Turns out joe was our guy all along

>real actual science
sources needed

This poster reads rationalwiki.com

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Adam keeps dodging the fucking topic because he doesn't want to admit adaptation and biology can't be disproven.

Regardless if men are attracted to ass or tits, legs or chest, there will always be features men look for in a mate. If society were to collapse or if women's lives were in immediate danger they would look at the athletic guys first and seek their protection over an average guy even if the average looking guy knows how to survive. This is 200% true and they can test this out for themselves (and have done so with the survivor series) but they won't because they know damn well they'd be wrong.

>says people get extremely defensive when you attack something that's ingrained into them
>gets extremely defensive when trying to defend his beta point of view when challenged by joe
kek

>beta male tells alpha male that betas and alphas are just a social construct.
>the alpha tells the beta that's bullshit.
>the beta squirms and betas out.
>the alpha remains cool and collected, confident in his dominance.

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Adam "again, I'm not an expert" Conover

The amount of COPE is too much

What is wrong with him? Is there a name for that mental condition?

>cenk reaction pic
kys

>Rogan
>Alpha

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kek he tries to deflect over 9000 times but joe had him by the neck. I don't even believe in alpha males but obviously men like tits and asses.

Adam ruins Adam's career.

ddude whats the fucking point of arguing against proven facts like "men like certain hip-waist ratio etc" whats the fuck is this guy trying to do here

Stop emulating libtards by being an eternally buttblasted snowflake.

Goddamnit, the beta cucks in here defending a dumbass, wannabe Alpha Joe Rogan is stupid. Do you all want to suck Joe's little dick? Do you want Joe to stuff his manly, little peck in your fem assholes?

Leftists don't believe in evolution and they actually think men and women have the same brains despite all of the evidence.

I think what Joe gets fucked up here is that through most of written human history most males were weak and tiny because of malnutrition. Even look at 20th century films everybody is all skinny and has dorky mannerisms, made things more wholesome. They did have higher levels of testosterone, much higher but it was more like a scrappy doo type of wholesome aggression.

how is joe not alpha ?
>bald
>strong
>can fight
>clearly a great provider
...?

so its not okay to fuck my siblings?

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youtube.com/watch?v=JcAPU6paCxo

Adam is a cuck that whole interview

because if they admit otherwise they'd also have to admit that all their policies and solutions to the world's problems are futile at best and murderous at worst

did you mean to post a pic of alex jones

>t. incels

>hehehe I replied to everyone again mom xd

t. Adam

Because lying

This debate seemed to focus on physical strength. The CEO of Goldman Sachs is a tiny weasel jew, but still is alpha in terms of his power and influence on the world. An argument in Adam's favor could've been that humans gather resources in other ways than physical strength. But he's too retarded to make this point.

he's a tiny person

He's an atheist, that makes him a scientist and by extension all his opinions are science.

>An argument in Adam's favor could've been that humans gather resources in other ways than physical strength.
Adam doesn't even believe in human evolution so the idea that women seek beneficial things in men is foreign to him.

Be an alpha

Wow. So many cuckfucks defending their man Joe Rogan because they want his little pecker. He has no philosophical ground for his STUPID ASS ideas, but Yea Forums will defend him because they love his penis.

This shit right here.
This is what lulls people into the mind virus of leftism, they think just because someone seems smart they must be correct on a bunch of other issues.

dilate

Eh, gymcels exist, I don’t think having an athletic body means everything but it definitely helps.

Anybody that went to high school knows there are alphas and betas. Just basic observation being denied by these commies.

>it's an alt-right evo psych thread

nice pesudo-science

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Yeah that's a good point.

I'm gonna have to watch it, but I know it's gonna be painful. Adams show can be okay when it doesn't devolve into a strawman which his beta male video did.

joe is not alpha. I can guarantee you if adam started lifting, stopped drinking soi, he would look better than joe simply because he's fucking taller than him.

>no philosophical ground
This is science though.
Read Steven Pinker and understand evolutionary psychology.

>peterstein
>alt right
nice try r/socialism

>actual hard science is not real because it hurts my feelings
oh dear, what a sad person

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My favorite part was when he implies that he's always right and anyone who disagrees with him is just having an irrational reaction.

Peterson and adam would be best friends throw in bill nye for good measure

>nice pesudo-science
You can't even spell words properly.

Joe is a stone cold manlet. But he threw himself into MMA making him masculine. Adam is a stone cold faggot.

what a meaningless insult if betas and alphas aren't real

Adam like ruins, um, everything, right?

I can guarantee Joe would kick the shit out of you. When you regain consciousness would you says it doesn't count because he's short?

Evolutionary psychology is pure speculation. I get that there needs to be someone who dedicates their life to thinking about these issues, but to call it a science is a big stretch even by 1800s standards.

redditors are relentlessly defending this faggot

No they're not

reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/bebnjv/joe_rogan_experience_1282_adam_conover/

>Evolutionary psychology is pure speculation.
No, it's not. Evopsych also uses genetic, neuroscientific and anthropological research.

The social constructionists have nothing but feelings.
Kill yourself.

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Fat was seen as beautiful in the Renaissance

link?

But what if there's a GOLDDIGGER mod that skirts globbing on to my good thing? CTR ESC EXIT

>cant be disproven
There is your problem right there, it is not falsifiable, you cannot test for this. Adam is terrible at explaining the concept, but you literally cannot fully remove cultural influences and place a person in a vacuum to say "see, here is the evolutionary mechanisms in their purest forms." The example you gave does nothing to answer the question if this is derived from evolutionary mechanisms or culturally ingrained biases.
as this guy points out what we think of as 'athletic' is very specific to our place and time, there is not really a historical precedent for roided body builders

The thing is hes partially right. The generic idea of an Alphas/Beta isnt correct.

Alpha's actually care for other people. Betas are actually the 2nd tier of men because theres a 100 other tiers.

Just seen a faggot twink with a 7/10 girl earlier today. Being an alpha male and a Beta male nowadays is just a state of mind and how you carry yourself

joe would literally have NO CHANCE against Brendan Schaub simply because of his height. And Schaub is not even that great of a fighter

spoon feed me. i'm not watching this.

You guys realize that in the wild humans wouldn't be nearly as strong or tall as they are today right?

explain to me how you can reliably remove all cultural influences on psychological processes. I took university level evolutionary psych classes and every honest person practicing in the field readily admits "this is a young field, it is difficult to definitively prove anything, but we maintain that psychological processes are just as subject to natural selection as the body."

>Yea Forums - Television & Film

Bullshit. That was only a few painters w/ BBW fetishes.

Being a cute Justin Beiber twink doesn't make you a beta. Being a basedboi geek with a neckbeard and supporting feminists is the overall description of a modern beta

>Betas are actually the 2nd tier of men Yeah betas are technically high up, but it's used as an insult today because everyone expect to be the best

A beta gets a woman and provides for her, even a high quality woman, while an alpha can have many women or choose from a wider pool of women

people still like curvy women user, those painters weren't drawing landwhales because they were basicalky nonexistent back then

I was an AP European history student

Trust me user, I'm super smart
And now in modern times, the dad bod is a thing

its funny how all you fags are making fun of adam, but 99.999% of you retards posting ITT are just like him

>I took university level evolutionary psych classes
No you didn't.
Just read the wiki article and listen to pinker's take on it.
Leftist professors are fucking pissed it exists because it contradicts their dogma

yes it was, but those fatties still had the correct hip to waist ratio as did thick women in the 50s and the thick women today.
you can be skinny or fat and still have the proper sexy hip to waist ratio, you fucking faggot.

No. An alpha is one of the leaders, a beta is his right hand men who help. Then theres a bunch of other tiers where average people would fill out. and the bottom tiers filled with incels.

Beta was never actually a bad thing but somehow became a an alpha vs beta meme on the internet.

No shit. I would always expect the pro fighter to beat the not pro fighter. But how many pro mma fighters are walking around? Unless Joe is hanging around his pro mma buddies, if he is in a room with a group of people he's most likely going to be the toughest guy there. And that will shut down any manlet comments people can throw at him.

right, right, right?

whats the timestamp for the trans kids debate?

>t. omega

>white guy tries to use logic and science
>other guy goes full brainlet and just austically screeches
Embarrassing

god damn that guy has drank too much of the social justice kool-aid. extreme racism/sexism are bad, but on the other side of that spectrum you have people like this who are so afraid of those concepts that they reject basic biology.

He’s also white you dumb cumskin

joe is retard who is happy to sell out future generations by giving these retards a little bit of ground

How do you prove that humans didn't live in matriarchal societies 10,000 years ago? You can't. You can guess, you can formulate hypotheses, but you can't test them.
I don't see how making up prehistoric fanfiction is necessary to accept that all behavior is in part genetically determined.

science is reality

leftists are contrarian by nature, because they are typically weirdo shut ins that live in mom's basement and no one likes them

they have to reject science or accept that they are pieces of shit-- they chose option B

he starts projecting at 11 minutes in, nice lack of self-awareness right there considering SJWs will literally de-platform someone who betrays their inner circle

Joe Rogan has a biracial step daughter because his wife fucked a wannabe nigger rapper and you faggots herald him as an alpha. The s o y ridden douche across from him is more masculine by default.

Now don’t get me wrong the cavemen were much stronger than us, I drink cave men bone broth. Also ancient Fertile Crescent had literal mages and warlocks roaming around and cults worshipping golden bulls and sacrificing childeren, the ancient world was literally Skyrim. All that shit is real

>I'm not lonely I have male friends, Adam, shut up bro

Not him but we can clearly see men are more dominant and men dominate every society in recorded history. Chimps are male dominated species.
Why do you think it would have been any different 10000 years ago?

We can see this in the structure of the male vs female brains.
We know what sex hormones do to personality.

Why the fuck are you denying basic science?

Joe on that weed depression I see

>There is your problem right there, it is not falsifiable, you cannot test for this. Adam is terrible at explaining the concept, but you literally cannot fully remove cultural influences and place a person in a vacuum to say "see, here is the evolutionary mechanisms in their purest forms." The example you gave does nothing to answer the question if this is derived from evolutionary mechanisms or culturally ingrained biases.
lol this isn't how it works
you're just making a dumb strawman
I can't believe a large group of people exists in society that dominates society that doesn't believe in evolution.
It's actually a fucking clown world.

Fuck off with your cuck fantasies white cuck

Adam has almost certainly lived in a left wing bubble. Even the soft questions from Joe rattle him.

Leftists refuse to question their own retarded ideology.

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half the fucking conversation is Adam saying "right"
it's unbearable

>Not him but we can clearly see men are more dominant and men dominate every society in recorded history
False
>Chimps are male dominated species.
1. We're not chimps. 2. Bonobos.
>Why the fuck are you denying basic science?
Tell me how you empirically test your fucking hypotheses about how human evolution happened or you're not allowed into the basic science club. Second and last warning.

you mean the faggy white guy with the lesbian sister and dad who literally dresses just like them both doesn't live in the real world?

The amount of seething beta males in last nights post was a sight to behold!

>raising other man kids is alpha bro especially from a different race

I’m a tall lanklet with no athletic ability and poor social skills and I’m far more alpha than your fag idol Rogan and more than you too apparently.

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>They also lack a solid belief system, like say religion, and can be easily swayed.
Fucking brainlet. Only betas are religious.

>He's an atheist, that makes him a scientist and by extension all his opinions are science.

All the atheist forums where they debunk supernatural phenomenon that I went to were all absolutely 100% sure Trump colluded with Russia also. Every damned one. And they were vehement about it too, that the facts were all on their side.

The fact is that science changes and theres very few things where we know with 100% assurance that A is directly caused by B.

The redpill is realizing most scientific studies are garbage with biases, ESPECIALLY in the social sciences. If the people conducting the study are human, and the people reviewing the studies are human, then they are automatically subject to corruption by humans.

>more alpha
How so? You can’t even get laid

Have sex

It's not like his wife fucked that guy while she was married to Rogan, though. She married the other guy, had a kid with him, then married Rogan and had two kids with him, that's not really a cuck thing.

>I can guarantee you if adam started lifting, stopped drinking soi, he would look better than joe simply because he's fucking taller than him.
But he’s still be a beta faggot. Alpha is a mindset first and foremost.

>Alpha and Beta behavioral patterns are seen and acknowledged as scientific fact throughout the animal kingdom
>It doesn't apply to humans though, we aren't animals

I'll admit that I'm not very surprised that the betas are starting to develop coping mechanisms.

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>False
TOP KEK
Men were the tops of almost every society and when women were in charge it was only temporary and because men let them.
Just start looking up history on wikipedia.
You people are fucking delusional cultists.

>1. We're not chimps. 2. Bonobos.
We have a common ancestor.
Male dominated species.

>Tell me how you empirically test your fucking hypotheses about how human evolution happened
Fossil record, genetic studies, neuroscience, anthropology, basic logic?

These are some of the tools we you.
The tools your side uses are your feelings.
Social constructionism is batshit insane.
Read Steven Pinker he demolishes you insane people.
Also this video:
>youtube.com/watch?v=mZadvovEI9k
Is Evolutionary Psychology a Testable Science?

Kill yourself PLEASE!!!!

ass

for you

based

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this was painful to watch.

Yeah I should be like you and grab the first single mom off tinder I can find to show you internet tough guys I’m the real alpha.

It's in the gray zone. He was a cuck up until the point she popped out his first spawn. At that point he's just in neutral territory.

>reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/bebnjv/joe_rogan_experience_1282_adam_conover/

God damn all those fucking beta's.

>Because he benefits from toxic masculinity.
>People with a conscience hate the idea that they benefit off things that can cause pain to other people.

So If I'm born abled, and someone is born disabled, because I benefit from not being disabled I'm suppose to feel BAD and hate that I benefit from being abled? Are these people fucking mental?

>No.
Why do you say no and then don't actually say anything that opposes what I said?

>wolves literally piss and shit on the omega wolf, bully them by biting their legs and ass and even kill them, the Alpha simply watches and makes the betas bully the omega

>all "pseudo-science" by some coping numale

Technically Rogan is a cuck for raising another man's child.

>Are these people fucking mental?

You're only starting to realize this? Modern liberalism unironically is a mental illness.

If you want some thug niggers leftovers then have at it, but don’t attack me for abstaining. Or do, it doesn’t matter. If I’m in Rogan’s position I get an 18-20 year old white broad in her prime and have every one of the kids she squeezes out dna tested for confirmation of my paternity.

>psychology is now science even though I was saying its bullshit, yeah but this 1 guy agrees with what I think so its real now, but only the thing that this guy says.

>but don’t attack me for abstaining
What? I wasn't attacking you.

>projecting this hard
You should probably learn how to talk to girls, and stop having cuck fantasies, and maybe you won’t be such a mad incel who only thinks about girls fucking other guys

But he had two of his own to even out the score.

>its a clear beta complains that alpha-beta distinctions aren't real episode
haha

Imagine believing that something as historically notoriously pseudo such as psychology is a full blown falsifiable science just because someone attaches the word evolutionary to it.

>
Start with Sex and Temperament in Three Primitive Societies (1935)
>
The fuck do you know how animals interacted with one another millions of years ago, get a fucking grip. Bonobos again.
>
Those are the things you would use to formulate your hypothesis about behavior that happened thousands/millions of years ago. You're still one step too short.
>"just watch this youtube video bro"
No

>He was a cuck up until the point she popped out his first spawn. At that point he's just in neutral territory.
Yeah.
If the first guy only had a daughter, and then joe got both a daughter and a son, then joe would be ahead even, but as it is now it's neutral.

You are a beta

yes, because you have something that they haven't. that means you're evil and they're justified in taking what you have, in order to make things "equal"

Evolutionary psychology is the most pseudo of all psychologies. At least shit like psychoanalysis is based on observation.

>Evopsych also uses genetic, neuroscientific and anthropological research.
So does Scientology, that is how a pseudoscience works, it borrows from real science and makes vast leaps of logic to draw preconceived conclusions by skipping certain steps of the scientific method.

>youtube.com/watch?v=JcAPU6paCxo
>uhh...ummmm....uhh......well.....uh I'm not an expert.....u-uhhhhh.....ummmmmm
How the fuck does anyone take this retard seriously? Who gave him a show?

>>psychology is now science
Evolutionary psychology is indeed science.
youtube.com/watch?v=mZadvovEI9k

Left wing social constructionism is a fairy tale.

>raising another man’s daughter is a cuck thing
Technically they can fuck and it wouldn’t be wrong

Maybe he's better when he has a script? Idk, never watched his show, the promos and his smug face were too off-putting.

Why do you leftist anti-intellectuals get so angry when people debunk your delusional fantasies?
youtube.com/watch?v=mZadvovEI9k
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology

You literally don't even have an argument.

What about all the sculptors carving fat dudes with tiny penises into giant blocks of marble?

I'm an agnostic, but don't worry, you'll grow out of your fedora phase eventually.

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The biracial girl is like in her 20s anyway, I doubt he's still "raising" her (if he ever did at all). Whenever he talks about his kids, it seems like he never mentions her, only the younger two.

The Dunning–Kruger effect is never more obvious than when people talk about shit like this
Obviously there are differences between people but right off the bat just thinking you can categorize people by throwing them in one of only two boxes is such an extreme oversimplification of what's really going on
Yeah stuff like this occurs in wild animal populations which are 100x less complex than human society and even then all of that is based on our own imperfect analysis to begin with as well

It really is telling when Joe Rogan of all people is able to pin you down multiple times and expose your complete bullshit. Adam seems to just get off on being "right" against the common consensus but doesn't even question his own basic assumptions.

Everyone ITT is a fucking retard for arguing about this nothing point when later on in the podcast he casually brings up hormone therapy for children and when backed against the wall he tells Joe that he heard it from Contrapoints.

time?

>Her reports detailing the attitudes towards sex in South Pacific and Southeast Asian traditional cultures influenced the 1960s sexual revolution.[4] She was a proponent of broadening sexual conventions within a context of traditional Western religious life.
Why do you want me to read a leftist activist's book from 1935 when we have modern research that shows how retarded you are?

>The fuck do you know how animals interacted with one another millions of years ago
LEL
Anthropology? Genetic data? Fossil record?
You're acting like this is impossible when there are countless scientists doing this right now.
Get out of your leftist bubble.

>Bonobos
Bonobos are not matriarchal, but matrifocal. There is a difference.

You people are insane. You literally think male and female brains are exactly the same and sex hormones don't effect behavior.
Fucking anti-intellectual cult.

>>"just watch this youtube video bro"
It debunks you quite well.

BEYTAA

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lol wtf I bet adam was a fan of channel awesome as well we already know he's a big gaymer

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So basically just a shabbos goy like majority of the guest joe has on his show.

Adam is actually pretty chill, i can tolerate him even if i disagree with lots of shit. He at least has the willingness to talk and doesn't go apeshit like SJW into emotional tirades.

>MEN DESIGNED SPORTS TO BE UNFAIR TO WOMEN LIKE HAVING THE BASKETBALL HOOP AT A HEIGHT ADJUSTED TO MALES
>IF WE LOWER THE HOOP'S HEIGHT THE WOMEN WILL HAVE A FAIR CHANCE AGAINST MEN
>EVEN THOUGH LOWERING THE HOOP MAKES IT PROPORTIONALLY AS EASIER TO MEN AS IT DOES TO WOMEN THUS RESULTING IN NO FINAL CHANGE BEING MADE AND WOMEN BEING BTFO AS USUAL WITH A MATCH NOT WORTH WATCHING BUT RATHER ONLY WORTH PITYING
Fuck man, at least use your elementary school physics in this argument.

>alpha
>bald
stop right there

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Evopsych doesn't do any of what you're saying.
You read some leftist blog that said it's wrong because it's sexist and now you're spewing your ignorance all over Yea Forums.

>I’m a cuck for pointing out Rogan’s pathetic decision to marry a coalburner single mom

Get a new hero to suckoff retard. We’re in a discussion about masculinity and reproductive strategy and you’re defending the strategy of raising the offspring of a foreign tribesman mating with your female as your own. Glad all that time in the gym and picking up women paid off. Fucking loser.

>when did you get tired of being a man and became a librul
>libruls aren't men, not real men
>libruls are BEYTAHS
Amazin'

why the fuck is contra making the rounds now all of a sudden

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This. Just like men like different types of women, women like different types of men. Some men like dominant women. Some women like feminine men. The reason for this is that we aren't just affected by instinctual and biological factors, but also cultural and social factors that influence our thoughts, behaviour and even sexuality. This is what differentiates humans from animals, animals are purely guided by instinct.

There's no stopping this weight going up yer arse boy. Now open wide.

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Big penis back then was seen as barbaric though, that’s why Greek and Roman statues all has flaccid dick

>he tells Joe that he heard it from Contrapoints.
Wonder if it ever crossed his mind that this wasn't exactly the most unbiased source in the world. It's like doing cocaine because Joey Diaz told you it was fun.

>when backed against the wall he tells Joe that he heard it from Contrapoints.
Holy shit really?
Contrapoints is a garbage human.

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Start at 1:21:00, they were discussing allowing trans people to compete in sports when the conversation takes a sharp left turn.

youtu.be/JHmktXPdOrQ?t=4869

She's a kike, which is why he is best friends with alex as his wife was also jewish.

COPE

NYT article I believe.
The left is getting more extreme.
Contrapoints platforms marxist-leninists.

>humans are above instinct
imagine actually believing this

That honestly just sounds like coping. Also a bunch of those little dick statues were meant to be literal children (like Emperor Hadrian's 13-year old lover who was the basis for a ton of classical statues).

got backing from someone in the shadows. now getting shilled by leftist media like vice

Nice argument bro. Literally all you have to do is talk to different types of people to realize we are more than just instinct.

You're overthinking something very simple. The alpha/beta principle is simply categorizing basic social traits in social groups. On top of that comes every other external variable, like fame, money or humor.
You are one of the two, and most people are able to instantly recognize which one you are within a very short period of time. But say I was a beta male looking for a mate. Despite women knowing that I was a beta, they'd look at every other variable and see if I was a worthy mate.

It's simple fucking categorization, and it's how social hierarchy is established within a group of strangers only minutes after they meet. Every fucking time.

more like Marxist-Incelinists.
Ayneeta?

Your article doesn't even directly try to claim it is a science, it skirts around the subject by using phrases like theoretical approach in the social sciences.

Compare to real hard sciences (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry) which outright in no uncertain terms state that they are natural sciences or scientific disciplines.

More like Incelist-Onionists.

The biggest problems in society today can be traced back to the fact we DENY our instincts.
Radical anti-instinct cults like socialism, marxism and SJW bullshit are huge problems.

Is that Razorfist?

Damn boy, you lookin' fine without the sunglasses.

We're basically driven by instinct too though. I agree that we can curb it a bit (for example we're not all raping and eating each other on a daily basis), but at the end of the day instinct and biological factors drive us way more than cultural ones. Just to pick one example, adultery/infidelity/whatever you want to call out would flat-out not exist if cultural factors mattered more than instinct.

LOOK AT THIS DUDE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>We’re in a discussion about masculinity and reproductive strategy
>said the fucking retard that admits he has social skill problems
I don’t think you should be talking about these kind of things, you obviously hold no merit, and is only basing things off articles you hear or read on the internet.

Doubt it. A combination of networking with other lefty Youtubers and a healthy jolt of youtube's algorithm probably gave her enough presence to get the attention of lefties outside of Youtube.

Simply amayzin'

Algorithm picked the channel up and some media guys made a piece on it. Contra is also accommodating to right leaning guys (the average non /pol/ user) and that why we know about him/her

the video explains why it's perfectly testable science

either way, the social constructionist view of history is far far more untestable than anything evopsych does

leftists actually think men and women's brains are exactly the same and the only thing that influences them are social factors
now THAT is pseudoscience

>right leaning guys

so fellow incels?

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

that's what i'm saying. someone powerful outside of the youtube sphere saw him and decided to put the spotlight on him

>Is that Razorfist?
hahaha i thought the same thing when I saw it.
imagine if contra was his alter ego

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I think he means generic mainstream conservatives. Think Jordan Peterson and other guys roughly in that part of the political spectrum.

>coping
I’m 8 inches bro, m8 just fucking do a google quick search on why and there’s tons of articles about it

do you actually know what a social construct is

thie rightwingers get recommend far leftwinger channels more than any other besides their fellow side

>dat bone and muscle structure
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Hurtful. I'll engage. Women are largely simple creatures. They are biologically looking for the best genes, it's a very strong pull for them. They are able to recognize the ability to provide for them via wealth, though it'[s more of an intellectual decision. Those women are likely to fuck a physically superior man and have his child. The rich man should always ask for a paternity test. Any man for that matter.

>accommodating to right leaning guys
She's really not, that's just a facade so her fans can deceive themselves that she's just not another preaching to the choir youtuber. "She's not just telling me what i want to hear, it's actual rational discourse that persuades outsiders and i just happen to listen to it to stay informed!" lmao

>goes straight into "muh slavery" the moment he's challeneged

Jesus Christ

A behavior that is not instinctual.
Next ask me if I know what socialism is.
Workers control of the means of production.

You people are still brainlets.
COPE

you know, on my other favourite board, I just wanna talk about my fucking hobby, and am so fucking tired of this fucking nonsense regarding all this shit. I just wanna talk about my hobby and why its so great, why do these perverts need to inject their genitals into everything.

no thats not what it is.

social construct means that its made by society. that doesnt mean that it isnt based on science.

like race. black/white/asian is a social construct. has nothing to do with if race exists or not.

>A shadowy powerful figure
Pretty sure it was just Vice News, dude.

He made the right connections and built up significant social capital.

>social construct means that its made by society.
yes, ie. not instinctual

>that doesnt mean that it isnt based on science.
But it isn't.
Social constructions are based on biology.

>like race. black/white/asian is a social construct.
It's not, races are real and can be studied scientifically.
Races have different tendencies towards behaviors and intelligence levels.

I don't even disagree though. I think humans are way more driven by instinct and emotion than we want to believe. We aren't rational whatsoever. I think most of our actions are driven by emotion, and only afterwards we try to justify said action with rationality.

It's the same with modern day politics. We naturally sway to either the left or right because of our social surrounding and emotions. We become right wing because we watch the news and see that most crime is caused by foreigners which makes us feel threatened. We become left wing because we develop empathy for the poor and weak. Only after we made our decision based purely on our emotions, we try to defend said position using a biased form of rationality. We look up articles and statistics defending our position.

Basically we are all stupid.

See Sexual preferences obtained through social factors does not invalidate the alpha/beta principle.
The moment you meet a male stranger, you either consciously or subconsciously look at his body language, tone of voice, eye movement, etc, in order to establish whether he is above or beneath you in the social hierarchy. Whether he unbeknownst to you has fucked 50 more women than you have, or has a bank account that is 100 times larger than yours, it still won't change the basic dynamic you two had when you first met. You were a beta from the get-go, and he was an alpha from the get-go.

>A behavior that is not instinctual.

Brainlet-tier definition.
A social construct is any abstract idea or concept which isn't a material, objective reality.

>like race. black/white/asian is a social construct.
That's like saying Bananas and Apples are a social construct.
Humans have intuition and can identify basic things.
This isn't complicated.

This Adam guy is a fucking retard and pulls a bunch of bullshit into his argument, but his basic premise that alpha/beta is a too simple model to explain human relationships is absolutely correct. He fucks himself over with "durr women aren't attracted to fit males durr" and other sociology bullshit. Alphas/betas are found in wolf packs where the alphas run the entire pack through sheer strength, humans are not like that. A tribe of humans could easily have 10 "alpha males" cooperating in different roles, many of our world leaders are wimpy men that would be considered "betas" yet they have risen to the top. An "alpha male" can all of a sudden be in a position where he is outcompeted by a "beta". It's imprecise terminology used to describe very specific dynamics in certain groups of animals and it does not translate well to human relations. Yes, leader types exist, more dominant men exist, but we do not have clearly defined alpha/beta relationships in humanity.

>A social construct is any abstract idea or concept which isn't a material, objective reality.
No it's not lol what the fuck
you're having a completely different conversation than everyone else

10 or more so years ago nobody used the alpha beta terms, just like nobody knew what a meme was, it was all internet speak. I remember telling my normie friends about it and they had no idea what I was talking about. The same groups were basically the same things but nobody used those words

We can feed a computer nothing but some genetic data and tell it to sort the data into categories. They decide the number of categories by the number of races of people in the study. They don't tell the computer to sort people into races, they tell it to merely categorize the data. The computer, with no other information, and no concept of race, will proceed to perfectly sort these people into their racial groups. The fact that a machine with no concept of race can sort the data perfectly into people's self reported categories provides scientific validity to our classifications.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1196372/

journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.0010070&type=printable

web.stanford.edu/group/rosenberglab/papers/popstruct.pdf

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Yes the man who has 9 kids from 6 different women is more valuable in this discussion I suppose. Faggots like you base your whole worth on pussy and attack me when I openly admit my own flaws. Jesus Christ dude don’t forget to set your tinder profile to 6ft+ height. Can’t let the ladies think less of you as a man.

the instinct for women to like alpha males simply works with rich successful men too
this is why women like them

Ohh dude not saying that she is engaging with right belief in a genuine way, she is simply to far off to the other end to do that but she at least can stop her self from screeching at the white man for half her video.

>there is not really a historical precedent for roided body builders

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True but there are no 'natural' alphas and betas. Nobody is confident in every social circle, that's bullshit. People might be alpha in some circles, but beta in others.

ohh nooo...
I liked her series on the Hobbit trilogy

based althype viewer
im still waiting on his next video

im going to sleep now, take over the thread for me

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Alpha/Beta is just the right wing way of calling someone CHAD or VIRGIN. The left has their own version, INCEL. It's binary exactly because it's all it needs to describe, men women want to fuck, or don't. Litteraly SOUL vs SOULLESS as applied to the sexual desirability of males.

I wasnt suggesting that you personally were coping, but thanks for reassuring us about the size of your penis.

>our taxes pay for this
What a fucking clown world.

Dude, you literally can’t go a post without talking about your cuck fetish. Also no one said shit about your height, you reek of insecurity and it’s amazing.

are you fucking retarded?

saying something is a social construct doesnt mean anything other than it can change from society to society. differences among ethnic groups in the world is real and literally every scientist agrees.

there is nothing called "black" or "white" or "asian". theres a huge amount of difference between a russian and a iberian man. a man from senegal looks nothing like a man from somalia yet in our society they are both black.

the social construct isnt if race exists or not but how we group them and that changes. italians werent white 200 years ago. swedes were considered swarthy.

An alpha not being confident simply means he's surrounded by alphas who are higher in the social hierarchy than he is. A beta being confident simply means he's surrounded by betas who are lower in the social hierarchy than he is.

See where I'm going with this? It isn't about confidence. It's about the essence of you. And it applies to you, unless you suffer from multiple personality disorder.

>"fat"
>still managed to be half the size of land whales today

Okay user.

>Ostrich posting

Yes, but I'd instinctually disagree with someone calling Emmanuel Macron an "alpha" just because he is in the position he is in.
Indeed, so Adam's claim that it is not a *SCIENTIFIC* concept is correct. It's a pop cultural thing.

>It's not, races are real and can be studied scientifically.

But where do you set a cutoff point between races? Is a mulatto white or black? Is a hapa white or asian? Are they each their own race? How about quadroons, octaroons, etc.? Are arabs and turks white, black,or asian?

Critical race theory is garbage. It won't make Africans smarter. Reality is a bitch but it's better if we acknowledge it rather than let clownworld prevail. Which the Marxists are happy about.

subversive jewish post modern bullshit

>saying something is a social construct doesnt mean anything other than it can change from society to society.
but it really can't
why do you people deny human instincts
all of your emotions come from instincts, they aren't a social construct

modern neuroscience and genetic research shows this
the left hate science

>the social construct isnt if race exists or not but how we group them and that changes. italians werent white 200 years ago. swedes were considered swarthy.
Oh boy this old debunked straw grasping again.
Italians were considered white and were allowed into the USA with it "strictly white's only immigration policy". So were irish.
Ben Franklin had never seen a Swede in his life and was obviously confused.

>there is nothing called "black" or "white" or "asian". theres a huge amount of difference between a russian and a iberian man

Did you read the studies? People who self identified as "Caucasian" "black" and "Asian" fit perfectly into those genetic categories automatically, just by putting in genetic data blindly

I liked the bit where they take about nearly half of trannys wanting to an hero. These are really impressive numbers and with some hormonal child abuse we can hopefully wipe out more of these mind cripples.

it's not up to you, it's up to the individual's female instinct of what her instinct determines as alpha

I think it’s actually a derivative of those Facebook memes with pictures of wolves and people would say they’re an alpha wolf.

Yes but there is no one social hierarchy that encompasses everything. The social hierarchy differs for every group of people. On a large scale, an alpha in the US might be considered a fucking loser in China. On a small scale, an alpha at the football club might be considered an idiot at a fraternity or something.

You see, there’s no such thing as beauty anymore. They killed it. Hurt their egos too much.

Hierarchies leave someone in last place. Alpha and Beta males are a clear example of actual, functional hierarchies in humanity. Therefore, it just be proven false.

Nothing can be better than another thing. The death of advancement. The death of humanity.

I didn’t even know about this beta and alpha shit until Mgtow incels kept talking about it like a few years ago then i started to see it more posted on Yea Forums

>This dude is a walking buzzfeed article.
>If pussy hats could queef, the lingering particles would be this dude.
>This dude has that annoying valley girl voice. Or Hollywood progressive voice? Not really sure how to describe it exactly. Maybe as smug?

lmao

Adam would be a neat guy to trigger right wingers but he's dumb as fuck and lost his credibility with that episode where he says that everyone has STDs and that they're actually good for you. What the fuck man

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Thanks, you wanna see it :)

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whats with these pathetic male pride threads

I get what you're saying, but this still doesn't invalidate the alpha/beta principle.
It's like saying natural alphas and betas don't exist within wolf packs, since the alpha wolf is a fucking loser when the alpha lion comes along.

At the end of the day, the alpha wolf remains an alpha within his respective social hierarchy, while the alpha lion remains an alpha within his respective social hierarchy.

PBS as a whole only gets about 12% of its funding from the fed, on top of that PBS affiliated youtube channels mostly survive off of donations by viewers.

I hate to phrase it like this but i think alot of it has to do with internalised misogyny. Think about it, if your ideological framework is that men controlled and ruled everything for human history (patriarchy) you have wonder "why didn't women do anything for 10,000 years". So there is an existential threat that if women are different to men, they must be inferior. A huge portion of feminist discourse is centred around proving women are equal to men. If everything is a social construct then women could have the same sociological outcome as men and the perceived threat of being inferior is erased.

fwiw i don't think women are inferior to men but if you have a patriarchal lens i think you could see how this conclusion could manifest.

again. social constructs doesnt deny instinct. adam is a fucking retard that hasnt actually studied anything.

if he actually went to a university they would make it very clear that a social construct means the rules the society is created on. they might base them on religion, or biology or both.

women are naturally more nurturing than men but our society says that ONLY women could nurture.

its like saying men are taller than women so all men are tall.

The guy who came up with the alpha/beta shit literally said it was all bullshit

>You see, there’s no such thing as beauty anymore. They killed it. Hurt their egos too much.
Communism. Look at modern art. Garbage, you can't criticize it.

People ought to think about the inverse of communism. Fascism. Scary name but believes in beauty and tradition. And law and order.

youtube.com/watch?v=RxQIn8wgiqg

what did she mean by this?

>basic science.
Then it shouldn't be too hard for you to reference several basic human biology textbooks that mention alpha/beta alongside their evolution chapters.

I agree with that. But that's a different way of looking at it than most people do. Most people think alpha males are people that are respected and looked up to by EVERYONE, but those people do not exist.

Well you're proving that leftist right.

>youtube.com/watch?v=F4yz-P94n0Q

Pure COPE from Adam in this video. The only good video from him I've seen is the one where he BTFO Circumcision niggers.

There’s nothing referring to cuckoldry in my previous post at all. And as for my insecurity I have no idea what you’re talking about about. I was forthcoming by telling you about my lack of athleticism and poor social skills and that’s the only thing you attack me for. You’re the little bitch that jumped on me for pointing out that Joe Rogan is raising a child that isn’t his.

>sports are optimized for a male type of body

is adam a fucking retard?

>the only video I liked is where he agreed with me

Have Sex.