think spiritbending was a good idea? Not really, but it doesn't retroactively ruin the series either, and the finale's pretty great otherwise

>How many races do you think we have on Earth?
Sorry, should've said 4 nations. When we have 195 countries in the real world. Quite a difference.

>Given that the Avatar planet is smaller than Earth
No, it's not. Gravity is identical to real-world Earth. Unless you're implying Avatar characters are giants who live on a planet the size of our moon.

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>implying the last 2500 years didn't make humanity re-thing a couple of storytelling concepts.

You've got a problem with the geography of Attack on Titan makes more sense.

Greater density of metal in the crust, mantle, and core, would have a stronger gravitational pull and magnetic field to Earth.
There's no one size fits all for habitable worlds.

I totally lost interest when I heard the conceit behind the world there.
It was Earth all along.
Planet of the Apes did it better.
Just make the impossible biology planet, another world.

I just finished rewatching Book One the other day and it does a really great job building up the world and lore, though the episodes later on in the season are hit or miss. Avatar is really more than the sum of its parts, the whole thing just came together really well.

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Millenials first lore driven cartoon

It's fine to me because the water bender kaiju makes up for two seasons afterwards. Toph and Iroh are okay too.

>we've reaches the point where babies raised with Fanboy & ChumChum remember that piece of shit fondly
I'm too old for this website.

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Based Chadboy fans hidden all around Yea Forums

Are you saying everyone in your life is likeable?

Looking like the Ambiguously Gay Duo.

I love legitimate theater.

Nostalgia

It is one of the only mainstream kids shows to have a story-driven narrative that isn't capeshit.
I never liked it myself since it tried so hard to be anime but couldn't actually do anything cool because of America's 'think of the children' attitude. It always read as boring and unimaginative as fuck to me.

True. A lot of the more story driven cartoons tend to be superhero stuff, and they're good don't get me wrong but again, oversaturation of the genre. For me ATLA and Clone Wars are the best non-capeshit story driven cartoons with top animation and real care put into them. There are some others but those are my top two that really were lightning in a bottle and came along at the right time with the right creators.

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