Why are there people pretending Shazam is in any way a success? This is abysmal performance for a cape movie

Why are there people pretending Shazam is in any way a success? This is abysmal performance for a cape movie.
300 million WOLRDWIDE. Not domestic, worldwide gross.

This is the worst performing movie compared to fox's x-men, mcu and any other dceu film.

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It's shit. Incels here pretend it's a success because the identified it as Captain Marvel's nemesis, so they wanted it to succeed. As usual, they are delusional as fucks and in the face of reality, they will make stuff up.

>CM is not a success because Disney bought seats, it's mostly empty theaters
(as if this was remotely possible)

>Shazaam is a success but Jews are tweaking the numbers to pretend it's not doing great

Once you realise the degree of mental illness and autism of the majority of users here, a whole lot makes a whole lot more sense.

because it cost peanuts to make

This its budget was 80-100 million. Most superhero movies are not that cheap.

Literally almost identical budget and BO numbers as the first X Men movie you fucking mongrel

It was cheap.
Anyway I wish all capeshit made 300m at best.

It budget was 80 million USD while the advertising was something like 3.49 USD and a grilled cheese sandwich. It's did great for what they have spend.

because its budget was a scify tier movie. Even the CGI is pretty bad.

it's called Damage Control

Shazam didn't have to fake box office numbers to get there.

Percentage profit

The buying seats thing is completely viable. Disney is buying Fox with shares, Marvel being even a mediocre success would cost them hundreds of millions if it fluactuated share value.

whoooooo carrrressss

We feel sorry for DC fans. Their franchise just isn’t good and we try to make them feel good about themselves until they give up and finally have sex.

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budget was 40 million

>out for weeks
>still hasn’t made as much as cAptain marvel made in 3 days

and that sounds reasonable to shills

It cost $100 million to make. It's more expensive than both Deadpool movies

The budget is $100 million post production

and deadpool would be a success if it made 250 million

$100 million for production
$100 million for theaters
$200 million for advertising (Spend a dollar to make a dollar)

$400 million to break even

Nope. Calculate for yourself

Say Shazam optimistically makes $360M final. $150M domestic, $40M China and $170M elsewhere

The studio revenue is 50% of $150M + 25% of $40 + 40% of $170M = $153M

The production budget is $100 and assuming that the marketing budget is a very conservative $75M then Shazam ends up with a LOSS of $23M before home media.

So, Shazam will live or die by how successful it is on homemedia.

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Shazam is a flop whichever way you try to spin it

I feel bad for normies and casuals who think any cape shit is anything better than 5/10 flicks

Must be why there is going to be a sequel and a black Adam spin off

>but captain marvel cost triple!!
>actually only like 1.75 times more

Because it has a 90 million budget so it's objectively a success.

it had a 150 millions marketing budget

You're gonna get a sequel whether you liked it or nott

They're clearly gambling in the hopes that Rock and the DCEU connections will give it a boost. It was a stupid decision to make before the boxoffice results actually came out. Captain Marvel's budget is $152M
The post production budget is $100M. Also, it's not a success. It's infact a flop before the home media release. See

Meanwhile people reporting box office estimate it's marketing at 120-140m, so it's break even point is at 500m after theaters take (brainlets from pol think that 40m can be a budget for widerelease movie in 2019 when LAIKA spend 30m just on tv commercials in NA for Missing Link).

It will break even with streaming, tv deal and home video sales.

inb4 but sequel is confirmed like Solo 2, Solo 3, Kenobi, Maul, Suicide Squad 2 (instead of Gunn reboot), Man of Steel 2, Deadshot, Deathstroke, Justice League Dark, Flash, Cyborg. Look at those glorious confirmed sequels, can't wait

>if I make shit up then it flopped
Cringe

They already approved Black Adam and Shazam 2. You guys can armchair analyze it all you want, WB is pleased with it. Like Fox was with Spiderverse that had a similar performance.

And that'll flop too. Shazam did especially bad in growth markets.

See

oh wow, will they be released before or after Justice League Black and Deadshot movies?

That is a high budget not even factoring in the promotional campaign. Probably haven’t even broke even yet.

>$200 million for advertising (Spend a dollar to make a dollar)
The marketing was 40 million according to deadline.

Doesn't change the fact Shazam flopped

It's not making up shit. I'm going by the actual box office results and what studio gets regionally. These are public information

I felt kind of embarrassed watching it since it's clearly a kid's movie.

Guy estimates marketing too low. As I said, goddamn LAIKA spend 30 millions on just TV ads for north america. It losses more. But Homecoming made total of 480 millions just from home video, streaming and tv rights, so Shazam can hope for 40-50% of that and make a bit of money.

>ant man and the wasp
>budget 196 million
>box office 622 million
>ratio 3.17

>shazam
>budget 100 million
>box office right now 322 million
>ration 3.22

Literally performing better than a movie you guys claimed it didn't flop.

>The marketing was 40 million according to deadline.
Source?

It's unlikely considering that even horror movies sometimes have 100 million marketing budgets

at least it didn't sell on the back of endgame, Brie.

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You're making the marketing budget up on the fly though, the rule of thumb has always been making 3 times the budget back and Shazam already did it. Keep coping though

no, they estimated 120 millions. 40 millions is not enough to cover TV commercials for Shazam

Deadshot never had his own movie, Dark has been in production hell forever as anything Del Toro pitches, Squad actually got a sequel (there's returning characters) and a spin off but you are trying to move goalposts so we have to ignore it. The only ones cancelled were attached to Snyderverse. The other projects are moving along. But it it didn't make 1 billion with the help of Daddy Mouse so it's a flop.

Now add marketing budget for both movies in

Also, the official budget of Antman and the Wasp is $162 million

We don't think about you.

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The source was forbes actually.

>with a budget of $90+ million and no more than roughly $40 million in marketing
So the total cost was 130-140 million.

forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/04/07/shazam-opens-to-thunderous-159-million-with-open-road-ahead/#47bc5c5427f6

>Now add marketing budget for both movies in
Almost nothing for Shazam and very little for the other one unless you can provide a source saying otherwise. Even MCU shill supreme Scott Mendelson says it has broken even

Rule of thumb is a general thing. In this case, we already know what revenue the movie made in region and what percentage of it actually goes to WB. Yes, marketing budget is speculation. In fact it's conservative speculation considering that even horror movies like IT has 100 million marketing budget. If you don't believe me then you tell me what you think the marketing budget for Shazam is

Sorry buddy but you should read the thread before you post, you got BTFO here

Shazam also made most of it's money in the US and Europe where the studios get a higher cut. The marketing was 40 million, which isn't much.

Scott Mendelson is well known DC shill. The fuck are you talking about faggot

That's a pure speculation by Mark Hughes. Rule of thumb for budgets. Use Deadline as the source

The rule of thumb is that the break even point is twice its budget. At 80 million, it would've broken even at 16. 100, 200, etc. It's very clearly profitable.

That's Mark Hughes speculating out his ass. Marketing budget does not come until the end of the year. All super hero movies have marketing budgets in excess of 100 million. Even big horror movies have 100 million marketing budgets.

Seems like you suffer from extreme confirmation bias.

>my fantasies and delusions are more reliable than the insiders in the industry trust me
>the guy who still does damage control about the last jedi and solo is a DC shill not a disney one
How is this mentall illness called?

>rule of thumb for budgets that I just made up is cool but the widely accepted one of box office to budget ratio is not
As I said this is a severe case of mental illness, you should look for help my dude

There is no rule of thumb. Studio gets 50% from North America, 25% from China and 40% from rest of the world
Not really. Mark Hughes is not financial analyst. Dude just writes about comic book movies. If you want source go to Deadline

Scott Mendelson is currently doing damage control on Shazam. He also predicted that Captain Marvel won't outperform Wonder Woman last week

Well yes, there are multiple factors, but in general, if a movie made back twice its budget, you can probably feel safe its in the black. I'm not quite sure what you're arguing other than a blind "we don't know."

The marketing budget was about 40 million and even Scott Mendelson says it broke even. Unless you can provide a source other than your pained anus you should give up, it's over

They shouldn’t have released it close to Avengers Endgame. They also shouldn’t have released a early screening since it confused people about the release date and spoiled the movie.

Why even release a Christmas movie in the spring?

It's a good thing that we here on the internet are all over this story, no way the people at Fox or anyone involved who actually has money at stake, millions of dollars, would be able to look into this and expose Disney to get themselves a better deal.

>Why even release a Christmas movie in the spring?

Because Disney has tried to monopolize the entire Christmas season by sticking a Star Wars movie in the slot every year. They might've been able to pull of December '18, but I don't know if it was done then.

Shazam is the lowest grossing capeshit since Fan4stic. More like Flopzam

Rule of thumb has always been production x 2 to break even.

It is dirt cheap for a modern action movie, which often go for 200 million.
Shazam also is relatively unknown character, who didn't get any pull from the fact it is tied t DC.

fuck it's gonna make less than ant-man

Even worse, it's gonna make less than Solo. The movie's flopping hard

Financial success is based on comparing the budget/expenses vs returns. Shazam didn't have a huge $250 million budget. It doesn't need a billion dollar return. Critically its also been very well received

Fpbp.
When using this board, keep in mind that a disproportionately high number of posts and threads is made by a minority of legitimately deranged, obsessed anons.

coping dkek

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>DCuck is also brainwashed clownposter
What a surprise

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Marvelfag here and yes the numbers are low but considering how much it cost to make then the movie is doing fine. It's not a super smash hit like what deadpool did with a similar budget but it's enough.

it's at $1.1 billion now

it's about a day away from beating Aquaman. FACT!!!

>"B-but it had a l-lower b-budget"
COPE harder, DCshits
These are the facts:
>cost 50m less than Captain Marvel
>made 700m less than Captain Marvel
Spin it however you like DCucks. You got BTFO like usual.

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Flops high

Captain Marvel is a tie in for Endgame. That's a massive factor in viewership.

t. neutral party

Mos2, green lantern 2, cyborg, flash. All were confirmed too Dcuck

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Solo had 300 million budget. Shazam has 90 million

>They might've been able to pull of December '18, but I don't know if it was done then.
It wasn't.

rent free, honkie

>Yea Forums accounting
lol

>cost 50m less than Captain Marvel
>made 700m less than Captain Marvel
so it in fact cost 750 million (with the bought tickets)

It will end at around 390 million, the production budget was 90 million and the marketing budget was 40 million

>This whole post
God I hope nobody believes this shit

>Meanwhile people reporting box office estimate it's marketing at 120-140m
Absolute bullshit. Infinity Wars marketing was 150mil

>Now add marketing budget for both movies in
Shazam: 40 million
Ant-Man and the Wasp: 100 million

>With a production budget of about $160 million, plus modest marketing costs in the range of $100 million, Ant-Man and the Wasp basically covered its expenses when it crossed $520 million worldwide

forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/09/07/ant-man-and-the-wasp-surpassing-original-film-by-100-million/#5fabee80336e

>While $57 million domestic and $159 million worldwide may not sound as heady as some other record-setting superhero cinematic debuts, this is a much more modest production -- with a budget of $90+ million and no more than roughly $40 million in marketing -- sporting a more moderate, contained story. Shazam is also a less well-known character to mainstream audiences, with a softer marketing footprint.


But make no mistake, this is a big win for Warner Bros. and DC Films. With relatively restrained production and marketing costs, the film will break even at somewhere around $250+/- million, and now there's no question it will fly far higher than that when it ends its box office run.

forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/04/07/shazam-opens-to-thunderous-159-million-with-open-road-ahead/

It tried to hard to be Sam Raimi's Spiderman 2.

Also the jew protagonist is not funny at all and his CGI'd body doesn't help.

>Meanwhile people reporting box office estimate it's marketing at 120-140m
Literally no one is saying that

It's doing well for its budget and its calculated release time. Nobody expected it to survive Endgame.

Solo flopped because they pretty much filmed it twice and it was expensive enough already. It's hardly a fair comparison.

Movie is great and it's getting a sequel. This hurts the resident Disney shill.

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It's already beaten Spider-Verse in the foreign market

Cartoons don't count, normies don't watch cartoons that aren't Pixar.

>movie can't even reach 400 million
>still makes Marvelfag mad

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>It's did great for what they have spend
Reminder that Memepool grossed >$780m off a $58m budget

>an outlier proves everyone else should be outliers

>black Adam spin off
>sequel confirmed
Yeah sounds like a hit to me. Let's see when captain marvel gets a sequel

>Studio gets 50% from North America, 25% from China and 40% from rest of the world
Fuck I love Yea Forums math. You guys know that Marvel has a bunch of flops with this shit right? Look I'll do it with Iron Man 2
Production 200mil + Marketing of 100mil = 300
Dom 312 / 2 = 156. Foreign 311 40% 124 (No point factoring China because it only did 7mil there)
156+124=280mil
Nowhere in the world did Iron Man flop. But on Yea Forums it did

There's a movie for a music lookup app? Hollywood has really ran out of ideas.

>flopped
batman begins cost $150m and made $374m, that went on to produce the first billion dollar comic movie. like begins, all shazam had to do was prove that it's viable franchise. the sequel, which they've already started writing, will get a bigger budget, more marketing and a better release date than stuck in the middle of two mcu movies

Incel B8

>patrickstarbooing.gif

I know this is a bait post but as an MCU shill Shazam is literally the superior film in every way.

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A third of the audience was kids under 12, which means it will sell a lot of DVDs

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It's a joke but you know zoomers only now Shazam the app and not the weird comic book

What's this site?

I aint even seen Captain Marvel but Shazam was just a pleasant, well-made superhero movie about family and responsibility. It's probably the most wholesome film ever made with a literal lust demon in it

I know, but that's still dad joke-tier even if it's ironic.

>not factoring in reshoots in buying their own tickets
Embarrassing

>Chinese "people" hated it because they can't understand adopting kids instead of just selling their organs

box office mojo

More schizophrenia brought to you by /pol.

thx

>movie struggles to make a 1/3 of the real Cap Marvel
i i i it's a success guize

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Because the fucking movie has cost 80 million and had 0 marketing, dumbass

They have made this movie to their streaming service

also reminder that DC sells more DVDs than the MCU
Man of Steel and Wonder Woman have sold a lot more than Civil War, Black Panther and Infinity War
The only big sellers were Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers
Iron Man movies are not even in the Top 50, and even The First Avenger is

>2005
you know that's about $500 million if it were out today, right?

Yeah but it's budget would also inflate in comparison

We should name this thread:
>person with half the facts argues with someone with no facts

The problem with Yea Forums playing entourage is that we never include tax breaks or money made from product placement or merchandising. You guys thinking the Box office is the only place a film makes money is embarrassing.

Not a chance.

374 million box office: 487 million today
150 million budget: 195 million today

The box office is 2.5x the budget. Shazam is already at 3.2x.

Back then a lot of people argued whether Batman Begins was a flop or not. But it sold a shit ton of DVDs.

Marvel is still inflating the numbers to make it beat Wonder Woman domestic and Aquaman worldwide and it's fucking obvious

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Because it had a high Rotten Tomatoes Score by both critics and audiences. Aquaman made a billion but was shat on by critics and the media.
Which is a step in the right direction. The idea is to create more Quality movies that critics and audiences like and to draw in more people in sequels and future movies.

TLDR Shazam got good reviews/reception that can help them in the long run.

The film literally had zero marketing besides the YouTube cameos.

TTG had a Shazam-themed episode on April 1st.

I thought it was alright. I don't really care for the box offices for movies because I have better things to look at. But why do some people live their lives through this?

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I heard it was 98

People are just watching once againCaptain Marvel before Endgame. Black Panther got the same boost before Infinity War.

it is not a flop. But it is not a huge sucess. there are intemediary zones. Americans only see things in extremes

Dumb conspiracy aside, it's only because of Endgame it's still making this much money. It's only 3 days left and people are excited. It happened with black panther too, infinity war gave it a boost as well.

Source me up my good man

Ajin

What's the budget though? The CGI looked like it was made by one guy in the basement, so it can't be that expensive. 300m worldwide is still pretty pathetic and even below Solo, which was a big enough flop to slow down SW spam.

Didn't incels pick Anita as their anti-Captain Marvel? (Which too failed) Shazam shits on muh traditional family values theme, so would be a weird one too.

They are both extremely mediocre and forgetable. I'd say CM edges it due the Fury-whatever her name was dynamic. Shazam probably had a better twist but the characters were either painfully underdeveloped or a total cunt like the main guy.

Are we really comparing a relatively unknown Superhero to Han Solo? What really made Solo a bomb was that it had massive reshoots on the scale of Justice League, if not bigger. Shazam's budget was probably closer toa fourth of what Solo's was in the end

Thanks

Solo had 300 million budget, this has 90 million

Unlike Captain Marvel, BP had basically no relevance for Endgame, one could've skipped it and nothing would feel amiss. I know it's Yea Forums and all but come on. It was easy top 3 MCU and one of the few that deserved the commercial success.

Shazam was better than Aquaman. Kind of surprised Aquaman did better.

>Solo had 300 million budget
Yet it apparently only lost Disney 50mil

>relatively low budget movie about a literal who superhero to 99% of the general population
>it doesn't make as much as movies about popular superheroes
is this really surprising to people?

Aquaman was a spectacle released during the Christmas holiday season. While Shazam is released in the worst possible date right behind the biggest superhero movie ever. Disney released the tickets for Endgame 3 days before Shazam opened and it crashed every ticket site. People didn't care about any movie not named Endgame. Plus this has little appeal overseas.

>Are we really comparing a relatively unknown Superhero to Han Solo?
Does it really matter in times of capeshit hype? Sure Solo obviously had a better chance and obviously was a larger flop due the insane budget but both did ... not well.

Besides if we consider budget, we can always consider the impact a movie had on branding and Solo very likely helped Disney bottomline more despite flopping and costing more.

>Are we really comparing a relatively unknown Superhero to Han Solo?
This

We should compare him to other unknown heroes like Ant Man, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, and the Guardians of the Galaxy

>Captain Marvel
>popular
I bet the majority heard of her/him the first time. Besides Guardians and the first Antman shows that initial popularity isn't too big of a factor. Most people never gave a fuck about the comics in the first place.

Aquaman had a charismatic lead and muh underwater effects. It performed way better than anyone expected but it's hardly surprising it did much better.

Unlike Solo, Shazam is getting a sequel.

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Black Panther only got a bump on the same weekend Infinity War was released, and it still didn't make MORE than the previous weekend, and it was already doing nickels so it barely made a difference

Remember how all those movies had to compete with the pre sales of one of the biggest movies of all time?

All the unknown Marvel characters had at least twice as much marketing and the entire MCU machine to prop them up

>but it's hardly surprising it did much better.
Dude, It's fucking Aquaman. Did this movie really kill Aquaman's reputation as a loser?

(and they also cost more)
meanwhile the first MCU movies were barely doing any better than Shazam, specially considering their budgets, and they were using relatively more known characters even at the time (Hulk, Thor, Captain America)

The sequels did benefit from MCU effect. The others at best got the benefit of doubt due people liking previous shit. No clue about their marketing budgets though, wouldn't be surprised if you're right.

I mean, they managed to make the original costume look cool; probably the only thing I recall from it aside from the CGI fest in the last third being more crazy than usual.

Captain Marvel is still not popular even with 1 billion. It only goes to show that 80% of Marvel characters are nothing without the "cinematic universe" bringing them up, and they'll fade into obscurity again as soon as it the cinematic universe starts dying out, or even with just other characters replacing them.

Guardians of the Galaxy had a 80 million budget marketing, which is twice of what Shazam got. It also had big spectacle, and it thrived with better legs than Shazam could possibly have due to release date slot. And the MCU was already in full force after Avengers.

You said the same thing about Spider-Verse which has the same budget as Shazam and they both performed very similarly. Yet they both have sequels confirmed and a spin off.

It's funny how DCucks are so quick to change their tune and pretend no one will notice

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Spider-Verse was a genuinely good movie thought and looked pretty cheap. Shazam is aight at best.

That's beside the point. The point is that Yea Forums once again proves to be illiterate when it comes to box office

and since Yea Forums loves armcouch accounting
>GotG made 773M on 170M budget + 80M marketing (reported) = 3.092x what it cost
>Shazam reportedly cost 90M + 40M = 130M, so if it makes 400M, it's on the same level of ROI as GotG

I bet that user didn't think about the Endgame tickets. But fucking hell man do you just take screenshots of any post you disagree with? You're way to into this company war shit

he's still right, Shazam makes most of its money in the 3 weeks before Endgame regardless of how much it makes

the pre-sales are a different matter because it affects it before the release

Doesn't that mean its a success.

He posts this himself and then screenshots it. The whole blu ray eating thing started as a false flag as well, I can guarantee you.

yes, and that's why OP is mad, he needs the media to tell him that it's a flop because he is an obsessed marvel fan

Iron Man 2 flopped with Yea Forums math. It's hilarious how ignorant Yea Forums is about it's own topic

No. It means DC has someone willing to do Damage Control for them

Yeah. Thing is you can't say Shazam is a flop without also making Captain America a flop. So company war fags are only playing themselves

Yea Forums once convinced themselves infinity war had 1 billion production budget and 1 billion in marketing and is therefore a flop

How the fuck do you retards not know how time works? A movie in 2019 making as much as one from 2011 is FUCKING HORRIBLE

Its a huge success from pre-MCU standards and with an unknown character for which there was no outcry for a film of.

Yea Forums convinces themselves of a lot of thing

Seriously the archive is a goldmine

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Because as it's Box office is adjusted so to is it's budget. If Shazam is a flop so is Captain America.

It costed about half what your average superhero movie costs, and it got a good reception both critically and with audiences, which guarantees an increasing Box Office for sequels. It's the opposite of something like BvS, which had a bigger box office but almost killed the franchise.

>let's adjust the box office but not the budget

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Detective Pikachu probably would have hurt Endgame legs a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why it moved up a week

the funny thing is Captain America cost 40 million more than Shazam even unadjusted

Yes, before 2008 a movie making less than $400 million would probably be seen as less of a failure. But it's not 2008 is it DCuck? It's the fucking GOLDEN AGE OF SUPERHERO MOVIES where the floor is usually $600 million

Being this happy to be a literal farm tool

>Detective Pikachu probably would have hurt Endgame legs a bit
Sure it would have

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>We feel sorry for DC fans
The fuck we do. Those dipshits acted like top fucking dog before the MCU showed them how fucking awful their shit characters are

Pikachu seems like a movie that will be strong overseas, not domestically.

Disney extorts movie theaters into showing it's Marvel and Star Wars movies for at least a month along with taking 65% of all ticket sales.

Source: archive.is/TEgng

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>He thinks DC and Marvel movies don't have the same audience

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cringe general

Marvel and DC are both shit and you're a literal faggot.

I'm not saying those movies only succeeded because of Avengers I'm just saying they got a boost from it.
>Top 3 MCU
Yeah nah don't tell me shit, I'm black and African and the movie was mediocre as fuck.

It's a better flick, but monetarily speaking it's a flop

>he thinks Captain Marvel has relevance to Endgame
did you even watch it? (would not surprise me if you didn't because few people actually did)
the lines about her in Endgame already explain everything there is in the solo movie: she went away to "help other planets", Nick Fury uses the pager to call her when there's something big

Watching Black Panther was actually more relevant to Infinity War due to the things that take place in Wakanda, and the Ant-Man movies are way more relevant to Endgame.

>he still haven't figured out BP was made to mainly appeal to African-Americans.

>WHY IS THE MEDIA NOT SAYING THE MOVIE MADE BY MY ENEMIES IS A FLOP????

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Imagine having your "enemy" be a rival superhero company. Just imagine how empty your life has to be for that to happen

unfortunately that's very much a real thing. I just wonder why isn't everyone a Cameron fan if you actually feel an accomplishment from that nonsense. You just pull the Avatar card and never lose.

a lot of people here do that, in fact

>I'm just saying they got a boost from it.
Captain Marvel for sure since it introduces a character that will be crucial for Endgame, the strongest avenger and all that jazz. Black Panther not so much because he's basically a side character less important than Antman.

>Yeah nah don't tell me shit, I'm black and African and the movie was mediocre as fuck.
Since when is being a black African relevant for movies? I guess the representation must've been nice but it'd stand out with purely white cast on direction alone, which tends to be the weakest link for MCU. Even my friends who couldn't give any fucks about capeshit actually enjoyed it.

Wouldn't say it's anywhere near REALLY good movies like Dark Knight but in the sea of MCU where every movie feels the same Black Panther easy stands out.

>he thinks Captain Marvel has relevance to Endgame
It has due introducing a character that was obviously going to play a big role there. The movie itself obviously didn't have much connection to it due the timeline alone.

>did you even watch it?
Who am I to say no to free TS rips?

>due to the things that take place in Wakanda
Which was a random CGI fest in Endgame that could've played literally anywhere without having an impact on the story if you replaced Shuri with any other scientist. They could've pulled Ironman 3 and add some Chinese guys doing the part and nothing would've changed. TChalla himself had about as much screentime as fucking Bucky.

Ant-man movies were definitely more relevant and they sure as fuck didn't get the boost.

Peak capitalism. It was only a question of time when religion cockfights got replaced by brand shit. And it's not like it's unique to capeshit movies. Take the whole lagdroid vs applel crap.

Well it has already broken even for sure. If the budget is 100 million then the marketing is usually two times that. So if it has reached 300 million then it has broken even and will probably get to 500 million on home sales. I mean it's not anything amazing but it's not a box office bomb by any means. Claiming it is is just retarded.

I honestly don't get how or why cape movies became such a big thing or why people give a shit about the separate universes. Were they really such a big thing for the current generations growing up? I fucking hated superheroes when I was a kid. And I basically didn't know anyone who read comics. It was the dorkiest shit imaginable, only X-Men was remotely ok.

Alita reaches 400mil
>ehhh I dunno, hopefully it doesnt get a sequel, we really cant have that in todays cinema, its not OK

Shitzam reaches 300 mil
>YAAAAAAA YAAAAHOO WHOOOOOOOYEEE BOOOYAHHHH HAH HAH WEEEEEWO FLYYYY HIGH!!!! YAYY YAYYY YAYAYYAYY SNORT SNORT REEEEBADEBBLEEDOOOOOOO

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Until endgame knocks Avatar off, I don't even want to be here when it does

Didn't Alita cost about 200mil?

>Until endgame knocks Avatar off,
We'll see. Infinity War was still a long way off Avatar

A bit less with the writeoffs they got, but I felt the film was attacked by critics unfairly

Not sure why but people are projecting endgame to be much more successful. But everyone knows how its gonna end, it doesn't have the same mystery as infinity war did

>All these replies to obvious cheap paid poster bait.

*Blocks your path*

>Again, we’re dealing with a $90 million-budgeted superhero flick opening right between Captain Marvel and Avengers: Endgame. This was never going to do Justice League or Man of Steel numbers, let alone Aquaman or Wonder Woman grosses. What it proved for Warner Bros. was that DC Films could make three winning solo superhero movies in a row and that they could make a qualitative winner from a comparatively cult-level character.


>And with a probable domestic finish just over/under Mad Max: Fury Road's $153 million finish, and a worldwide finish probably over/under $385 million worldwide (it earned $61 million global over the weekend), it’s a relative success. Whether or not it gets stomped by Avengers: Endgame in two weeks, it’ll have made most of its money already. With $259 million worldwide as of today, it’s safely in “break even” territory and will absolutely be profitable.

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Fpbp

>Until endgame knocks Avatar off
Not gonna happen unless they leave it in cinemas for a year like Avatar did

>agreeing with your own post
Disgusting.

>The source was forbes actually.
Those contributor posts aren't actually "forbes." Is just people blogging using Forbes as a platform.

Alita needed 500 million to break even specially with it doing nothing in the US and only making bank in China
Shazam needed ~250 million