Post kinos where psuedo intellectual charlatans get publicly embarrassed

Peterson doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, he admits he's never read theory, he only read 1 Marx book, I doubt he even knew who Hegel or Engles are, and he uses words and descriptors that's based on his own personal definitions, nothing based on common usage, that's the entire problem with his type and his followers. The types of people he's likely bitching about are left liberals, and radical liberals, not leftists, yet alone Marxists. Post-Modernist is a catch-all term used by the right to pigeonhole anyone left of themselves, it doesn't mean anything. Attack ideologies, attack positions, attack opinions, broad brushed labels with vague definitions and nebulous meanings are useless.

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When these two retards are your average "political philosophers" it's clear why activists think they are saving the world by discussing whether superhero movies and videogames need more or less black people in them.

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ive always seen people post him and memes but never really read any of his stuff or heard him speak. at the beginning of the debate, literally what the fuck is he doing? he sounds like me when i get too high and rant and ramble about random philosophical topics, it's all surface level observations and barely related tangents. is he a professional?

Who are these people?

Postmodernist theorizing was developed through writing advanced by Marxist and post-Marxist think though... in fact much of the commentary on a death of narratives is lamenting this, since it spells the failure of a Marxian Historical narrative. Pretending to overlook this point is just straight up gaslighting to try to pretend they think Peterson doesn't know the actual meaning of postmodernism to discredit him as a thinker. I'm not saying I'm a big Peterson follower or anything but the fact people resort to such dishonest arguments shows how little they have to criticize themselves.

Zizek was right to ask Peterson to clarify his associating Marxism with postmodern theory, but Petetson's answer was actually the correct answer... that poststructuralist thinkers were indeed Marxists who shifted Marxism's oppression logic to culture and identity, which Zizek agreed with. Of course you're pretending to overlook that though.

>he only read 1 Marx book

Is worse than that.The communist manifesto is not even a book, that's that level of that pseudo-intellectual.

*thinkers

Peterson AND Zizek are absolute brainlets with retarded ideologies.

This entire debate was a joke.

Man, it such a shame Youtube Poops aren't that popular, they could make some quality stuff from these retards.

What fucking idiot audience cheers this much for a seminar..? Have they never been to one before? It's not a presidential election

Americans are fucking stupid, jesus christ... You can even see how both Zizek and Peterson is mocking them for their ignorance and stupidity for never even being close to an academic world or discussion

Zizek

An actual academic, professional philosopher

Peterson

Charlatan who writes self-help books to appeal to the insecure males who browse /r/TheDonald , makes sure to mention the holocaust and jooz in the intros of all his books and youtube talks even when it has nothing to do with the topic.

What do toilets have to do with marxism

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mean to

Oh sure, I suppose you've read Marx extensively? Sure. You're resorting to the "he doesn't even really understand it!" bluff bevause you have no actual argument.

Zizek btw actually AGREED with Peterson's criticisms of Marx, but I'm sure you're the REAL expert.

So basically, two drunk retards who have been pushed for no reason to talk about utter non-sense and dead ideologies?
Why do people pay attention to what these people have to say about anything?
They are not politicians, they have no power, who the fuck cares?

Peterson automatically wins because I can understand him

DONT TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR RACE GOY
WAIT YOU'RE BLACK? THAN YO WUZ KANGZ
NO ANCESTRAL PRIDE FOR WHITES
COLORED ONLY
BLACK PRIDE
JEWISH PRIDE
MUSLIM PRIDE
BUT NO WHITE PRIDE

have sex

They both flush away shit

god you are salty

Look at this retard who has no idea what's happening in this thread

amerimutts clap in lectures and movie theaters too. they even clap while watching movies all by themselves

I have it regularly, since I'm educated and spent a good few years in university. That's the whole point

Yeah Peterson just rambles on and goes off on tangents and never even draws conclusions. He's a fucking meme. All of his talks are like it. He's obviously an intelligent man but he's actually terrible at debating clearly has difficulty putting his thoughts into words; he's been coasting on the fact that he's only engaged with insecure morons up until this point. Literally all it would take to destroy him in an argument would be to stay calm and constantly pressure him for yes or no answers, or to remind him that the 15 minute dialogue he just had was completely unrelated to your point/question and force him to directly address it. He'd crumble.

Sorry for mentioning the agenda of your alt-right idol

sure you do

look at this cuck faggot who havent seen juden peterstein tweets about racial/ancestral pride

>What fucking idiot audience cheers this much for a seminar
It's not a seminar. It's a fucking wwe for pseudo intellectuals

Real intellectual, noam chomsky, said that their thinking never go "beyond the level of something you can explain in five minutes to a twelve-year-old". Both of them are embarissing disinfo shills.

*sniffs*
*wipes nose*
>everyone should earn ration cards for their needs and not make any money. Standing in line for meat rations is what true happiness is
*sniffs*

lol are u from buzzfeed?
show me 1 video of jp saying hes part of the alt right

Peterson also believes in visions, spirits and that ancient Chinese knew about DNA.

Nah the fundamentals of a Marxist world view isn't "question everything", it's that the history of the world is guided and lead by economic interests and not ideas/politics etc. Basically if you want to understand why the world looks like it does today, look at the economic history because the history of ideas and politics is less important.

>this thread
LMAO, PEOPLE ACTUALLY FOLLOW THESE RETARDS INSTEAD OF JUST LAUGHING AT THEM

How much do you have to fail in life to pay attention to what these useless boomers have to say about anything?

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>I want to superior to both sides even though I have no idea what's going on

Yes, you are a bunch of stupid millennial "idealists" who actually, unironically follow the ramblings of insane boomers about ideologies that exist only in the fantasy of basement dwellers.

>i have no idea what they are saying so I will just shitpost and call them boomers

He sucks Jew dick just like the alt-right does.

sure thing memespoutting zoomer
you convinced me with your laughs and casual swearing

Just like I thought, no idea what's going on

Zizek just calls himself communist to shock people. He is basically just an old fashioned conservative

The only winners are the ones who didn't saw the debate.

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What value could discussing pointless shit like marxism have?
Who the fuck cares?
Who are even these people, and what kind of credentials they have to speak about their schizo conspiracies? Some useless american college degree?

I liked it, thought it would be much worse. Zizek was playing on the public and went easy on Peterson, the latter's introduction was abysmal, but he more or less managed to adapt and they found some common points in the end. Zizek's businesslike composure impressed me the most, he came, he saw, he won.

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Zoomers will be a vastly superior generation than millennials if they don't waste their time with political trash like this.
I mean, look at millennials, 10 years of this culture "war" and nothing has been achieved.

Jordan "Who is Hegel" Peterson
Now that debate was cringe and humiliating for Peterson

>about ideologies that exist only in the fantasy of basement dwellers.
capitalism and communism? how old are you?
are u a woman?

Reminder to report all these shill threads.
Don't let these con men sell their self-help books in here.

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it would have been good if they had actual economists talk about capitalism vs communism, but economists wouldnt really consider communism as an actual workable system, unless Richard Wolf was there.

nice ad hominem faggot, I've read Capital at least not just the Mainfesto, and I'm working on other theorists not just the classics. But this isn't about me is it? This is about Peterson, a person who's job is to be well read on the fucking topic he's arguing against, maybe if you used your fucking brain you'd realize that instead of attacking random people on the internet who don't suck your filler dad's pseudo intellect dick.

>Post modernist theorizing was developed through writing advanced by Marxist and POST MARXIST thinkers
>Post structuralist thinkers were indeed marxist
Post structuralism is only one part of what can be called 'post modern theory'
Petersons central argument is that 'post modernism' as WHOLE is redisguised marxism, that is absolutely incorrect. He assumes that 'the oppression narrative' is an aspect of all post modern thought, and its not. The ONLY cohesive features of post modernist theory (a huge umbrella term) is that it developed as a response to Modernist theory, and questions grand narratives. Thats it. Within that, you find all sorts of different and sometimes opposing theories, yet Peterson lumps them all together. I have never heard him get into the actual theories, what people like Foucault and Derrida were actually saying.

go back to fortnight zoomer

What's the point of discussing communism?
It's dead.

Economics is a pseudoscience, it's barely empirical

>psuedo intellectual
Better one of them than someone who can’t even spell a basic, two-syllable word.

Go back to twitter to pretend you are saving the world by discussing how many niggers there are in the latest Avengers movie, millennial.

Exactly, Pewdiepie's review of the debate is everything a normal, real man needs.

Look at this fucking fanboy and laugh

This is kind of obvious though. What is economically beneficial is obviously more compelling than some "idea."

>two-syllable word.
t. retard

>zizek isnt a charlatan

lol

>Zoomers will be a vastly superior generation than millennials if they don't waste their time with political trash

yeah politics are dumb, stay away from it, its boring zzzzz let the old people take care of that uncool shit *flosses away

When the fuck did Peterson become an expert on capitalism/communism? Did he forget he's a clinical psychologist? Fucking arrogance.

Kerala has the most toilet use per capita in India because it was Marxist. Socialism stops people shitting in the streets.

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How so?
I agree, only one economist actually entertains the idea of communism and he prolly does it to sell books

Why the fuck would I watch anything regarding this debate?
Who the hell are these people?
Why are they talking about dead ideologies?

Debates are useful when there's politicians, not random people with no power or influence.

did he do this?

Peterson got btfo by a slurring hobo entirely because the hobo had read the books Peterson was pretending to have read.

>dead ideologies
>capitalism
fucking clueless

>makes sure to mention the holocaust and jooz in the intros of all his books and youtube talks even when it has nothing to do with the topic.
He uses Soviet Russia's gulags, the holocaust and other events in history to illustrate points.

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I don't get it, Zizek was calling out social justice warriors but I thought he was a leftist. was he playing devils advocate?

I don't think exposing patreonson for being a retarded charlatan is shilling

Wow, Im sure you really know what your talking about

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Be that as it may, the fiercest opponents of postmodernism were still the Marxists who did not jump the ship of poststructuralism like Zizek himself of Fredric Jameson and they have opposed postmodernism on a Marxist basis specifically. To imply that postmodernism is the natural progression of Marxist theory since postmodernists were applying the 'class struggle' rhetoric to culture and identity is dishonest because even in Marx's time that idea was ridiculed.

Just because postmodernist thinkers favoured Marxist thought initially and then began singing the chorus of 'death to the metanarratives' does not make them "Postmodern Neo-Marxist" or whatever the hell chuds are willing to make up for them. If anything, it shows that they have abandoned and betrayed Marxisim for something as wack as postmodernism. Just as postmodernist principles are against those of Marxism, Marxism is opposed to postmodernism just as well.

Petersons criticisms of marx were childish and pointed to a failure of understanding (which is why he critiqued the manifesto and not any of his more serious work like capital, which zizek points out halfway through).

For example his entire first statement was a complete mischaracterisation of capitalist production, how classes are concieved, how exploitation happens, and what marx meant by wages and profit.
When Zizek "agreed" with Peterson it was in a very sarcastic manner, and in no way in the same way that Peterson sees it.

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capitalism invented the toilet
if india actually had a free market, they would have proper hygiene

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I mean, why care?
Millennials spent 10 years caring and you have done absolutely nothing but fill Hollywood with propaganda movies.

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cope

These two con-men who make a living out of selling books shouldn't even be here.
They are businessmen, they don't care about ideologies, they don't even have anything of value to say.
It's only to promote their trash.

And why haven't mods deletes this thread already?

I'm an economist

>seething
>begs for mods

>Zizek
>con man
t. Reddit

It is a death ideology so calling it dead isn't entirely wrong

Marxist theory is still incredibly relevant to discuss and use as an analytical tool

What do you mean?
I'm RIGHT.
Your countries have been nothing but literal shitholes.

>millennial activism has become so monetized by businesses that people now make a living out of pretending to know about politics
Fascinating.

Give me your name then. Ill look up your work/

>An actual academic, professional philosopher
So another charlatan

but hindi people WANT to shit on the street
if they wanted to shit on toillets they would buy toillets like the rest of us, even poor people from other countries have toillets
the majority of streetshitters have phones
they are not hobos
the marxists shouldnt spend the taxpayer´s money on useless stuff that people dont even want,

I don't think writing thousand-page tomes on Hegel is something you do to scam people for a quick buck.

He is leftist and he is opposing Political Correctness. When you realise what conservative media calls 'leftist' in the US are actually milder right-wingers who just opt in for identity politics but are actually pretty conservative themselves, you begin to see the true 'left' is not the boogeyman you were made to fear.

>supply and demand isn't empirical

All of your leftist friends are on reddit.
Go back to /r/chapo

>Steals memes from r/chapotraphouse

I do think so.
But i'm amazed that millennials are this easy to manipulate.
I wonder how easy it would be to get all these retards to pay me on patreon for spouting political buzzwords on Youtube.

Supply and demand isn't empirical, considering the typical curve you're thinking of only applies in a perfectly competitive market. Also telling that supply and demand is the only economic concept you know

>he unironically knows subreddits by name
These are the people who visit these threads.
Where are the mods to send the activist scum back into the garbage bin?

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How many syllables does ‘pseudo’ contain then, you future Pulitzer winner?

>they aren't true leftists because they aren't maoists
kill yourself
the republican party is the most cucked left wing faggots in history
they support the following:
>social security
>medicare
>massive government spending
>massive intervention(Regulations)
>central banking
>keynesian economics
>anti-segregation
>anti-white policies

Marx was a libertarian.
No one could ever prove me wrong on this

nice literal propaganda you fucking brainlet

Cringe.

Look at all these communists crawling out of the woods, amazin

Who the fuck are these people and why should I care about them?

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>doesn't have any arguments

>perfectly competitive market
what does this even fucking mean?
Perfect competition is a myth.
Supply and demand IS empirical.

If you implement price controls shortages WILL happen.

>Also telling that supply and demand is the only economic concept you know
It's the biggest and most important one.

>the earth is flat
>go ahead, prove me wrong, Ill wait

Curious how Peterson avoid certain historical events when people ask him about them. For someone witch such interest in talking about history he sure avoids topics that may not please the (((benefactors))) he always praises in the prefaces of all his propaganda.

youtube.com/watch?v=lAqcge10Mfc

7, because it's one word

I'm not here to teach you macro 101 which you clearly failed

Yeah, but that's how leftism works.
They create labels and then pretend those labels never existed. That way your ideology can never be criticized.

Boomers who are slightly smarter than millennials and have managed to make a living out of talking basic politics and making them think they are smart for listening to them.
So they donate to their patreon.

Hi /r/chapotraphouse
Why are you redditors so obvious?

What propaganda?
I'm right

Neither do bootlicking marxists.

>republicans
>leftwing

this is some grade A ideology

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economics is fundamental to civilization since the Sumerians. it just means assigning numbers to demand.

the study of economics has a lot of pseudoscience and pop philosophers telling rich people/governments what they want to hear, that's true.

Sneed's Feed and Seed (Formerly Chuck's)

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>literally any critiscism is levied against Marxism
>"UGH, U JUST DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAND IT. GAWD, MOM, GET OFF MY CASE."

Literally every fucking time with Commiecucks.

They always claim their opposition "doesn't understand Marxism". Apparently nobody does or ever did. Not even Marx.

>I don't believe in supply and demand but I know econ 101 bro

>YOU'RE THE ONE BRAINWASHED BY IDEOLOGY, NOT ME
Fucking COPE
Imagine actually being dumb enough to want the state to completely control your life.
Just kill yourself.

Yeah and megacorps want to dumb toxic waste in your local water supply, I think we should let them do that too because socialism is bad.

Yes because it's the mods who should take all you idealist subhumans and kick you out of here.
Although ideally, you would be removed from real life too.
Civilians have no place in politics.

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>all leftists are SJWs
My dude, you have a very simplistic view of the world. You should try going out and talking to people
Supply and Demand is an abstract theoretical concept utilized to organize and explain empirical data. It doesn't exist as a thing in the world anymore than 'the market' does

>Homo economicus is empirical

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>Charlatan who writes self-help books to appeal to the insecure males who browse /r/TheDonald

I can smell your hair-dye.

yeah kill yourself!

This guy is seething

Lenin, an ancap: Capitalism is "progressive," "condition of abolishing dependence"

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Marxism is pretty easy to understand.
Commies run with their tails between their legs when actually confronted with arguments.

The government controls the water supply in the first place stupid.
If this were a free market there would be massive competition for water.
Socialism and government control of the economy fails again.

>You should try going out and talking to people
Civilians have nothing of value to say about politics.

Nice strawman you fucking idiot, we are talking about post modernism. Read a SINGLE book in your life

sorry you're illiterate, maybe you should try reading books instead of eating them

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This is an obvious bait but I'll answer anyway: Anything short of workers owning the means of the production cannot be considered leftist by any margin. I can live with Keynesian economics, not because it is a leftist policy but because it is still smarter than neoliberalism. But that does not make it a left-wing policy. This applies to every other thing there as well.

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capitalism is not an ideology.

>boomers
Sorry, but i'm not stupid enough to listen to these creatures.
Only thing they deserve is a bullet in the head.

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Where's the lie?

>There are people in this thread who haven't even read a book in the last year and think their opinion in relevant and insightful

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>neoliberalism

layman here, can you define neoliberalism?

>nice literal propaganda you fucking brainlet

The flushing toilet was provably invented by a Western Capitalist. You're literally denying facts.

Also,
>Commiecucks talking about "historical revisionism"
>StalinCensoredPhotoComparison.png
lel

>the us news media is inexplicably hostile towards Russia
>inexplicably
Ask Ukrainians what might be inexplicable about it. Or a hospital in Aleppo. Or Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.

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Capitalism was a necessary and inevitable step in leading to communism. This is central to Marxist theory.

>hey millennials, how about you listen to these people from the generation that ruined everything talk about politics?
>millennials actually eat it up

And you wonder why you are mocked even more than boomers.

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Homo economicus is a dumb strawman argument, nobody ever said man was perfectly rational.
Marxism is pseudoscience.
You people want to be enslaved and make sure everyone else is enslaved along with you, this is why people want you dead.

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This is a good troll, I almost fell for it

Nah, Marx himself was always libertarian, basically invented it, inspired by classical liberal econ to create pro-capitalist ideology

>t. Hohol
You're gonna get driven into the Dniepr faggot

>the manifesto
>no a piece of "serious work" for Marx

Fucking what?

>dude le anime girls
Ah, the power of modern activists.
Thank god you have no influence in the world.

sorry I want to build a world that has a modicum of compassion for people rather than one where people rot in the streets and old folks get chucked into the sewer when they can't work anymore. If you want some dystopian hellscape like Snow Crash, you might be a sociopathic piece of shit.

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I hate theses pseuds. As if they solve real problems.

>U MAD

The left literally cannot meme.
Marxists don't believe in evolution and they actually think all human action is the result of economic forces.
Embarrassing.

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neoclassical economics relies on the assumption of hyper-rational behaviour

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>t. learnt economics from Ayn Rand

>Yea Forums talking about ideology and philosophy
Now that's cringe.
t. Yea Forums

What the fuck are you going to "build" you stupid millennial?
All your activism relies on internet shitposts, the last 10 years have proven how fucking useless you all are.
You haven't achieved anything at all.

>angry butthurt boomer whining about the youngins

I wish what you said was true.
Tragically there are brainwashed millennials that unironically want to bring it back.
They were literally waving Soviet flags around at marches for Bernie.

The insufferable fag that makes every peterson thread on this website must have had this date circled and starred on his calendar. God I hope he dies.

what an NPC

Neoliberalism is a made up leftist buzzword.
>Anything short of workers owning the means of the production cannot be considered leftist by any margin.
That's like your opinion man.
We currently live under a neo-keynesian world order controlled by central banks.
You should love the current world.

>le read a book
Why don't you read criticisms of your bootlicking ideology?

SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME TO PAY THE ALIMONY
I AIN'T THE DARKEST GUY IN MY BED
I WAS LOOKING IN DESPAIR WITH MY FINGERS IN MY HAIR
AT MY WIFE AND HER BUCK FROM MY KEK SHED

WELL

THE BILLS START COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING
STATEMENTS OVERDRAWN, CANNOT BE FORGIVEN
DIDN'T MAKE SENSE NOT TO GO INSANE
FUCKED MY SHIT UP NOW I'M IN EXTREME PAIN

TOO MUCH TO PAY
TOO MUCH IN DEBT
SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH FLEEING TO CUBA

YOU'LL FOREVER KNOW IF YOU GET HITCHED
YOU'LL ALWAYS KNOW 'CAUSE SHE'S A BITCH

HEY NOW

YOU'RE A HAS-BEEN
SHE BROKE YOU AND BETRAYED

HEY NOW

YOU'RE ALL WASHED UP
IN YOUR MISERY YOU'LL WADE

IF ALL THAT GLITTERS IS GOLD
GIVE IT TO MY WIFE
TO BE SOOOLLDDDD

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>can't argue any points brought up
Wow, not even an attempt. What are you so afraid of? Are you actually Russian or are you rushing to their defense just as a scapegoat to fight jews? Is the thought that Russia earned all this scorn such a foreign concept to you?

you sound really old or really young, either way you're an idiot

Capitalism isn't an "ideology" in and of itself, nor is it dead in any capacity.

>dae le freedumbs xD le helicopter ride
Ancaps are literally the worst posters in existence, proven once again

While the manifesto is a monumental work, it isn't meant to be read and studied in the same way that Capital or Grundrisse were, which is why its called a manifesto in the first place.

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>Communist
>not a con man

They're all shysters by definition.

Timelink, please?

Because socialism only works by destroying culture and religion. Which are the 2 reasosns for Indians not using toilets.

>sorry I want to build a world that has a modicum of compassion for people
Then you should support a free market with no central bank.
Living standards for workers increase as economic production increases.

>where people rot in the streets
This is literally socialism, or it's the current central bank dominated world.

No it doesn't, this strawman is really old.

AHAHAHAHAHA
Leftypol thinks libertarians give a shit about that dumb kike.
They don't even know who mises and rothbard are.

Do tell, what has your activism achieved?
What have the past 10 years been about?
Oh, that's right, about having superhero movies with more blacks and women.

That's all you have done.
You are now aging, almost in your 30s, and you think you still are going to do anything of value?

Millennial activism is all about mocking the other side, it's not building. If anything, it's about burning doing things for the sake of it.

>ITT: seething marxists and communists coming out of the Yea Forums and /his/ woodwork because nobody with half a brain takes their meme ideology seriously

>you see my Overton Box is so far Left that there are no real "Leftists" out there but me. actual leftists are too far right for me

Every fucking time.

TWO YEARS YOU MOTHERFUCKING AUTISTIC FUCKING SNEEDPOSTING REDDITORS
FOR TWO YEARS THIS STUPID PIECE OF SHIT MEME HAS BEEN POSTED 24/7, ONLY THIS SITE CAN BE THIS AUTISTIC. I HOPE THE FUCKING MODS PERMABAN ALL OF YOU FAGGOTS, GO MAKE YOUR OWN STUPID BOARD AND CALL IT 'LE EPIC FEED AND SEED BOARD'. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST RETARDED THING IVE EVER SEEN ON THE INTERNET, I ACTUALLY FEEL SAD FOR YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE SO AUTISTIC THAT YOU POST THIS THINKING THAT YOU'RE FUNNY, 'LOLO LOOK AT ME IM LE SNEED XDDDD FOR THE WIN EPIC MAYMAY' Yea Forums IS A FUCKING SHITHOLE IM SICK OF YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS POSTING THIS STUPID ASS MEME 24/7 FUCK OFF U FUCKING FAGGOTS STOP POSTING THAT STUPID FARMERS AND THE FUCKING STORE, 2 YEARS, 2 FUCKING YEARS POSTING THE SAME SHIT, NOT EVERY WEEK BUT EVERY HOUR, EVERY HOUR THERE'S A SNEED THREAD, ON EVERY BOARD OF Yea Forums, U FUCKING AUTISTS THIS BOARD IS MORE AUTISTIC THAN ALL THE OTHER BOARDS COMBINED, THE SIMPSONS SUCKS DICK AND SO DOES YOUR WORTHLESS LITTLE BOARD, I BET YOUR DICKLETS START TINGLING WHEN YOU POST SOMETHING ABOUT SNEED, ISN'T THAT RIGHT FAGGOTS? I BET THAT YOU GET SOME SEXUAL STIMULATION FROM UPLOADING A PICTURE OF SNEED TO YOUR BOARD HUH? I BET THAT YOU MASTURBATE TO THE THOUGHT OF GETTING FUCKED AND SUCKED BY THE ASS OF FARMER 1 AND 2. IT'S PROBABLY TRUE, YOU'RE ALL FAGGOTS AND WANT SNEED'S DICK. OH LOOK ITS TIME TO REPOST UR STUPID SNEED THREAD, GO AHEAD AND CLICK THE BUTTON WITH YOUR GREASY NECKBEARD FINGERS. I BET YOU WEAR FEDORAS AND TRENCHCOATS TOO. STUPID ASS FAGGOTS, THIS FORCED MEME IS NOTHING MORE THAN SHIT, TRYHARD FEDORA NECKBEARDS ATTEMPT AT BEING ORIGINAL. YOUR "OC" IS PATHETIC, JUST SOME SHITTY PAINT EDITS OF THE SAME PIC OVER AND OVER. WHAT A BUNCH OF TALENTLESS FAGGOTS, GO CHEW ON YOUR MOUNTAIN DEW AND YOUR DORITOS. IM DONE ARGUING WITH YOU FAGGOTS, GO CHECK YOUR STUPID DUBS AND RE-WATCH E-I-E-I FOR THE 50TH TIME WHILE YOU MANCHILDREN KEEP REPOSTING THIS UNFUNNY CRAP EVERY SINGLE HOUR

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lmfao

>stop telling me you're going to kill me
Pinochet literally did nothing wrong and it really upsets you.

Laughing at the angry political fags itt

>people only hate communism/socialism due to brainwashing

Fucking lol.

Its a propaganda pamphlet for the unwashed prole masses, not a serious work

Someone give me the timelink for the highlights where the disgusting snivelling Zizek exposes the retard Peterson. I can't watch the whole 3 hours.

It's the future.
Those who are in denial will eventually perish.

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Imagine actually being a communist.

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"Neoliberalism" is what leftist moon-howlers call any leftist political belief that isn't Far Left ENOUGH.

On one side...

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Reminder that this is the average millennial activist.

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>Someone give me the timelink for the highlights where the disgusting snivelling Zizek exposes the retard Peterson
He doesn't.
They're both retarded though.

It is the modified contemporary form of liberalism (from Adam Smith) that is the basic economic model for the 90% of the world. It functions under the premise of laissez-faire, as in everything's fair when it comes to market. Neoliberalism is basically about governments not having any say at all on the market, no regulations, no unions, no market interventions, no monopoly prevention etc. Free market but it is absolutely free. Neoliberalists at the time (starting from the 80s) claimed such an economic model would be an improvement over a Keynesian model of economics, which is still free market but with some government regulations to make sure workers are not suffering. With the rise of the neoliberal economic model in the world and the fall of the Soviet Union, it is declared to be the optimum model of how an economy should run: the less government gets in the way, the better.

Except it is already proven to be wrong by the crash of 2008 crisis. The champions of Neoliberal thought were cucked and still choose to not admit that the invisible hand of the market just shoved its fingers into its own ass and begged the government and taxpayers to bail them out. Current projections show that such a trend will continue and neoliberalism is not a solid, sustainable economic model and needs the government to bail out the big banks and corporations every few years or so because they cannot manage themselves without regulation.

I said I would still favour Keynesian model over it because even tho it is capitalistic still, it is at least smart enough to know what is sustainable and not. Neoliberalism is just full of greed and fueled by propaganda and you see that from how wage-slaves of Yea Forums still shill over it.

Nice reddit meme from 2015 dude. The right is getting better at comedy and it is scaring the left, or something.

>twitter.com/HOSTAGEKlLLER/status/1119367322379202562
Holy kek

I'm a hardcore fan of TDKR, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in an airfield where I would often hang with Smee and help CIA with the flight plan, but one day as I was talking to CIA, we went to my apartment for a private talk. He immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave him a confused look and he continued, "We understand that you live elsewhere and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How... How did you know?" He then smirked and said "Because we've been watching you, big guy!"

This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. He then said, "I talked with the Agent C and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for the Central Intelligence Agency, you just have to do... one thing". He then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave him some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" He then said "C said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the
most painless way?..." He smirked again, "Suicide will require pain but...if you want it quick... Get a hired gun and a nice shot to the head works."

I then agreed and he gave me a briefcase, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and I hired a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.

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MEANWHILE...

OH NO NO NO NO

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#donald /pol/tards use neoliberal as a bogeyman too, which is why I asked. of course they only do because it has the word "liberal" in it. your assessment of the current situation sounds legit, but if the banks had total control I think Al Gore would have gotten his carbon credit bs off the ground as in the long run global warming is going to fuck us no matter what economic/political ideology is in charge.

Why do marxists enjoy licking boots so much?
Why do they enjoy being poor and enslaved?

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>That's like your opinion man.

That's not my opinion, that's from Marx himself you dumbo.

>baseless ad-homs instead of counter-arguments

Yep. That's what I expected.

I don't understand something about this debate. Why don't boomers just kill themselves?

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>No it doesn't, this strawman is really old.
modern neoclassical micro foundations rely on individual agents maximizing expected utility and profit.
youtube.com/watch?v=a1ZGQRgxHp8

>Show me the Marxists!
Peterson was on the verge of tears.

>it's a bad meme REEEEEEEE stop telling me you're going to kill me and my comrades
lmao

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Give me the timelink for this exchange: Or this one:

The whole statement.
It's literally a canned stereotypical canard used by SJW's that are, for reasons I can only semi-understand, triggered by Jordan Peterson's existence.

he's right, though. the US Democrats are more right-wing than the British Conservatives by a substantial margin, for example.

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haha it's hard user

You were called out on not understanding the basic thing we were discussing, post modernism. Cope more retard

It's Peterson on fault for trying to act like something more than he is.

Which ideology can Chinese food defeat?

This is how you think when you fall into the spiral of watching 'reee sjws are ruining the world' videos and start getting your talking points from Youtube chuds. Imagine your ideology being dictated by an algorithm lol.

Holy fuck. Why do leftists keep proving "Left can't meme" correct?
This is fucking pathetic.

Imagine being SNEED in that FEED and having to be all like "damn, CHUCK, you FUCK AND SUCK, all FORMERLY with your tight FEED and horrific androgynous CHUCK THE SUCK. I would totally SNEED with you, both my FEED and the real SEED." when all he really wants to do is FEED another CHUCK in his SEEDING room. Like seriously imagine having to be SNEED and not only sit in that chair while CHUCK flaunts his FORMERLY SEED FEED in front of you, the favorable SEED barely concealing his FEED and FORMERLY SUCK, and just sit there, FEED after FEED, SEED after SEED, while he perfected that SNEED. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous FORMER visage but his FUCK AND SUCK as everyone on set tells him he's FORMERLY CHUCK and DAMN, CHUCK FUCK AND SUCKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the SNEED who have to FEED AND SEED. You've been FUCKING nothing but a healthy diet of CHUCKS and SUCKS and later alleged FEED AND SEED for your ENTIRE SNEED coming straight out of the FEED AND SEED. You've never even seen anything this FORMERLY CHUCK before, and now you swear you can taste the FEED that's SUCKING on his dimpled FEED as he FUCKS AND SUCKS to writhe it suggestively at you, FORMERLY assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get FEED AND SEED there and revel in his "FORMER (for that is what he calls himself)" SUCK AND FUCK, the SUCK he worked so hard for with FUCK in the previous SNEED. And then the SEED calls for another FUCK, and you know you could FEED AND SEED in this room before the studio CHUCK could FUCK, but you sit there and SEED, because you're fucking SNEED. You're not going to lose your future FEED AND SEED over CHUCK. Just FEED AND SEED. Hide your face and SEED..

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Who cares what marx said?
We were arguing over our subjective interpretation of the word "leftist".

>some youtube video
Okay bro.
mises.org/wire/homo-economicus-straw-man

Imagine being a millennial activist and paying attention to what schizo boomers like this have to say about things they clearly do not understand.

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>Youtube "debates"
Do people really take this seriously?

Skip to 1:16. Paterson's opening statement is shitty and completely irrelevant to the rest of the debate(or talk rather). He had some decent moments after that though.

So what I'm getting from this thread is that Marxism is good and we should all support Marxism. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Next up, Slavoj Zizek debates Mystery, only on Joe Rogan Experience

>durrrrrrr, shut up boomers
>literally everyone born within a nebulously-defined age-category has their opinions automatically invalidated

You sound like a fucking brainlet.
How about actually analyzing their arguments and refuting the ones you don't agree with?

>Fucking what?

Is propaganda Marx wrote for the masses. Not a serious academic work. How hard is that to understand?

If you call yourself an academic and your objective is to CRITICIZE THE IDEAS of an author. You don't read the political pamphlet he wrote, you read his fucking book where the actual arguments are.

That's how fucking pathetic Peterson is.

Millennials are a generation of failed manchildren.
In order to make themselves feel better, they call two drunk boomers trying to stay on their feet and speaking utter non-sense "debates", just like they call their company wars a "culture war".

Millennials are a joke.

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>>literally any critiscism is levied against Marxism
There are good criticisms against Marxism, you're probably just making bad ones. As in, "Soviet Union, enough said" type counterarguments.

Yes, slavery, poverty, central planning is good and it clearly worked every time it was tried in human history.

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WHERE'S THE GOD DAMN HIGHLIGHTS VIDEO? I'M NOT WATCHING 3 HOURS OF THIS GOD DAMN MESS. I JUST WANT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF ZIZEK CLOWNING ON THIS MOTHERFUCKER.

SOMEONE GIVE ME A TIMELINK OR SOMETHING!

>dae le capitalist pigs xD le mass-starvation and government seizure of property!!1!
Leftists are literally the worst posters in existence, proven once again

Mises is Austrian, not neoclassical.

Its 2:25

Why the fuck would I listen to these people?
Who the fuck are they and why do people pay attention to what two people they grabbed randomly on the street have to say about politics?
They don't have power either, they are not politicians, so, in the end, why do we get from these "debates"?

Seriously, what the fuck is the point of these people if they are only going to talk and not actually do anything?

Why do millennials refuse to do something of value instead of just sitting on their ass forever?

But isn't it cool when Peterson talks about dreams and how it connects with ancient monkey behaviors and religion and Peter Pan?

I'm pretty sure it's just some bipartisan retards who cannot live without shitting on one another so they want to discredit this event that ultimately had the conclusion of 'stop being tribal retards and actually discuss shit'

>durrrrrrr, he wrote it to express and proselytize his views, but you can't criticize it

Fucking amazing.
Let's disallow atheists from criticizing the Bible next.

peterson is low hanging fruit for marxists
there are far better arguments against socialism that actually get to the core of the arguments
Try arguing some of the austrian boys and get your shit kicked in.

I'm an austrian.
Fuck the neoclassical school, they're a joke.
No wonder marxists can refute their arguments so easily, anyone can.

isn't Keynesian economics just based on propping the economy up with government spending during times of recession, though? so after 2008 they just gave the money to the banks directly by bailing them out as well as by building bridges. and it worked because there was a recovery, as opposed to the real depression of the 30s.

Just as funny as when millennials say that the next superhero movie is what the world needs.
To be an activist is to be a clown.

you still didn't say how old you are, I know my achievements well, you don't know me at all kiddo, funny how you make so many baseless assumptions without any evidence. It's also interesting how you think an entire generation that's only now getting on its feet after being suppressed for years in a shit economic and educational environment can suddenly take charge in their late 20s early 30s when boomers are sucking all the air out of the room and taking up every top seat in business, academia, and government. Maybe it's you that didn't achieve anything and you're projecting your failures into the younger generations.

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fuck you and fuck that stupid gif

You think the people calling juden peterstein a kike grifter are SJWs? You got dropped on the head as a kid or what?

>Who cares what marx said?
The only reason you don't care what Marx says and start blabing about "subjective interpretations" is because you are too ignorant to read a single book on the subject of what you are arguing about. If only you could read only ONE TEXT about the subject matter, you would be embarrassed for yourself. You choose to argue over 'subjective interpretation' because you lack the knowledge required to argue about the objective facts. Which is not a surprise, seeing how you think neoliberalism is a buzzword lmao.

>dude the only way "compassion" can exist is through Leftist Authoritarianism and State Control of our lives

This is why Commies need to get shot.

>achievements I didn't have anything to do with, the post

>everything I don't like is socialism/communism

you're literally living the meme

>that's only now getting on its feet
No, they are in their 30s and losing their cultural spotlight, and completely wasted it by dedicating an entire decade to making an ass out of themselves.

>boomers are sucking all the air out of the room
Boomers such as the one in this "debate" that you millennials praise for no reason at all, and have yet to say something of value?

Millennials deserve failure for being failures themselves.

No, the thing you should know about Marx is that he predicted communism will come after financial capitalism, which is failing right now.

I don't think I ever said he shouldn't criticize it, just that 1. He didn't understand any of the concepts which Marx lays out in his work, and 2. he choose the manifesto because of how short and simple it was, criticising anything else would actually require intellectual work which we know Peterson isn't capable of.

Classical Liberal = follows the natural rights of Locke, it's mostly a philosophy of rights than economics itself.

Neoliberal = line of thought that appeared in the late 80s, more economical than philosophical, advocates for global free trade, laissez fairez and privatizations

Ignore any retard who says it's a leftist buzzword because they have never read Milton.

>baseless projection

Cool.

At least those generations have achievements.
What achievements do millennials have, flooding the world with superhero trash? Playing videogames? Listening to the rambling of autistic boomers and discussing which one is less brain damaged?

atheists have mostly moved on from bothering to "criticize" the Bible now that Dawkins has made all the money.

you still haven't said how old you are

Is this the rumored meme-power of the famous right?

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then why would you reply to me in the first place lol

No, peterson is a leftist faggot.

We're basically living in the result of keynesian economists.
Print trillions of dollars and give it to bankers and corporations.
Central banks are responsible for the massive wealth and income inequality yet they blame "capitalism" as if it has anything to do with the modern economy.

>The only reason you don't care what Marx says and start blabing about "subjective interpretations" is because you are too ignorant to read a single book on the subject of what you are arguing about.
I've argued with countless marxists in my day.
I know socialism means workers control of the means of production.
I just know it's impossible and even if it wasn't it still wouldn't benefit the workers.

>You choose to argue over 'subjective interpretation' because
Because it's all we were arguing about.

>seeing how you think neoliberalism
HAHAHA
You think central banking and massive government control over the economy is somehow "liberal".
Fucking idiot shoot yourself in the head.

>you can't criticize it

No one has said.

But I guess short political propaganda are the only texts Peterson and his fanboys can digest.

21, already have a job and a girlfriend which I will probably marry.
Meanwhile millennials are in their 30s, alone, have no jobs, and pretending they are saving the world by watching boomers namecall each other.

>literally living the meme of the post
>if I just kill everyone I don't like, the world will improve

this is why reactionaries are insane

>muh millennials
I wonder if people like you are capable of enough basic thought to realize that one generation raises the next. That if millennials are truly the monstrosities you make them out to be, a significant portion of the blame rests on their parents who (like you) seem to be contented with looking down and judging rather than contributing to society themselves.

No, what was wrong in 2008 is that they bailed out without forming any regulatory laws. Government spending to prop up the economy is just a tax money waste if you are not following it up with the new laws to make sure the failings of the past recession does not happen again. Nevermind the fact that people who caused the housing crises of 2008 walked completely free. But that's just the general political side of it, not the economics. But if they were men enough to slap a few wrists, it'd still do some good for the next decade. Next economic recession is going to be sooner and harsher but I don't care because it is at this point inevitable and laissez-faire.

>The right is getting better at comedy and it is scaring the left, or something.

You cucks literally write seething, scare-mongering articles about how literally every non-leftist joke or meme on the Internet is some kind of insidious nazi dog-whistle or something that will destroy society and needs to be banned.
So both of those points are apparently absolutely true.

See: Pepe, the NPC meme, Clown Pepe, etc.

>literally from /r/chapo
The left literally can't meme.

because free markets are still correct, you were just arguing against a strawman with weak arguments(neoclassical school)

lmfao, thank you
Disgusting Sniffing Zizek clowning on this motherfucker

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If you want to criticize ideas maybe you should read the text where said ideas are explained and not the prole-inciting cliffnotes version

>an entire generation failed because they amounted proportionally to the same thing the previous generation amounted to and I bought into the memes of them haha they just look at their phones all time.

>That if millennials are truly the monstrosities you make them out to be
They are, they are barely people, they are all manchildren and blue haired whores who's only contribution to the world is the entertainment they provide with their suffering and self destructive habits.

>i judge who is correct based on who is dating the hotter person

Wew. Are you a 13-year-old girl that watches MTV?

>reactionaries
Yes, anyone that doesn't want the state to monopolize all production and completely control their lives is a "reactionary".
Good job brainlet.

generations don't have achievements, individuals do. attempting to focus on a collective sense of self-worth just means your self-esteem as an individual is low.

by the way I agree with you about superhero movies being shit, but so were most westerns in the 50s.

real marxism has never been debated before

>I've argued with countless marxists in my day.
Lmao you are a clown and a baiter, not worth anyone's time.

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>an entire generation failed because they amounted proportionally to the same thing
Ruining the world like boomers?
Adding gas to the fire that boomers lit up?
Yeah, you are a failure and deserve to be punished for it.

Please don't lump in ancrap turds with reactionaries

>still no response
kek, so they are afraid

lol you are a millennial you idiot, a generation is 20-25 years, millennials ended at 2000-05. The fact you think your job matters or you have a girlfriend matters is really funny, anyone can get either of those, I have both and a house and a fuckload of money, doesn't mean shit. You're just as fucked as the rest of us, and here you are thinking you are somehow not, it's adorable

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Socialists literally have a lower Testosterone count and a higher Estrogen count on average.
This is not a meme. Look it up.
They unironically are sniveling beta-bros that can't make it in real-life, so they want to be oppressed by Big Daddy Government because they're submissive but also want that fleeting sense of feeling powerful they get vicariously from watching that same Government oppress people around them.

neoclassical economics is the leading ideology currently, although facing slack after the 2008 crash. I think we can both agree that this isn't empirical, so I'm not sure why you're so mad at me pointing to Homo Economicus, even your daddy Mises criticised it.

This is what leftists actually believe.

>Wow Ayn Rand got btfo, take that libertarians and ancaps, your god is dead

>Wow Jordan Peterson got btfo, take that alt right and white nationalists, your god is dead

They love this low hanging fruit shit because they're dumb as rocks and can't argue against actual right wing thought.

>millennials are all bad because a minority of them have childish interests or dyed hair
Oh fuck off.

>You were called out

i.e. pointless shitposting from salty fags.

Cope.

>posting a picture of yourself
but why?

>literal /r/socialism memes

>ANCAPS LOVE AYN RAND
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy fuck commie zoomers are actually this dumb

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>millennials ended at 2000-05
No, from what I read if you are born in the second half of the 90s you are gen Z.

>anyone can get either of those
Millennials can't.

>You're just as fucked as the rest of us
No, i'm handling myself fine.
But you don't have to be in too much trouble if you think listening to those boomers will save you from something.
What drives a millennial to waste his time so much?

Reminder that capitalists lick jew balls for breakfast every morning

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The entire debate reminded me of this meme

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It's liberals fault for destroying religion. Should have eased in to the whole gay thing a bit slower and there wouldn't have been a problem. Now the whole western world is culturally fractured into two major personality traits that is either frail or stupid that could be stronger if whole again

>neoclassical economics is the leading ideology currently
No it's not retard.
Pro-central bank economics like keynesianism and is the leading ideology.

>I'm not sure why you're so mad at me pointing to Homo Economicus
I'm mocking you for being incorrect about a topic.
Don't cry now.

>a minority
That's most of you, actually.
A harmful, posionous generation that will be reviled by everyone, or just memory holed, don't know which one is better.

Millennials have caused a lot of societal damage to the west, pretty much cultural terrorists.

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Capitalism destroyed religion

>guy shits all over you for being an idiot
>OBVIOUS NPC

Leftists are clinically brain-dead.
Keep stealing memes, though.

I'm not a leftist, just amused at the fact that the only people who ever complain about how "the left can't meme" are dullard ancraps or weak-ass republicans who do nothing but take already established memes and run them into the ground.

actual right wing thought consists of figuring how to move more units. i.e. a practical immediate problem that has nothing to do with politics.

actual left wing thought consists of figuring out how to manage healthcare spending to achieve the best outcome, i.e. a practical immediate problem that etc.

>tfw might be a communist
It's difficult to accept but holy shit Peterson got btfo

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>actually thinking Ayn Rand or memerson are serious right-wingers

At least say Mises, Christ man

>liberals must deal with how they create Trump and Alt Right
>does the same shit, is a mirror image of capitalist 'left'

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Remember that leftists lick central bank, corporate and statist cock every morning.
Enjoy being poor.

Hows that low post count going?

>pol - civil deep discussion
>leftypol - childish memes

>but de nu generatun was supposed to destroy entropy once an fo all

Give me a break

It is just religious behavior typical to low-IQ people.

you sound triggered, son
you are not nearly as intelligent as you think you are

>i don't understand sociology or psychology, therefore its stupid

Neck yourself.

Don't worry, based Zizek is barely a communist. All he proved is that Peterson is a clown.

>#N-NotAll dopamine rddled avocado toasts eating good-for-nothings

>marxists.org/
>marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>marxist.com/
>marxist.com/marx-marxist-labour-theory-value.htm
>youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
>youtube.com/watch?v=P8Cazq1XQ-4
>youtube.com/watch?v=DTUXzvWPzfE

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The books commies read have been debunked anyway.
Try coming up with better arguments next time.

That's the fucking point you retard. I'm mocking that very argument.

If it makes you feel better peterson is a communist too, that's why he's such a retard.

>Me? Of course I'm a Marxist. How could you tell?

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There's no lack of rightists arguing against low hanging fruit as well, though. Shapiro and Crowder are wildly popular and they tend to prey on college students, often to the point of aiming for humiliation over a genuinely beneficial discussion.

These people are very public mouthpieces for various ideologies. It makes sense to address the source that most people are listening to. Also, leftists argue against right wing thought all the time, that's where Marxism comes from.

Damn, I guess i'm going to proceed to listen to autistic boomers talk complete utter non-sense, you just convinced me.
Thank god the 2010s are ending that millennials are losing the cultural spotlight.
Another decade of these retards and their "activism" and they would ruin the entire world.

reminder that zizek is on the Trump train
youtube.com/watch?v=03k-NhQ3AKg

You've been taken a 30 year long break, millennial.
But yeah, I bet watching these """""debates""""" is some really tough job, come on, pat yourself in the back some more over all the tough work you've done.

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This.

Also REAL Nazism has never been tried.

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When you enter any uni, the first thing you're going to learn in economics is neoclassical theory and their foundations. While Keynesianism certainly has seen a surge recently, but ever since the neoliberal boom neoclassical economics has been the mainstream, a simple google search should suffice.

Can you point to where I'm wrong, exactly? Are you suggesting that neoclassical economics does not rely on these hyper-rational agents for their general theories such as equilibrium?

from what you read is bullshit, there's no absolute for generations, it's 20-25 years, anything else is a cultural divide, you straddle the divide between the 90s and 2000s, just because you choose to call yourself a zoomer doesn't mean you are. But besides that, your whining about millennials is hilarious because you're only a handful of years shy of the average age yet you think you are somehow different, you aren't. The same conditions exist for everyone, you can delude yourself thinking you're the exception, but that's all it is, a delusion. Nothing will change until the boomers die off or retire, this is a fact, but by then climate change is going to cause famines, disasters and shits going to get bad. We're all in the same boat, you're just at the far end.

One hater for peterson

And...

One lover for Peterson

Now you two kiss

>it's another /leftypol/ BTFOs imperialist scum thread
great success

>2:25:00
HAHAHAHH
also
>give me some names, and so on

>crying about """""""wealth inequality""""""" with zero regard for things like profession, localized economic environment, etc.

This is the true sign of a brainlet.
Their arguments literally boil down to "but Billy has more toys than I do! not fair!".

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He also got depersoned by the "woke" left for saying Germany shouldn't be taking in so many refugees. He's more of a conservative than the free market hooknoses pretending to care about countries.

Wow a single picture, I guess that proves it for the millions of millennials out there.

I'm gen Z, you're just being a dumb ass about it. Even if what you said was true, and you could prove it, it's still ignoring the issue that these people were raised by the generation before them. They inherited a world created by a preceding group. It makes no sense that an entire mass of people united only by a range of birth years would all collectively develop a certain trend, without any outside influence.

Just wanted to say this has been my most successful thread ever, I love you guys very much

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You millennials are just as cancerous as boomers.
This won't end when boomers die, it will end when you die.
I don't expect a generation of manchildren to fix the world, in fact, if there's ever been a generation more likely to start another World War, it's you.

>anarcho-communtards
>being well educated

Fucking lel. They're too busy protesting and hitting innocent people with bike-locks to bother learning anything in college, even FOR their worthless ideology.

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Was waiting for a blacked version

It's no surprise that Peterson hasn't read a single word of Marx up until this debate, but I didn't think he'd fucking admit it. Laughing my ass off.

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>m-m-m-muh millenials
Fucking lol. No arguments at all

No, millennials have proven it by devoting a decade to the massive joke that millennial activism is.

>it's still ignoring the issue that these people were raised by the generation before them
Good thing they had a couple of years to grow out of their retardation, since millennials are in their 30s.
But yeah, better say
>I-IT'S THE BOOMERS FAULT
and go back to behaving like an autistic manchild.

On Lenin and Leninism:

* archive.org/details/lininandtherussi035179mbp

* archive.org/details/ShortCourseHistoryCPSUBolsheviks

The works of Lenin and Stalin (in PDF format):

* marx2mao.com/Lenin/Index.html

* marx2mao.com/Stalin/Index.html

General works on the USSR:

* archive.org/details/AHistoryOfTheU.S.S.R. (be sure to add the dot at the end otherwise URL won't work)

* plp.org/books/ ("The Stalin Era" by Anna Louise Strong and "Fraud, Famine & Fascism" in that same link concerning the Ukrainian famine)

* archive.org/details/TheSovietsAlbertRhysWilliams

* archive.org/details/ThePatternOfSovietPower

* archive.org/details/MoscowCorrespondentRalphParker

* archive.org/details/RedVirtue

* archive.org/details/russiwithoutillu00sloarich

* archive.org/details/wedidntaskutopia00timbrich

* ciml.250x.com/archive/ussr/english/1940_october_1917_in_russia_mintz_1940.pdf

Soviet politics (elections and such):

* archive.org/details/TheSocialAndStateStructureOfTheUSSR

* archive.org/details/TheNewSovietConstitution

* archive.org/details/PoliticalPowerInTheUSSR

* unz.org/Pub/AmQSovietUnion-1938oct-00059

Soviet foreign policy:

* archive.org/details/SovietRussiaAndTheBalticRepublics

* catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/006770560 ("The New Lithuania" by Anna Louise Strong)

* archive.org/details/PeacefulCoexistence

The Soviet economy:

* archive.org/details/SovietEconomicDevelopmentSince1917

* archive.org/details/ManAndPlanInSovietEconomy

* archive.org/details/IndustryUSSRLokshin

* archive.org/details/AVisitToRussiaReportOfDurhamMiners

How the USSR handled nationalities:

* archive.org/details/PeoplesOfTheSovietUnionLamont

* archive.org/details/APeopleRebornTheStoryOfNorthOssetia

* archive.org/details/SovietLightOnTheColonies

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With this logic, future generations will call us all socially awkward retards that eat tide pods for a meme.

I'm afraid to read Marx. Don't want to end up communist

t. SEETHING millennial
Hows your beloved Sizlslvek and your Paterson going to save the world, exactly?
Did he promise you a job if you paid his patreon?

>this is the best /leftypol/ can make
>even that is an appropriated comic originally making fun of leftists with nonsensical alterations made with Photoshop

Fucking wow.

Collection of leftist political reading
mega.nz/#F!4EcEhIoS!5aZfv2Kz-IxQT933ywGf4w

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/index.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/index.htm

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Why? Why is your ego tied directly to that faggot? Grow an identity, get a backbone, go outside, have sex, and clean your room bitch

lol. you're funny

>durrrrr we so intellectshual

Wow, what a fucking genius meme. Truly the Left CAN meme.

UBI WHEN

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I like the dramatic change from Petersons fanboys claiming that he is going to absolutely destroy Zizek the them claiming that Peterson is just a psychologist and was outside of his field of expertise.

How many fucking people do you think get involved with activism? I mean really, what percentage of the population? You're besmirching an entire generation over that? Fuck me, it's like you're completely blind to the fact that our generation is inheriting the same rhetoric they left off. As though gen Z isn't filled with retards that are even more pushy with their deranged political opinions.

Why are communists shilling?

Why do these boomers have fanboys?

He turned the boomer meme into his entire worldview. You expect him to have a brain? I feel bad for him

lol ok kid, I heard this same rhetoric for years, you never explained how millennials are at fault, despite having none of the power. Explain to me how people that are just starting to reach their 30s after the worst economic period since the great depression, with unholy amounts of college debt, and corporations sucking the life out of everything while boomers are taking up all the management and government positions are responsible for all that shit, yet for some reason, you aren't? Interesting how you blame the generation you're barely "not a part of" of being broke as fuck in their late 20s when getting a good job was almost impossible until the last few years. Can't wait for Trump's idiotic policies to crash the market again and you're where we were, your future completely fucked, I'll be fine though because I own a home free and clear and have a ton of assets even if they halved I'd be good.

So millennials are either people who don't do anything at all to fix anything, or they are cultural terrorists who are trying their best to destroy the west just to stick it to the other half of millennial activists?

You are literally saturday morning cartoon villains.

FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani edgelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:

1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.

2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.

2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.

3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.

4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.

5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.

6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx

7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.

8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.

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It's more about his insufferable fans making it fun to see him dabbed on.

UBI is a capitalist trap, don't fall for it.

>despite having none of the power.
Seeing what millennials have supported over the past 10 years, I wouldn't be surprised if they triggered a third World War over some mean internet post.
Millennials getting into positions of power will be the downfall of the west.

Its well worth it, user. Start with Capital and read it along with watching Harvey or Shaikh.

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>On Lenin and Leninism
Yikes.
Vanguardism is basically guaranteed to give you a Soviet-tier situation, where a tiny elite bullies everyone else. The Mensheviks were right.
>Stalin
Even worse

Equality is boring.

Sorry, I don't feel like my IQ is low enough to read about dead ideologies.
I mean, communism has to be pretty fucking retarded for millennials to support it.

As if you've read a book in your life

What books have you read aside from that one, millennial, Twilight?

Reading Marx for his criticism of capitalism is valid even as a right-winger.

Reminder that socialists ARE jews and always were, ever since rich jew Marx got butthurt about his rabbi father.

You mean in 2019?
Kierkegaard - Either/Or
Nietzsche - Thus Sprach Zarathustra
Nietzsche - Beyond Good and Evil
Deleuze - Nietzsche and Philosophy
Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov

Marxian analysis is stronger than ever, you don't need to be a communist to take his economic ideas seriously.

>With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive
Like?

this one "conservative" zoomer in this thread got so triggered and the other guy who's clearly somewhat decently educated has been arguing with shit he doesn't care to understand lol

kid didn't study these topics in an 'educated setting'

of course he doesn't get the nuances of the debate

that said, Jordan Peterson was BTFO and I hate all this pseudo intellectual trash

i went to stanford and even here everyone is a fucking brainlet lol

we already hit the bump limit so i doubt anyone will read my blog

>dead ideologies
Marx is incredibly relevant as an analytic tool. You've only gotten as far as considering it a social movement, and that makes you a retard

Congratulations on wasting your time, millennial.

It's supported by millennials, the only thing it can cause is damage, because millennials only know about burning down.

Millennials are a massive group of people with different beliefs and interests you fucking sperg. It's not such a simple dichotomy, even if your autism demands you see things in black and white.
>You are literally saturday morning cartoon villains.
Are you just trolling or are you really such a fucking buffoon you can't possibly imagine arguing with someone that doesn't belong to the group you're arguing about?

>Even if what you said was true
>capeshit
>Fortnite
>Starbucks
>streaming services
>corporate shit
>corporate shit
>corporate shit
>corporate shit
>corporate shit
>muh equality
>muh social justice

He is right.

but user! I can cite many anti-zoomer, anti-millennial, pro-boomer writers just for you! don't go down this route!

>doesn't even know who nietzsche is

Millennials are scum because they are nothing but boomers part 2.

This also applies to gen Z. Don't think any of us will be removed from criticism just because you dick on millennials. If anything, it's setting a precedent to judge us by.

>Millennials are a massive group of people with different beliefs and interests
>he says that while we have voting preferences across continents that all consistently say that milenials are open borders gibmonkey scumbags

what generation of people aren't scum, I'm sure I could find some marxists among them for you.................................................

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is this zoomer retard who constantly says millenials over and over serious?

your only argument is MUHH RETARDED OLD BOOKS?

lol kid do some fucking LSD if you're so intelligent and grow up faggot

Of course the advice of a millennial is to take drugs, after all, your existence is defined by playing videogames and weed.

Entitled German cocksucker who wrote Woe is me books.

i don't play videogames you fucking nigger

seriously kill yourself

probably wear a suit IRL when you don't have a job lol

>Another thread with le clean your room man and some literally who
>Yea Forums - Television & Film

>gibmonkey scumbags
Fucking everybody does this. Older, wealthier people change the tune from their younger days and suddenly want lower taxes that benefit their position. If they're even older and are reliant on a pension or assistance, they vote in favor of policies that will expand those things. Stop reaching for bullshit to judge an entire generation by.

Even then, just because a general trend exists doesn't mean every instance conforms to it. Imagine if people accused you of being a faggy fortnite-playing tidepod-eating meme-chasing retard that leads a nihilistic life devoid of satisfaction, because "hurr thats what all gen Z do right?!"

>doesn't deny being good-for-nothing drugged up fucktard with zero usefulness to working society

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Yes, that is what gen-Z aka Millenial Turbos do. Planet would immediately fix itself if the plague would take them all.

Based zoom zoom dabbing on lazy millennials

Why are communists keeping their eyes down when I ask them what will be their work after the revolution?

You can lead the charge of self annihilation

>Peterson: I don't do "non-profits". Every enterprise I run is for profit. Even seminars I hold which help people with psychological needs, I run them for profit

Is there a more BASED guy? Always charge people for money. Never offer "free" help.

Oh yeah, you would do a lot if you had complete freedom to fight over how many blacks you want in the next shitty Marvel movie, millennial.

i make $140,000 working at a company called Adobe

you lost

you're a worthless 18 year old

This owns

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>twitter
Oh, so it's this kind of millennials the ones who care about the two rambling boomers.
Should have known.

I'm just glad millennial activism is falling into irrelevancy.

So you guys side with the troubled Communist over the troubled MGTOW speaker? That makes sense.

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What the fuck is wrong with me? I lean libertarian but I fucking hate Ayn Rand and everything she preaches in her book. Am I stupid?

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Peterson got BTFO

how? Marxism is inherently broken.

Peterson doesn't even know what Marxism is lmao

This

but that doesn't help the fact that Marxism is inherently broken, You can't get BTFO by someone that follows broken philosophy, at best you could say they jerked eachother off.

sure thing shill

>shill

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Nice cope lmao

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