>My daddy beat your daddy!

link a highlights video

Seemed like both were autistic but JP is less retarded so I give him the win.

thanks bros felt hella good couldnt have done it without you all

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the audio was shit. didn't finnish watching it

He makes loads of good observational points but has no solutions to any of them and thus is completely useless.

they agreed on 95% of things discussed. the other 5% of the debate was zizek asking peterson why he was conflating post-modernism with neo marxism

>he said he wasn't entirely for communism
No shit, because under actual communism the value of his labor would be zero.

id rather not spend my time watching a fucking debate lmao i'm not a boring cunt with no life who still cares about politics, grew out of that ages ago.

>in zizek's opening statement he said he wasn't entirely for communism and that he wasn't going to argue in favor of it in opposition to capitalism
Doesn't that mean Peterson wins by default? Just say "well in that case happiness is easier to obtain in a capitalist society than in a communist society." Instant win?

>in favour of immigration and globalism
nigga have you heard a one sentence this man ever said? the very reson he was blacklisted from media is because he opposes europe accepting refugees. and he hates globalists with passion.

Peterson got BTFO and was way out of his depth. It was very amusing.

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>shitposts on Yea Forums

*blocks both their paths*

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the impulse to brag about having a life on Yea Forums has never made sense to me. nobody even asked you and you're anonymous

>*sniff* I will NEVER have sex *pinches nose*
whore btfo, zizek wins as always

>it was supposed to be about capitalism vs communism, with zizek arguing for communism
it literally wasn't. read the title of the debate again.

yes but given the interlocutor's fanbase this has nothing do with the topic at hand and everything to do with how well read they were

Peterson claims capitalists don't mistreat their workers, that any boss that care about profit does not exploit their employees because it could mean the end of their business.
>You don't rise to a position that is reliable in a human scoety primarily by exploiting other people
Even the average /pol/tard will agree that this is not true when faced with someone like Jeff Bezos.

Peterson claims Marx has no concept of nature in his works. The very first chapter of the Capital is Marx explaining that labor is a necessary connection between humanity and nature and that life does not exist without it.

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Yes, that is critical theory and it is a post modern way of thinking. People who say peterson doesn't know what post modern marxism means probably don't even know what it means themselves. Anyone who says marxism should include the frankfurt school just for clarity because marxism today is not exactly the same as the marxism of marx.

He literally said that Europe is to blame for immigration and that he strongly opposes nationalism and racism

*Ruins your image and reputation*

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they agreed on what it means to be happy and how it's not an ends to a means and more of a byproduct. how can you have an entire debate when both of you agree on the main point

TL;DR: It's not hyperbolic to say that Jordan Peterson literally has the /pol/tard's understanding of what "Marxism" is. He thinks it's niggers fucking white women in porn and the girl from the Frozen cartoon not having a prince chad grabbing her side.

memes are fun

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Peterson literally challenged Zizek (or actually, a Zizek Twitter bot) to a debate after getting triggered over some slightly critical piece he wrote, then spent over a year doing nothing at all to prepare for it. Zizek won by default.

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El goblina

Who is this semen demon? She looks vaguely familiar

Didn't he marry some Vietnamese bride4pay?

>how can you have an entire debate when both of you agree on the main point
to share thoughts on other points. debates aren't boxing matches

the hate peterson got in this debate is all projection of people's own insecurity of not fully understanding the doctrines they purport to claim as their own ideology. none of the chapocels have a better understanding of marx than peterson, which is saying a lot because peterson knows fuckall about marx. they're just basking in the glory because of deep seeded insecurity of not knowing anything themselves.

>trying to greentext in the subject field
>using the subject field at all whatsoever
what the fuck is wrong with Yea Forums
you never see this level of newfaggotry on other boards
fuck you, never post again

>Marxism doesn't have any countries to point to that are anticapitalist.
The Soviet Union! Just ask them how happy they were.

>thinking grey wolves give a shit about zizek vs peterson
Lmaoing at the lack of validation in your life.

Nationalism is a joke, you can brainwash little nigs with education and strong "west" values instead of letting them rot in an inmigrant gettho from which will emerge terrorists and burglars.

I didn't watch it because umm... internet debates? yikes. have sex

This. The mockery is all an exercise in subconscious masochism

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I'm looking forward to all the best highlights of Peterson getting clowned by the sniffling trashman

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Does anyone else want Peterson and Zizek to become friends?

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Friendly reminder he couldn't even name one (1) "Post Modern Neo-Marxist"

>Please, I'm sorry, I beg of you *sniff*, just one will do

Peterson just got exposed as a dilettante, and a poor one at that.

1) Anyone who has taken a 100 level course on Marx could have given as good or better of a rundown and critique of the Communist Manifesto that Peterson gave.
2) No serious Marxist reads the meme pamphlet Marx wrote for uneducated workers, it's not an academic source, it's a propaganda piece.
3) Peterson, although claiming to have read and understood at least a modicum of Zizek's works, was not able to produce a single meaningful critique of his theory, even going so far as to be impressed with Zizek's take on Christianity
3a) Peterson is in many ways a scholar of religion, in particular Judeo-Christianity; he also critiques Marxism for being an athiest doctrine which rejects these principles. So if Peterson had done so much as read Zizek's wikipedia article, let alone an article on him in an encyclopedia of philosophy, let alone read one of his books on Christianity, he would have known this position and not been impressed by it. It means he didn't even watch Pervert's Guide to Ideology. Incredible lack of research.
4) Peterson did not stick to his position that Marxism was bad, instead retreating to a simple repetition of his individualism (at one point admitting that the heart of the individualism leads to the position that you must do what is best for the community anyways "good enough for you/your family isn't enough" which basically recasts JP's position as individually enlightened Marxism)
5) Peterson hasn't read Critique of the Gotha program which is shorter than the Manifesto and much more important (reminder this intellectual has been arguing against the evils of Marx for decades and hasn't even read him in any meaningful sense since he was 18).

highlights video where

some e-thot who got attention from channers for IRL shitposting on He Will Not Divide Us who turned into your typical YouTube Intellectual (TM)

6) By the end, Peterson wasn't even able to formulate an argument against the form of Marxism which Zizek promotes. His only point to the debate which had any relevance was to point out Capitalism's productive force, a fact that he also admits Marx agrees with and discusses at length in the Manifesto.
7) Peterson being pressed on and subsequently not able to name a single postmodern neomarxist needs no explication.

Peterson has been exposed as someone who has no real education (or perhaps intellectual interest) in political theory. I am actually amazed there are people who watched this debate and think Peterson managed even the bare minimum of understanding of both Marxist theory and the historical realities of capitalist dynamics.

>letting them rot in an inmigrant gettho
that is their natural habitat. If you forcibly integrate black people into white neighborhoods, they shit everything up to the point of white flight and the once good area turns into a ghetto. I mean it's been happening since the 70s and it DOESN'T work. What more do you want from us? Reparations? Don't answer that you fucking parasite.

i get so annoyed at myself for how attractive i find her and her pseudobaby voice

Peterson got an inflated sense of ego after debating a couple gender studies professors.
It's like the best hooper at the local gym who thinks he's good enough to take on NBA players.

Damn, good analysis dude

I’m glad they became friends at the end

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Peterson leaves leftypol and r*ddit in seething fits of rage so I support him.

ahh, perfect. another political thread has spawned on my favorite television and film board. it's time for me (a based and redpilled politically active millenial) to REDPILL the imageboard's users on what a state western civilization is in. all these "enlightened centrists" who don't hold any extreme political views are inferior to me. it doesn't matter if over half the posts i reply to are shitposters who post leftist political views because they know it gets a rise out of me. i'm at least doing my part for the future of the white western world by REDPILLING the 4channel users about the crimes against humanity committed by jewish hollywood producers and transsexuals in discord servers. god it makes me so angry to think that there are people alive today who aren't aware of crime statistics and intelligence distributions across different continents. to think they don't even care that the western world is falling apart. it makes me fume.

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based logical user

Also, friendly reminder: twitter.com/HOSTAGEKlLLER/status/1119367322379202562

>leftypol says Jordan lost
>/pol/ says Zizek lost
>they would have said this anyway

>By the end, Peterson wasn't even able to formulate an argument against the form of Marxism which Zizek promotes
Peterson addressed this by coining the term "zizekian marxism" during the debate. Obviously if you're preparing for a debate against marxism and the other guy pulls a fast one by not actually being a marxist it's going to look like you were unprepared. Peterson could have read Zizek's ideology but the debate was CAPITALISM VS MARXISM not PETERSON VS ZIZEK so it's basically the organizers fault for not even knowing what zizek stands for.

based

Even his critique of regular ass century-old Marxism was extremely flawed, as I already explained in: Despite the years he spent crying about Marxism, the dude hasn't even read the first chapter of Das Kapital.

Thats actually true. Also Zizek pulled another fast one and didn't even argue about what provides greater happiness, but denounced happiness as a value alltogether

this debate summarized
>capitalism is more efficient than communism
>sure, but I like starving better

Preparing for it would have meant reading much more than the fucking Communist Manifesto, a text meant to target uneducated workers with no previous knowledge, and basing his entire argumentation on it. Now, I'm just a simple worker, the kind the Manifesto is meant to address, but I've at least read Das Kapital afterwards. Peterson is an academic. I may not be an expert but studying texts is patlet of his work, isn't it? Yet he went to the debate, thinking he can base his entire argumentation on the Manifesto.

unfortunately Yea Forums is normalfag as fuck and growing more normalfag each day. pretty much every thread devolves into redditors blogging about their sexual experiences while unironically calling other people incels and giving /soc/ tier advice/humblebragging to each other. It's fucking sad the state of this place.

Yeah, that's a good summary if you didn't watch a single second of it. Good try at guessing, my man, I don't want to watch all 3 hours either.

This is a pretty good thread, kudos to every user contributing, especially

Extremely happy.
We had a special place for unhappy people called Gulag. It was a big improvement over summary execution.

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>tfw you wanted to fight a Marxist edgelord caricature but you ended up becoming buddies instead and had more in common with him than you thought
>tfw he's marrying your daughter next year

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Arent like the Russian polls saying disolvment of USSr was big mistake? It was those silly kids and their desire for Hasselhoff and jeans that destroyed USSR :P

anyone got some Zizek Peterson shipping stories or yaio pics?

This but unironically

Sure. They wanted to get rid of socialist dictatorship. Instead they ended up getting rid of socialism, but not the dictatorship. Oops.

>dilettante
DON'T YOU EVER SAY THAT WORD AGAIN!

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How is Zizek not a Marxist? Because he doesn't act like a Communist straight out of the 19th century?

plenty of old people in Eastern Europe do miss the communist system. They don't really care for ideology, they are just lost in a capitalist society principles of which they don't really understand or know how to navigate.
t. eastern european

Ussr dissolves, Industry is put in stock and given to average joes, average joes sell for pennies on the dollar, Oligarchs buy companies for 10 percent of their value. what was the solution or what went wrong? what should have happened?

>Mistake
Nigger it’s not like some people got together and decided it’s time to fall apart, it was economic collapse in the first place, ironically communist ideology turned out to be shit in regards of goods production and wealth distribution.

GOBLINA MILKIES

amazon pays really well if you're a programmer. Of course replaceable wage slaves get the shaft.

>DISPITE

ESL GENOCIDE WHEN

Communists know they can't out produce Capitalists short of automation. Their only hope was to expand their ideology far and wide, which Stalin turned his back on almost immediately.

JUST LISTENING INTENTLY

HES TRYING TO DECIPHER HIS COKED UP COMMIESPEAK

Democratic reform (A lot of modern commies hate Gorbachev, and they have a point, but greater transparency and democracy was something the system needed) and modernization, both of the industry and the method of economic planning. Allende's Cybersyn, a prototype for central planning of the economy with digital means has shown some extremely promising results. You know. Until the Americans had him killed and installed a murderous military dictatorship. And that was in the 70s. It was a technology that deserved to be further pursued.

I don’t understand why this irrelevant communism vs capitalism debate is relevant. Seems like a red herring to distract rubes from actual issues, like globalisation, corruption and forced diversity. Am I wrong?

When he failed to plan he planned to fail

Yes.

>globalisation
>forced diversity
>bad

Globalisation and Forced Diversity are red herrings to distract people from actual issues like the inherent problems with capitalism.

This and I despise Foucault.

It was also incredibly embarrassing arguing that Marx is in favor of equality of outcome based on the manifesto. Dude is a hack.

Did Peterson even actually read Capital? Why would you debate somebody about Marx and not read Capital? I'm not debating a guy who didnt even do the assigned reading.

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>if you're preparing for a debate against marxism
If you prepare for a debate against Marxism you wouldn't bring up Foucault or Derridas as defenders of Marxism.

Because he rejects are purely materialistic world video. This was addressed in the debate.

>globalisation
>forced diversity
>good

He hasn't. He also never read Foucault or Bourdieu.

also he doesn't know shit about lobsters. The biology community keeps shitting on him.

TV has their new Rick and Morty! Zizek!

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>Capitalism vs Marxism
What's the difference?

Zizek views on western culture and immigration are unacceptable to most modern masochistic leftists today. He'd be sent to the gulag right beside Peterson.
As far as I'm concerned they both won. The ticket prices were absurd, and they're both laughing all the way to the bank.

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hammerhead sharks need love too you know

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>new
>zizek
lurk more

>Zizek views on western culture and immigration are unacceptable to most modern masochistic leftists today.
>le straw man argument
He's the most popular living philosopher in the left by far. A few faggots on twitter complaining doesn't change that.

do you guys want to see my Zizek memes?

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he was blacklisted from mainstream media, nowdays he only appears on RT

what mainstream media?

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*Sniffs* *pulls tshirt*

There's old joke among Lacanians to exmplify the critique of the Other

Two jews taking a walk, pass by a Christian church. In church there is a sign that reads CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY AND WE WILL GIVE YOU 5000 DOLLARS. So the jews don't take the sign very seriously and continue walking and so on...

The very next day the same Jews pass the same church and one tells the other. "Hey do you think they really give away the 5000 dollars" to which the other replies "Ah, these Jews, all they care about in the money"

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those are horrible. are they from facebook or something? disgusting senpai

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>and immigration are unacceptable to most modern masochistic leftists today.
implying the mainstream left in the US was EVER for anything other than conservative immigration policy. Obama was deporter in chief. Immigration was trending down since the last financial crisis.

And the "refugee crisis" was an outcome of fucking Bush's terror wars.

Your fucking fantasy strawman of "the left" that is propped up for you to make pretend argue with in your hivemind doesn't actually exist.

Fucking doofus.

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*sniff* In the good old days of Really Existing Socialism, a joke popular among dissidents was used to illustrate the futility of their protests. In the fifteenth century, when Russia was occupied by Mongols, a peasant and his wife were walking along a dusty country road; a Mongol warrior on a horse stopped at their side and told the peasant he would now proceed to rape his wife; he then added: "But since there is a lot of dust on the ground, you must hold my testicles while I rape your wife, so that they will not get dirty!" Once the Mongol had done the deed and ridden away, the peasant started laughing and jumping with joy. His surprised wife asked: "how can you be jumping with joy when I was just brutally raped in your presence?" The farmer answered: "But I got him! His balls are covered with dust!"

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If you’re going to debate Marxism you should actually know what Marxism is. Peterson admitted to not having read the manifesto in over 4 decades, and was seemingly unaware of the existence of Capital. Peterson also didn’t seem familiar with Zizek’s background whereas Zizek had read Peterson’s work prior to the debate and was prepared to confront it. By the end of the debate all Peterson could do was agree with Zizek’s points.

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Capeshit is a more significant cultural artifact

Why don't you answer me? Did you just make something up?

that's not true, I've read a few papers that used crayfish to look at cocaine addiction

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what's not true? Even the biologists he cites openly speak out against his interpretations/reading on their research.

Do I need to read the Quran to know it's bullshit

thank you for your contribution to this thread, Russia

Peterson was already destroyed by /our guy/ Vox Day

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>Reddit spacing
>Accuses strawman by building his own strawman
>Uses reddit tier insult 'doofus' cuz he cant say nigger or faggot

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It's no different from Peterson vs Harris on religion, or Peterson vs Dillahunty.

Peterson simply has his own obfuscated view of the judeo-christian god. It's like saying "this bottle is God and this bottle exists, therefore Jesus".

Peterson is popular only because he went against the sjw retards. And I appreciate that.

He did not. He read the Communist Manifesto the day before the debate. He's also not read any of Zizek's works either.

He was basically straight up asking for the clowning he got.

>>>Internet Research Agency shill

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Zizek donated all of his profits to charity like the absolute chad he is.

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do you not understand what mainstream media is? prove me wrong and show me any of his recent appearances or articles published in mainstream papers

peterson is a controlled opposition shill, i'm glad he was humiliated like that

>A few faggots on twitter complaining doesn't change that.
NO NO NO ALL LEFTISTS ARE TRIGGERED SNOWFLAKES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>he doesn't number and catalogue his memes
oof

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mèmes

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So in recent days I've seen countless threads of you people arguing about who won or what's the correct definition of communism, marxism, etc.

Who cares? it's all just semantics and pseudointellectual rambling, you're not doing anything to actually make the world a better place.

How about forget about marxism, forget about capitalism, sit down and analyze the problems in the world without a partizan view, and maybe you'll find that you all agree on more things than disagree, same as zizek and peterson.

Then maybe you can try to do something about the problems, instead of just philosophizing. All this is just so vacuous, intellectualism that can not be successfully applied into the real world is absolutely worthless.

>Accuses strawman by building his own strawman
nope projection my guy why you do this?
what language do you speak?
reflexive whataboutism and labeling memes is something that foreign gooks do. Prove you understand the language you degenerate shill.

What country are you in right now

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Kr'neki. Fuk s tvojo m't je bil boljsi.

Kys faggot

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Based Venti poster

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I'm center right

what's to interpret? there's fundamental things in nature that both lobsters and humans follow

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there is literally nothing wrong with hebephillia

So I just foung out Zizek is a huge mysoginist. Interesting...

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Are you memeing? Do you know how biologists work? Pro tip: Nature doesn't have a language. You need a method, data, a thesis etc to understand it. Part of the process is reading and interpreting data and papers of other researchers. This is what the professional call "science".

Reddit and Yea Forums love pandering to pedos. Why is this?

thats coverage of the fact that the debate happened, not anything written by Zizek, which is what I asked you to provide

>show me any of his recent appearances

well, thats not an appereance

>american intelectuals

theguardian.com/books/video/2018/oct/24/slavoj-zizek-tells-owen-jones-clinton-is-the-problem-not-trump
independent.co.uk/author/slavoj-zizek
economist.com/open-future/2018/10/08/are-liberals-and-populists-just-searching-for-a-new-master

>american
>an canadian and slovganistani

Based and neoliberalpilled

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that both are only know in america

FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH PETERSON

NOW ZIZEK IS MY BEST FRIEND

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Both are world renown. I'm assuming you live in a shithole. Sup panjeet.

Ok this is great and all, but how are we supposed to find happiness?

based

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LOL nice propaganda pasta. Your cuck daddy gets blown out so now suddenly it's "pfft who cares guise"

and then like always with peepersman shills it turns it into blaming it on everyone else and telling everyone else to get their shit straight before thinking of criticizing the industries that are propping him up.

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They're only treated and paid well because they're hard to replace. If programmers were as easy to replace as warehouse workers they'd have abominable working conditions as well.

aka America and UK?

twitter.com/hostageklller/status/1119367322379202562

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I like it when Zizek makes friends

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He's right, you know?

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Uh-oh, SJWs are getting reminded why they hate Zizek. I thought it would take a month, at least.
twitter.com/zei_nabq/status/1119925937611603968

based

not really jim tries to be different things and attacks people who are currently popular at said thing

its sad, he even thought the wall street journal was out to get him

wtf I love Zizek now. fuck trannies

>nothing wrong with hebephillia
>heebs
>philia
Attraction to the Juden? There's plenty wrong with that.

Zizek is and always was /ourguy/

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cunnykino has been a staple of Yea Forums since its founding ya newfag

CHAPOCELS BTFO

LMAOOOOOO

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Two memes spouting garbage at each other whole retarded partisans clap and jeer. Imagine wasting your life listening to what these two retards have to say about anything

seething tranny

>spend most of life rambling and deconstructing various aspects of life
>don't come up with any real conclusions that benefit anyone
>all you have done is tell people how you perceive the world like a child does
>get paranoid everyone around you must not be thinking
>die

philosophy

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Friendly reminder Zizek is /our guy/

>Racist islamophonic trash
>Racist
When will dipshit nu-leftists realize that Islam is not a race it's a fucking organized world religion that is virulently opposed to the mere existence of their soi lifestyles? Imagine being such a brainwashed bourgie moron that you call anyone critical of Islam a racist

What was the book himmler had that zizek mentioned? WTF was he saying, unless you already knew what he was talking about some of the conversation sounds like a girrafe getting throat fucked

Nobody gave two shots about the debate, what the fuck are you talking about? This is the first thread in hours about the subject.

Thread saged, hidden and reported.

I still don't understand how one old polite Canadian man can send r*ddit into such an eternal assmad tailspin.

zizek is more authoritarian and right wing than peterson. idk why liberals and leftists are claiming the debate a victory for them

we won bros. we won

They're both middle weight tier, also trannies deserve the gas chamber

I like how he was seriously delusional enough to think he might be able to go through "a couple of his books" in just one day.

>The entire premise for the debate was fucking dumb anyway because Marxism doesn't have any countries to point to that are anticapitalist.
Anymore, because they all failed. Really makes you think.

Zizek is a based leftist that sees the problems of capitalism but doesn't want to go full commie for the memes and approaches new social issues with nuance rather than just having it part of a team sport.

Peterson is just interested in appealing to incels and /pol/tards with no knowledge of what Marxism is other than a cool word to use as a boogeyman.

That's why Zizek is based and Peterson is cringe

Daily reminder that based Zizek gave away his fee for this debate while Peterberg was charging $15 to watch a livestream on his website.

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Because people don't care if they come to an understanding. It's all a game to them, like football or baseball, and they just want to see their team win.

>/pol/ likes "juden peterstein" as they call him
Nope. They like Zizek.
>Everyone on /pol/ has no idea when it comes to marxism
Kek, keep telling yourself that.

>Everyone on /pol/ has no idea when it comes to marxism
>Kek, keep telling yourself that.
/pol/ literally, and I mean literally has the same understanding of marxism as Peterson does.

buy my carpet libtard

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>tfw he's marrying your daughter next year
Is this actually happening? What a cuck.

I wouldn't say "everyone" because that's a very wide net to cast, but the average /pol/tard has basically the same definition of "Marxism" as Peterson. To deny that is to deny reality.

can I get a tldr

Nice

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1.I don't think /pol/ likes peterson
2./pol/ wants socialism but they want national
3.they want socialism so bad they are willing to allow fascism first

>can I get a tldr

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There are not a lot of things that /pol/ and Peterson have in common, but the meaning of the word "Marxism" is definitely one of them

I would rather see Peterson vs Jared Taylor desu.

Is that a webm of a tranny dilating?

Will you get out of your own ass? Why read gay ass theory when communism has been attempted in reality? Peterson doesn't actually have to read any of that SHIT!!!!FACT!!!

Political beliefs aside...

Zizek is an accomplished scholar while Peterson is a memelord whose fanbase mainly consists of fedoras, manchildren and actual children.

>My daddy can fist you better than your daddy cam fist me! (live)
when?

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>Lobsters may have hierarchy, but the main guy among them, I don’t think he has authority
Peterson absolutey BTFO by this one throwaway line by Zizek

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When did Yea Forums turn on Peterson I thought people worshiped him here

>Peterson doesn't have to understand the theory he's debating, he can make up whatever he feels like making up based on the 3 page summary he read on Wikipedia and there's nothing wrong with this
based retard
Why understand what you're talking about? I'm thinking of going the next step: Instead of replying to you and what you're saying, I'm just gonna assume you said "I'm a humongous faggot". Here's my response: Wow. Really? You're a humongous faggot? That's pretty gay, my dude.

Zizek skull fucked Peterson real good imho

[email protected]

FACT: It is indeed pretty gay to be a humongous faggot

We cleaned our rooms and nothing happened

>Peterson doesn't actually have to read
Oh it shows, user. It shows.

>one jew-approved ideology vs. another jew-approved ideology
Can't let the proles think there are more choices than that, can you?

Because he's anti-White.

Peterson=trump=reddit
Zizek=Yang=Yea Forums
Thoughts?

Yang is reddit

AOC = Yea Forums

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Maybe nu/pol/ , mainly because it's just a leddit colony these days. There was a time when cultural Marxism didn't just mean any kind of socjus faggotry and we could talk about why critical theory is retarded.

Typical hegelian behavior

I think you're fucking retarded if you think a college professor is equal to Trump lmao

Based and truepilled

>/pol/ wants socialism
Only the leftists on /pol/ but of course newfags who have never posted there think it is only populated by reactionaries and stormfags

>communist spic = Yea Forums

this tbphwyf

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>Dispite
>Dispite the fact
Not only is that a retarded strawman it's a retarded meme with spelling errors. How lazy.

>Explain how post-modernism is rebranded Marxism when Marxism is a materialistic philosophy
Mainly because of Foucalt's obsession with power structures and the fact that a lot of the pomo's were former marxists. Makes sense to me.

/pol/ has been precisely this plus trumpfags for the last few years

>already hit the wall
lmao

Yang is Russia

>what are unflattering angles
zoom zoom instagram isn't real life zoomer

Seeing Jared Taylor destroy Peterson would be fucking amazing

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You are reddit

Ah yes, the two quintessential boomer conmen who have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about, but since millennials know even less about politics than them, they pretend they are geniuses and donate to their patreon.
Pic related, the average follower of "political intelectuals".

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>capitalism vs marxism
Joke question.
The answer is neither.

JBP proved he had limited understanding of "Marxism", "post-modernism", "modernity" etc and I don't think he mentioned "Happines" once. I can't understand why he went into a massive debate where "marxism" was going to be a significant subject and he didn't do his homework on it. I can't understand how he can make a living by being an apparent anti-marxist yet not be incredibly well versed in the subject.
Zizek confirmed what everybody already knows , he's not a fan of post-modernism or SJW's. He problematised the notion that academia is crawling with marxists (Materialists who prioritise economics as the key determining factor in human life, not blue-haired trans-faggot snowflakes with bad tattoos and piercings).... then went on to regurgitate his usual not-very-interesting-now stories *sniff*

It was shite and was always going to be shite. The fact that Zizek was portrayed as being the human incarnate of "post-modernist academica" and "SJW" culture is grounds for false advertising.

nobody "won". We all lost a little

yeah and she crushed it, fuck trump fuck the wall

What a dumb meme. Peterson explained the genealogical connection between Marxism and postmodernism by way of 1960s French intellectuals and Zizek's reply was, "ah, yes, you're correct."

>unflattering angles
AKA every single time you don't photoshop yourself to death.
Not like she had any chance to be hot, she's a spic.

>unflattering angle
chyeah right that's the best angle. that's the she's on top of you looking for dinner momma birb look

>Ah yes, the two quintessential boomer conmen who have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about, but since millennials know even less about politics than them, they pretend they are geniuses and donate to their patreon.
Only one of these two has ever had a patreon zoomer. Zizek is a well respected philosopher with about 40 books to his name.

she was shilling on Yea Forums way before that

Can someone explain to me why amerimutts listen to the generation that ruined the world?

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I present to you, the average American Zoomer

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>Slovenian professor
>baby boomer

I've been posting on /pol/ since it was created and you're completely mistaken. If anything most of the actual natsocs and misc reactionaries stopped posting and moved to ironmarch, 8pol, or random irl groups they now participate in.

/pol/ has always been edgy and scorned most leftists but it's never been a total hivemind like many claim.

I haven't watched the debate but I still enjoy these threads

Huh?

>philosopher
The idea of a post-Nietzsche philosopher is absolutely hilarious. Is this one of those terms you add to people to make yourselves feel more important than you actually are?
Like when you brand your internet shitposting a "culture war"?

>a well respected
By whom, by a bunch of millennials? Do they respect their beloved boomer as much as Captain America?

>Zizek
>Patreon conman

Why are zoomers so uneducated

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Why does only Peterson get the ''Dr.'' in front of his name? Zizek has a phd too.

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>b 1949
>born in the immediate aftermath of ww2
>not a baby boomer
u ratarded ?

Playing pretend

So, one makes money from Patreon, and the other from books that nobody reads?
Interesting business these useless "intelectuals" have.
Then again, we can't expect much from people so useless that they didn't even manage to get into politics, considering how utterly retarded the average politician is.

he's not a faggot shill that hides behind his title and appeal to authority

Based.
They managed to agree that none of the popular criticisms of socialism are valid and /pol/ posters as well as SJWs are just tribal cunts.

>In the late 1980s, Žižek came to public attention as a columnist for the alternative youth magazine Mladina, which was critical of Tito's policies, Yugoslav politics, especially the militarization of society. He was a member of the Communist Party of Slovenia until October 1988, when he quit in protest against the JBTZ trial together with 32 other Slovenian intellectuals.[28] Between 1988 and 1990, he was actively involved in several political and civil society movements which fought for the democratization of Slovenia, most notably the Committee for the Defence of Human Rights.[29]
Zoom Zoom read a book

Post Zizek kino

youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8ibrfXvpQ

> He was a member of the Communist Party of Slovenia
Why are you millennials obsessed with supporting dead ideologies?
After the west spent the entire 20th century stomping the nazi scum and torturing communists to death, you actually dare to come back?
And you come back in the form of a generation of autistic manchildren?
What's wrong with you?

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema isn't a book, retard. Seriously, for someone who posts on Yea Forums and tries to paint himself as an intellectually superior fellow you don't seem to know much about cinema. What's your favourite film, Zoomer? Is it Shazam?

>deflecting
If Millennials were the only ones respecting Zoomers how did he come to public attention in the 80s? Explain this to me, Zoomer-kun.

*respecting Zizek

>Why are you millennials obsessed with supporting dead ideologies?
What do you mean by dead? There are communist and socialist parties in every country in the world. Marx is still relevant to economics today. The idea of free markets and capitalism is older than marxism.

>debates

Explain to me why this is a thing in 2019?

Well, you know what they say, millennials are boomers 2.0
Two generations of traitors who support ideologies known because of how hard we destroyed them.
You are no different than nazi germany and the soviet union, and you should receive the same treatment.

Destiny would BTFO both of these boomers

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>expecting zoomers to be educated on geopolitics

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>There are communist
You mean the massive joke that North Korea is? Maybe Venezuela?
And there's no nazi countries either, and for a good reason.

These ideologies provoke death.
People talk about religious deaths a lot, but they ignore that, in only 100 years, nazis and communists killed more than all religions combined throughout all human history.

To support nazism or communism is to be a terrorist.
And look at this, this time the terrorists are a generation of obese, balding "men" and blue haired women.
At least you'll make it easy for when we have to deal with you.

this would actually be funny if the world werent literally falling apart

When you have to use tactics like this to win it speaks volumes about the strength of your argument.

There are communist and socialist parties all over Europe.

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Yeah yeah, all millennials are either nazis or communists.

There's also far-right ones.
Why aren't all these "people" in Guantanamo?
Why isn't every single communist and nazi party in the world automatically prosecuted?
Why do we let the enemies of the west exist?

Zizek is Chris Chan come back from the future

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Yes you are. 10 years of cultural terrorism, and now you support nazism and communism because you want actual terrorism to happen.
Millennials are a threat.

>comparing socialists to the fair-right

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>nazi party
>enemy of the west

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>Communists and Nazis are enemies of "the west"
The west has never only been liberal capitalistic democracies btw.

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Wrong, I'm a centrist.

Are you not?
Everytime you do something it's all to bring harm to the west.
Like communism.

And every time it's been otherwise the west has been a shithole.
There's a reason the west spent a century destroying the opposition.

closeted gay "uncle" vs drunk "uncle".

neither one of them are my dad, my mom just fucks them for pills and to get her probation paid.

One on the left looks like a rapist.
One on the right looks like a 60 year old NEET.

Norway's socialist party was part of the ruling coalition from 2005 to 2013. Is Norway an enemy of the West?

it's funny unread retards are pretending they know who Hegel is at this point

Not anymore, it seems.
But i've never liked nordics anyway.

What ideology do you support then?

I didn't watch this but I'm not surprised in the least to learn that Peterson got dabbed on. He has always been awful at debating.

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Ask literally any older person anywhere in the world of things were better when they were younger and they'd say yes.

>3300 calories a day vs 3500 calories
No wonder Soviets and Americans didn't go to war, they were too fucking fat to fight one.

>the average american eats 1 pund of calories daily

no wonder we are lardasses

The whole thing was awful

but Zizek still "won" as he at least understood the basics of Marx, which JBP only read....the 30-page pamphlet from 200 years ago designed to get dirt farmers angry.

>And every time it's been otherwise the west has been a shithole.
Monarchy did the west just find desu. Also, liberal democracies are supremely worse than meritocratic republics and constitutional monarchies.

A lot of liberal capitalistic democracies were and are complete shitholes

Right now none.
I'm waiting for the millennial shitstorm to pass so politicians stop appealing to their retardation and see which one can actually do some good.
Until then, it's all fight to make the other side angry.

No one born between 1985 and 1995 should be allowed to vote.

>A lot of liberal capitalistic democracies were and are complete shitholes
Which countries do you mean in particular?

he has two PhDs actually, but dooesn't use the title because he thisnks it's stupid. he also makes sure to always look like a hobo. he's making a point.

what do I need to do to truly understand marxism

this is true though

... do you expect politicians to create completely new ideologies?

I think I developed schizophrenia from listening to these two insane boomers discuss failed ideologies.
Why people follow these is beyond me.

i would like to see a JRE type thing with the two of them talking about shit like this, but in a friendly comfy setting.

Which parties are appealing to Millennials, and how?

I expect them to work on actual policies beyond how minorities are treated, which is all dumbass millennials care about, and thus, the only thing politicians appeal to.

please tell me that pic isn't real.
actually, tell me it IS real so that it further confirms the clown world we are in.

>115 IQ

Brit Zizek would wipe the floor with you

Populist parties.

Same

Why?
Why the hell do people care about what civilians debate?
What do you get out of this?
How does this benefit anyone?

Explain how any of the policies enacted by the EU this year was about "how minorities are treated". I don't see how tariffs, regulations, fisheries and automobiles relate to minorities, so please enlighten me.

If you're a Burger, feel free to talk about US policies instead.

Millennials have way too much free time.
It's what happens when you don't have a job.

>baww why would anyone want ot see that for?
simple, imagine the memes that would come out of it.

Which ones, and how?

Also, if it's just populist parties, why do you have to wait for the "millennial shitstorm" to pass when you could just turn to non-populist parties instead? I don't recall any European country with a populist government except for Italy.

Hahahah, that would be epic for the win, right?

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What's your job?

So, there's absolutely no point to these "debates"?
Why do you idiots even watch them in the first place?
Seriously, what to these boomers do?
Do they even have an actual job?

I work for a private security company.

its wrestling for the ivory tower wannabe crowd.

ebin X---D))))

Enjoy your trash drama while you wait for your fantasy show.

youtube.com/watch?v=8JXgXCagdxk

isn't the the guy who was supposed to argue pro marxism? fucking retard all this lgbtqtuep+ and feminist trash only exists partly because of it + critical theory virus infesting every single thing

Well, here in the US you have the republican and democrat parties, not inherently populist but they became that over the past few years as millennials flooded politics with their autism.
Since millennials are the kind that only understand about shiny stuff, they need to appeal to emotions rather than logic, which is how we ended up having to choose between the clowns that Hillary and Trump are, and this retardation will continue as long as millennials are allowed to vote.

>some patreon retard and a coke addicted communist are considered intellectuals in the 21st century

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>Ah yes, the two quintessential boomer conmen who have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about
This is actually true, none of these boomers know what's going on in the world or can explain the resurgence we've been seeing of the right-wing worldwide, Yea Forums is too complex for them to understand, the influence of meme culture and the impact that a website like this can have. They're literally clueless and pretty much can only speak for the past and not the present

Millennials don't turn up to vote, retard. That's why the Red tide happened in 2010. Obama counted on them and they didn't show up.

It's Boomers and GeXers from Facebook who fall for emotional populism hook line and sinker. And judging by Trump's popularity with edgy kids, so does your generation.

yeah, you know jordan is something of a scientist himself?

You take what you can get.
They had to pick the only people left that are interested in politics that don't have their face full of piercings or have their hair dyed green.

Well, I hope the counter culture movement is true so my generation completely forgets about politics at all.
Millennials have already caused way too much harm with their stupid "culture war".

camión de leche ha llegado

>Well, I hope the counter culture movement is true so my generation completely forgets about politics at all.
Wait what. You don't want Zoomers to be politically active?

Isn't this exactly what you dislike about Millennials?

Baby Boomers are exclusively American

No, my problem with millennials is their autism regarding politics and how their entire existence revolves around them.
They play a videogame?
They talk about politics.
They watch a movie?
Politics.
They take a shit?
They'll somehow turn it into a political statement.

They obsessed over politics and spent the last 10 years making the world a worse place while not doing anything good.

>face full of piercings
>dyed hair

So... Zoomers?

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No.
Millennials.

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Oh boy if you think that's bad then you are NOT ready for Gen Z. Ever since Zoomers started coming to Yea Forums every board turned into a political shitflinging fest. Zoomers politicize absolutely anything.

Why can I tell that these two are Americans?

nope they're way more relevant in european populations that suffered way more casualties than the Americans
don't be thick

>shove your retarded progressive politics into video games and movies
>waah why are you talking about it just accept it
shut the fuck up retard

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Millennials: Bieber haircuts, plaid shirts, skinny jeans, thick glasses, beards and manbuns.

Zoomers: What you just posted. Fuckton of facial accessoirs, also blue/pink/green/grey hair.

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And who shoved them in the first place?
Who support shoving them?
Millennials.

What are you talking about?
There's zoomers who can't even vote yet.
And no, it's millennials, it's always been millennials.
The ones turning media into propaganda are millennials.
The ones fighting on Twitter are always balding fat 30 year old men and blue haired aging feminists.

But most importantly, Zoomers plaster their bodies with tattoos like it's fucking ad space. Look at 's hands. No other generation was retarded enough to permatattoo their hands.

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