Why didn't the camera crew intervene?

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not an argument

>never-before-filmed rare leopard mating
>censor the penetration
>attenbourough: "due to warming temperatures, what was once a passion-locked mating ritual that lasted hours has now been reduced to just a mere second of intimate contact. If temperatures continue to rise as they have, scientists estimate by 2023, the male leopard may not be able to succeed in mating at all due to premature warming of the testes. The future of these majestic animals is uncertain if humans don't take drastic steps in stopping climate change"

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why would a child be walking in the desert vs why would an animal with behavioral instincts we will possibly never understand walk into the dessert?

Climate change is meant to demoralize and terrorize the general population so they will do anything you want to them.

Can I kek or is this actually a line from Cuckenborough's shitshow?

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He wasn't in the flight plan, idiot

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Who gives a fuck about some chad cat not bringing the load. My ankles are so fat my socks leave indents on my skin. I got real problems.

Do not have children.

based truther

attenborough is based though

>Sir David Attenborough has attacked the idea of sending food aid to countries enduring famine as “barmy” and has urged for more debate about population control, it has been reported.

Would elephants have intervened?

Its not that the elephant walked into the desert, its the fact that its a baby calf who got lost from its herd and walked in the opposite direction where there is no water.

Elephants are intelligent and can live until they're 70. Does the argument of letting ''nature take its course'' apply here when the camera crew can easily save it as they have the location of the herd?

You know that webm of the walruses falling off of cliffs due to overcrowing? Well, here's the supposed "overcrowded" island. Turns out the walruses are just retarded and voluntarily jumped off a cliff instead of just going around the way the came.

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to people shitting on Attenborough, ask yourself this, exactly what does he have to gain from presenting falsehoods about climate change?

He's 90, wealthy and respected, he's just about the person on this planet least affected by climate change, he could say nothing about it and still experience zero loss in quality of life.

They would have survived the jump if it was on soft snow.
Check-mate climate deniers.

>and can live until they're 70
They can't though, they only have 3 set of teeth and they typically wear down by 30. Mature elephants literally starve to death.

I have 2 already incel

yes because you're not taking into account the death or survival that that elephant would have on the ecosystem and it is fact that a policy of no involvement by humans is preferable to one of involvement which inevitably leads to some mistake when there is an unforeseen consequences to our actions. Nature can handle its own fuck ups, it can't handle its own and our on top of that

imprisonment for disrupting nature

>they only have 3 set of teeth and they typically wear down by 30. Mature elephants literally starve to death

why dont they just eat soup

The filmmakers drones spooked the fucking animals

that elephant weighs several hundred kg, without specialized equipment they don't have the means to actually get it to it's herd

because the eagles didn't carry them to Mt. Soup

professional dicks

b-b-b-based

depends on the race I guess

t. mad hippo

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And do what? They are a film crew not fucking vets. You're like the dumb bitch in every video screaming "someone help him"

Maybe that elephant was retarded like Herzog's penguin. Say they help turn it around once, what happens if it wanders off again the next day? How long are you supposed to help a wild animal like that

I dunno man but it's clear that show was being very dishonest. youtube.com/watch?v=0OV5Qmf0jp4

That thinking is a threat to our species as a whole so stop keeping up the appearance of caring for them and actually think

damn I though hippos were already bretty big

>they're overcrowding cause no ice
>ya but look at all that open space over there
>ya but their herd animals they don't want to be on their own

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For the same reason any other old person who's already famous, wealthy, influential and already has the means to live a comfortable life 20 times over, would run a campaign to gain X political position or avoid retiring to keep his multi-national company running.

Specialized equipment? All they need is a pick up truck. Its not a full grown elephant.

checked
>just turn off your brain bro

hm who to believe, literal who conspiracy theorist youtuber or sir David Attenborough

he doesn't think he's lying

Buy bigger socks

Humans lose direction and gets lost in the wild every single day as well, at least give the baby calf a chance to learn from its mistakes.

I wouldn't intervene.
>but muh trolley problem
What problem? It's just the natural course of that creatures life and death. If he dies, he dies.

and how do you get a pick up truck in the middle of the desert, get the baby elephant inside of it, keep it still enough for the journey it doesn't hurt itself significantly and then get it out without issue?

To be fair, if there was ice they wouldn't have to swim all the way out to this goddamn little rock. But yeah, it's disingenuous because the doc literally says "overcrowding" and has shots of the walruses smothering each other, but they never show a full shot of the island which is largely empty. The walruses are just retarded and not designed for climbing on land, nothing anyone can do about that.

ever heard of religious people, user? they do shit like this for stupid, wrong ideas all the time. literally killing themselves over it too, and have been doing so for thousands of years.

people doing stupid shit for stupid reasons ain't new.

>just retarded and not designed for climbing on land, nothing anyone can do about that.
could have enough ice for them to not have to climb on land

Easy, they pick up their phone and call for assistance. Tranquilize the calf and reunite it with the herd.

did't he also say he believes in bigfoot?

he's just a guy on TV dude. may as well believe chris evans can fly or whatever it is captain america does

elephants are ludicrously large, they are the only really big land animal on earth

here's a hint for you
wealthy old religious leaders don't actually believe in their religions, they abuse the position for power and status

Without knowing who started this fight, I feel safe still blaming the hippo.

>literal who conspiracy theorist youtuber

He doesn't pedal conspiracy and he cites zoologists and others in the know. He's also as big as the Young Turks in viewership. Sorry the reality of political aligned corporate media is hard to swallow man.

nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/08/explore-through-the-lens-starving-polar-bear-photo/

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The exact same thing happens on ice. The only difference is it's closer to their hunting habitat.

cocky elephant bastards. I bet I could take one, no problem

>Tranquilize the calf
yes, tranquilize a panicked, starving young elephant
you know the exact precise dose to do that right? it dies if you don't

the bigger they are the harder they fall m8

>everybody thinks exactly the same stuff as me
get tested user

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there's cats with 500 times his subscribers and 10,000 times his views

That is a male teenage african elephant. They go on a testosterone fueled rage because they can't get sex. It's literally incel rage

t. manlet

Is this board pro or anti elephants?

Meanwhile hippos attack everything in their perimeter all the year without a break.

there's plenty of examples of known atheist bishops
and that's just the ones that actually came and admitted it

I'll leave it to the experts to figure out the right dose, i don't see how that is the main issue here. It will die if you don't intervene.

EIDF
give me that ivory, peanut boy

>yes all the climate change lobby has all the power in the world with all their big shot documentary makers spending millions trying to subvert our minds
>but industry leaders and oil magnates are 100% trustworthy, they would never try to cover up anything costing them money

just a reminder that in the 50's there were suddenly plenty of "studies" and "doctors" saying that smoking was 100% healthy and folks saying otherwise were just trying to destroy an all american industry

Yes and the largest YouTuber in terms of revenue is a kid named Ryan. Doesn't mean shit in the context of my rejection of the 'a literal who's statement.

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so you need an expert in position
with specialized equipment because loading a weak calf into a pickup truck is guaranteed to end in failure
and you need it right now in the middle of the desert

starts to sound like a very complex operation doesn't it?

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I bet we are fucking up our environment but that doesn't make Climate '''science''' not complete fucking garbage

30,000 views is indeed a literal who when it comes to youtube

>If a human child walked the wrong way in the desert, would they have intervened or let nature take its course?
Is the desert located in a country with Good Samaritan laws?

Why do we have to intervene with nature?

kind of hilarious how people are saying they're evil for not saving one young elephant because they're intelligent
and at the same time they still use plastics that demonstratively kill hundreds of young whales

does this horse have no name?

No, i'm saying neither me or you have ever used a tranquilizer before and that the veterinarian or animal rescue group has way more knowledge about the dosage required than we do.

I like how the little hippo nigga is like 'shiiiet mate you on your own I'm finna split'

we are currently in the middle of a major extinction level event and humanity is the only factor that sets our time apart from the previous epochs
that's not opinion, that's cold hard fact

>plastics
Get fucked cunt

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>Does the argument of letting ''nature take its course'' apply here when the camera crew can easily save it as they have the location of the herd?

If the camera crews feed every animal that can't take care of itself, guess what happens to the herd when the camera crew leaves?

I don't understand why intelligence should be the basis of morality.

Aesthetic

>we are currently in the middle of a major extinction
You retards have been saying that since the 70s. Besides even if it's true what the fuck are you expecting us to do when China doesn't give a fuck about the environment

Cope harder while you awkwardly attempt to fellate your precious film maker.

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>to people shitting on Attenborough

Who the fuck is shitting on Attenborough the cunts.

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based inner city ebonics poster

a "vet" couldn't properly tranquilize that elephant to save his life, you'd need a specialist in large mammal anesthetics, and given the circumstances he need extensive experience with elephants

you have any idea just how dangerous anesthetics are? Even on healthy consenting adult humans it takes specialized equipment, a detailed medical history and a trained specialist present to make it safe

Not even the definition of 'extinction level events' is a cold hard fact you credulous bugman

>blaming a niger
not very woke of you user

>You retards have been saying that since the 70s
because it was true in the 70's, it was true in the 90's and it's still true right now
the rate of extinction has not slowed down in the slightest

No one must intervene. This is what nature is and if you can't take it then you will fall victim to nature like the elephant

There are frozen deserts too.

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Who cares, biomass is way up.

t. Underage or brainlet.

Even if you're right the way you write scream 'I heard someone I respect say this and now I'm trying to get respect from others'

>You retards have been saying that since the 70s
Can you point to some species that went extinct in the 1970s but came back to life?

>open site
>PLEASE STOP USING ADBLOCK I NEED IT TO LIVE I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK

fantastic hero there

>It will die if you don't intervene.
So what?

>mate
>inner city

Probably a larping britbong. 'finna split' was fairly accurate though, I'll give him that.

honestly I feel pretty good given you've been reduced to ad hominem

I only care about humans

Because they're meant to let nature take its course. A BBC film crew did help out some stuck penguins though by digging little steps.

youtube.com/watch?v=HMNhgfY44Jw

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Where is pröööh poster?

Most plastic waste from western countries gets exported to third world shitholes that have zero standards. People who think recycling does anything but shift the problem to someone else are retards

Does that apply to humans getting lost in the wild too? Should we not search for them or help them?

The camera crew know the location of the herd, and they know the location of the calf. They have every opportunity to reunite the baby calf with its herd, but instead decides to let it die for tv entertainment. Its a highly intelligent animal, and they're an endangered species. Do you know how many animal groups would rush to help them if they just called someone?

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>expecting academic discourse without non ad hominem attacks in a fucking bait threat about elephants
>doesn't deny being underage

Go back to the r-site, seriously

>it's the west's fault niggers and chinks have no standards
Dilate

the issue with global warming is that it's an uncomfortable thought, the idea that our planet is not immutable and that we have a very real effect on it
it takes decades, sometimes even hundreds of years for humanity to accept concepts like that, same thing with heliocentrism or evolution
not to mention that the people most capable of averting it, are the same people who are least affected by it

going from ad hominem to defending the concept of ad hominem attacks
just makes me feel all that much better

>not realizing the people that own big oil also own air/solar power

There’s money in everything lad, they’re not dumb, just waiting to eek out every last dollar before swapping

solar also isn't particularly sustainable at that, manufacturing process is still way to dirty and requires way to many rare materials
on the other hand we do need to bridge our energy requirements until we get fusion going, which is basically the only long term solution to our energy problems

>because it was true in the 70's, it was true in the 90's and it's still true right now
Except that if they were right in the 70s we would have all burned alive at least 20 years ago.
Reality is that we indeed impact on the climate, but since the issue has been acknowledged shit has actually been done to fix it, and the deadline is progressively being postponed, despite what that retarded kid Greta or whatever she's called might say.
Also, as someone else here said, why don't they go and put a gun on every chink's head, considering they are the biggest plague to ever affect the planet, humanity, and even themselves, instead of moralising the average Joe in western society?
And even then, literally everything you do pollutes. If you drive a car, I you don't recycle everything (and this changes from country to country), if you take a shit and there's a leak in the sewer, if you use fucking soap to wash your hands, you are polluting. And even considering all that the pollution created by major players like some industries or governments that give no fucks about their waste makes whatever pollution the population produces pale in comparison.
Trying to guilty trap us viewers is honestly pathetic.

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People accept it just fine, they just don't care and refuse to sacrifice their own futures and lifestyle. Fishing and hunting, for example, is well understood to impact the ecosystem regardless of your stance on climate change. Literally no on will deny that netting an entire river will catastrophically reduce future fish stocks. But then some don't care and did do just that until regulations were forced on them. The problem is, other things such as global warming are more nuanced and caused and effect aren't so localized so it's harder to attribute to any one given action.
>not to mention that the people most capable of averting it, are the same people who are least affected by it
Who and what? The most capable people of averting it are the one's currently causing it, e.g. the massive populations in China, India, Nigeria, Brazil, Indonesia. Then you have the countless small-but-overpopulated countries who're destroying their own environment and contributing globally? What can we in the West do against a multi-billion total population catching up economically? Nothing, and yet the burden is placed on us.

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we're taking measures, but they are not sufficient
every 10 years we are postponing the deadline by 5, eventually we will pass it
also doesn't help that some countries which had been doing good measures are actually stepping back from them (USA, Brazil etc) which further shortens the timespan

also the post you're referring to wasn't in general response to climate change but rather rate of extinction, and unfortunately the rate of extinction among reptiles, amphibians and marine life in general has not slowed down
we're saving some large high profile mammals sure but even then there's significant habitat reduction

People who say finna dont say mate you fucking foreign slime.

the USA was taking measures before the previous election and as a major economic power it was capable of influencing the true problem nations
EU was and still is taking measures but unfortunately due to the internal division it's not as effective without US backup
and in China, remember there's very little liberty, all the decision making is made by the select group of extremely wealthy ruling elite who are indeed among those least affected. Average Chinese is going to be affected but they can't do anything

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That's exactly why all land and even oceans should be privatised.

privatization would harm the environment even more
you can't trust business men to not sell rhino horn for 10 times the price of gold dust

Fuck off. All these government programs to protect the environment are nothing more than a waste of time. It's just giving money to virtue signalling bureaucrats so they can complain even more and demand more money

:D

Anti-elephant. Fuck those long nose shits.

People should stop pretending the world will end because of us in 15 years. Acid rains haven't been a thing for decades now, so we're a actually capable of fixing shit. And as far as I know the ozone hole is shrinking.
About those countries the same I said for China applies, why should us feel guilty for governments not giving a fuck? I would like to see some of these activists go in places where there's ACTUAL pollution and see how they are received.

Regarding the animals, shit sucks, but I assume preventing small animals' extinction is much harder than big ones'.

>privatization would harm the environment even more
Earth would be less polluted if everything was privatised
>sell rhino horn for 10 times the price of gold dust
Since there's a market demand for rhinos with horns (you) there will be businessmen who own such rhinos

fuck you to mate, government programs are the only things slowing down our impact
the only reason you hate government programs is because you'd rather have the earth burn 10 years after you die than pay 0.1% more taxes

You don't interfere with nature.

humans are part of nature

You dont interfere with nature, you observe it. It is not our place to interfere.

>Acid rains haven't been a thing for decades now, so we're a actually capable of fixing shit. And as far as I know the ozone hole is shrinking.
both of those because of massive international measures directly attacking the cause of the problem
the fact that they worked is not a reason to do less ITS A REASON TO DO MORE

Yeah I don't think heavy cargo lifting helicopters grow on trees.

You're fucking retarded.

How are we supposed to eat if we can't interfere with nature?

>He's also as big as the Young Turks in viewership
Literal who

It's a soi-core channel for people who like John Oliver

bird nests don't grow on trees either, they are bird made

why didn’t the photographer intervene?

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>government programs are the only things slowing down our impact
They're hurting the environment by demanding the use of green energy which turns out isn't so green afterall.
>pay 0.1% more taxes
The taxes and regulations affect everyone. Companies earn less and therefore and less likely to invest in R&D. Consumers earn less and therefore are less likely to buy new products. Also companies are spending money lobbying now instead of spending them for the betterment of their own products

>citing e-celebs as your source

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Why didn't the crew intervene?

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what webm?

Well that explains why you know them

yes I'm sure the climate change lobby has anything on the oil lobby or automobile lobby

oh and I'm sure that windmills are so much more damaging than unfiltered coal plants

humans aren't nature

This. Humans are God made.

Hit me up with that proof of solar energy being less green than oil

>Acid rains haven't been a thing for decades now, so we're a actually capable of fixing shit. And as far as I know the ozone hole is shrinking.
So what you're saying is that acknowledging the problem and actively working to fix it is better than denying that the problem exists?

The point is that they would never be inclined to climb the rock to escape overcrowding had there been ice for them to stay on. If you weren't as fucking dumb as you purport these walruses to be you'd see that.

The construction of solar panels harms the environment

More than oil?

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>muh climate change
>muh robots
>muh overpopulation
>muh superbug
Upper middle class faggots with too much free time

What troubles you instead user

bears

NATURAL FUCKING SELECTION

THE CLIMATE HAS CHANGED.

ADAPT OR DIE.

YOURE LITERALLY WATCHING EVOLUTION IN PROGRESS AND LIMP WRISTED FAGGOT LIBERALS CRY ABOUT HOW IT'S HAPPENING.

>yes, there's never been any proof whatsoever of man-made climate change being real but let's believe it because le british old fart said it in his animal fantasy stories

Fair enough

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>earth climate is part of evolution
American education everybody.

Prime Directive

And they wouldn't have to climb the rock if they had swam to the other side of the of the island.

It is.

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Attenborough:
>In recent years, climate change has spelled disaster for chinstrap penguins. Filmed for the very first time by our team is unquestionable proof of the effect humans have on the climate. Normally, these penguins have only one natural predator, the leopard seal. On land they rarely have to defend themselves and their chicks against predation. But with the melting of large swaths of sea ice, the natural range of the giant petrel has artificially grown to overlap that of the penguin, thanks to man-made climate change. The penguins have no defense against the petrels.
>*somber orchestral music blaring intermixed with sounds of birds shrieking and a factory in the distance polluting*
>Devastatingly, its mate can only watch as the penguin is pulled apart mercilessly. It's unable to comprehend the petrels as predators because it has only evolved to view leopard seals as major predators. Not shown here but captured off camera, the penguin's mate at one point took part in feeding alongside the petrels. This unusual cannibalistic behavior is thought to be caused by starvation in part to its ever-dwindling prey, krill. Climate change has reduced the once abundant krill to small isolated pockets which barely sustain penguin populations. Penguins bond and mate for life.

From wikipedia:
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinstrap_penguin
>The chinstrap penguin is primarily threatened by climate change.
Humans caused this. How can you live with yourself and your rabid consumerism knowing full well you're contributing to climate change and its consequences? There's no place for deniers, change has to be made now, before it's too late.

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It is, though.

is that you colbert?

Why are animals so freaking evil, lads?

Evolution is reacting to rapid climate but rapid climate change isn't a part of natural evolution. If it were, there'd be no mass extinction events at all.

probably

There have been a bunch of mass extinctions that forced life to evolve, user. If there hadn't been we'd probably all still just be trees or something.

it's a fucking elephant do you expect them wrangle it.

Why is that penguin just sitting there watching is he a cuck?

It's not even close to oil and coal.
Basically any problem we have currently is small compared to global warming and overpopulation(and the fast dying out of animals caused by these two).
And current green energy is helping to make one these problems much smaller.

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curiosity. wouldn't you stay and watch if some people started eating someone else?

It says right there in the post, the penguin hasn't evolved to view petrels as predators.

There are less than 700,000 elephants left in the world. Might sound a lot to you, but they're being hunted for their tusks and killed. They're highly intelligent animals and can live up to 70 years.

The cameramen filming knew the location of the herd, they could have contacted anyone and they would have received help to reunite the calf with the rest of the herd, but instead they let it die for tv entertainment.

Good, animals that can't hack it should die. You should want elephants that can live without you having to hold their hands all the time.

He had a date with a penguin.

Well "life" doesn't evolve, single species do. The fact that life wasn't completely wiped out already is more thanks to lucky circumstance than evolution though it depends on which mass extinction event we're talking about here. But yes I'm glad we're not trees anymore too, there wouldn't be any memes if we were.

>It's unable to comprehend the petrels as predators because it has only evolved to view leopard seals as major predators
jesus. talk about literally too stupid to live

You realize some things are beyond evolution? If humans can get lost, then a baby elephant calf can get lost from its herd and lose direction.

Sauce?

>Well "life" doesn't evolve, single species do.
Are you joking?

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And they got lost because they are shit put together. Now there will be fewer shit put together individuals in the next gen.

Here's one, it's from Our Planet, the new Netflix Planet Earth ripoff.
And walruses are too stupid to know not to walk off a cliff.

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We didn't fix them though. We just stopped doing things which were creating these problems and nature solved them.
In case of global warming co2 won't magically become coal again(at least not until hundreds of thousands years pass). And we are close to tipping point(actually I am not sure if anyone in scientific society believes we will stop before it).
After it there will never be coming back unless we find something really smart to reverse it(this might never happen, and we are working with these problem for years and we haven't found even one good hipothetical solution).
Ozone layer and acid rains were nothing compared to global warming and these could have been solved easily.

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putting all species into one basket is retarded user c'mon

I don't think you understand how it works.

>Niger River polluting the oceans

What a surprise!

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meh big deal worst that's gonna happen is a nuclear war over resources or something. may end us all but not at the hands of mother nature.

only way climate change poses any existential danger is if we freak out too much about it and start killing each other

>sees walrus below
>instead of going around the way it climbed up, decides to jump like a retard
>this is our fault

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It's not going to end for a long, long time, but it's going to be a lot less comfortable... If it's any consolation to you, the 2nd and 3d world will get fucked so much harder than us wealthy Westerners in our safe little bubbles.

point out one (1) thing I wrote that was wrong

>If he dies, he dies.
I wish we treated non-whites and poor people like this. The world would be a much nicer place if they all died off.

Why didn't the camera crew trip the giraffe

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They're not making a documentary about a human child.

False. The majority of plastic pollution in those countries is domestic. If you're seriously going to claim 1.3 billion Indians don't contribute any waste and its all from the West, you're a lie and retarded.

>rapid climate change isn't a part of natural evolution
Climate always changes. Saying that rapid climate change isn't a part of of evolution is more than a bit arbitrary. The time span in which climate changes is irrelevant, it leads to the same thing, those who can't cope with the climate change will die.

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>those who can't cope with the climate change will die.
e.g. humans

I unironically agree with this.

it kinda sucks that they go out and film thousands of hours of animal in the wild and have to create a narrative out of it to make it commercially viable to the point where it starts to blur the line between entertainment and lying

if the ice was melting wouldn't the walrus population fall?

You just described a mass extinction event, which is what everyone is trying to prevent or at least slow down.

But he's right. The planet's climate has been changing for millions of years. It's in constant change.

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I can name many things. You're not taking into account the fact that they're dwindling in numbers, the fact that evolution takes a very long time, and that some things does not impact evolution. If you were to fall down a hole in the forest, whether i decide to help you or leave you to die is not going to affect human evolution.

I really doubt this is true.

>The planet's climate has been changing for millions of years.
As rapidly as it is today?

It's true, if you look closely the cat's penis is clearly edited out.

that's what you get by being dumb

check em

I can take over where "male" leopards will fail.

>literally eating ass

Can you meet me halfway, right at the borderline is where I'm gonna wait, for you

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Fight me you long ass bitch.

I'll be looking out, every day

The people who live near the equator might be fucked but everyone else will be fine while some will even be better of than before.
There's no mass extinction going on.

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Is a white or black child?

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what race and sexual orientation is the child?

Hearing the average white middle class male speak on the environment is exactly what convinced me that mankind must be destroyed utterly.

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There will be if we keep accelerating

Each of these was a giant extinction event user.
This is exactly what we don't want and what generally makes evolution take a few steps back(because organism can adapt only to slow changes not fast).
Also we are causing one right now.
pic related.

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I can't respect someone who thinks overpopulation is a serious threat.

>Without knowing who started this fight, I feel safe still blaming the hippo.
So hippos are the blacks of nature?

>There's no mass extinction going on.
Who is fostering this lie? I have never seen people so on message about this until literally this year.

>The people who live near the equator might be fucked but everyone else will be fine while some will even be better of than before.

Explain to me how Europe will benefit from the desertification of the Iberian and Italian peninsulae.

I look forward to learning about the bright side of crop failure.

Absolute KINO

>only way climate change poses any existential danger is if we freak out too much about it and start killing each other
Are you seriously expecting the human race to act rational when resources become more sparse?
You just have to look at any time theres a huge blackout or storm to see how desperate people become.
When 1 billion chinks and apus come knocking at your door for food, when you barely have enough to feed your own people will you let them in with open arms? Theyve got no where else to go war is inevitable

>everyone else will be fine while some will even be better of than before.
If you think people complain about refugees now...

The idea that we aren't part of nature, and somehow our actions aren't part of nature, and effect it negatively or positively, is one giant logical fallacy.

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>There's no mass extinction going on.
This is absolute bs. While animal extinctions aren't that fast because we are trying to prevent them, there's still a giant drop(over 60% in each category in last 50 years) in wild animals, insects and fish populations. And this is also how most of extinction were progressing(complete extinction of species is basically the last step of it).

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>There's no mass extinction going on.
>Who is fostering this lie? I have never seen people so on message about this until literally this year.
The internet has caused a lot of people to believe that everything "authorities" say is the opposite of the truth, regardless of how likely it is.

Even now, someone is replying to my post to point out a falsehood presented by an authority figure, as though that proves all authorities lie all the time.

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Yep. Also part of nature is us getting skullfucked by climate change to a point where we turn on each other fighting over scraps and probably end up wiping ourselves out with nukes. Extinction of entire species is part of nature.

I'm sure the dead penguin was male, he died helping her non-born son...If the penguin had been female, she had ran away

Well it depends what you mean by mass extinction. If you are talking about actual extinction of animals than it's a lie.
But if you are reffering to giant decline of basically all animals in the world than it's absolutely true.

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This

Climate change is part of nature, we're all meant to die. Evolution created man to usher another mass extinction era instead of a meteorite.
Exactly

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>Europe = all of humanity

Top lel. I guess they'll be forced to import food from us burgers. That's more shekels for us.

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The idea that you can only affect nature, negatively or positively, if you're NOT part of nature, is a logical fallacy.

That image depresses me
Not all of it just the child part. Ive always wanted at least 2 kids but then im just part of the problem.

What you said:
>The people who live near the equator might be fucked but everyone else will be fine while some will even be better of than before.
Pick and your narrative and stick to it.

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I never said that, you retard. I'm a different user.

I doubt it.
Well yeah species die all the time as the chart shows. This is hardly anything new.
>there's still a giant drop(over 60% in each category in last 50 years) in wild animals, insects and fish populations
That has a lot more to do with our rapid expansionism than with a change in climate. You'd know this if you weren't a cityfag.

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Election tourist detected

But it's as if you're saying authorities don't lie at all. When in fact they do a lot. Especially a politician because that's basically their job. You act like authority figures are boy scouts.

Pretty much fuckin kys, dunce.

I never said that Europe was all of humanity either you retarded faggot.

kill yourself

kek

It's not a white people thing you retard. Stop obsessing over /pol/.

No one said it was a white people thing. Are you okay there user?

>being so autistic that you search for the time and date I saved that image off of a Chinese piss bottle forum

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It literally took me 10 seconds, zoomy

He's literally talking about Europe.

So what if 90% of humans die off?

Fuck humans, life will never die, it only changes.

Our current species was never meant to last forever, only evolve to something different or die off.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

You're not the problem. The West is being replaced by immigration, not by natural birth. Everyone in the West could stop reproducing and it wouldn't make a dent to world populations. Likewise, everyone in the West could quadrupedal reproduction and it wouldn't make a dent.
See also Environmentalists refuse to put blame on the real cause nor address the real issue of overpopulation and instead preach and put blame domestically, the only place they feel they have any power to make a change.

You implied that the rest of humanity would be worse off, you tard. I pointed out that not all of us would be because other nations with a more temperate climate could potentially benefit.

2 children is just replacement level. Overpopulation is a myth, and depopulation is the real problem. By the time you're 80 the lack of children is going to a serious issue, like Japan on steroids. As countries urbanize and women dedicate themselves to work there's just not time or room for children.

And every word in that post is true. Europe is being affected. What exactly is your counter-argument?

I don't know. I wasn't around millions of years ago. Were you?

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just fuck in the shade you idiots

>The people who live near the equator might be fucked
>but everyone else will be fine
I then pointed to a country that wasn't near the equator, but gets fucked regardless. Thereby proving user's statement wrong. Do you understand now, you fucking idiot?

>tfw no post-apocalyptic global warming kino where human beings live on ships and some ocean version of Mad Max with pirates instead of motor gangs

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How do we know that the Sun exists. Were you there? I sure wasn't.

>he's never seen Waterworld

I'm not that user and I'm not defending him, you fucking retard. You still implied that everyone else would be worse off but that wouldn't the case 100% of the time.

Well yeah they're closest to the equator. It might affect them negatively.

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user climate control is completely out of the control of North America

The Asia's, particularly China and India, produce the majority of polution that contributes to climate change.

nothing we do matters

Sheeeet.

Life is suffering. Is there any worse curse than being alive?

One moment you are in this world, then you are suffering an agonizing death, all your hopes, dreams, all your begging and reasoning, even in an animal's level, all of it, it's nothing. No one cares, reality does't care.

You are alone in your own hell until you are nothing.

FUCK. brb gonna hug my doggo, he won't suffer. I'm making sure his life is only bliss.

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Not kino, I want KINO not schlock

Canada and Russia will become the breadbasket of the world apparently.

Stop trying to convince each other whether climate change is real or not and answer this:
Realistically speaking, what do you think would be the best solution short-term for this mess? In regards to CO2 reductions and viable energy solutions?

>I'm not that user and I'm not defending him, you fucking retard.
Then why do you feel like you're being addressed in the first place
>You still implied that everyone else would be worse off but that wouldn't the case 100% of the time.
No I fucking didn't you retard, I implied that countries that aren't near the equator get fucked by climate change. I don't even know who you mean by "everyone else" because your geography education seems to be so fucking limited that you don't know the Southern Europe between Spain and the equator.

>Well yeah they're closest to the equator.
Don't make me put a red circle on Europe user.

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>Can I kek

>Then why do you feel like you're being addressed in the first place

Because your autistic ass keeps giving me (you)s while throwing a shitfit because the other user isn't giving you attention.

>No I fucking didn't you retard, I implied that countries that aren't near the equator get fucked by climate change.

That's the rest of the world, Einstein.

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Waterworld sucks and they added to much fantasy shit like humans growing gills.

*you don't know the distance between Southern Europe and the equator, fuck I'm mad

Would you hang around a rampaging elephant?

>That has a lot more to do with our rapid expansionism
>implying habit destruction and radical climate change aren't working hand in glove

>three specific countries
>the rest of the world

Pick one you retard

Stop moving the goalpost. You know exactly what you were initially implying now you're just being autistic about it.

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It is most certainly not a lie, you stupid fucking worthless piece of shit. We absolutely are facing a mass extinction event right now. I don't know who's giving you your bullshit talking points but you need to do some fucking basic research, you worthless pile of trash.

Which nations will be affected positively? Besides Russia turning into a continent-sized field of wheat.

Imagine worshipping death this much.

What are you talking about?

>stop moving the goalpost
Like from Southern Europe to the rest of the world?

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>As rapidly as it is today?

We'll never know that. Accurate weather records have only been kept the last few 100 years.

Nuclear.

Northern Europe, Canada and some Asian nations apparently.

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Climate is a little bit more than rainy and sunny days, user

How dare you?

The fact that environmentalists do not swallow their pride, ask for forgiveness and start shilling nuclear energy just show that they are full of shit.

>because organism can adapt only to slow changes not fast
Citation fucking needed.

So, when you consider where Canada and Northern Europe get their goods from...

Russia is the only nation who will benefit from this shitshow.

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>-100%
This is what normies actually belive

>Brazil gets fucked hard
>still can't wait to burn their forests
lmfao wtf is wrong with Brazilians?

>Climate change is real
>Terraforming Mars is impossible

Something doesn't quite add up

t. doesn't know what evolution is

back to school, i bet you're an american larping as a non-american

We need a race realist eco-terrorist president to fix the world.

Evolution is something that doesn't happen rapidly. Where did you go to school, burger?

>have 1 fewer child
Jesus Christ, these people are suggesting that trying to retain your bloodline is a bad thing and you trust them on any level?
>live car free
and then on top of it they suggest dependence on their services rather than independence and general mobility are good as well
>eat a plant based diet
make yourself weaker and live on cheap sugars rather than foods humans were designed to digest
Its a complete list of ways to enslave your entire lifestyle to the very people who's "research" you are trusting.
Do you not see the many levels of conflict of interest?

>muh freedom
enjoy getting raped in 20 years by refugees from every red nation in this image

this, it's like propping up campaigns for housewives to bin their butter knives to stop violent crime in Detroit

>trying to retain your bloodline is a bad thing
Trying to retain yours would.

the central US is already only arable due to massive ecological tampering, its natural state is more or less a desert

Mars is closer to the sun. hotter, would require a giant ocean to cool it down, but would evaporate over a small period of time, unless you changed the atmosphere to shield the sun's rays while still allowing oxygen to be plentiful enough to breath and not toxic gasses that are more effective at cooling the planet.

Meteorologists can't even predict the weather for the next season.
Economists can't agree on anything and for any single one that predict something there is another one that predict the opposite.

Why should I believe in predictions from either for something that could maybe happen 100 years in the future?

I don't get it.

Not really. Outside of Antarctica and the North Pole the vast majority decreasing wild animal populations are caused directly by us and not a change in climate.

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Cant believe the only correct response is this far down

it happens in literally one generation, its just an observation of successful traits passed down to offspring. we usually look at it over long periods but it can happen incredibly fast. for example, it occurred extremely rapidly following the cretaceous extinction event that temporarily blocked out the sun and jacked the global temperature way up

also im not a denier, you just need to go read about evolution some more before you start talking about it

Listen to yourself, you are so certain of an unproven outcome, and also of a completely untested solution to that outcome, that you resort to threats and insults when the idea is challenged.
You posses some bit of suggestion that someone who you presume to be very smart due to their scientist title has spread, and you react violently, defensively, against those who deny it.

"Climate change" is something that can never be proven fake, the climate of the Earth has been in a constant state of change ever since the beginning, to believe that suddenly we have such broad control over it in the west, and really only in the west as no other countries act on "climate change", is just the height of hubris.

it does happen fast with organisms with short enough lifespans
there are bacteria that developed enzymes that eat off PET to use as carbon source, for example

Mars doesn't have a biosphere or oceans or even enough water to make oceans, dipshit.

>the climate of the Earth has been in a constant state of change ever since the beginning
Not as rapidly as today.

>someone who you presume to be very smart due to their scientist title
You know the process people have to go through to get that "Dr." in front of their name, right?