.. The white walkers having no motivation or backstory?
Because there isn't.. in my opinion, going to be a big reveal. They just hate being living weapons. Like if the Terminators ... well just like the Terminators. They want to destroy their makers because they aren't worth a damn for creating them in the first place.
They also literally don't have time to pack all that shit in.. even if they make something up... with all the relationships that have to pay off in a few episodes.
I feel like the threads saying, "BUT WHO WERE THEY!" when people don't just look instead of needing it explained to them. All the context clues just say they bio weapons gone rouge.
>All the context clues just say they bio weapons gone rouge They were the first men the children of the forest cursed for persecuting them. The curse turned (as curses do) and the children got wiped out by their own weapon.
Zachary James
They don't need to have deep motivations because the story is already many better than LotR. >The war that Tolkien wrote about was a war for the fate of civilization and the future of humanity, and that’s become the template. I’m not sure that it’s a good template, though. The Tolkien model led generations of fantasy writers to produce these endless series of dark lords and their evil minions who are all very ugly and wear black clothes. But the vast majority of wars throughout history are not like that.
>.. The white walkers having no motivation or backstory?
sauron has no motivation whatsoever yet lotr is praised here all the time
embarissing stuff...there's literally no difference. shit "fantasy" when there's no fantasy. stop consuming it. stop watching it
James Moore
DABID
Jayden Howard
Uh. Yes he does.This whole book is literally his backstory. It's pretty much how the first 6 star wars movies are abotu Darth Vader but on a much grander scale.
Now, in the films they didn't get into it much other than the deleted scene nods BUT they did provide his desire to control all the people of middle earth by giving them the gift of the rings. This is all covered in the Silmarillion.
Tolkein was his literary Godfather the ungrateful cuck.
Caleb Williams
The guy you replied to, Tolkien and that one guy in my hometown who REALLY likes Tolkien.
Jason Howard
Clark, who sits next to me in algebra Bob, his brother Juan, even though i’m not sure he speaks english
Nolan Kelly
>implying any people on this board read letalone watch movies don't you have another brie larson thread to make?
Kevin Cox
I read about half of it until I gave up. I just don't care about the world of LotR nearly enough to finish what reads like a history book, but with really silly names.
Ryder Wright
>intrigue porn >any better
Zachary Bell
Isn't it weird how the show is just a cookie cutter nerdy fantasy story about ancient evils and dragon princes/princesses now that it's popular? Nobody would've recommended this show to anyone if it was like that in 2011. To get anybody to watch it you had to explain how it's not like a normal fantasy, it's about families, character, and schemes of revenge and who to trust. It just pisses me off because now when people talk about GoT I have to autistically explain which version I like and why I don't like what they like.
Connor Ward
I read it 3 times.
Matthew Fisher
>normies
Normies? yeah, they don't care. Bookfags will probably have a hissyfit though and be like it will be better in the books.
Easton Russell
I was hoping as much as Yea Forums like the films they would know that the Silmarillion is basically Saurons story.
My best friend has terrible taste in movies and shows, and told me season 7 was the best season yet. I personally thought it was the worst season. People like different things.
Hunter Rogers
Me, this guy and this guy
Isaiah Cooper
It's basically just sagas. Tolkiens attempt at writing little novels that were loosely connected to tell a wider story. He was just retelling Beowolf, and Norse myth, and twisting it his way.
Essentially it's what lucas did with Star wars in a way. But Tolkein only had books in the 1900s - not 30's serials and Japanese cinema.
Anyway. It's basically a creation myth. He explains where the dwarves and Elves come from. He Tells who Saurons master was (basically the devil) and Sauron himself is basically the anti-christ. Morgoth was basically a rebel angel adn Sauron was his biggest follower and kind of on the same level as Gandalf. Gandalf is basically an angel.
Then there is a big side plot with these Jewels that was basically a prototype for the ring and are tied into Morgoths fall.
And then He explains atlantis or tells his version and ties it all together to the Hobbit and LOTRs with an epic end of the age fight to destroy Morgoth. Sauron hangs around and talks his way out of punishment and slowly rots the world. But the gods refuse to interfere anymore so they send Gandalf to help.
I know they do, and i'm not angry about that. But you'd never have convinced them to watch GoT in the state it is now if it was like this in the beginning. It's Eragon level generic fantasy crap
Hudson Scott
It has meaning - it's a metaphor. But it has no implicit childlike backstory to relate to emotionally.
I think kids are just addicted to comic origins. Short stupid explanations.
John Thomas
The show turned complete shit beyond season 3 anyway, at first they had direction, characters, stories, politics, you could watch the characters interacting and learn something, now it's just a popcorn flick, especially with the intrigue and mystique it kept building up to got demolished, some things should just not be shown.
Leo Williams
Some things become so popular, that even when they are really bad, people still believe it's great.
Wyatt Cruz
>dude tolkein didn't write Sauron's backstory either stop shitting on based GoT *posts evidence* >dude nobody read them anyways who cares
GoT normies should be hung on a cross
Benjamin Foster
LOL.
I guess if a work strikes a cord and gets popular.. you're going to have ignorant fans who are just enjoying the ride and don't really have much attachment to the art other than the herd mentality of sharing the meme of knowing it.
>trying to find significant backstory >in the blandest fantasy series since the DnD storybooks
Julian Gray
Just to piss you off
Leo Ward
They're not going to reveal much because that's what the tedious spin off series is for.
Bentley Gonzalez
Pray tell user, what fantasy series does a cultured man like yourself consider stimulating?
Joshua Collins
none fantasy is for nerds
Camden Bell
The fact that people actually think her name is Khalessi will never not trigger me. How do you watch this shit for 8 seasons and not know her name?
Carson Gomez
The white walkers are like worlock terminators. They raise the dead as foot soldiers. Wights are the undead.
The scene where the White Walker stands on pier and does the come at me bro stances he's raising the dead and making them wights.
There are only a handful of white walkers but 100's of thousands of undead wites.
Ryan Ortiz
This. They think capeshit villains have compelling motivations ffs
Jackson Reyes
They called her khaleesi for like 3 whole seasons
Jose Russell
>shits on "le evil dark lord" plots >writes a book series about "le evil dark lord" What did the fat fuck mean by this?
Evan Thompson
Normies don't care about character development or motivation, all they care about are plot points, action (men), and romance (women). That's why Game of Thrones is so popular because if you think about it those are the three elements of which it solely consists. I stopped watching it around season 3 because whenever a main character started becoming an actual character they'd be killed off for some ebin plot development or to take the viewer by surprise (case in point the red wedding.)
David Rivera
He's a hack. We have known this for a while
Joseph Price
This fat fuck is such a hack, his writing style is trash.
Hunter Harris
>The Tolkien model led generations of fantasy writers to produce these endless series of dark lords and their evil minions who are all very ugly and wear black clothes OH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
>no motivation or backstory > They just hate being living weapons. Like if the Terminators ... well just like the Terminators. They want to destroy their makers because they aren't worth a damn for creating them in the first place. Funny. That sounds like a back story.
Jace Campbell
Show us on the doll where JRR touched you, George.
Yup, at least according to the show lore they were created by the children of the forest as a weapon against the encroaching first men. I’m interested in seeing what actually stopped them the first time around.
Brandon Ramirez
I think it's popular in spite of it. There is enough to wet the imagination and it hints at the world GRRM tried to create. The deeper nuance is there but you don't have to know it to like the show.
It's a delicate balance and a good adaptation because of that. It appeals to normies. It's like writing a good pop song that has some darker melodies
Aiden Ross
A bullshit mcguffin that will be introduced in episode 3.
Joshua Johnson
Why doesn't ADB just see a therapist about his dad?
I think George maybe had something interesting brewing once upon a time. You have two competing supernatural factions (white walkers - ice and the red witches - fire) neither of which are objectively good.
Ryan Morris
Not even that. I got it fine from the movies he wanted to rule over everyone. It's a simple motivation but a valid one
Benjamin Hernandez
The show is so popular the last episode could be two guys sword fighting with their dicks for 2 hours and people will talk about how crazy and good the ending was. The sopranos literally cut to black because they couldn't come up with an ending and people still call it the best show of all time.
Julian Ramirez
The SS wore black
Christopher Edwards
the books were worse than the TV show
Jack Peterson
>turned
Angel Barnes
LOL... Not sure. I wish he would write more though, he is literally their best writer. I wish he'd break off and make up his own thing.
So soldiers on the frontlines against an enemy have no reason to kill multiple people? Think before you post.
William Powell
I think, like a lot of things, he realised it was too much effort and gave up. Personally I thought he was going to go the Lovecraft route and make both sides out to be inscrutable, eldritch things whose real motives would never really be known
Levi Nguyen
the white walkers aren't soldiers. They make the undead which are soldiers. you're dumb
Hunter Mitchell
Normies don't give a shit. Normies will love it because of cool action scenes, they don't stop to think about the lore.
Kevin Miller
Daily reminder there is only 5 episodes left, this is like getting near the end of L O S T and realizing there's no way it's all going to make sense
Jackson Ramirez
In GRRM's defence, in the books the others aren't really a threat to westeros. The real threat are all the wildlings that are fleeing south and that might even collapse the wall to do it (thus making the others a real threat). The others themselves were there just to be this creepy unknowable threat whenever the characters were behind the wall and the instigators of the wildling migration. But of course D&D need their fucking ice zombies
Dominic Moore
>In GRRM's defence, in the books the others aren't really a threat to westeros
I think that's where he wrote himself into a corner, they could no longer just be a shadowy threat lurking beyond the wall, especially when he brought the Azor Ahai stuff into it.
Jace Perry
How do they tie the lord of the light into all of this shit in 5 episodes?
Hunter Richardson
Show has become trash TV. No books no good.
Samuel Gonzalez
They aren't even that cool anymore. At first they were nice, like that Bronn fight scene or Ned v Jaime. Now the show has retarded fights like the Tower of joy one.
Jack Thomas
I wish they'd just end this mess already and start some new series based on an earlier history, something like the Blackfyre Rebellion for instance. Make it 3-4 seasons long so it doesn't get boring, then move to another event.
Juan Scott
ZZ Top and Blue Man Group made a supergroup? Finally, I thought they were dead on stage last I saw them.
Christopher Taylor
Book description: >elegant >beautiful >graceful >calm >mirror armor
Show: >YEEAH DEWD >SCARY ZAMBIE >SCREAM FOR THE CAMERA BRO >"rrRRREEAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa"
This. They were basically ice elves in the books and the show made them wrinkly ballsacks. And my memory could be wrong but weren't the wrights completely silent even when they were attacking? Or am I confusing them with the ending of Herbert West: Reanimator?
They are white, therefore evil. All you need to know.
Lincoln Smith
If you want to know whole story, you had to renew HBO for next year's prequel series.
Carson Barnes
>>writes a book series about "le evil dark lord" Who's the evil dark lord in the books?
Benjamin Nguyen
Me, twice. Also my dad.
Ayden Cox
Where da white walker women at?
Kayden Jenkins
White walkers are the metaphor for african invasion of Europe. Undeads are the dumb as a brick average nigger, while leaders like Night king are the Soros-tier figure. Prove me wrong (lmao faggot you cant!)
How did they read active camo stalhrim, but give them shitty rags and henchman black leathers? They're meant to be fucking elves, not scrotum demons, I'll always be made about this
i stopped watching after the red wedding too. that was when it was apparent that the story wasn't going anywhere.
David Foster
When the white walkers are defeated Westeros becomes democratic and becomes a utopia. So Bran wargs back in time as the night king to repeat the story.
Mason Baker
rewind time
Kevin Mitchell
>Things can have only one interpretation
Dylan Jenkins
t. El Goblino
Jason Reed
The walkers are in two scenes in the book.
Christian Lee
People are wrong
Jeremiah Scott
Night King isn't in the books
Jeremiah Diaz
>global warming >not nuclear winter
Josiah Flores
read the books tard. OH wait, they arent even written yet
Joshua Rodriguez
>show fanfiction What does it have to do with what gurm wrote? For the retards who fail to realise this, he's not shitting on Tolkien (each stool looser than the last), he's shitting on everyone else invariably copying Tolkien. He doesn't try to be or see himself as better than Tolkien, just different
what bothers me is that they couldn't come up with costumes more creative than le black evil garbs on the books they have like enechanted ice armor or some shit like that
Christian Peterson
Harry Potter
Michael Powell
Idiot.
Henry Ortiz
Why are none of them female? Why are they all old men?
Liam Myers
How would you have it tie up? Summarize your re-write of the last two seasons for me.
I unironically agree with your opinion 100%, but I don't see how the multi-factionalism could be preserved in a climactic way. Everyone is vying for the throne and either must die or join another cause, necessarily creating the situation we're in.
please refrain from posting my smug boy glorfindel in got threads thank you muh evil patriarchy
Nathaniel Evans
How do they reproduce then? They can’t all be crasters sons
Cooper Foster
Still better writer by a superior writer than lord of the boring monarchist racist bullshit.
Brayden Cox
I too like to think of myself as vastly superior in taste and intellect from all the sickeningly stupid mouthbreathing normies out there that are entertained by simplistic unsophisticated cookie cutter crap. If it does not subvert all expectations and tread ground that has never been tread by any film or tv series in history then I will make claims of enjoying it.
Show changed them into being a cursed human. Book had them being an actual race, with a female one even seducing a stark Lord Commander and becoming his queen. And more than a few hints that both the starks and boltons have Other ancestry.
You have not read the books then. Melkor, Sauron and Saruman are depicted as beautiful and mesmerizing beings and the races are willing to follow them because they all have MAX CHA build.
Chase Ross
>Jeremyclarksondrivesaconvertable.jpg Fuck that's a dumb design, especially the chubbo hands.
Jayden Martin
This. Silmarillion movie never ever and maybe that's a good thing.
Dominic Murphy
Will you incels ever get over this
Austin Barnes
I fucking did. My dad forced me to when I was like 8.
Jayden Hill
fuck thats basically child abuse.
Aaron Miller
by not even bothering at all.
This is going to have a Battlestar Galactica style >Wrap up all plot points, deus ex what you have to, ignore every fucking thing else ending
Jason Watson
Well yeah, it was a punishment!
Andrew Peterson
Ignorant, savage foreign refugees running into a nation through a wall and fucking up the host nation work as a villain in the 00s and in 2010. But not now. GRRM likely sees that shit will not fly now and will tank his career real hard.
Gabriel Gutierrez
Other way around. They are the european invasion of Africa.
Kevin Nguyen
>But global warning isnt real Ah the dangerous creature called a merchant of doubt.
Nathan Martin
So if Walking Dead did not exist and was not fucking huge around the time this show was made, would the Walkers still be albino zombies?
