>realistic character actions and deaths: nobody is a superhero, main characters regularly fuck up and die and there is no plot armor >no bullshit filler: completely bypasses TWD formula of 45 minutes of sobbing to each other in a dim room in-between zombies scenes, pacing is hectic and quick in line with the characters clawing their way to survival, the slowest the show ever gets is when it gets tense >zombies are an actual threat alongside humans instead of it being one or the other, a single zombie can pose an extreme threat to the inexperienced >characters are grounded, not popping off constant headshots or leaping into hordes just to escape the next episode anyways >frequent early scene jumps keep the pacing fresh and prevents viewer fatigue by interestingly piecing together timelines >doesn't shy away from casually depicting realistic issues that would happen during a time of extreme civil unrest: increased drug production and use, prostitution and rape, looting and immoral survival tactics
I thought some of the acting was a bit cheesy, but I liked it over all. I do like the multiple sort of story arcs that play throughout the entire episode. I'd like a season two.
Josiah Myers
>I thought some of the acting was a bit cheesy Such as? The only time it stuck out to me was when the zombies would lightly jog and have too human movements, the worst one was probably the zombie that chased Lance onto the bus.
Isaac Gray
Damn. I thought this was about the comic where a superhero executes the traitorous president of the United States.
It was fucking shit in the worst way possible, not even "good kinda bad". And this is coming from someone who loves the absolute shittest zombie films.
There was A SINGLE REDEEMING FEATURE... The fact they were all shit with guns and didn't immediately headshot everything, that was the only thing about the entire series that didn't add to the abortion that is Black Summer.
Bentley Nguyen
>It's shit, irredeemable garbage and I fucking hate it >tell you why? Lol no
Nathaniel Ross
Op loved it, noped outta TWD 4ish seasons back and gave FWD half a season before realising shit was never getting better. I just found Z Nation and was hoping for more like BS but its an inferior beast.
Based. Old hobo with dog also gets an honorable mention.
>shows up out of nowhere and saves everyone >leads them to the diner >flawlessly plays his part in the heist >after all is said and done silently takes his leave, probably because he knows the stadium is a farce and will get everyone killed You just know he's coming back because no writer would have a character like him never show up again, he'll be in season 2s group or something to tie them together
Joshua Reyes
What happened to him anyway? Is he still running?
Jayden Powell
Missing and presumed alive. How can someone be so shit at the Apocalypse but get away squeaky clean every time? Lance is what happens when you roll a character and sink all of your points into luck.
Joshua Ward
>implying the fake car chase scene wasn’t the worst pile of shit I’ve seen in years Immediately dropped
Evan Diaz
Yet still better than all 5 last seasons of TWD, or since S2 for the patricians amongst us.
>How is TWD still on the air when this exists? You're right. Neither of them should still be on the air.
Kevin Martin
I love be this fucking show.
Evan Cooper
Loved that dude. He never spoke a word, did he?
Gabriel Barnes
I don't think so, I was actually confused because he appeared so seamlessly that I was sure he'd been with them before and I'd somehow missed it
Charles Reyes
Worse fucking thing I've seen all year. Absolute trash.
Shit characters, shit writing, shit action, it's all shit. >See's all the dead bodies in the shower, but carries on trying to help out the kid.
Everyone's a dumb cunt.
David Thompson
Yhaickes.
Adam Diaz
Just finished it, it started off good but then went TWD levels of retard, nice to have constant action though.
And Lance who i knew as Curly haired guy was a clueless champ.
Main lady and asian lady are cute.
Gavin Clark
>Korean Lady >Cute.
I have yellow fever to the point that I am dating a Thai woman but that Korean lady from Black Summer was a dog.
Carson Perez
Ha fair enough! I still think she is cute.
Jonathan Hill
Come on she wasn't that bad, even if you don't like her physical appearance she acted really cute
Juan Rodriguez
I wanted to think she was cute and she did act kind of cute but I thought she was a boy for almost an entire episode.
Carson Gray
>Such as? The only time it stuck out to me was when the zombies would lightly jog and have too human movements, the worst one was probably the zombie that chased Lance onto the bus You got a horse in this race?
Jeremiah Robinson
I'm not sure what you mean, I just wanted to know which actors you thought sucked
Juan Gray
It was fucking garbage. The zombies were just people with blood smeared on them, it looked like each episode had a 200$ production budget
Adrian Sanders
Garbage. The whole thing was filled with unrealistic actions and deaths, you retard.
Liam Rodriguez
Name some.
Elijah Phillips
>extreme views i sure love exaggerating faggots. its a decent formula. i thought the ending was a bit rushed and it had some pacing issues, but in the end it did not make me feel like i wasted my time watching it.
Grayson Campbell
most believable faggot. this is literally the average normie in zombie apocalypse
Bentley Phillips
>They(everyone) never closed doors behind them when being chased. >Chasing someone for an hour at high speed for their gas that you are burning by chasing them. >Damaging the car youre trying to steal. >Velez gets behind the truck and starts ramming his engine into the back of a giant truck which hurts his van more than their truck. >Velez trusting the meth head in the diner and trusting his “that wasn’t me that the guy driving” for even a second. >the whole tap on the window and attack the zombies from behind plan. >seeing dead and undead bodies for weeks then losing your mind once you see bodies in a shower and then running away, even though it was your idea to stay and look for the kid in the first place. >there are times where army dude didn’t even try to aim for the zombie’s head at 5 feet away and rapid firing into their chest. >Not even checking the cars in parking lots for gas. A few more that I forget because I didnt write them down.
Dominic Hughes
>Stupid wolves >Chasing deer to get the energy they are using to chase them When will they learn
Anthony Moore
Your brain is broken.
Alexander Ortiz
It wasn't perfect but I did enjoy it. Yeah there were things that didn't make sense, but everyone on here acts like they're veterans and would act out perfection during an apocalypse.
I hope there's a season 2, don't bring back dog dude (even though he's the best character), the korean is ugly, and I was annoyed the deaf guy died. Oh and that fucking faggot hipster, wew lad can't wait for the most brutal death with him. Like Day of the Dead ending brutal.
Julian Hughes
> that fucking faggot hipster Who? Lance? He's not a hipster, just retarded. Literally. Him surviving for so long despite having the mental capability of a six year old is the most unbelievable part here. That being said, i really enjoyed that episode where he was chased by one zombie all over that evacuated town.
James Baker
You're not wrong but I still enjoyed it more than TWD (1st season was good), FTWD. All the doors being opened really bothered me more than the stupid car chase.
Dominic White
He looks like he goes to coffee shops to type his Buzzfeed article, and tells everyone at work about the latest indie band he's into that we wouldn't understand. Plus I swear he was being raped and that's why he was in that military compound with the other whores.
Liam James
Nah, dude. He's just an imbecile. He did get raped, though.
Jordan Cruz
>The zombies were just people with blood smeared on them It was the beginning of the apocalypse. Only recently dead were turning. There wouldn't be rotted corpses walking around. >it looked like each episode had a 200$ production budget Both of these are produced by The Asylum, so it probably did have around that much for production. They're still better than any other zombie media made in years. >They(everyone) never closed doors behind them when being chased. Yes they do. Multiple times in the diner, in the school, and in the bunker. The few times they didn't was because the zombie was right behind them and they would try to slam it shut as they ran past but the zombie would push it open before it closed. Not only that, these zombies were much more human like - apparently being shown trying to climb buses and ladders, and very likely still had rudimentary door-opening instincts. >Chasing someone for an hour at high speed for their gas that you are burning by chasing them. Did that group of people appear particularly intelligent to you? In fact most of your complaints are along the lines of "They didn't act perfectly rational in a time of panic and immediately learn new tactics in the face of a zombie apocalypse." >Velez Was an idiot whose emotions got the better of him, and he rammed them in a fit of road rage. Panicking, angry people do stupid things. >Velez trusting He didn't trust him. He was clouded by the desire to see his family and by the redneck stroking his ego ("we're the top dogs"). >the whole tap on the window and attack the zombies from behind plan. What reason would they have for thinking this wouldn't work? Keep in mind they clearly don't understand how zombies work yet. They thought they could bludgeon them into submission.
>seeing dead and undead bodies for weeks It was still the VERY FIRST DAY of the apocalypse. Everything up until episode 6 Heist takes place on the same day. >there are times where army dude didn’t even try to aim for the zombie’s head at 5 feet away and rapid firing into their chest. You've clearly never shot a pistol. And even with training, a head - especially one on someone sprinting - bobs and moves all over the place. Speaking of training - "Army dude" was an imposter and didn't have any. Even if he did, soldiers are trained to shoot center mass because - again - the head bobs all over the place, the chest is relatively still and a much larger target. >Not even checking the cars in parking lots for gas. Panic, fatigue to the point of hallucinations, likely shock - all of this REALLY tells me I should expect these people to be perfectly aware and making wise, rational decisions.
Julian Morales
different user here, I thought the acting between barbara/spic/chink was awkward not because it was on purpose, but because of tone deaf writing >look I'm not gonna rape you guys! >this is a punishment! for all the bad things!
Ian Mitchell
user is Z Nation worth watching?
Nathaniel Sanders
You're right for the most part, except the doors. The zobies were incapable of using a door-knob, they just tried to slam through obstacles. And that zombie on the bus? Took him forever to climb it. I don't even remember a zombie climbing a ladder.
Christian Hill
You're actually retarded if you think it was the first day of the apocalypse. >literally opening scene show a family photo of a different family than blondies family implying that isn't even their home >The entire neighborhood understands exactly what the sirens mean >everyone knows to get down when planes fly over >Blondie's whole family understands the implications of the husband being injured and why its important to hide that fact from the military It very clearly had been weeks into the apocalypse. Later on military personal also talk about "black zones." That shit doesn't happen overnight. This show was so clearly from the perspective of weeks after. They even talk about the "Rules of the Road" multiple times, implying shit has been like this long enough for people to know what to expect.
Like come the fuck on, are you actually this stupid?
Lucas Foster
not him but absolutely yes its lighthearted and does not take itself too seriously, but actually has fun with the setting, zombie variations, and the main character is a halfzombie mutant due to an experimental vaccine and slowly gaining powers
Ethan Cruz
Yeah, they said in the first episode in had been more than 3 weeks.
Thomas Morgan
When I first heard about FTWD I was excited to see a show taking place at the start of a zombie infection. Getting to see the early stages of infection is really rare in movies/shows so I was looking forward to it. I think they had maybe two episodes which covered it then bam it turns into TWD lite. So much for it being its own unique take on the walking dead universe.
Black summer is the first real zombie show to cover those early days/weeks and for all its flaws it still a damn good watch. But damn can they cannot shoot for shit
AIM FOR THE HEAD YOU DONKEYS
Gavin Cooper
Nah, it's early stage at best. They clearly haven't grasped the whole undead concept apart from knowing something contagious is making people go frenzy. And the jets? I'd like to see you standing upright when a jet suddenly passes like 50 feet above you.
Jayden Rodriguez
>white males story in E01 >30 seconds of him acting like an asshole >rest is about a zombie girl
Parker Price
Right? I even recall them talking about how silly things seemed back then. People were already down to murder, rape, kill, like shit that would take a few weeks to really come into the hellscape.
All you "gatta shoot em in the head" monkey niggers realize zombies don't exist in this world and the people have literally no idea that that is the case. In real life you don't aim for the head.
Aiden Scott
refer to They don't get down because planes low . The planes aren't 50'. They get low because the planes are on bombing runs. The moment the trucks leave every scatters because They know what happens next. The sirens go off alerting people to get to evac trucks.
Sorry bud, its been weeks. If you don't think so, You're certifiably retarded.
Jack Bennett
Am him. It is campy, cheesy, and knows full well it is just about the silliest thing on TV. And for this reason it is awesome. And after a while the characters actually show growth and the plot ends up going somewhere (even if they made it up as they went along) and has an OK ending.
I definitely recommend it to anyone not REEEEing over things not being perfectly rational and expertly executed like a Tom Clancy novel. Does a giant ball of zombies showing up in one episode piss you off or make you chuckle? Do you roll your eyes or perk up with silly glee at things like Z-weed, a Z-nami (a tsunami of zombies), or a guy turning blue because he was bit just as he was being given a cure?
When they headed for the stadium that last episode i am fairly certain that half of those zombies were due to all kinds of people firing their mags into the general direction of a threat. When the zombies didn't get you some assholes stray bullet sure did.
Jackson Johnson
thats how that one bitch with the bf died, some random person shot in the direction of the dead and it hit her
Charles Campbell
It's the giant cheese of zombies from an earlier episode. They brought it back for shits and giggles.
> its been weeks Weeks of what? Rumors? In the diner clearly NO FUCKING ONE has any idea what's up.
Jason Bailey
I gonna check out S1 and go from there, was not expecting it to be sorta b movie fun but am ok with that.
furthermore unlike the people drama in zombie world TWD, ZNation is an actual ZOMBIE SHOW there are not really filler episodes, there's always shit going on, bar one ep in the first season, and what's more, they always come up with something new and clever most of the characters are likeable and grow, and they do grow on ya the dude mutating into a half zomb starts feeling for them, not wanting them unnecessarily hurt, they really portray his development in a nice way he later gets completely ignored by them, does not need to eat or drink, cant sleep, and slowly gains control over them, and starts infecting people here and there and goddamn he's one of the most entertaining and enjoyable characters i've seen in a fucking long time
Plus it's got The New Guy in it: DJ Qualis. He plays a low army grunt stuck up in the frozen wastes of Alaska manning some communications post when the apocalypse hits. He becomes the only major broadcaster left in the world and tries to keep hopes up as Citizen Z, along with helping the main group once they establish contact. He has his own troubles, and much later joins up with the main cast
> It will be the most kick-ass, self-aware — but not in a wink-to-the-camera way — balls-to-the-wall zombie freakshow that anyone has ever seen. No one's ever let me completely loose [like this].
>No fillers that's what surprised me as well, bar the ocassional hickup, there's no deaf spots, it's just a fun ride in general there's a one dumb moment with bad CGI at the end of the first ep, but other than that the story, development, ideas, and effects are wonderful and definitely better than the shit TWD evolved into and there's only one nonsensical ep, i think ep 9 in season 1, with only two characters with no actual bearing on the plot and basically all just a dream bro, nothing to miss in skipping that one
James Bennett
they even put GRRM in a zombie makeup in, locked by a deranged fan making him finish the fucking books it's just an overall fun ride
Not the same guy, I'm not sold on it as most, although watched upto the Gershon plot finishing. Saying that, my favourite episode IIRC was an early season finale where you saw everyone on the day of the outbreak, Doc was cemented as my favourite then.
William Sanders
Two of the world's most overrated authors ever, but at least Martin made bank bro. Fuck Clint, his book was novelised Aids.
Christopher Johnson
Second only behind Murphy for me. Doc's hippie stoner nonchalance about "it's the apocalypse, man" really helps a viewer relax and accept/enjoy the nonsense.
The people I was watching it with were amazed how I could point out within less than a second who the secret bad guys, rapists, betrayers and racists were. Every single time lmao.
Charles Cooper
Takes one to know one, eh?
Jason Brown
hello shill, how much were you paid?
Joseph Campbell
Murphy is GOAT. He’s a conman/mutant/zombie “messiah” with a heart of gold. I love him so much.
Samuel Perry
Fuck yes.
Ryder Myers
That fucker needs to learn how to shut doors behind him and if the doors are automatic, like that on the supermarket, do something to block them from opening.
Samuel Flores
>realistic character actions >brown people are all virtuous paladins >white males are all evil rapists Not very realistic m8
Logan Butler
S1 is the creators finding their tone and rhythm, so it’s not the best example of the rest of the show. Over the course of the first season, they gradually abandon all pretense of being a serious show and just embrace the lunacy.
Aiden Hughes
He's a literal imbecile. Running is his only option. Kinda like Forrest Gump with zombies.
Jose Garcia
Yup! Doc and Murphy are definitely best boys.
Peace out, bitches!
Camden Walker
I really liked the drone footage over/through the crowds.
Gabriel Ortiz
Also, as soon as someone’s loved one dies. They run away feom the body knowing it’s going to come back.
Bentley Anderson
>In the diner clearly NO FUCKING ONE has any idea what's up. Yeah. The writing is inconsistent. Hence “Garbage.”
Jose Bennett
That deaf guy didn't.
Jace Jackson
Fuck off, this is a Z Nation appreciation thread now. >a heart of gold More like a heart of coal that was pressed into a diamond.
