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>complains about ST being too feminist

Did you even watch the original series, or any series? What series isn't feminist in your eyes?

Enterprise changed it name to Star Trek Enterprise in season 3.

>Who the fuck would design something that way
The same people who would design a starship that has exploding consoles that also shock you and catch fire, because apparently all major power conduits run right through/around/underneath where everyone works instead of just, you know, keeping them away from people and having the main power branch off instead.

I'm not arguing that the ship design is stupid, at all. I mean fuck, look how many times TNG enterprise had it's warp core almost explode and kill everyone instead of just ejecting it.

Idiot.
Edit: downvoted.

To be fair, Discovery is really female oriented compared to any show

Hi /pol/.

Just came by to say I saw it and also:
Complete steaming ass water. How can they possibly expect anyone to take this seriously.
That is all.

It might be, but if you are complaining about Star Trek pushing progressive ideologies, this show might not be for you.

didn't they go into the future to get rid of the data as well?

Im not, but i do cringe at what i consider to be hard pushes for inclusivity

I liked this season. I thought it was bretty gud

Was this the series finale or continuing?

>A third season was ordered in February 2019.

So you cringed when you watched any of the other series?

If the warp drive is capable of bending spacetime to achieve FTL travel, then why can't they also bend spacetime so that anyweapons fired at the ship simply go around them?

yeah, everytime i saw a minority

because they can't multitask

Geez this was bad, can't wait for them to fuck up Picard

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This season finale doesn't make sense. If Michael's first jump was to the asteroid, how did Spock get the visions months before that happened?

her mom?

Georgiou has the data stored in the spore drive

yeah, which is in the future and supposedly out of harm's way

That sequence when chinawoman and alien breathing girl go after control reminded me of those robber chicks in Jay and Silent Bob. Was Kevin Smith somehow involved maybe with this episode?

Gentlemen, the reason STD sucks isn't because of feminism, it's because the writing is straight up shit. If Micky was a dude, then we'd be getting a dozen space kangz jokes in spite of the fact that Mayweather and Sisko existed and Sisko literally had the mandatory black history episode.

Right but the thing is, since control is dead the data was no longer in harm's way, and they could have just used all the info now that it was 100% safe.

it fully prevents the future where control succeeds tho...or some shit.

The art department (CGI mostly) really knocked it out of the park though. Like, if they had some fucking DIRECTION that made actual sense this would be an amazing trek to watch. Such an absolute waste of their talents and efforts.

Except control was terminated. The whole point of sending said data to the future was because control was still "alive".

No, the cgi is equally bad. It's expensive but bad.

>Except control was terminated.
was it though? Either way, they're removing the piece off the board. It's a stupid show, what's the point in nitpicking stupid shit?

In what was was it bad?

The one plus it has going for it, even though sending the data was absolutely pointless after control was killed, is that it removes STD from the timeline and sets it well in to the future where it can no longer interfere with other trek shows canon. And at least the picard show is now safe from discovery's bullshit.

The mushroom-space ep is about the only one where cgi wasn't solely to fill in empty space where writing should go. The consoles and things are very flashy but they're on par with the klang design choices, pointlessly tryhardingly desperately baroque.

despite all its flashiness, std has always been boring as fuck

That's an issue with the art direction, not the art.

What grates me most is how Control gets in these extended cut scenes and even loses at times

We see the Terran chick have an extended fight with it when it should be able to just tear her throat out. It's like watching a kid hold a Terminator at bay over and over and whenever the Terminator moves in it just kind of backhands the kid lightly.

They clearly spent lots of money on it. I'm sure whatever korean studio they've got on it is very proud of the work they've done to damage the show. Other than a studio probably demanding every single nanosecond of that money being put in t he forefront, they swap out all of the directors every half-episode so its no surprise that's shit.

>FOLLOW QUEEN SPUMONI

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I'm starting to like ENT.
I-it's totally not because T'Pol makes my peepee big or anything!

there's vulcan nerve massaging techniques that can help with that. T'pol is the worst though

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Eh, it was about what I expected. Compared to the first season it's great but there are still some glaring plot holes. I disliked how Pike choose to not abuse his plot armor by staying near the torpedo.

Hopefully the next season will be Voyager done right, although Terralesium could be federation tech level by now.

Its also funny that the new predator Kelpiens apparently killed their swampmonster overlords in a few weeks and took over the planet.

Whoever writes the Memory Alpha summaries for STD doesn't seem to know what "summary" means, but if the Memory Alpha pages make me want to die, I can't imagine what actually watching STD is like.

>tfw I well up like a bitch when watching something I'm interested in and something epic happens

Anyone else know this feel?

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When STD first started its 2nd season, I was led along believing that it had gotten mildly better, and perhaps even watchable. The episode where they went to that religion planet actually kind of felt like a Star Trek episode. The 2nd half of the 2nd season was worst than the first season. Why are they even bothering renewing for a 3rd season? They should cancel this trash pile and be done with it.

The finale suffered from bayformer “wtfisevengoingon” syndrome. Way too much garbage on screen.

Why do they expect us to care about..well...any of these characters? Even Spock doesn’t feel like Spock so who gives a shit.

Byran Fuller is probably feeling pretty smug right now. He wanted to do Trek the right way, and was fired for it, and now instead we have a flaming pile of shit

If any of you fags are paying for CBS all access, you should legit kill yourselves. No joke.

They've got a lot of sunk costs, probably already rendered next season's CGI. They're also desperate to launch their forever-dead streaming service somehow. They don't need people to care, they need clickbait to drive gullible people into trial subscriptions to make their stock look good even if only temporarily.

There's also some potential good stuff when they re-merge but probably not related to STD.

T'Pol isn't even that hot.

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>DUDE SPUMONI space black panthress
>sixty year old asian woman acting like a 14 year old edgelord
>nanomachine filled villain with the strength of an average man at best

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You know most people can just watch it on Netflix right? It's just you Americans who can't.

It's also fairly decent at the moment. It's not amazing but it's not nearly as bad as the steaming pile of shit that was season 1.

I just hope they don't make Burnham captain.

Here’s an idea: why don’t they just make an actual Star Trek series. This would be the most financially rewarding thing they could do. If the Picard series isn’t this, they are shouting themselves in the foot, actually more like the micro-testicles.

If you legitimately think that STD is a good, well written, enjoyable show right now, you are either lying to yourself, or just have terrible taste. Like the worst taste ever imaginable. At this point I’d rather watch paint dry then have to sit through another episode of burned-ham and the faggy bunch.

They couldn't before and they maybe could now but we don't really know the details of JJ's rights. Either way fuck Les.

>Here’s an idea: why don’t they just make an actual Star Trek series.
Enterprise "taught" them that that will not work.

What a fucking mess that battle was.

not him
can you explain?
why is ENT considered so shit anyway?

Shut your face cunt or I will get angry and you will be a cunts tit

>good
No.
>well written
Lol no.
>enjoyable
Yes.

It's a decent action science fiction show, better than most of its current competitors. Anyone saying this show has no redeeming qualities whatsoever is some sort of try-hard edgelord.

Why are the torrents not yet up?

its about as science fiction as harry potter. the action's kind of shitty outside the cgi bits, they really underused Yeoh on that front, current competitors still includes old reruns (and other streaming services know this)

WOW WHAT AN ENDING

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Did you watch ENT? ENT wasn't bad because it followed Trek formula, it was bad because it was shit. When the stories weren't tired Trek stories they had done before, but worse, they were making mind-bogglingly stupid episodes like A Night In Sickbay, where Archer nearly tanks diplomatic talks because he's horny.

That's what happens when you get guys who had been writing Trek for nearly 20 years to do another goddamn show instead of going on a break or getting some fresh eyes. It wasn't until around season 3/4 that ENT got halfway decent, and by then most people jumped ship.

Its not a matter of it being shit. Its that ENT didn't preform in the ratings they way they wanted so it was considered a failure.

Calm the fuck down. I like ENT. I was merely pointing out that the reason for its cancelation (studio idiocacy mainly) is why we won't see its like again, at least not anytime soon.

Notice the quotation marks? Try not to froth so hard next time.

I Like Pike!

ENT isn't considered shit, persay, the
>"learned"
implies that there was no comparable lesson here. ENT's production was like the exact opposite of STD's. Everyone fucking cared and they wanted to make it the best thing ever but they had no money and the circumstances in the whole world and more importantly the studio were extremely dire. Fanservice was baked into the show but they did it well enough as to not ruin the trek parts which were on par or better than previous treks but less smug.

Child abuse is fucking disgusting and you guys should be ashamed of yourselves!

They have been up for hours.

>Byran Fuller is probably feeling pretty smug right now. He wanted to do Trek the right way, and was fired for it, and now instead we have a flaming pile of shit
Bryan Fuller was behind like 80% of the shit I see people bitch about for the first season. Like the Spore Drive. And Klingon redesign.

>Did you watch ENT?
I'm still in s1.
>That's what happens when you get guys who had been writing Trek for nearly 20 years to do another goddamn show instead of going on a break or getting some fresh eyes. It wasn't until around season 3/4 that ENT got halfway decent, and by then most people jumped ship.
Makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

rarbg.org

What's your point? STD is too feminist. The other series have feminist elements, sure, but it's in moderation, it's one part of overall more competent writing. STD is too feminist because its feminism sticks in your teeth in a way hat the feminism of previous series didn't.

>Bryan Fuller was behind like 80% of the shit I see people bitch about for the first season
Says the studio that is putting out this shit. If Bryan said something like "I think we should revamp the klingons and try to bring them up to modern standards" and then once he gets fired they do a complete redo of them, is that his fault? Its classic passing of the buck. Bryan is no saint, and has made plenty of mistakes when it comes to trek, but he would not have delivered STD as we have it today. And he damn sure wouldn't have been crowing about it if he did, like these current hacks are.

If you watch the scene she could actually have dived under it before it closed had she moved fast enough.

DONT REPLY to him

Okay found it. Fucking en.btbit

Everything you said about the staff caring only really applies to season 4 when Manny Coto got the reins and starting making an honest-to-god TOS prequel. When you look back to S1/2, especially when Braga/Berman were writing, it's really hard to imagine they actually enjoyed working on the show.

It even crept into the season finale, which was written by Berman/Braga. Notice how in that episode Archer reverts to being a complete douchebag even though by S4 he was a way softer character, or how they just nonchalantly drop the Tucker/T'Pol subplot and don't even address what had happened just the episode prior.

If every trace of feminism was removed from STD, while it would be less grating, it would still undeniably be shit.

Very well. You can go.

Why are people here so angry?

Oh sure
But at the same time I think if the writers couldn't lean on yasss queening to try to appeal to an audience they might be forced to write something better

link to the original yass queeen soudbite?

Where the hell did the Ciscovery and the Enterprise get all these shuttles?

Starbase 31

You given them too much credit. Or, at the least, think too litte of the bubble they operate in.

I gotta say, I actually really enjoyed the visuals they did for Burnham jumping through time. The production value on this show is so much better than it deserves.

Also the staff are already teasing the possibility of a Pike series in an interview- I guess if that ever happens maybe we'll get an actual Trek-ish series.

It was shit.

Braga loves cocaine and Berman loves tits so they got that in spades. Yes, they're sort of horrible but they only fuck things up in the larger strokes.

S1/S2 was very much a "new" trek series but B/B were still caught up in fucking TNG-movie-mode. After catching up to 9/11 later S2 was YET ANOTHER "new" trek, completely breaking the trek mold but the cynical shit was just so outside everyone's range it didn't hit very well.

S4 was godly but you're mistakenly referring to the epilogue as the finale. The end result was 3 separate shows under 1 name though. 2/3 could have been great, a different subset of 2/3 were entirely novel.

I didn't watch a single episode and I most likely will never do. This isn't real Star Trek. Babylon 5 is more Star Trek than this.

The last two episodes of STD were awful... and they were written by the new showrunner. Season 3 is going to be a shit show.

>Season 3 is going to be a shit show
What the fuck do you think the first two were?

You'll watch all of it in the end..

That's not very constructive.

In order to build, you have to be pragmatic about the materials you have on hand. Purposefully blinding yourself because you don't like what you see is "not very constructive."

>sir, you must make everyone pinky promise to never mention Burnham, the infamous mutineer, Discovery, the super powerful black ops ship that helped save the federation during the Klingon War, or its massively convenient instant-teleportation tech ever again
Was that really the best they could come up with?

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You're not better than me.

touché

Tell yourself whatever the hell you'd like. I have no horse in that race.

Being negative isn't cool.

>Control gets on the Discovery
>kills the only white man on the bridge and leaves

What about the families of all the crew members? All the messages sent home about serving on a starship that suddenly doesn't exist and is now a high crime to even mention.

Did they really have a passive aggressive gay guy navigating the intergalactic mushroom web with him being hooked to some weird interface bare chested with clamps on his nipples? Because he was the only one being able to talk to the spores?

it's not about race or gender.

It does.

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At least you can maybe explain that by saying family members wouldn't be told about top-secret tech like the Spore Drive and they are just led to believe they all died when Discovery "blew up" (which is the story Pike and co. stuck to).

But the idea that something as convenient as the Spore Drive just being locked away and never used again makes no sense to me, especially considering how S31 is apparently operating out in the open in this era. Unless you're telling me the spore drive was actually in S31's possession all along and that was how Sloan managed to teleport into Bashir's bedroom all those times.

>time suit interacts with mario kart mushrooms to literally wipe their existence from the timeline before their jump destination

WA LA

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That's not really what happened.

Imagine being this fucking stupid.

According to history, the Discovery was destroyed in an incident caused by Section 31, they didn't black hole it's existence. It's experimental drive that few knew about and could not be replicated anyway, is classified. Burnham and the ships crew are recorded as KIA.

The people only people talk about things never being spoken of openly ever again are Burnhams parents who know of the ships ability and explicit details about the incident. And they say it that way specifically because a moment earlier they pointed out that they are in no way under the Starfleet regulations being invoked to classify the incident.

>Control: "Women. Stop talking."
based

I dunno, it reminded me a lot more of BSG than Trek.

I know the older stuff might be because OOC they only had the tech to do sail and cannon style ship combat INNNN SPAAAACE but having pseudo-fighter wings and flak batteries out of nowhere is really out of tone with Star Trek. Which has been a continuous issue with STD- it just doesn't *fit* right into the universe.

The spore drive is useless and unworkable with just it's specs.

Both the people who created it and the only experts in running it are gone, the only method known to make it viable is both illegal by Federation law and not even possible even if they decided to waive that.

No shit sherlock

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up yours, chomo

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This, 100%. They need someone who knows Star Trek.
They want to do space battles like on BSG but they have no idea of what to do exactly. In a previous episode someone decided that the torpedoes were fired from the nacelles of the Discovery... lol. The inside of the Discovery makes no sense either, it's 10 times bigger on the inside with turbolifts that act like on a roller coaster or something.
The sound design department is so shit too, it's like they're making sound effects for Star Wars instead of Trek, it's too loud and crowded. A shuttle shouldn't make the sound of a pod-racer.

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i think you need to go and re-watch how utterly garbage the BSG was, not even talking aesthetically (which was horrible) but the compositions were an absolute mess

>the compositions were an absolute mess
Only in seasons 3 and 4 when then decided to do everything in-house.

they don't have turbolifts they got a fucking wonkavater

This.

On top of the previous episode of Orville being illogical as fuck too(hurr durr, we acknoledge other moclans as sovereign nation, but original moclans should also let them steall their citizens, cause that's how sovereignity works aparently), this week was a let down for space sci-fi shit.
I just want to scream "ffs you can do better, faggets" to the creators of both shows.
Oh well, at least we are finely getting space shows I guess.

Er, the forward launchers are in the nacelles, it also has one aft launcher

You forgot:
>nanomachine filled villain displays ridiculous teenager emotions

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IMO The Kelpian/Ba'ul episode was the most Trek-ish of this season, and they couldn't even get that 100% right because it was dragged down at the end because of their dumb Red Angel plotline.

They needed more scenes where they really discussed the implications of destroying The Great Balance, or how to negotiate through the Ba'ul's completely-understandable fears. Instead they wasted an interesting new alien concept/situation.

>Saru turns into a cocky face spike shooting weirdo
>following episodes revert him like nothing happened at all
>hides behind chair while WAHMEN save him

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I don't think it was that bad, at least for the time., Whether it holds up in Super Ultra 4K with a magnifying glass in hand is kinda beside the point though.

I'm talking about how the ST capital ships suddenly turned into carrier/battleship hybrids out of fucking nowhere, resulting in a battle that would not have looked out of place in a BSG episode but was incredibly atonal for ST where it's always been capital ships fighting each other before.

Not taking cover really worked out well

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Star Trek battles are dictated by 1) fx capabilities they have available to them 2) plot

How they work regularly changes

CHEST LASER

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Man the Ba'ul were right to be afraid of those fuckers

It's not funny, you guys...

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Imagine being this much of a Fucking faggot

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>The finale suffered from bayformer “wtfisevengoingon” syndrome. Way too much garbage on screen.
I've been thinking about this for a while after watching a thing on Youtube about why it's so hard to even remember what goes on in the Transformer movies. Discovery does a lot of the same things.

*Every shot is framed and every line is delivered as though it is THE. MOST. SIGNIGICANT. THING. EVER. This gives precious little down time to relax between BIG, IMPORTANT MOMENTS so your brain just kind of switches off after a while. In a movie, this means your brain is in neutral and you just go with it. In a one-hour show it's not quite the same, but it still leads to fatigue and makes things ridiculous. Couple this with everything in Discovery being THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER and you exacerbate the problem. There wasn't a border war with the Klingons, there was a desperate life-and-death struggle where several Federation capitals fell, billions died, all bar three Starbases were destroyed and the Solar System itself was under Klingon attack. Discovery doesn't have a slightly better engine, it has the best engine possible. Burnham isn't just competent, she's a virtually omniscient polymath genius who outclasses specialists after moments, has a psychic link to Sarek, is special and beloved to the point it gets exposited on in just about every episode, blah blah blah.
*Visually, there is just a bunch of random shit going on. Characters ae talking? Let's spin the camera around. Setting a scene? SPIN THAT MOTHERFUCKER.
*Speaking of spinning, we need to move. Make the saucer spin! AND THEN MAKE THE SHIP SPIN! YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND BABY LIKE A RECORD ROUNG ROUND ROUND

Ad nauseum ad infinitum.

I would watch the shit out of a Pike show, or a Tilly show, or a Saru show. I'm kinda over the Michael Burnam: most Important and awesome person ever show though.

I throw the Arena episode at you. A human almost on par with a vulcan in heat?

OK.
So, this show is still being called Discovery, of course. In Calypso, the ship's computer tells it was abandoned by the crew. Several people went together with the ship to the future.
The third season will still be about Discovery--in the future where it went to.

I still hope they'll actually address Saru's superpowers next season. He should have been able to mop the floor with Leland if the empress could hold him.

Imagine if they gave all that budget to good writers

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WHAT THE FUCK?!

If they wanted to retcon STD from canon why not do it in S1?!

>Another trek season finale that revolves around time travel

>At this point I’d rather watch paint dry then have to sit through another episode of burned-ham and the faggy bunch.

Here's season 3 then.

youtube.com/watch?v=PLOPygVcaVE

DSC is canon and you can't stop that.

Why don't they just build their ships out of fucking doors.. they seem better than shields at this point.

Also they took control with them to the future, who the fuck wrote this shit.

so since the show is supposedly renewed for a third season and still called Discovery, which is now in the future 900 years ahead, S3 is just going to be Voyager where they are stuck in unknown space, but with Michael Bay Action scenes?

>who the fuck wrote this shit.

And how's your hit TV show coming along, there user?

oh my god this has got to be most retarded comeback argument ever.

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>last episode released on Easter
hmm yes

so?

Thankfully we don't need to, at the term canon in reference to fiction is losing more and more meaning across entertainment due to writer treating narrative cohesion as a polite suggestion from a hated enemy. I don't need to try and reconcile STD with TOS when it makes no real attempt to do so itself.

I wonder if it's intentional, some sort of messianic imagery to be expected.

I don't get it, what was the point on keeping quiet about the whole incident?

So that people stop asking why Spock never talked about his black human sister to Kirk or Bones.

>at the term

He's right though. Every internet genius who think they're smarter than actual writers turns out to advocate idiotic shit that either resolves every situation instantly without any drama or stakes, or the polar opposite, demanding to know why things aren't instantly fucked because of some adherence to their super-logic

It's the absolute worst and lowest form of 'criticism'

Why does Michael Burnham hate moclans so much? Is it because they remind her of Klingons?

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The sphere data can never be destroyed, making sure that history records it as gone means nothing can ever seek it out, no matter how far or how long it takes to do so

go fuck yourself, user.

Lol

TONIGHT WE DINE IN VALHALLA!

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get owned bitch

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>and no one will ever talk about discovery or the crew again
I dunno if this is better or worse than "it was all a dream"

Have people here gotten meaner lately?

Canon is the new fascist, a meaningless snarl word.

Fanfiction can't be canon.

Your salty tears are powerless.

>the term canon in reference to fiction is losing more and more meaning across entertainment due to writer treating narrative cohesion as a polite suggestion from a hated enemy.

That is, unambiguously, 100% the correct way to treat canon and continuity.

Canon and continuity should be used to give a story added depth or context. If it gets in the way of telling a story or holds something back? It should be sent straight to the trash.

>If it gets in the way of telling a story or holds something back? It should be sent straight to the trash.
get out

>You can't say its bad unless you can do better
what kind of fucking retarded view is this?

He's literally sick.

Kurtzman you fucking hack, jump from the closest window.

>The third season will still be about Discovery--in the future where it went to.
We finally get that Post-Nemesis series, it's the Disco Crew reforming Starfleet in the 29th Century. Fucking kill me.

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Thought so.

fag

No, it's the toxic Discovery culture.

But control was destroyed by Michelle Yeoh.

Or are you referring to potential threats besides control? If so there is nothing stopping Discovery from taking a pause after Leland is killed and finding a way to remote pilot the ship into the wormhole and handing the time travel suit, time crystal and spore drive back to the Federation as well as preventing very experienced Starfleet personnel from sacrificing themselves.

>DSC is canon
It's not.

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Disc is actually pretty progressive.

Les Moonves is a rapist.

This is a show made by a rapist.

Though I enjoy your warm tears, they are ultimately impotent.

based and incelpilled

>Or are you referring to potential threats besides control?

Yeah. The Control we know wouldn't have been the only cause of the apocalypse, far from it since Mom Burnham spent twenty years altering history over and over and still failed to halt it.

Their conclusion was for the future to be averted the data had to cease existing in the present time entirely, where no combination of events could cause it to trigger the extinction future again.

>CBS can't meme

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based and redpilled

I’m calling it.

Discovery will return to the canon main timeline after the events of Undiscovered Country / The Generations Prologue. This will allow the show to still exist in canon while explaining why Spock never mentions Michael to Kirk.

It won’t explain why Sarek/Picard don’t mention her in TNG but fuck it at this point.

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>fuck it at this point
lazy and loweffortpilled

This is true. Shills and actual Discovery fans if they exist are mad as fuck that people like the Orville, but don't consider Discovery to be a true Star Trek. I'm not sure what the fuck they expected.

Even if Discovery never comes back you can’t explain why Picard doesn’t mention Michael when he’s possessed by Sarek in that TNG episode.

Unless Sarek did some crazy Vulcan Katra shit to make himself forget about his adopted daughter.

Wait but they killed Control.
Why do they need throw the Data into the future after that?
Is this some "Muh humanity shouldnt have all this knowledge" self-hatred meme?
Chucking Control into the Delta quadrant or some shit to become this timelines Borg would have made more fucking sense

I am angry.
Angry about space

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link the episode

Sarek had long made his peace with his daughter, Spock was a life-long open wound

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarek_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

Absolutely correct. Also, remember when he was still in charge and he presented some CG pf the Discovery and it was completely shit?

A lot of people don't talk about their family.

Not what I asked.

To be fair, they always said that initial Discovery design wasn't final

Also wasn’t established previously that Ash Tyler needs to stay dead so the Klingon Empire devolve into chaos?

Why is he onboard a Klingon ship full of witnesses?

What did you ask? You want the Discovery episode linked? I can’t do that, it just came out.

You are dismissed.

And Spock says the time crystal only shows a possible future that isn’t set in stone which conflicts with the Pike episode on the Klingon planet.

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what a mess

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I liked the latest ep.

That first CG was just stubby and squat

Would have had some hella bad angles compared to the final one

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The production values are top notch. The actors are meh but passable. Too bad the plots are utter bullshit. There's a few good ideas sprinkled over a mountain of shit. It's sad sci-fi has been reduced to this.

They are setting up for a spin-off right?

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>Too bad the plots are utter bullshit.
Be specific. We're not in grade-school.

Like, the entire fucking thing from the first episode on.

You're being childish.

You failed the simplest test. Stay after class.

Leave him alone, at least he's generating traffic.

Why did they rip off the plot of twelve monkeys? even get the same actress.

Not him but the last episode, why did they go 950 years into the future when Control was killed? It's just sloppy writing.

who?

STD

season 2 is basically a rip off of season 4 of 12 monkeys

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she is a female of their species.

Literally answered multiple times in this thread and the show itself

Who?

Don't lie, that's not cool.

also wasnt she supossed to be leath? theres an episode with that title where she is introduced in season 1 too

We were promised more trek by everyone involved with the show.
>season 2 will be different!
Nope. We got more of the same, plus Shitting on beloved characters

Wrong.

if you think TOS is feminist you havent watched TOS

>be pol
>everyone says hi to you wherever you go

>be you on the other hand
>too bad nobody ever says hi to you at all

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This is modernization done right. The bridge looks like the ToS version, but with a bunch of fancy experimental stuff and extra aesthetic gubins that were stripped off during wartime, so this is more or less the Enterprise when it was doing peacetime tours a-la early TNG. Too bad the exterior is ugly brown refit connie.

Why was the startfleet interrogation so weird.
It was shot like we were supposed to care or be curious who the interviewer was, or like it was gonna be a big reveal.
Or was it just done to imply "ooo spooky Sec31 man"

T. /Pol/

I thought it was implied the interviewer was Control / Lealand?

>Too bad the exterior is ugly brown refit connie.

wtf

I told you... season 3 is the picard series. doesnt that make sense now? doesnt it all fucking make sense now?

where?
The mouth-shot every 10 seconds?

too much space. whats with the unused space on the side, its like a fucking stage. are they planning on having live music?

also, make this a show not std.

an ominious metal gear solid style reveal at the end of that scene would have been great.

thanks... MR PRESIDENT. (pan around and trumps face is revealed on the bald man)

>reflective surfaces
Going for the RTX crowd

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Starfleet admirals are dicks by default unless they're exceptions like Cornwell.

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>implying Trump will ever go bald

The producers said Season 2 would 'line up' everything they've done with canon - so why do all the Klingons still look nothing like they do in TOS?

i dont get this.

>starfleet is meant to be good.
>every admiral a war criminal and the other a woman

Who cares nerd

They look like they should as per the TOS movies and TNG

Nobody gives a shit about the blackface klangots

I would like to discuss real star trek now.

>Durr, visual continuity doesn't matter!
For fuck's sake, have some integrity, men.

>visual continuity

You do realise the Enterprise looks completely different in the TOS films to the show, right? Not to mention the uniforms and the actors waistlines.

I can't uphold the integrity, im not the lazy fucks running this show, but i can just simply not give a fuck

You better start arguing that TNG is non canon then

Also why did the Klingons magically turn into Romulans?

Function over form, and it being so compressed like the old version isn't a good thing

Most of the shows sets were lightly redesigned in S2 because the designs in S1 didn't account for how they had to shoot scenes in them

I thought it was odd they didn't end with another piece of fanservice like the Enterprise reveal from Season 1. I mean I wasn't expecting Picard to be lurking in the background, but I was expecting something. I hope this points towards them being done with Discovery at least how it was done for these two seasons.

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producers just say this kind of shit. see:doctor who

turns out you didnt watch TNG or DS9, as they acknowledge, show and give a reason for TOS klingons looking more human.

Honestly it would have been easy to say that more "spy" klingons like ash had been made because they show up in TOS, fully human klingon spies alongside non human but still human looking klingons (see: the trouble with tribbles)

They could have just said whatever was used to make spies infected a lot of the other klingons and made them look more human. this would line up with the DS9 and TNG explanations.

Ash Tyler is officially the first Klingon to serve in Starfleet. How does this make you feel Yea Forums?

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Atleast he's not an arab

>looking like the actual TOS enterprise bridge isnt a good thing
yes it is dumbass lol

>most were designed to have more space
great, to make it easier for the film crew and worse for the audience.

TNG does not reference the old appearance in any way

DS9 has a joke episode where the only acknowledgement of it is a literal joke

Enterprise's retcon explanation episodes about it are fucking lame

But TNG doesn't suck

the leaker that said discovery / std season 3 is the picard show seems to have been correct.

>easier for the film crew and worse for the audience.

It looks great.

So does Pike end up all fucked up as he's supposed to?

You didn't have to say it like that.

>joke episode
wtf sounds like you just disregard episodes cause theyre not grimdark enough for you.
>enterprise episodes that proved it were lame
so episodes you dont like and that disprove what you said dont count, got it.

>creators intended klingons to be trump supporters not russians this time around
>turns out they were muslims/arabs instead

you couldnt even begin to describe the stupidity of the writers on std

Pike's accident is still about a decade away

I think disc is improving

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it doesnt look anything like the original bridge mainly because of all that weird empty space. it'd be one thing if they didnt show it. it doesnt look realistic or like the original. it literally looks like space to put cameras.

lmao

I think you mean STD

Imagine being this desperately contrarian

He can talk as he likes, dude.

>leaker predicted the ending of this show and several plot points down to episode numbers
>leaker got nothing wrong so far
>finale seems to suggest leaker was right about season 3 of std being the picard show was right too.

lmao all you want, tard.

>tard

Not that guy but let me get this straight. Instead of a Picard show what we are getting is Picard appearing in Discovery S3 Pike-style?

Nice trips

I'm not sure what your argument here is.

I don't even watch startrek

Also the first thing the klingorcs did in the pilot was to destroy the USS Europa.
Who knew that Fuller was red pilled?

oh is that a naughty word? can't use that one?

If I understand correctly season 3 may just follow picard from the get go, Picard isn't working for starfleet but has a new ship and crew and they encounter discovery.

It doesnt sound great but that was the leak I think?

I sometimes wonder if there are redpilled writers responsible, jewish protocol pilled writers giving messages to fellow club members by inserting messages like this or if the universe just plays tricks on the lefty writers by inserting accidental redpills into their writing.

Picard show takes place in 2399

Discovery S3 takes place in 3187

You're being disrespectful.

who knows how it works but it seems to line up.

I'm really hungry and I get grumpy.

That's not an excuse to lash out at other people.

Where are the fun posters?

Sorry

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I'm fun.

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Very well.

prove it

I don't think you are.

I'll post my dick if it helps.

I meant Valley Forge and Bashirfaggot, but okay.

I knew you weren't fun or interesting.

bashirfaggot is the only good commie

Who is Bashirfaggot?

There will never been 1:1 visual consistency with a show like DSC, but with the Klingons, they didn't even make an effort. They went out of their way to fuck with it.

Fair enough.

Not being visually consistent doesn't mean you're not 'canon'. TNG is fine, more or less, in that sense.

Is it a crime if Barclay hurts little kids on the holodeck?

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Some tripfag slut who calls people chomos, argues with herself about Marx, and pretends to be her "stalker" posting pictures of herself so she can get sympathy (you)s. She used to be a big deal a couple months ago but rarely posts here anymore.

Why was O'Brien demoted?

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What's chomos?

SHE? wtf you are surely trolling

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was he?
I enjoy Barclay memes so much that i told my A.I all about Barcley. Unfortunately now it calls me Barcley.

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>Barcley
go back

I don't know, some meme she's been forcing like her ya bla x posts. Pretty sure sure she calls them "personas."

It identifies as a woman, though she lacks any feminine grace. Most likely mtf post-op.

It's quite good, actually.

B isn't the chomo-poster, you gyno boob

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Maybe if you're a retarded nigger.

burnham

I have never seen the value in learning how to spell characters names correctly.

Why would a woman call themselves bashirFAGGOT? If they a tranny I would feel more comfortable sticking to logic and reality and calling him a him unless he personally asks me to call him something else.

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>Bashirfaggot stops posting
>anons stop calling each other chomos
>anons stop posting ya blaaaa x
>anons stop posting her pictures
pay attention, dumb pakled

>ya blaaaa x
whats that?

It’s okay. Orville is better. I think the reason people hate on this show is because the paid shills are obvious and insulting. I miss when they used to post std fanart though lol

>her
Again. If you have pictures of them surely you know that it’s not a woman

bash is a girl

Did anyone in STD ever mention how fucking dumb Control wanting sentience is.

I don't save pictures of it and it's easier to refer to it as a "she." We all know it has an axe wound and will never be a real woman but it's easier to go along with it so we don't have this conversation every single time.

sycopath

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Okay

Not Okay

How can a girl be a faggot?

Anyone can be a faggot. Just look at you.

At its core, Star Trek is about tolerance and understanding.

Wanting true sentience isn't dumb and also not the entire problem. The other part was the data would give it such a vast volume of knowledge it would become what amounted to all-knowing

VF is more of a tranny than BF

s n a p

Whats number ones name?

I agree but I’m not sure how that relates to my question. A girl can’t be a “faggot” and the tripfag calls themselves a faggot.

I really hope they didn’t get lured in by that tranny predator discord

>Wanting true sentience isn't dumb
It fucking is when you do nothing but show that you have it.

The difference is VF is a passable tranny and is usually on-topic.

Una

Control itself said it wasn't really, it was just attempting to pass for it with mixed success

It got caught out more than once for being too Beep Boop

>VF is usually on-topic.
No

link or stink

>Una
link

Link or stink what?

pic of vf

No one has any

Pike says it.

I don’t think control wanted sentience. I think it can’t want anything if its not sentient. I think control was simply a program and not alive in any way. It was just a powerful program, an algorithm that was working to be more efficient at what it had already done by sending itself back in time and eating more data earlier.

Just being back in time it could have merged with its younger self though and already have had a significant advantage over the original timeline’s control program. Thing is it’s actions in coming back to the past to improve efficiency led to its death

Dont post peoples pics here. Also that looks shopped as fuck. Notice there are no trannies in trek? Cause they cured gender disphoria

>Does a bunch of shit that shows it's sentient
>Has the desire and want to be sentient
>Only pretending to be it
This show has such shit writing

stop that

Trannys always shop pics of themselves.

Clearly you've never pondered the question of whether passing the Turing Test means something is legitimately intelligent and freely thinking, or just something that has merely learned enough to pass the test.

I snort dismissively in your general direction.