/trek/

This might be cool, I hope they introduce some wild shit, like massive holograms, bigger than galaxies, of people talking to each other, and massive giant beings that are so tall they walk on the universe, their feet touch the universe's floor

Bingo

50% is better than 0%

Don't give them ideas.

I want to feel the actual size of the universe, I want to feel overwhelmed, that lovecraftian sense of dread. I want 14 episodes of this scene
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Rank the Spocks
>Nimoy
>Kid from Search for Spock
>Teen from Search for Spock
>Baby from Final Frontier
>Quinto/Peck (tie)

The thing about actual Star Trek is that it's pretty mediocre a lot of the time, but the highs are really high.

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If not a nerd, watch TOS

Game of Thrones is literally as bad as Star Trek Discovery.

Why do some posters post the same thing`?

Star Trek Discovery is good, but as I don't watch Game of Thrones I can't give any comparison of the two

get fucked nerd /got/ is poppin with memes four threads in an hour livin life baby meanwhile /trek/ is full of demented grandpas emptying out their colostomy bags n wheezing at each other about how confusing their new stories are
/trek/ btfo
/got/ out

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They’ll come back after Undiscovered Country therefore leaving the TOS era untouched.

Very well. That will be all, crewman.

I remember Spock!

Turns out, Michael is the key.

Can I get a rundown of Season 2? Thanks.

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Still don't have the square bridge decor or jelly-bean buttons all over the place.

So if they went further than any other star trek show into the future, they literally have no "canon" to follow at all and they'll do whatever the fuck they want, I can already FEEL you fucks seething and whining, and it's delicious

>wow I just luuuuuve /got/

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Instead of Burlington Bar, we should have Bashirfaggot watch the same 5 goddamn episodes of DS9 over and over in a Denny’s

Michael burnham

I'd watch it.

Michael cries every single episode
they go to the future

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Michael is the main character

can I pls get a link to the original video? pls

Very cool...very cool.

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We all know it's you vf. You're not fooling anyone.

disappointed my husbando didn't get one last appearance in the final ep :(

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He's a Kelpian.

I want to come across that obese hideous piece of shit and I want her to act as if she's famous or something, as if anyone cares about her disgusting overacted "reactions". Then I want to punch her until she begs for mercy, but I shall not stop, she MUST realize the error of her ways, only then she has my permission to die.

You ain't shit and you ain't gonna do shit.

no

SOMEBODY TELL ME THE NAME OF THE FAT WHORE

She won't talk to you.

Lisa Wesson, she has a YT.

KYS RETARD

pls no buly

>Can I get a rundown of Season 2? Thanks.

Section 31 created a Skynet scenario. An ancient dying being downloaded it's eons of knowledge into the Discovery's main computer, and S31 Skynet obtained that information becoming sentient and near omnipotent.

The data merged with the Discovery to the point where it gained enough control of the ship to ensure that it could not be scuttled, nor could it just be allowed to be destroyed through inaction. So to avert the extinction event, they send the Discovery forward through time to the 31st century.

Side effects of this are that the entire incident is highly classified, performing continuity cleanup because it explains why nobody in series after this ever talk about the Discovery and it's actions, it's unique advanced technology, or any of it's crew. Also Section 31 is heavily purged and it's assets decimated, with it's new commander intending to reform it, which ends it's period of acting openly and sends it into the shadows the way it's later seen.

ok

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the red angel turns out to be michael except it turns out to be her mother except it turns out to be michael

That does nothing to explain the continuity or aesthetic differences already seen during the show though.

and it doesn't need to.

Bitch, I am so fucking tired of you always acting like a pussy when I tell you to kill yourself after you post one of your pointlessly hostile rants. If you can't handle the bants then fuck off. Instead of posting something related to Trek you throw up your arms and start crying, every fucking time. You can either fuck off or the beatings will continue.
>inb4 internet tough guy
>fite me irl
This is the only arena that matters and the fact is every time someone calls you a faggot you act like a faggot. Stop blaming other people for their reactions to your behavior, retard.
kys

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except you turn out to be gay

jeez

Who gives a shit about aesthetic differences? Klingons use Romulan ships and cloaking devices because they removed the reference that Kruge stole a Romulan BoP in SFS.

I don't suppose they hinted at why the Enterprise technology seemed to regress before Kirk got his hands on it?

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you're not wrong

You were just posting about bullying and physically assaulting a woman you don’t even know.
Which is it?

You ever consider that these posts you dislike aren't all by the same person? Revolutionary, I know. Before you accuse me of being samefag, I didn't make any of the previous posts you replied to.

Just squint, ok?

based son of mogh

prove it by posting screencaps

It didn't. It's exactly the same thing, the only difference is one was not made in the 1960's

You have to give them at least some leeway the original bridge would look like shit just look at Enterprise this could be some Porn Parody

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Just fuck off or talk about star trek you drama queen

Okay

I mean, you're the one going on a rant about your archrival

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Quinto is actually pretty decent actor, with Jar Jar Treks he has mostly shit to work with. Casting is one of the few things Jar Jar did right.

I LOVE YOU MICHAEL - Spock

The 'accurate' ship design in that was embarrassing too. Looked like something from a shitty PS2 game

That's a BF post.

That's more like VF.

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Spock from The Animated Series

Accurate.

>Took a break after the shitty episode where the Borg tries to kill Michael's mom
>Lose all energy to keep watching
>Now the seasons already over

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They went to the 31st century with all their fungus tech and shit.

Obvious shop

Obvious shitpost

Lurk more

i want some wacky plots. i like the hologram idea.
>an intelligent mass of interlinked nanites has engulfed multiple star systems and uses their stars to generate power
>the uss enterprise enters the nanite fog
>the ship gets disassembled and the crew are placed into a physical simulation environment that collects data on their behavior
>they manage to negotiate a deal with the nanite fog, thus allowing them to leave in their ship
>except they were already killed and disassembled on arrival and now only exist as nanite constructs within a simulation environment
>not understanding the concept of the individual soul, the nanite fog sends out a replicated uss enterprise inhabited by a replicated crew
>the crew celebrates their escape and declares the nanite fog a peaceful entity

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>thinks about what to watch and scrutinizes all shows within the franchise ascertaining episode count for a comparison and tally.
>not a nerd

You can pick only one, nerd.

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Keep watching to take references here

How did Geordi rebound from this?

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they're never going to touch anything remotely resembling the transporter problem.

Dude nobody can talk about Discovery because of a directive Lol. That was the whole point of season two. What a fucking disaster. Season one was so much better and it was fucking terrible as well

How far is far? Doesn't Voyager go into the 29th century with the USS Relativity constantly monitoring the timeline for fuck ups?

Doesn't need to but it should

This is Internment Camp /trek/. You are here because you are enemies of the Dubsminion. There is no release, no escape, except death.

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>Who gives a shit about aesthetic differences?
I do. Sorry that you don't, but it's your attitude that gives them the temerity to fuck with Star Trek the way they do.

They went to the 33rd century i think

all the time travel shit and people being cloned makes it seem possible. i think a grim story like that would have to be in a separate star trek show though - like a comedy spinoff, except it's sad instead of funny.

Wrong.

What aesthetic differences and what continuity? Everything looks the same except realistic.

Is the Federation left or right?

The latest point in time prior to this was Nemesis, in 2379.

They just jumped to 3187

Obviously, undeniably left.

Wait what about my idea of giant people walking around? Let's discuss that bro

>which solved the problem once and for all
>but
>ONCE AND FOR ALL

its like STD was made to be a serious version of all the matt groening jokes about bad writing.

The dates in star trek don't make sense to me.

Gay

pardon?

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STD is just CBS trying to cash off the Star Trek brand name with writers who never watched and never cared to watch Star Trek

You ever consider that these posts you dislike aren't all by the same person? Revolutionary, I know. Before you accuse me of being samefag, I didn't make any of the previous posts you replied to.

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Whenever they need a le ebin nurd reference they just copy/paste off Memory-Alpha and it sounds like the characters are literally reading off articles.

>They just jumped to 3187
Christ they better not fuck this up
>mfw it's another season of finding primitive aliens with nothing interesting to say

>This level of cope
How much does CBS pay you

why didn't they just jump to another galaxy like they've done before

Voyager literally already did this.

Ship design for one. Uniforms are obviously different as are sets. If you want "realistic" look at the ENT mirror universe eps.

Difference of opinion lad. I feel they should.

Non-authoritarian centrist.

Pretty much this yeah

Ironically, the one who made that post isn't the same as

>exactly the same thing, the only difference is
See, that's a logical fallacy right there. You can't state something is exactly the same as something else then point out differences. The fact that there are differences means the two things are not in fact "exactly the same."

hi vf

sup nerds just cruising by to say /got/ currently has two threads
remember when /trek/ used to have two threads?
lmfao

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o.oo2 Schekels

>ENT encounters the Ferengi and the Borg before they should
>"lol we'll just never mention these events ever again"
>forums like TrekBBS are enraged

>STD has a bunch of crazy shit that doesn't fit in canon
>"lol we'll just never mention these events ever again"
>forums like TrekBBS go MMM YUM YUM GIVE ME MORE SHIT TO EAT NOM NOM NOM

r a d m u r e

just about every forum has been subverted and dominated by shills.

based and obsessed-pilled

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So why don’t you bitch about the visual retcons that happened before you were born?

it's all a conspiracy, duuuude

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M K U L T R A

After the first JJ movie came out you start getting the impression that this whole forum hates anything that isn't TOS (except the misogynistic parts, those are bad), JJTrek, and STD.

b u l l c r a p

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Please stop.

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It's content. He's generating traffic.

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Reminder that viewing guides are for tourists, real Trekkies watch it all

>letting someone tell you which episodes are good or not
Disgusting

>it's

You have to watch in chronological order.

user said he didn't want to watch them all. I don't blame him. Some episodes are shit. This way he at least gets the good stuff.

grammar nazi pls go

What a disappointingly shit show. Well done in ruining your franchise in just 2 seasons

YOU HAVE TO WATCH

where's my std guide

it grows on you

Why doesn't STD put some money towards ADR? All the alien actors, the klingon chancellor lady especially, lisp and muffle their words due to make-up/prosthetics.

ok bro
>the uss enterprise encounters a giant woman walking around
>the captain has a giantess fetish

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There isn't one. Just don't bother. It's shit. I'd say wait a few week and there will probably be some YT compilation of all the Pike scenes. Just watch those.

>If you want "realistic" look at the ENT mirror universe eps.

I'd watch those if I wanted cringey larping

whats adr?

>wait a few week

Automated Dialogue Replacement/dubbing/looping. Most Hollywood films have their actors come in and repeat their lines in a sound studio for clarity.

>I like Star Trek cus it's cool
>Star Trek roasties make me drool.

>I take screenshots, .webms too
>Cus I want to fap to you!

>Milky titties Yar and Troi
>Also Janeway, queen of VOY

>Blood and Cum and shit & piss
>not one episode I miss!

>HURRAAAAAAH TITTIES!

The good episodes are better after having watched the bad ones

I agree with that. TNG characters acted too nonchalantly most of the time and everything felt really archaically stiff. Sometimes it worked, most of the time it didn't. It's my favorite but not perfect.

Very well. You can go.

>Empress kills "Leland"
>all of Control's ships immediately stop in their tracks, and sit there waiting to be destroyed
What, why?

Leland wasn't Control, he was merely a physical manifestation of it (literally the same as when Control made some holograms), Control is the AI aboard the ships.
Why would that thing dying kill control

As long as you autistically force yourself to watch it all, I'm happy.

>>Empress
It's Emperor. Have you watched the show?

The producers changed 30 times this season which is why the writers stopped knowing what the hell the plot was

That's spelling, not grammar.

its gay

>The producers changed 30 times this season
You exaggerate and it makes you look a tit.

Pretending to be retarded now will not redeem the actual retardation you demonstrated earlier.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Porn parody wouldn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to build the sets.

Neither STD nor JJ Treks are canon, they are an alternate universe, made on a license demanding differences not to threaten revenue from original Treks merchandise. They can use characters and events from original series, but they have to look different. They'll do exactly the same thing with Picard show. The series is already in trouble because manufacturers do not want to make merchandise which won't sell.

You try to sound smart

>I make shitposts
>Yes I do

>Everyone knows
>I'm just a fool

>MKULTRA
>Flat Earth too
>I will force the /pol/ on you

>Midnight's Edge I want to kiss
>not one shitty thread I miss!

>HURRAAAAAH WHITE RACE

I love TNG for how comfy it is, but I'd agree with you. DS9 easily has the best acting overall.

because STD is a cavalcade of amateurish mediocrity.

>putting an apostrophe where it doesn't belong
Grammar.

25% rule only matters if CBS/Viacom merger doesn't happen (it's already happening). Picard show could come back with 100% rights intact, depending on timing.

>misspelling a word by using a homonym
Spelling

based & OC-pilled

If you thought that was trying to sound smart, you're pretty stupid.

Marketing is a conspiracy?

>writing "An ancient dying being downloaded it has eons of knowledge into the Discovery's main computer" instead of "An ancient dying being downloaded its eons of knowledge into the Discovery's main computer"
Grammar.

how the fuck will the picard show look "futuristic" enough for the 24th century if STD already looks hundreds of years removed from both the TOS and TNG era aesthetics

its all the big corporations, maaaan

TNG had a G-Rod mandate to not act like living humans. DS9 struck gold on their casting. ENT was comfy but great actors they were not

and they've proven, beyond all doubt, that it won't matter, as the quality of the writing pool is such that it could find a way to make anything bad.

this.
You tell him, user!

how do midnight's edge subscribers remember to breathe

Corporate entities don't seek to exert control over how they and their products are perceived?

They don't even have a pool, STD hasn't kept anyone long enough for that to exist. They punch in for their resume checkbox and then fuck off. There's no reason new productions will follow that model though.

Because there weren't any. Old Trek provided explanations for differences between incarnations.

Wrong. It's the same as writing "ancient beings downloading there knowledge. . . "
Clearly a spelling error.

Canon is fucked

>It's the same as writing "ancient beings downloading there knowledge. . . "
"there" isn't a contraction. Not equivalent. You're dismissed.

>TNG had a G-Rod mandate to not act like living humans
Yep. Kind of sucks that TNG started going up in quality once he got sick and started dying.

>The Dubsminion no longer endures in /trek/
img_sad_weyoun

>Kind of sucks that TNG started going up in quality once he got sick and started dying.
In some ways.
>first two seasons
>awkward, stiff characters
>crazy space exploration, aliens and phenomenon

>last five seasons
>more human, relaxed characters
>less space exploration and more ferrying diplomats and relationship drama

>"there" isn't a contraction
Irrelevant. The error was not in the misuse of a contraction, but in the misspelling of the intended word by happening to use a homonym that is a contraction.
Schooled.

youtube.com/watch?v=ufAzwreFLAA

forget it

>Irrelevant
Wrong. Your comparison doesn't correspond with the actual topic of discussion. It was a pathetic attempt, D- for effort.

Inceloid post right here.

The late season TNG grey political stuff is what people try and blame on DS9, too. That's the best of trek. The crazy aliens are also great but without humanity to compare to they had no punch.

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d- is still a pass

How the fuck does duet have no importance to the overall plot? It’s the start of Kira’s acceptance that their were two sides to the bajoran cardassian conflict

why is there always grammar cuntery in /trek/?

Maybe at school for the handicapped.

ENT was made to undo 40 years of plotholes, dipshit.

If you look closely at the sets and props, you notice a bunch of physical buttons and switches around the "futuristic" touchscreens. The shuttles even have rows of gauges and switches. Compare that to the pure touchscreens and sleek surfaces of the TNG era.
Basically if they remade the Enterprise-D sets with reflective surfaces, cinematic lighting and modern editing techniques, it'd look noticeably more futuristic than STD. A lot of what makes STD look so futuristic is just modern set production and lighting techniques. It would oldschool as hell otherwise, even with the fancy touchscreens.

pro tip: only go meta when you have a suspect and evidence to back up your claims
you keep getting btfo because you leave yourself too exposed btw

That's true, but I still feel that the early seasons have more imagination even if the writing was subpar.
The later seasons have much stronger writing, but you start to notice how more and more episodes are "The Enterprise ferries a diplomat to negotiate a treaty but they are hiding something".

I didn't make the fucking thing.
Just posted it for that user who didn't want to wade through 700+ off episodes of Trek.
It does list the episode as Great at least.

Because Jimmy has autism. He tries to correct people's posts but he can't tell the difference between grammar and spelling or a contraction vs. a basic possessive pronoun.

F is the failing grade, momo.

Means they have patrician tastes, that's what it means.
Star Trek was always a very brash-and-bold thing, while TNG turned it into something weirdly philosophical.

That's not the start of acceptance though, that happens before duet. Duet is still definitely the best episode of the season.

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I'm just asking legitimate questions.

lol what a fucking dumbo

The Autismo STD fan/CBS shill has no other comebacks to criticism of his shitty cancer show

The issue won't be ship damage. It'll be, "How can you make the series work when you've sent them 900 years in to the future and you're basically having a group of explorers out exploring in an ox-wagon when you've got literally everyone else also exploring but with airplanes. "

Yeah, there were a lot of those. Still, Picard himself was shown to be kind of the worst diplomat ever. At least Riker was proven to be good with klang diplomacy, Picard mostly got the diplomatic fuckup eps (and Darmok)

toxic & hostile-pilled

make new thread

I forgot Gergiou's name briefly so I just said the female form of Emperor.
It's still dumb though desu

fuck you

its to early

Just cool it with the cancerous remarks.

post contents

C L A P

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It's like early TOS, too. They started off with all kinds of wacky non-humanoid aliens, and then realized they no longer had the budget to support that, so we got a bunch of "It's a [period of Earth's history] planet!" episodes later on instead.

>literally everyone else

I don't think it's that much of a problem, since everybody's tech progresses at its own rate. like the Iconians had gateways 200,000 years ago and nobody else does yet (except for very limited uses in STO).

they can still run into pre-warp planets. the Federation itself is probably on the level of the energy being of the week from TOS/TNG though.

>They tied up everything nicely

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Will there be a PICARD show?

Thats also how they struck gold discovering the power of recurring characters (when you're not pure episodic).

kys retard

fuck you, chomo

hey that post is really toxic

>Discovery is going to the Alpha quadrant, 900 years in the future
Oh shit /trek/, there is literally ONE THING in the entire Star Trek canon that happens to be in this time frame, and in this area of space.

Voyager's Emergency Medical Hologram backup from that one episode.

I can't wait to be disappointed and have no reference to him.

he started it

>the Alpha quadrant
Fuck me, I mean the Beta quadrant.

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>I can't wait to be disappointed
Unhelpful.

I'm finishing it. Enough.
We're /trek/ goddamn it not some rowdy whorehouse like /got/.

>DS9 easily has the best acting overall.
OW!!!

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2 threads

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he's more than 25% different now

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they're going to reference it and it's going to be epic

The writers don't know what that is. They don't watch Star Trek.

I think TAS did an episode like that

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Considering some of the people that have been confirmed visiting Yea Forums, I'm actually curious as to how many senior citizens are in /trek/.

24, been here since I was 14

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they read the wiki. season 3 is going to be full of epic canon references from throughout star trek.

Star Trek: Dimensions (2020)

Follow Captain Biff Rudiger and the brave crew of the USS Dauntless as they explore the galaxy, facing great challenges and incredible new lifeforms.

S01E01 (2020)
The Dauntless is on a mission to explore an uncharted star cluster in the Higgs expance when all of a sudden they receive an emergency distress-call from a Romulan bird of prey. On board is ambassador Martek and he has news that might have dire consequences for the entire quadrant.

>how many senior citizens are in /trek/.
Probably Shatner is in this thread right now. He visits Yea Forums time to time

34
s-posting here for 2 years

>He visits Yea Forums time to time

No, he doesn't. Shatner visited Yea Forums a few times to check it out, but he's done with this place.

Says who?

>The series is already in trouble because manufacturers do not want to make merchandise which won't sell.
This. STD and Jar Jar merch is permanently on sale on many licensees. They can't simply drop normal retail price because it would make clients to question price of old school Trek merch. I don't really think it is in trouble in regards to anything other than quality. Star Trek is one of very few IP's with any value CBS has to offer for All Access. Even it isn't profitable they need to keep doing Star Trek until they have genuine hit product or they decide to bail on All Access. That is the reason why STD will get extended and Picard show will be made.

>Picard show could come back with 100% rights intact, depending on timing.
If that happens, they would have to do all the art department stuff from the scratch if they want to appeal original fans. They still have shit tier writers in shit tier production company that will continue to shit on the IP they work on. Suits on the top really don't care as long as their staff can cook up nice numbers to show for shareholders.

Your mom's bull

The show is made by people who are incompetent. What do you expect?

Travel speed isn't the issue thanks to the spore drive, and impulse is impulse. The real issue is they've got the Starfleet equivalent of some grandma's 20 year old Windows XP machine with a dozen toolbars and four viruses for a computer, BB guns for phasers and shields, and a warp system that can't recrystallize its own dilithium. Also all their security codes are 950 years out of date so they can't prove their identity or even talk to anyone.

I’m old enough to have watched and remembered all of TNG at original syndication broadcast.

>Michael Burnham is responsible for causing all of the problems and mysteries in the season and solving them.

>Due to Starfleet Regulations, the ship, the spore drive, Burnham herself, the time suit technology, and everything associated with the past season is never to be referred to again. Discovery is sent into the future, along with Burnham.

Like in season 1, the inconsistencies within its own canon are too numerous to list, but the major ones are thus:

1) Georghiu accompanied the Discovery through the wormhole, so if Discovery is indeed in the future, there can be no Section 31 show starring Georghiu.

2) One of the major arcs was the idea of the Sphere data and how Section 31 wanted to steal it. Section 31 tried to steal the data while it was being transferred from the Discovery to the mother Burnham's time suit, so they got some of it. At some point in this area (which is not clear), the data not only had the ability to defend itself (so, consciousness of a kind) but also no longer could be transferred out of Discovery (even though it was being transferred to the suit). The bottom line was that the information could not be removed from the database AND had the capability of controlling the ship, defending itself against destruction. None of this makes sense episode to episode, which is a problem.

3) There are numerous examples of shields being raised but people transporting through them (the last episode had Leland transporting through Discovery, but in the very next scene there's a discussion about transporting Spock back but they can't unless they 'lower their shields'). Granted, this happens in older trek once in a while, but examples like this show clearly that the writers do not understand the scientific 'rules' of this Star Trek universe at all. In order for them to work and be successful as plot points, they have to be consistent, and since they're not even within episodes, STD turns into a kind of pseudo-science fantasy.

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>Also all their security codes are 950 years out of date so they can't prove their identity or even talk to anyone.

presumably the future Federation would be able to figure all of that out within two beeps of a tricorder.

>chad picard: new series starring, written, directed, and produced by sir patrick stewart
>virgin kirk: showing a seventy year old movie on repeat to a bunch of boomers
where did it all go wrong?

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cringe

There's no reason it has to be JJ production either, the art stuff will almost guaranteed be done from scratch anyway. The problem with CBStrek was suits cared way too much (and were incredibly wrong).

>le memes
Yikes. /got/ is reddit.

Past a certain point it starts to require specialized historical knowledge to communicate. What would you do if an 18th century British ship of the line appeared out of a wormhole and started signaling at you in semaphore? Unless Discovery starts pumping out wide band analog signals on subspace radio nobody is going to be able to understand a damn thing they say, and that's a very dangerous thing to do for a ship with shields and weapons nearly a thousand years out of date.

>decompression involves everyone rubbing soap onto each other
>shower scenes
>underwear scenes
>trip gets locked into a tiny escape pod with a female
>trip gets to fuck every alien
Did they let the fanfic writers write enterprise?

>virgin picard: 4 shitty tng films over 8 years
>chad kirk: 6 great st films over 12 years

>virgin picard: 78, looks 80
>chad kirk: 88, looks 66

>muh production techniques
This is the laziest, most brain dead way of defending STD. I had thought you shills had moved past it.

The psychic sex bond in S4 was straight out of bad fanfics, too.

cont.

4) There is significant character inconsistency not only between seasons but also between episodes. Georghiu changed dramatically, and so did Tilly. That being said, surprisingly Pike and Saru were essentially the same, with Saru being the best written in terms of an actual story arc. The uneveness translates as well into the language used in the series, which flutters between 2018 buzz-words and phrases to more uniform 'future' talk that we see from Pike and Saru.

5) While the sets undeniably have very high production value, they continue to follow an aesthetic that is not at all practical for a work environment or for the purpose and function of shipboard operations. Furthermore, issues like the contractually obligated 'front window' of the bridge and indeed 'glass' that can crack instead of transparent aluminum, or the new turbolift rollercoasters contradict heavily what a starship would require to be realistic. Finally, in the last episode we saw a failure of the 'gravitational' fields in the corridor; this doesn't work, as in this period the gravity was controlled in the deck plates, so if they were functioning then 'down' would always be towards the floor, and if they failed, there would be no gravity at all. But gravity could not shift to a wall. So, the sets look nice, but they're utterly useless.

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That's why Voyager is pure

Exactly. The equipment is fucking ancient and there's nothing Discovery can do that a federation ship from 900 years in the future hasn't done and more. Plus aren't we supposed to be at the point where the federation had time ships and shit? Clearly they'd know discovery jumped 900 years in the future by sending an agent back to see the entire mission unfold, and already have a welcome party waiting for them when they arrived.

All of the Kirk movies were shit. He looked like a faggot granny and they didn't even give him a good death.
Picard is still going strong, wouldn't be surprised if the series leads to a movie.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a goddamned minute.

Idk if this has been said but for some reason the plot of flinging the ship into the far future seemed familiar. Then I realized....

They're ripping off Andromeda now. First they ripped off the tardigrade shit, now this. Andromeda is basically a show about what would happen if a Federation ship was flung into the future and the Federation didn't exist anymore? I bet any amount of money, this is what they'll do. Discovery will be in the future, the Federation will be almost non-existent and Mary Sue hero Michael will restore the entire Federation and be it's greatest hero.

Fuck Star Trek.

>I didn't make the fucking thing.
Not an excuse for your other behavior. Why did you post the version for ants?

imgur.com/a/XwHGU

jesus christ someone give this woman a burger

theres only skin and bones in there

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Horizontal/vertical turbolifts have been a thing since TNG, but they've never been visualized before.

>"I've been expecting you."

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Andromeda was created by Roddenberry.

There comes a point when respecting hard core fans and accepting the fact it just wouldn't look like that collide, I personally think the modernised look was the one thing this show got right. You have to seriously stretch credulity to sell the TOS era bridge design, without conceding it's just a product of 1960's sfx limitations. I mean seriously, it's just a bunch of unlabeled colored lights that make no sense whatsoever.

Men want thicc
Women want to be sticc

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cont.

6) Finally, the forced diversity (in particular, the rolling man who keeps on appearing in the background) interferes heavily with the way the series is written and the way it is shot, to the point where it is noticeable to an absurd degree. Women are written as men, and men are demeaned and degraded. The lack of balance is significant when one considers the intent of having women in power in every situation: Admiral Cornwell, The Klingon 'Mother' L'Rell, Burnham telling Pike what to do at every turn, Amanda being 'bossy', etc. As characters, they are written to act like men, because that is how the writers believe 'power' actually is...which belies their own lack of understanding of human character. As for the roller, there are corridors, door jams, etc. that make having a wheelchair entirely impractical on a starship, and if they can make Ariam why can't they give this guy new legs?

Season 2 was trash. It will be forgotten, not even used for the butt of jokes. It will be, if anything, evidence of how far leftist propaganda infiltrated and destroyed franchises.

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Will burnham be in season 3?

I'm merely stating the facts, which you can't dispute. I could make you a 3d render of the Discovery bridge that imitates the painted cardboard and wood materials of the TOS with flat, bright lighting. But I'm not going to waste time on a brainlet like you.

Wrong. The inside of a turbo shaft has been seen multiple times. They aren't rollercoasters inside an absurdly cavernous starship infrastructure.

Yeah, they even got the Spockscope and bridge clipboards believably updated for modern audiences. Even by ENT it was already straining believability a bit to pass off a TOS Connie as more advanced than the NX or even real world technology.

Star Trek V: turboshaft climbing sequence
TNG: Disaster: turboshaft climbing sequence
As well as the plans that were normally used for designing the sets for TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. In other words, people actually thought about this, drafted it as if it were a real ship, so that things would all make sense. They have been visualized before. The difference is that in the case of STD, they don't make sense (but look 'cool' to someone who is not thinking).

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glad to know im not the only one to get a boner watching that scene

that feel when no black momma to treat me

>we can't create a good looking bridge with modern techniques that fits within established parameters
Not with that attitude.

No you couldn't.

STD's contradictions come from external politics - the show as originally designed was pure propaganda in a world where Hillary won in 2016.
>oops
When Trump won they had to scramble to make the show less openly propaganda or risk the President attacking it directly, but all the bullshit you describe is bits of the show's true origins leaking through. I'd bet ten thousand dollars Burnham was originally supposed to be a tranny, hence the name.

>they don't make sense (but look 'cool' to someone who is not thinking)
That's TNG in a nutshell.

>risk the president attacking it
that has never been a risk for anyone and complete bullshit. Mike is a tranny.

learn to have sex.

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I want to fuck that lanky lady until she falls apart

How is that cringe?

TNG had tons of consultant shit going on to keep it honest.

We haven't seen the horizontal part visualized before, but it's there.

Also, the Final Frontier turboshaft scene is inconsistent with canon anyway. The numbers don't go up when you ascend, the bridge is not on deck 78, and the Enterprise is not 78 decks tall.

Imagine if you lived your every waking moment """""thinking"""""" like this

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>a show about flying around in space and aliens needs real science or it isn't """honest"""
what the fuck hahaha

This is true (because the fans care) but mostly needs self-consistency.

Timeship Relativity was 29th century. These two other moron who responded have never watched Trek before or they’re straight DS9 fags

This deserves a larger discussion. Bear with me, I'm going to quote John Eaves, regarding the design of the Enterprise E.

"Once that finally happened (basic concepts on paper), Eaves started putting in details. About the same time, he paid a visit to artist Rick Sternbach, who had recently designed the Starship Voyager for the new television series. As Eaves had never seen the ship or show, he wanted to see Sternbach's design, and also prepare himself for the process of getting the new starship approved.

"...I finally asked Rick, 'What does it take to get one of these ships approved? What are the steps? I know design has a lot to do with it, but what other particulars do I need to know?'

Well, Rick reached into his desk, pulled out a huge file, and threw it atop his desk. It was about two hundred drawings thick! 'This,' he said, 'is what it took to get the Voyager approved'. And he opened up the fil enad showed me sketch after beautiful sketch, each with subtle changes, so that I could see how the shape began, then evolved into the final product. On top of it all, he'd made a little booklet that included the breakdown: all the decks, what the ship could do, how it did what it did. He even had a scale chart comparing the Voyager's size to the sizes of the other Federation starships.'
TNG: Sketch Book: The Movies Generations and First Contact, page 86.

cont.

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This but unironically.

>trying to justify the STD turbolifts literally being on roller coaster tracks that twist and turn just for the sake of being "cool"
Turbolift shafts were always simple tubes that moved vertically or horizontally.
DisMISSED.

Even the Enterprise Enterprise was more futuristic than the original Enterprise. Nobody cares about your boomer-tier 60's spaceship design powered by a steam engine.

t. incel who doesn't know how computers work

Star Trek Discovery is literally water in the desert. An oasis.

Remaster DS9 if you're so great. You won't, because we both know you're a gigantic loser.

Of piss

And characters still meandered in clearly uneducated discussions written by aging boomers. Any Data dialogue is bound to include some stupid quasi-factoid that was debunked even back then.

Star Trek Discovery is literally crap in my ass. An unshat shit.

>Star Trek: Discovery’s second season has been stronger than its first.

The first season was kino. The second season was super kino.

Imagine the third one.

>we havent seen the horizontal part so it could be some silly rollercoaster in a cavern despite the on screen cutaways showing this not to be the case
>set design got the numbers wrong once so we can do anything we want
You are a brainlet.

Sometimes, Data eps tended to revolve around him investigating known non-facts though, not quoting them as scripture. Science is not his religion

He didn't need to record facts, he was trying to become human and in-character acknowledgement of complete bullshit is part of that.

I don't even watch Discovery, I'm just here to remind you that old Star Trek had its problems too.

Are you ok? Like, did you hit your head or something?

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The producers must have misinterpreted the complaints of "slow Klingon scenes" in the first season as "slow ___ scenes" which is why in season two every scene rushes by with characters spewing dialogue at 1,000,000 light-years an hour

In theory, you could crowdsource a DS9 remastering to /trek/ through "machine learning" software. We could do it, you and me and everyone else here working together, one episode at a time.

captrobau.blogspot.com/2019/04/how-did-i-upscale-star-trek-ds9-footage.html

>Even the Enterprise Enterprise was more futuristic than the original Enterprise.
That's arguable, sure. But they made an honest attempt to fit in. With STD they don't care.

I saw this before, it looks like trash. Upscaling is not a remaster. You're just increasing the sharpness of the DVDs.

I told you to do it, Morpheus.

Remaster this *unzips dick*

It's better than what you're gonna get otherwise, which is nothing!

Remastering is often just upscaling, depends on the sources available. Lots of current gen open ML upscales are garbage though and the ones that aren't are priced for studios.

Not entirely true.
Ira "Nobody Knows I'm a Lesbian" Steven Behr is using the DS9 doc as a backdoor way to fund a full scale DS9 remaster like what was already done to TNG. (scanning the original 35mm film reels)

Old Trek had honest differences. Nu trek varies from old trek due to incompetence and a complete disregard for what came before. You know, I can understand not knowing Star trek, to some degree but if you work on Star Trek and you dont understand Star Trek FANS, you are fucked.

new

cont.

Page 100
"So now it's January 1996, and we're just officially starting on the feature...Herman (Zimmerman) and I started presenting the last of the Enterprise-E drawings to Mr. Berman, and he loved all our efforts. This gave Rick [Sternbach] the time he needed to do his blueprints.'
Same Book

What you have to understand about all of this is that designing a starship in traditional Trek required thought and consideration for every step. The outside was designed first in terms of shape, then the interior was mapped out for the sets and their location in the ship, in order to understand corridor placements, size of rooms and turbolifts, etc. It was designed practically as if designing an actual building.

What has been clear from the onset is that STD wasn't designed this way at all...it was designed the same way as the sets for the JJ movies, where the set was designed without any regard for what is surrounding it. The ships were scaled with absolute freedom, which means that windows and shit don't match up at all to the scale between the exterior shots and the interior shots. Finally, it allows stupid things like the turboshaft roller coaster which essentially shows that there's a shittonne of wasted space in a starship when space is normally at an extreme premium.

Yes, but they were tubes. Not open tracks like under Gringott's. Don't try to Burhamsplain to me.

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And with all the money he raised, he was only able to remaster, what, 30 minutes of footage?

Good luck crowdfunding the whole series. Your only options are crowdsourcing or bust.

ira seems pretty rad

>all Star Trek fans want exactly the same thing

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>Yes, but they were tubes. Not open tracks like under Gringott's.
I was agreeing with you.

That’s still Nimoy