Us

>Better that than another 'wypipo bad' movie
i think they are about equal but us was confirmation to me that peele is moving in the m night shyamalan direction. its probably going off a cliff for him here soon

the first ep is free on youtube and it was so bad that it made me go back and watch good twilight zone eps

It was ok

Twist doesn't really work
SPOILERS
Why was Clone Lupita acting like she didn't know what was going on? surely she would never want to go back no matter how much her husband wanted, and she shouldn't be so confused when non-clone Lupita and the clone family start attacking them.

Also, the middle hour or so of the movie was just a pretty mediocre fight/chase sequence

also the movie seriously suffered from "this character needs to give a five minute monologue to explain whats happening to the audience"

It's a good gf movie. Make out in the back the whole time

>Why was Clone Lupita acting like she didn't know what was going on?
when the rest of her family is in a room with her you could say that she is hiding the fact from her family so they dont get weirded out but iirc the 'real' lupita starts giving a bunch of exposition to clone lupita just before they have the final fight in the tunnels but there is no reason to tell clone lupita all the exposition because clone lupita is from the tunnels. the director chooses to mislead us the entire movie so he can throw a cheap pointless twist at the end

Honestly Maybe I need to rewatch it but I was here thinking that she didn't want to go back because she'd be certain that the actual chick would end up finding out who she was. Also, Red (Adelaide) claims that she didn't have any choice in whom she got to be with when it came to her lovers, but if she was the real girl all along then was she in control of Adelaide (Red's) actions all along?

Yeah, looking at it like that, that's pretty fucking stupid. The exposition is given to us the audience but when they're alone it doesn't necessarily work.

Even if you can see it coming a mile away when she starts acting all erratic in the second act.

controlling the doppelganger was only a thing when the plot needed it to be. no consistency

>when the rest of her family is in a room with her you could say that she is hiding the fact from her family so they dont get weirded out but iirc the 'real' lupita starts giving a bunch of exposition to clone lupita just before they have the final fight in the tunnels but there is no reason to tell clone lupita all the exposition because clone lupita is from the tunnels. the director chooses to mislead us the entire movie so he can throw a cheap pointless twist at the end

Exactly, also I think both Lupitas had alone time before that.

The movie would've worked better if they didn't reveal not-Clone Lupita until the very end. Could even have her kill Clone Lupita and come out as Lupita, that'd be an interesting conundrum for the audience.

There were also no fun doppelganger antics except for that twist. I thought the kid got snatched in the beginning and that was gonna be some mid-movie tension

it's really bad.
don't waste your time just watch the original series.

well made but thematic failure
It was supposed to be Rich Vs Poor. The husband is wearing a Howard University sweater and wears glasses. While every tethered is wearing a jumpsuit. The exact one from where the term Blue Collar comes from (albeit not blue).
Get it, the UPPER class literally lives above?
And it posits that this breakdown is purely Nurture, as tethered raised above become normal. Nurture does have an effect on people, so its not a bad premise for a movie or game.
But the fundamental breakdown between rich vs poor in america is 'Married two parent stable family' vs 'single mother.' Rich have two parents, less children, and have children at a much later age. Having the tethered mirror relationships makes that theme fall completely flat.

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>there is no reason to tell clone lupita all the exposition because clone lupita is from the tunnels
The clones are mindless retards and she was just a kid, she likely didn't grasp what was happening to her.

as the movie progresses white shirt lupita gets more and more blood stains and starts to look and act more like her doppelganger so i thought peele was going to do some heavy handed metaphor about how we can sink into the worst versions of ourselves but then the epic twist shits all over that

i didn't get the class metaphor at allllll

so, what is he trying to say.... that the government creates and subjugates the lower class? that the lower class is somehow subjected to eating raw rabbits for christmas?

Makes no fucking sense

>Get it, the UPPER class literally lives above?
i reject any class struggle interpretation of this movie partly because how on the nose shallow that interpretation is. but maybe i just have too high of expectations for jordan peele

she breaks the tethered conditioning by meeting her better version face to face, incapacitating that better version, and then dragging it down into the tunnels so she can live the better version's life. i dont buy a mindless retard being able to pull that off

This. Seems like the movie was edited to save it because it was so sluggish during the middle (no suspense) but in the process the cut out some important scenes too.

Black people look like fucking aliens if they're African enough.

It isn't about class struggle in general but the differences between first world and third world. How immigrants who succeed become the oppressors or something. Idk it made sense at the time I just can't understand why real Lupita said "we're Americans"

I thought it was kind of forced, but I don't see it as a major contradiction there. They were both children when they swapped and adapted to the new environment, good or bad. The place is magical to some point anyway, they were hypnotized in there. The one that got to grow outside was treated as their real daughter. Really, you guys underestimate how much we can repress and simply forget about ourselves from childhood, you'll believe the narrative you remember. I don't think she was aware of it in anyway except until the end as we see.

Whoopi Goldberg plays an alien on TNG, and she's not wearing an alien costume

So do white people if they're white enough

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So you just imagined what the film was supposed to be about and then say it failed to be about what you thought it should be about.

I didn't even like it that much, but geez.

Remember, the way you do an entertaining theme to to take something real and 'turn it to 11.' Especially in horror or scifi.
So if people are mindless consumers who shop at malls, you make them flesh eating zombies as in 'Dawn of the Dead.' That doesn't mean you literally think consumers are undead flesh eating zombies.

He's trying to say is something like:
The poor suffer 'below' the upper class, their pain unknown to the upper classes, but if given the chance they'd be normal and successful.

And everything they have/use is a worse version of what the rich have. Raw rabbits is actually a good analogy for the massive nutritional gap between rich and poor families.

And the government doesn't subjugate them, but does quarantine them by building housing projects.

And people don't know about the tethered above. This is taking the fact that people ignore the poor, and 'turning it to 11.' Like in real life how school shootings and murders in poor areas don't even make the news.

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>I just can't understand why real Lupita said "we're Americans"
the entire uprising was modeled off a hands across america shirt so i think took it in the most literal sense in reference to that shirt. its easy to turn that phrase into justification for almost any interpretation of purpose on this film but i dont think this movie had a point

I don't know what to tell you if you didn't pick up on these basic clues. These ideas are about as common of tropes as giving the evil twin a goatee.
These clues are about as 'on the nose' as it gets.
Depicting the 'under class' as jumpsuit wearing and living underground has been a common film trope since Metropolis in 1927.

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>nigs killing nigs
too real for me

I REALLY LOVE BLACK PEOPLE Yea Forums
I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE SO MUCH, I WANNA MARRY A BLACK GIRL AND HAVE BLACK BABIES

I FUCKING LOVE BLACK PEOPLE, I WANNA BE BLACK,

FUCK RACIST AND FUCK TRUMP

Blacks are not horror worthy

ikr? Even as a black person I always feel like I'd be going into a cringe fest if I were to watch any horror movie with a black-led class. It just doesn't feel right for some reason.

"Cues" can take you to interpret anyway you like. If you are argument is that the cues failed to convey what you expected, then perhaps they weren't really cues to what you thought they were, or, at least, they are not central or as important.

Not him but certain things I could get, like the rabbits and such. I got the hands across america thing, that's something from the true gal's childhood so she'd make a statement for that.

But once again, the exposition isn't needed when they're alone. If it was better fit to notion someone wanting revenge then I could see it but then again? Thinking about it now, I dunno

not that user but i'd say its just disappointing that peele didnt provide a fresh take on these class themes

How is it well made? The plot had more holes than a swiss cheese

i meant well made in the visual sense

Ultimately it's garbage and I loved Get Out.

Do you need someone to tell you the difference between 'made' and 'written'?

This perfectly sums the flick.

>I have terrible taste and hated it
Good to know

Opening and opening credits scenes are kino the rest is cringe