Zizek's closing remarks: You can be a leftist and not be politically correct. And also, Trump is not a fascist

What the fuck was with Peterson talking about the communist manifesto 80% of the time?

Hmm it's almost as though the average leftist isn't a discord tranny but a reasonable person just like the average right winger isn't from stormfront

yes but nobody watches debates for their capability of changing the world anymore. it's either to confirm one's previously held views or just to enjoy the shitshow

debates have never changed anything

Not particularly familiar with who either of these guys are, but just based on appearance I'd have a tough time taking the guy on the left seriously. I'd expect him to be found dead in his computer chair covered in sweat from a hear attack during a wank.

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>OP just keeps making threads until one goes his way

Well congratulations OP Peterson finally won according to a 10 post thread

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you really let yourself go after TLJ, Mark

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I'm a leftist and I agree with Zizek.
pc culture is cancer and of course Trump is not a fascist, saying he is would be dishonest on so many levels.
fuck liberals
enjoy your (you)

because they're so obsessed with proclaiming a victory over peterson they don't even care who's on the other side of the debate

How on earth is Zizek so based while Peterson is so cringe?

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Because Jordan Peterson met a Marxist that he doesn't hate, and while this doesn't turn Peterson's world view on it's head and he's able to get along with Z, the real Leftists can't comprehend anything but animosity between these two fashioned champions of sociopolitical polarization and because "their" guy didn't lose the debate in their eyes, "not their" guy had to have lost decisively

It's actually a good filter for reasonability, this debate, and am surprised in my own anecdotal evidence that my Facebook feed isn't blowing up with the usual leftist prattling over something like this. Kind of gives me hope that things like #walkaway and #blexit are gaining some kind of traction and at least making people release their dogmatic grip over their reasonability

I ALREADY AM EATING FROM DE TRASH CAN

ALL DE TIME

because he's funny
based reasonable poster

i get the impression people on this site only like zizek because he goes against the grain, and everyone here is bent on doing that as soon as the opposing side gains or demonstrates popularity (peterson)

peterson is a literal pants shitting retard

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SO SNEED- AND THAT'S THE BLOODY THING ABOUT SNEED - HE REPRESENTS CHAOS, IN FACT, HE'S AN AGENT OF BASED, AND IN CONTRAST, WE HAVE MOE, WHO REPRESENTS CRINGE, ROUGHLY SPEAKING. BUT MOE, IN HIS BITTER RESENTMENT, IN HIS-HIS POSTMODERN CULTURAL MARXIST IDEOLOGY, HE TRIES TO TAME THE BASED- AND THAT'S A BAD IDEA MAN, IT'S LIKE-IT'S LIKE IF YOU TRIED TAMING FUCK, IT'S JUST GOING TO LEAVE YOU FUCKED. BUT MOE, HE TRIES ANYWAY, MOTIVATED BY A LUST FOR POWER - AND IT'S LIKE - GOD ITS SO SAD - ITS LIKE YOU'RE NOT A SNEED GUY! YOU'RE NOT A SNEED GUY, AND NO POSTMODERN RATIONALIZATION WILL CHANGE THAT. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR. THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE IS EXPLICIT ON THIS MATTER. AND SPEAKING OF TAMING FUCK - WHAT HAPPENS BY THE END OF MOE’S 'EXPERIMENT'? THE FUCK IS NOT TAMED, QUITE THE OPPOSITE, IT'S ACTUALLY FEEDING. AND THIS DEMONSTRATES EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 20TH CENTURY. AND IT'S LIKE SOLZHENITSYN WRITES IN THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO - THE BLOODY MARXISTS ATTEMPTED TO QUELL FUCK, BUT IN DOING SO THEY MERELY FEEDED IT. AND WELL ACTUALLY, THEY DID QUITE A BIT MORE. YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO BE A SNEED GUY IF YOU'RE NOT. WE TRIED THAT EXPERIMENT IN THE 20TH CENTURY, AND IT WAS A BAD IDEA MAN! AND IT. IS. NOT. A. ROUTE. YOU. WANT. TO. GO. DOWN.

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Peterson really was out of his comfort zone.

why did it take you this long to get this impression

I don't like zizek at all and barely knew of him before this debate. I don't even hate Peterson. I just hate his retarded fans that misrepresent his stances and intelligence level. Imagine if nobody knew who Oprah was and she got a PhD and I started saying she was epicurean and everyone that hates her is right wing low IQ retard because she stands up to the man or something. It would be pretty annoying right? Ya. That's what Peterson fans are.

Because the left is moving towards a class first non reactionary platform. Idpol is being weaponized by neoliberal elites. The future is now old man.

They're modern "philosophers". What did you expect?

Superior debate comin' through.
youtu.be/ptnEtmGKM2g

>the average leftist isn't a discord tranny
they support them though

I'm specifically talking about the kind of leftists who watch a 3 hour debate on a Friday night. In other words not the average leftist.

No we fucking don't.

>non reactionary
>Marxism
want to try again?

i like zizek because he talks funny and sniffs alot

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peterson vs zizek was literally the most boring thing ive ever seen. they literally agree on all fundamentals, and their disagreement is on... economics. i thought this retarded communism vs capitalism shit was settled decades ago? im sick of hearing these retarded recycled milton friedman talking points. peterson literally on another planet

so I didn't see Don Cheadle, star of mainstream capeshit, on SNL, the weekly leftist worship session, with a shirt that said 'protect trans kids?'
unless he meant protect them from pedophilic discord trannies, then he was being pretty based

>Mops the floor with JP
>Makes SJWs simultaneously seethe and kiss the ground he walks on
>*SNIFF*
>Makes /pol/tards seethe and try to defend JP even though they don't like him to begin with
>Makes JP cultists seethe or admire him in awe
>Has never had sex
>Made unironic kino
>Is a hegelo-lacanian marxist, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean
>Will never have sex
>Somehow made more poignant and powerful criticisms against marxism than the faggots like JP and /pol/tards that bitch about it all day and use it as a boogeyman strawman
/our guy/

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How in the fuck is a multi millionaire film star representative of the average leftist?

What schizo shit is this?

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I liked zizeks point that white liberals who denigrate their own “white” culture and people do so at a profit, and that profit is to reserve for themselves the universal position, positioning themselves above the perceived implications and constraints of culture, graciously soliciting others to assert their particular identities, fully embodying the lie of identity politics.

How is it not?

Zizek said Trump was a post-modernist president. And he was 100% right. Based sniffman.

they both are worms of the academic class. they were both there to shill their shit books. both are scum.

You could have just saved us both time and said you have no understanding of socioeconomic status.

it perfectly represents your average modern leftist.

>Makes SJWs simultaneously seethe and kiss the ground he walks on
Too accurate

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It's your brain on academia.

>Has never had sex

Explain?

Oh my bad I better inform all these liberlas I know that they are actually right wing because they don't do PR ops for their film careers.

I honestly have no idea what he meant by this, but it made me laugh the first time I saw it.

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that's right man, I'm really dumb. maybe you'd be nice enough to explain to me how you can be a leftist in 2019 without passing a purity test
american politics are a cult and you either fit in or you don't. soccer moms are taking their children to drag shows because they are convinced 'trans rights' is the next big movement and they want to hop on board early

>Makes /pol/tards seethe and try to defend JP even though they don't like him to begin with
Think you mean gives chapocels fantasies about how /pol/ feels

cope

>soccer moms are taking their children to drag shows

So the other 99.9% of soccer moms don't count according to you?

sorry you belong to a shallow cargo cult.

this kind of trite observation is exactly the same thing that marxists denigrate peterson fanboys for. how is that an interesting point at all? it's clean your room-tier obvious

99.9% of statistics are made up on the spot

This thread shows yet again that "left" and "right" are empty concepts that mean whatever the speaker wants them to mean at any given time.

It being obvious just makes it all the more hilarious that Trump supporters are the one crying about post modernism.

Dude you are so clever. Your sarcastic retort about being dumb is paying off so well. BTW soccer moms are taking their kids to neo nazi marches.

Imagine pol living this rent free in your head

Well it's probably not the SJWs that are applauding his victory.

What a funny thing, maybe the left and right are home to many mutually incompatible groups of people.

they're fully aware of this ime. aren't they the ones always going on about memeing him into presidency and meme magic?

what's weird is academics don't really talk about 'post modernism' anymore anyway
that shit is like 15 or 20 years behind, just like all the kind of 'topics' you'd hear about in a zizek vs peterson debate

To be fair, the SJWs are also celebrating his victory for the time being. They'll be reminded soon enough that based Zizek does not bow down to their empty and meaningless ideology either, though.

This girl is going to get sauce all over her sweater

average rightwing politician dont want nothing to do with nazis and kekistanis, average lefty and liberal are mentally unable to not embrace every group from the "opressed" stack

based "the real winners are the contestant's bank accounts!" poster

Because your entire concept of "leftism" is poltard memes about trannies

Jordan Peterson is still shook from when he read The Gulag Archipelago back in the late 70s to early 80s. Time will never heal his wounds.

>clean ur room vs cokemunist
Oh boy, truly fascinating.

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show me one single example of a local library or theater hosting a neo nazi rally. show me one single REDDIT GOLD thread on reddit supporting a neo nazi march on the front page, one example of a movie star wearing a 'support nazi kids' shirt on SNL
just one single example and I will concede the point. trans garbage is mainstream leftism and you're a fucking retard for trying to deny it

That is pretty cool, based Ziz

Is this what /leftypol/ actually believes? Every leftist with power loves trannies. Even Chapo and irony leftists do. You're a fucking tiny fraction of the left, much smaller than the alt-right.

we are literally watching zizek convert poltards into liberals in real time lmao

based zizek

Don't blame millennials, they were born stupid.
It's why they praise these schizo boomers while they rip off the dumbass millennials with their patreon donations.

Agreed

>politician

>with power

>literally from reddit

Come on guys you are making this too easy.

Your entire belief system comes from Yea Forums memes. You're an idiot.

zizek isn;t liberal though

Everytime I see these kind of people debate I always end up thinking that civilians are just not fit to have influence in governments and nations.

The entire debate felt like a Youtube Poop.

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imagine having sex

No, he's a dumbass boomer who deserves to be lynched along with Peterson.
Traitors of the west, both of them.

>can't respond
am I actually talking to THE jordan peterson, PHD?

any Contra's paypig in the house tonight?

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I didn't watch the thing, but how is this a victory for the left? If anything he BTFOd both sides.

>Every leftist with power loves trannies
So establishment leftists that would sell their own class down the river for a quick buck?

You're actually braindead. How the fuck is it permissible for the right to support someone like Trump, with the whole point being that he isn't part of the establishment and thus more closely represents how real rightists feel, but leftists aren't allowed to even suggest the same thing? Both sides feel abandoned and unrepresented by the powers that be.

please stop posting this i get sick every time

>civilians are just not fit to have influence in governments and nations.
What are you talking about retard?

I'm a leftist and he's right. No mainstream leftist politician in any western country would come out against trans people. You could ask them something as obvious as whether its okay for former men to play women's sports and they would be incapable of giving you the common sense answer.

>but how is this a victory for the left?
it isn't. we're just laughing at them celebrating like it is despite him btfo-ing both sides

I did respond. I showed 2 goal post movers and committed one ad hom.

That civilians are in general stupid, ignorant and have absolutely no idea what is good for a nation.
A civilian is often a rabid, emotional mess who would declare wars out of pure emotion.

Nothing good has come from democracy.
The place of a civilian isn't in telling people much smarter than them how to rule nations.

>NO TRUE LEFTIST
> then immediately starts talking about Donald Trump, even though it is totally irrelevant
Are you a parody?

Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHA!

Made me chuckle.

Depends on what you mean by "the left". If by "the left" you mean SJW trannies and perpetually offended faggots, then yes, he BTFOs them too. And that's why he's based.

That's a pretty big change up from saying that leftists support trans people, to now saying that they would be silent on issues pertaining to them.

>I showed 2 goal post movers and committed one ad hom.
Do you think this is debate class, you little faggot? Go suck the tranny cocks you love so much

C O P E
You got completely out-matched, my dude

Yeah. Not only that but we were originally talking about "the average leftist" and somehow it became about politicians.

I am failing to understand who you think is fit, then, if not citizens. What else is there, besides a citizen? A monarch? An oligarchy? What makes the monarch or dictator better than a citizen?

gotta go somewhere when moms new boyfriend kicks you out of the basement

nigger

this is peak dishonesty or cant just you follow what that user said to you, just for one next logical step?

Still no highlight videos? Someone needs to get on that shit. A transcription of the whole thing would be nice, too. I loved this stupid thing. Bless Zizek.

But I didn't criticize Trump like some leftist parody. I'm just saying that his support reflects a certain sentiment among right wing voters that could just as easily exist on the left.

Show us these massive groups of socially conservative leftists then.

so we can discuss something verifiable or some spook you have in your head that can't be quantified
you are truly a master of debate! ad hominem! ad absurdum! I am the Harry fucking Potter of debating on Yea Forums about faggot cocks!

Would you let someone straight ouf high school to work in a nuclear power plant?
Of course you wouldn't.
Then why do you let any person vote in something as big as how a country should be ruled?

>Then why do you let any person vote in something as big as how a country should be ruled?
because they are supposed to have a vested interest in how the country does and be informed and vote accordingly
but then we let women vote and the whole experiment has gone to shit forever and ever

I get your point: people are stupid. But you have failed to outline how anything else would be better. If you don't have any better ideas shit the fuck up. You think you're the first guy to think average people are idiots?

>Would you let someone straight ouf high school to work in a nuclear power plant?
>Then why do you let any person vote in something as big as how a country should be ruled?
Monarchies and dictatorships end up doing just that though user. Instead of mostly idiots and some smart people voting, its usually a dictator with mental problems, or a boy king who is literally retarded from inbreeding.

But the topic is being changed. Leftist politicians being quiet on trans issues isn't the same as all leftists supporting and loving trannies.

he cant, just like he cant admit that his workers revolution was absolutely neutralized by the system in exchange of a progressive ideology centered on genitals and skin color.

The complete lck of fucks given here is great.

Che Guevara famously hated fags and niggers

>just like he cant admit that his workers revolution was absolutely neutralized by the system in exchange of a progressive ideology centered on genitals and skin color
Zizek, on the other hand, happily admits this

Name one socially conservative western leftist. They don't even have to be in power, just someone who ran for office and was against trans rights.

If there's such demand, surely someone would have popped up by now?

>because they are supposed to have a vested interest in how the country does and be informed and vote accordingly
But they don't.
So how about we ensure they do have a vested interest before letting them vote?
It's absurd that the vote of someone who has spent hours researching every party has the same value as one who voted according to what someone said in a superhero movie.

based sniffman

Not supporting trans stuff isn't the same as being socially conservative.
If you want a group of leftists that are against trans people, then TERFs are the first that come to mind.

Camille Paglia basically came out and said that a rise of trans people signifies the fall of a civilization.

He seriously thinks economics is important to the typical leftist compared to social issues
get a clue, guy that thinks he is a leftist: the typical Democrat voter has never read a word of Marx but it is very, very important to them that gays can serve in the military

Because it's a debate between two leftists; who else would win?

Good start now let's try someone who hasn't been dead for 50 years.

Ok now we are getting somewhere. Yes, I would support this. Tests to see if you are eligible to vote.

Simple, cage the right to vote behind tests and trials.
The last thing we need is the kind of retarded millennial who listens to Peterson or Zizek be voting freely.

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He literally just read it the night before the debate, shit you not.
He also had at least 6 months to prepare and didn't even read a book by Zizek.
Dude is retarded.

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yeah but he also has an IQ above 100 and this user everyone is replying to has the IQ of a crusty cum sock

>TERFs

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>TERFs
yeah all dozen or so of them

SO SNEED - AND THAT'S THE BLOODY THING ABOUT SNEED - HE REPRESENTS CHUCK, IN FACT, HE'S AN AGENT OF CHUCK, AND IN CONTRAST, WE HAVE JANNY, WHO REPRESENTS NEWFAGS. BUT JANNY, IN HIS BITTER RESENTMENT, IN HIS-HIS POSTMODERN CITY SLICKER IDEOLOGY, HE TRIES TO SUCK THE CHUCK - AND THAT'S A BAD IDEA MAN, IT'S LIKE-IT'S LIKE IF YOU TRIED SUCKING CHUCK, IT'S JUST GOING TO LEAVE YOU FUCKED. BUT JANNY, HE TRIES ANYWAY, MOTIVATED BY A LUST FOR POWER - AND IT'S LIKE - GOD IT'S SO SAD - IT'S LIKE YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID! YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID, AND NO POSTMODERN RATIONALIZATION WILL CHANGE THAT. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR. THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE IS EXPLICIT ON THIS MATTER. AND SPEAKING OF SUCKING CHUCK - WHAT HAPPENS BY THE END OF JANNY'S 'EXPERIMENT'? THE CHUCK IS NOT SUCKED, QUITE THE OPPOSITE, IT'S ACTUALLY SEEDED. AND THIS DEMONSTRATES EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN S11E05. THE BLOODY FRINKIACS ATTEMPTED TO FUCK CHUCK, BUT IN DOING SO THEY MERELY FEEDED IT. AND WELL ACTUALLY, THEY DID QUITE A BIT MORE. YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO BE A MOD IF YOU'RE NOT. WE TRIED THAT EXPERIMENT ON THE OLD SIMPSON PLACE, AND IT WAS A BAD IDEA MAN! AND IT. IS. NOT. A. ROUTE. YOU. WANT. TO. GO. DOWN.

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But not supporting trans issues isn't the same as being socially conservative.
If you want examples of leftists being against trans stuff, then I've said so here A lot of older feminists see this shit as being just a poor imitation of their gender and find it offensive. These are the same feminists that were rubbing shoulders with communists in the 60s.

But the point still remains, there are plenty of leftists that are silent on trans shit because they just don't care. That's not the same as supporting them, either.

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honestly I am about to watch it and I almost am ready to become a leftist right now. the right is completely dead.

Okay, they still seem to be a pretty tiny minority though.

Plenty of alt-righters likes Paglia btw, so she's going to be labeled alt-right before long.

Kek

its not that he didnt read it. he read it. the problem is that they didn't get together beforehand and literally hash out what the crux of the debate was supposed to be about. some faggot organizer said half of it was going to be about marxism (zizek would be pro, JP would be anti) and the other half would be about happiness. well it turns out not only is zizek NOT pro marxist, they both agree on theories regarding happiness. there were a few instances where zizek made fun of peterson for incorrectly conflating post-modernism with neo-marxism but the majority of the debate was either void or on something they already agreed about. i really don't fucking get why either side is proclaiming either of them one when it wasn't even a debate to begin with? zizek was more likable because he told jokes, sure. but how did either of them get destroyed?

Sure, they're small, but they're a group that are actively opposed to trans stuff.

More groups just aren't interested in that debate and generally abstain from it all. I mean, why would a genuine Marxist really give a shit that a fraction of a percent of society desire to change their gender? It's just nonsense that, due to its freakish spectacle, has attracted attention from certain groups on the right or left.

>Haha, she got called alt-right by a bunch of trannies, that means she's no longer leftist
>SEE!? THERE'S NO LEFTISTS THAT AREN'T TRANNY LOVERS!
I don't give enough of a shit one way or the other about trannies and think that shit is not on me to decide when there's way more important shit to worry about, but you're being pretty blatant with your bullshit here.

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>Damn, that was such a fascinating debate, these are truly the philosophers and intelectuals of our time.

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Based.

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terfs are being silenced on campus, they are the closest to the alt-right that the lefty spectrum can offer

I felt really uncomfortable seeing Peterson floundering so hard. I liked that they seemed to be friendly at times and I hope Peterson takes himself less seriously in the future and actually engages with leftist ideas instead of retreating back to the bubble. I also wish he would've made a joke like Zizek wanted. I don't really like seeing so many leftists who previously dismissed Zizek as problematic and wanted to see him shut up parading him around now.

Overall, I enjoyed it and im glad there's some actual communication going on instead of neurotic screaming.

SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME TO PAY THE ALIMONY
I AIN'T THE DARKEST GUY IN MY BED
I WAS LOOKING IN DESPAIR WITH MY FINGERS IN MY HAIR
AT MY WIFE AND HER BUCK FROM MY KEK SHED

WELL

THE BILLS START COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING
STATEMENTS OVERDRAWN, CANNOT BE FORGIVEN
DIDN'T MAKE SENSE NOT TO GO INSANE
FUCKED MY SHIT UP NOW I'M IN EXTREME PAIN

TOO MUCH TO PAY
TOO MUCH IN DEBT
SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH FLEEING TO CUBA

YOU'LL FOREVER KNOW IF YOU GET HITCHED
YOU'LL ALWAYS KNOW 'CAUSE SHE'S A BITCH

HEY NOW

YOU'RE A HAS-BEEN
SHE BROKE YOU AND BETRAYED

HEY NOW

YOU'RE ALL WASHED UP
IN YOUR MISERY YOU'LL WADE

IF ALL THAT GLITTERS IS GOLD
GIVE IT TO MY WIFE
TO BE SOOOLLDDDD

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I'm just warning you, comrade. Maybe you're not as different as you think, sweaty. :)

I no longer trust any right-winger who cries about "silenced" people because I'm pretty sure Jordan Peterson is supposed to be one of these silenced voices and I can't stop hearing this motherfucker's Kermit whines.

Is there anything more fascinating than seeing millennials in the wild pretending to understand politics?
It's like watching kids play house.

And California was against gay marriage in 2008. Give it a few years to normalize and all these hypothetical leftists that might exist will be die hard trans rights supporters.

>I don't really like seeing so many leftists who previously dismissed Zizek as problematic and wanted to see him shut up parading him around now.
Don't worry. Zizek will piss all the SJWs off soon enough lmao
He's just one rant about muslims away
One month at most

>Am not a communist and am against political correctness.

Yes the right truly was BTFO by this guy.

why are chapocels celebrating? zizek literally said trump is not a fascist

What do you mean by silenced? Campus politics seem to be dominated by very large, politically vague groups. But they're still open to smaller groups forming and sharing their opinions, at least in my experience.

Come Home, Proletarian Man

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A millennial is a fascinating creature indeed.
They both have self-destructive tendencies and they also pretend to save the world.
They call themselves warriors, but they spend all day sitting on their ass in a computer.
They claim boomers ruined the world, but they don't even try to get a job.

To be a millennial is to be a rabid dog.

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>He said to call him nigger!
they've forgotten so quickly
zizek is not their guy for sure

Zizek cracks me up. In this debate he told Peterson to not start debating muslim style on him. IIRC, that's his term for citing obscure studies no one knows shit about to try to prove a point.

they will BTOF you with some lenin/stalin pic
this one is fast

Can someone explain to me why anyone would care about what these drunk boomers have to say about anything?
Who the fuck are these people?

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Zizek came out better because he came prepared and pivoted to 'im just a sniffing hegelian.' Self flagellating lefties everywhere celebrate cuz they think Peterson is the antichrist.

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>They claim boomers ruined the world
they did, but it's a very comfortable world with lots of junk to consume and porn to jerk off to
it's completely understandable why this rage and apathy can coexist

If you like browsing the retarded shit spewed here you're likely to watch the retarded shit spewed in that video with those two, lurk more faggot.

Come Home, Proletarian Man

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It's millennials, they are stupid, they are programmed to seek people to tell them what to believe in.
These two are literally-who's, and yet they are rich now because they decided to tell a bunch of autistic millennial activists what to think.

Peterson ain't an anti-christ. He's just a dumbass. As far as /pol/ adjacent figures, he's about as actually hateful and harmful as Joe Rogan, which is to say: Not at all.

It's merely fun to watch the JP cult squirm.

what about that fag with a greek lastname? he is not even that smart yet lefties have to shutdown the entire college and trun it into a urban battlefield to prevent him from talking.
the one with moldylocks

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This is really off topic now, when we're just talking about hypothetical situations.
But still, I think many leftist groups will simply be apathetic to the whole issue, the same way many don't make racial and sexual equality part of their main focus. At worst, they might have to give these issues lip service.

Gee Bill! how come your mom lets you eat two weiners? dot jaypeg

I haven't.
Any reason why I shouldn't stick to laughing at them?
Seriously, all these Zizek, Peterson, Joe Rogan dudes, who the fuck are they?
Where did they come from?
Why do they think they have any power, and why aren't people actively mocking them for thinking they are leaders of some political movement?

Because internet reactionaries have to fill the lack of validation in their lives with pointless high school debates.

One of Zizek's point in the debate was him stating that he and Peterson are merely clowns putting on a show. Peterson seemed perturbed by the idea. Yet another reason why the sniffman is based.

Pull yourself up by the bootstraps, kiddo. When I was your age I had paid for college with my part-time job and bought a house on my entry level salary. Kids these days are just lazy.

whre is the JP cult you speak about?

>being a reationary or commie is too mainstream now
what ideology is the logical conclusion of corporatism/capiatlism? what's capitalism to the 10th degree? i feel like thats the only political ideology i can adopt without feeling like im sharing the opinions of losers that spend too much time online. i don't care about bootlicking or the erosion of familial/community values/culture. all i care about is the part of the political spectrum not shared by other mouth breathers

Don't try to fight it, user

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>You're so well read! I'm amazed.
>You should read a book, then!
lmfao

Reddit, mostly.

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cringe

>I'm severely ignorant of public intellectuals
>I laugh at my own ignorance
>But don't realize what's going on
kek

it's the only marx thing he's read, he's a soỿboỿ

>Pull yourself up by the bootstraps
I am, i'm in the reserve, and the moment I get to 4 years of experience i'll be able to use some friends to get into a PMC.
I'll either die, or come out rich as fuck.
Just do me a favor and don't vote for anyone who'll declare war on anyone but muslims, muslims are easy to fight.

Not gonna go to college though, last thing i'll do is pay so they can brainwash me into some dead ideology.

Sneed accelerationism

Where the fuck do you think they should have come from?

I've seen a few posts like this and I don't get it. Do you think there's some reason that a well read person shouldn't express their opinions on certain issues?

ah yeah the historically economically inevitable eternal utopia...

So, millennials only watch these videos ironically?
Why do they donate to these people?

It was always hypothetical on your hypothesis that most leftists don't care about trans issues.

Jordan Peterson fans think the guy changed their lives because he told them to clean their rooms. He's a self-help guru. I'm sure you've heard of those before.

You actually think those two are well read?
What's wrong with you?

Zizek has always been accepted by the right, one of his books is about imploring Christians and Marxist’s to team up against new age spirituality.

Both parties are retarded. I really can't fathom why the US has one of the most idiotic political systems of the West.
You're voting for extremism no matter what, and most people still don't get representation.
Here 3 left, 4 center and 2 right parties can all govern together.

>Christians and Marxist’s to team up against new age spirituality
Nah, fuck all of them.

so yeah they support them when they're silent whenever trannies attack or create laws about making the workers' most basic common thoughts to be illegal to be expressed

if your takeaway from tranny shit is "boy those right wingers are chuds" you literlaly support corporate trannishit

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After all these years, the marxist unironically asks for help?
Lmao, sacrificing christianity is nothing if that means destroying marxism.

At this point, if you're not a a fucking third positionist, fascist or NatSoc there is no fucking help for you. Even Zizek's Hegelian statism would result in a far more "Fascistic" society than the one wanted by the disgusting Jewish leftists and left-liberals (who are reactionaries and despise populist revolts such as the yellow vests).

You know it is inevitable

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>Europe thinks they're more demmocratic because they have 5 flavours of neo-liberalism instead of two

You're a fucking moron. Unless you're in Italy or Greece.

>You're voting for extremism no matter what, and most people still don't get representation.
Both are right-wing. Hillary is by no means a leftist in any country other than America.

goddamn its perfect

Thank god I didn't grow up in the 60s and 70s.

>I am incapable of nuance, therefore everyone else must also be.

now that i think about it why did the chapo/contra antifa crowd get so obsessed with hating on peterson? he's literally just one of the many self-help e-gurus that become e-famous on youtube every year. would they even given him a moment's notice if he never came out against forced use of pronouns?