Watching this for the first time, and I must admit to enjoying ti quite a lot. >surprisingly well-written for a kids show >episodes have a comfy mission-based feel to them >a lot of the prequel-characters (especially Anakin) are drawn as more light-hearted than the movies >war stories that don't shy away from the "war" aspect, plenty of deaths among surprisingly human clones
>episodes have a comfy mission-based feel to them This seems like an underappreciated feature. It's a shame they didn't carry the philosophy into making Rebels.
Evan Barnes
The first two seasons are kinda meh, but S3 onward the quality skyrockets in just about everything.
I liked the Clone Wars movie that kickstarted the TV series, but never watched the TV Series cause I really liked the “The Clone Wars” cartoon that aired before Episode III’s release and introduced General Grievous and Asaj Ventress
Brody Clark
Agree here. The animation quality especially really improves, and some of the direction is just fucking awesome. It's one of the few modern series I'm glad kids have as I remember growing up with X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman TAS, etc.. and how awesome those were. Clone Wars is just as good if not better than the golden age classics.
Nathaniel Williams
Tartakovsky's mini-series man, those are fucking legendary.
>girl character wears more clothing as she gets older
what did they mean by this
it was okay for her to be in a tubetop at age 14 but now that she's legal age no
Isaac Gonzalez
The movie is a good episode for a cartoon pilot, but a bit lacking as a movie movie. You should watch the series. Try not to quit after the slow episode where Yoda slowly road-trips his way to Ventress, it gets better.
David Lopez
Circulation gets bad in the elderly, so they feel cold all the time.
Nicholas Reyes
If you replace Attack of the Clones with the entirety of this show the prequels are as good as the OT.
William Cook
The difference between Lucas and Disney.
With Lucas, had sexy aliens. Disney, can't have sexy aliens any more. But it's ok for Disney to sexualize underage girls on the Disney channel, and animated princesses.
Would have been kino if it had blood and more violence.
Jose Cook
Giving more development to prequel characters is definitely one of its biggest strengths. Anakin’s development through the show gives his fall much more impact.
Connor Sullivan
>slave outfit >less revealing than her regular outfit
uh huh
Ryan Smith
Hoenstly its pretty dark for a kids show. They humanize the clones a lot, and give them tons of personality only to have the die lile the fodder they really are.
I remember the 2 d (or 3rd) episode lf the show ever where the seperatists attack a medical station. Not only does the attack cause mass casualties but they also hunt open fire on and destroy fleeing ships carrying wounded soldiers.
That's pretty fucking grim for a show aimed at 7-year-olds.
Not only is she not real, but even if she was she wound't have human rights. For fucks sake she's not even the same species.
Dylan Thompson
It does have "war" right in the title.
Blake Foster
>For fucks sake she's not even the same species. Unlimited cumming inside.
Oliver Nguyen
Star Wars has never really used blood all that much, but TCW was definitely not lacking in the violence department, especially in the later seasons. Clones were subject to some of the violent things that I thought were pretty questionable for a kid's show. >Those Clones getting their pods cut open and getting sucked out into the vacuum of space during the Malevolence arc >One of the Clones getting eaten by a giant worm during Rookies >Those Clones falling into traps like a pool of lava in Grievous' lair >Clones dying left and right during the Citadel Arc to a variety of traps. One even got cut in half where you literally see him begging to get helped up before it off-screens it. >The fucking Umbara Arc. Clones getting eaten by the local wildlife and plants. Getting crushed by falling and debris and getting run over by tanks. Cries of pain are literally going on as the battle rages. Clones getting vaporized. Krell brutally murdering them.
Umbara arc would've made such an amazing live action mini series. Such wasted potential, but I'm really glad Filoni delivered when he could even if it was animated.
Kevin Kelly
The Apocalypse Now story arc on Umbara was kino af
This series made droids threatening again in certain arcs and scenes. Shit like the CIS gunship mowing down clones while dropping off supers is the type of war-like scenarios I love in Star Wars. That's one thing that seems to be lost with modern Star Wars, they sure have a lot of "star" but barely any "war"
Zachary Smith
One under-appreciated aspect of the series was the battle droids. Some of their quips were genuinely funny, and watching Greivous lash out at them actually caused a chuckle.
Speaking from a moral point of view: Did the separatist army as a whole do anything wrong?
Zachary Hall
Separatists themselves did nothing wrong, it was the (((banking clans))) with droid armies co-opted and claimed their movement to enslave planets. The actual 100% at heart separatists were completely justified to leave the republic
Not really and this is one of the things I really wish Lucas would've gone for. Instead of Dooku being a Sith, he should've been like right the whole time and the Jedi were fighting the wrong enemy. I think it would've been a bigger kick in the teeth to the Jedi if Sheev had manipulated them all into fighting the good guys.
Nathan Butler
fucking hell all we need is a balck hawk down/saving private ryan/full metal jacket esq film with stormtroopers and shwoing the whole 'war is hell" and brothers in arms bonding shit in the start wars universe
Benjamin Bennett
there were heroes on both sides
Juan Thomas
I don't even really understood what the Jedis problem was with the seperatists. >"Look, the planets in the outer rims don't really feel well-represented in the republic so we're going to try our own thing."
I didn't know Jedi were allowed to fight for/against a political ideology.
Thomas King
The second Genosian War episodes were so fucking good. Someone post the webms of the landing and Kenobi circling the wagons.
IIRC the Jedi order got involved because they realized Dooku was a Sith. And they dont like Sith. Hell there was an entire episode where Ahsoka realizes that most Seperatists arent actually bad and are just sick of how terrible the Republic was.
Ryan Lee
>EFAP I don't hate Mauler but I hate that shit for how circle jerky it is with his furfag friends.
Jedi are just harcore peacecucks who think introducing a rivaling faction will create more bodies than it's worth. They fight for the republic because its the biggest and most stable and gambling on something new is risky.
Kayden Smith
So was Sheev going to win from any side of the war? We know what happens if the republic won, but what if the separatists won?
fpbp. starting s3 the show skyrockets form 5yo babby talk into "real" war. however i'm deeply upset how filoni fucked up Grievous. From a jedi hunter-killer feared by everybody, G was reduced into a fumbling fool who almost loses in his own fortress against literal who jedi and a bunch of clo(w)nes 2019, staying mad
Dominic Martin
i find rags to be very reasonable, but they can go off on tangeants a bit much so i see where you are coming from. i also dont really like wolf's jokes and content most of the time but he can have some good points sometimes
Aaron Kelly
>but what if the separatists won? He never would have let them. He commanded both sides, it's like chess but you control both sets. Plus he had Imperial style star destroyers built en mass waiting for deployment. At Corsacant he finally unveiled them and they wiped out the Confederacy
Chase Fisher
The seperatists were never going to win. Dooku was the main leader of the seperatists and he eats out of Sheevs hand. If worse came to worse and the speratists started doing 'too well' Sheev would just organize a few blunders to balance things out again.
Keep doing this until the corrupt republic are willing to make stupid choices to end the conflict, make yourself all-powerful, and pull the plug on the enemy you were controlling all along.
Jordan Russell
This could have been him if filoni wasn't a cuck restricted by Lucas wanted a mustache twirling villain
The coolest parts are the episodes that explore the broader conflict; the stuff that tries to be "significant" (Ahsoka, a certain character's revival and his brother, the Mortis arc) comes across as contrived. Rebels is pretty similar in that respect, but significantly worse.
didnt they still use venators in the battle of coruscant? or did they retcon it after revenge of the sheev came out?
Adrian Brown
Knowing that he was orchestrating everything, you can assume that if CIS got the upper hand suddenly clone intelligence would provide the jedi army with crucial information allowing them to tip the scales of the war in favor of the Republic. Simple.
Ayden Ward
To be fair to Filoni, he really had to work with everything Lucas gave him. Grievous was way better under Tartakovsky, but Lucas also had all of Genddy's work redone because he had his own ideas for the characters and wanted to get more involved with the production of the show. I mean look at all of the dumb names they had to deal with that Lucas came up with, like Savage Oppress.
Venators for everything on screen when all sides were clashing in the beginning of Ep3, but then the imperial star destroyers came out of hyper space behind the separatists and blew them the fuck out (was old lore, idk if it was concrete in nu lore)
David Morgan
why didnt they show that in the movie, then it would actually have made sense. its not untill the end when anakin is in the suit we see any imperial class SD's
Thomas Parker
The show has too much filler to filter through. Plus the TCW movie was awful.
Owen Watson
Probably George being George writing shit after the fact or lore writers going off; but even if it was realized then the focus of the Ep3 opening was Obi-wan and Anakin going to Grevious's ship to get Palpatin. What would be the point of showing the battle out of nowhere for a brief moment to show "HEY LOOK AUDIENCE, YOU REMEMBER THESE, RIGHT??" and then cutting back to the Dooku fight
The ending of RotS doesn't have any Imperial SDs. They're still Venators just without the red paint. So I'm assuming that they didn't make any Imperial SDs yet and just slowly started to phase out the Venator. youtube.com/watch?v=bbnWm-kw2lQ
Wanna get into the CW too, apparently it wasn't released in chronological order, but there's an official chronological order, should i watch according to it? Is rebels good btw?
Throwing bottles at that space taxi is very irresponsible. Some one below could have been very seriously hurt.
Logan Taylor
Fuck yeah, zoomers gtfo
Andrew Adams
Don't watch chronological, watch release order. If some arc from S1-S2 is boring you feel free to skip it. Halfway through season 3 the show gets consistently good and gets better onwards
Zachary Phillips
It does have its moments sure, but it suffers from having only a fraction of the budget of TCW and I believe they even mention that directly in an interview.
Owen Fisher
There was one that deserted the army and boned a Twi'lek chick
Ayden Bell
There's nothing better than getting some twilek pussy after liberating Riloth
"""They""" could've strung together dozens of episodes to use for the movies that would've been much better but fuck you is literally their view towards you
What I never forgave was that they turned CIS Droids into fucking fumbling baboons. Instead of a menacing terminator-tier silent army we got roger roger and shit.
Wyatt Green
Clone-centric episodes were my favorite. It's amazing how well that show made an army of same-face cannon fodder into very likable and pretty unique characters.
Coruscant Clearwater Regeneration's *Fortunate Clone* starts playing as you watch the clip
Michael Clark
>that camera movement from outside to the middle of the dropship, before the ship explodes and the camera exits through the destroyed hull on the opposite side, showing that clone desperately clinging to life That's better camera work than most fucking movies these days. I need to watch this shit
Dammit, why didn't Disney give the good guys in the sequels any troopers? Those troopers obviously make money.
Eli Martin
After the Mandalorian Filoni should make BoB-esque live-action series about the clone platoon. Or the rebel platoon if CGI droid army is too expensive for live-action series.
The Clone wars is the best evidence that George Lucas is the heart and soul of Star wars since most of the best episodes are based off his outlines.
>give story outlines and what happens in them >they write the dialogue and direct it since he's bad at it >they ask questions and he makes sure it fits into the lore >episodes are incredible thanks to Lucas working his strengths
The biggest mistake was giving George Lucas the power to do everything in Episode 1 to 3 and the Clone wars proves that with people covering his weak points, he can produce absolutely masterpieces any time of the day.
Elijah Jones
But the point was that Dooku used the banking clan, the techno union and the trade federation to escalate the conflict between the two sides so they could profit from the intergalactic war. The biggest problem with the clone wars is that Lucas just wasn't able to pull it all of in a coherent way. Palpatine double and tripple crossed every single player, some like Dooku thought they were part of the double cross but didn't know that Palpatine was playing 9D Sabacc game. All these years later I'm still not quite sure who knew what and how it all fits in the bigger picture.
Jose Rodriguez
Don't forget that kino climax where Master Master confronts his former student
Fuck chicks across the Galaxy while you make Vette watch every time. She's angry but she gets off on it and hungers for your cock more each time until she finally begs for you to take her.
Joshua Morales
Didn't that one clone trooper have a family.
Kayden Long
it was a Twi'lek, which canonically can breed with humans.
Left by a country mile. Still doesn't diminish the enjoyment of the actual show on the right though.
Easton Jones
The trooper claimed he wasn't the biological father, so whether clones are physically capable of reproduction remains unconfirmed.
Elijah White
Friendly reminder that no twi'lek will ever love you.
Dominic Stewart
IV watched 2 or 3 seasons and I hate how they make General Grevious look like such a faggot. The first Clone Wars cartoon, he was a complete savage who slaughtered Jedi easily. In the new Clone Wars cartoon he just gets BTFO and runs away constantly. In the 2 or 3 seasons iv seen, he has only killed 1 Jedi and it was a fucking Padawan.
Nathaniel Long
Blame george for making grievous a generic mustache twirling villian-of-the-week, filoni was following george's lead. While genndy went his own way with grievous.
Samuel Cook
>battlefron 1 and 2 Wins by default desu
Gavin Collins
>people itt don't consider disc 1 of genndywars to be canon to tcw that was the original plan if i remember right. it's why dooku looks so bizarre in tcw and why the show starts when anakin is already a knight
Cameron Sanders
It's an animation you infantile retard
Cooper Morales
I couldn't give a shit what George or the Mouse say, Genny wars (both discs) are canon
Samuel Torres
What about that one guy who worked for Dooku and was basically a worse version of Durge that appeared in the Clone Wars xbox/PS2 game as a boss fight and also the young boba fett novels?
>kids show >half the episodes are people getting brutally murdered ok
Jack Miller
>thinking violence = maturity Old cartoons could be brutal and play them for comedic affect. Subject content declares how its mature. The stories are very simple, we're dealing with arcs that are black and white not Law & Order levels of trauma.
Dylan Butler
Palpatine arranged it so that the Republic would win because he was playing both sides.
However, it is entirely likely that he had backup plans to run the Confederacy instead if the Seperatists happened to win by some fluke of absurd (bad, in this case) luck.
Carson Myers
Umbara Arc > your mother
Kayden Rodriguez
>Old cartoons could be brutal and play them for comedic affect. Old cartoons didn't show people getting ripped out of escape pods to die in the cold vacuum of space or be burned to death with a flamethrower and die screaming >Subject content declares how its mature you mean like an intergalactic war set off by a political power struggle?
Elijah Bennett
Some episodes are expanded upon later with further episodes creating an arc, it's better to watch it in chronological order though the pacing is kinda fucked because Lucasfilm cared more about making as few deviations from the broadcast order as possible while broadcast order was obsessed with 4 episode arcs in the later seasons. I prefer this order.
Rebels is underwhelming, it's the kind of show that works far better in syndication with an episode a day rather than in seasons with weeks and months of nothing in between.
>Old cartoons didn't show people getting ripped out of escape pods to die in the cold vacuum of space Johnny Quest was worse especially with its implications. And I could start listing how brutal Disney movies can be. Lion King has Scar being eaten alive. Ursla gets impaled and electrocuted.
>you mean like an intergalactic war set off by a political power struggle? >by an evil wizard only to gain power I understand what you're saying but Star Wars lacks that deep complexity. The war is started by evil wizards to gain more power. It's not something as complex as the first World War or other wars throughout time. It's meant to be simple.
Is it always you playing the retard in these threads with this red herring
Joshua Martin
They were gamergaters all along.
Ayden Hughes
I also started recently and I feel the same. Those who finished: should I watch in chronological or release order? The episode recaps are retarded when they show eps that haven't even aired yet.
Alexander Sanders
You should really play republic commando.
Isaac Baker
The one from 2008. But it is truly the worst thing about the show. If only one episode can be skipped it should be the movie. Only the first half hour on Christophsis is relevant and not even that part is really essential.