Childhood is admiring Spirited Away

Mononoke is undoubtedly the best ghibli movie by far

This

>a movie about a war criminal

this

Kiki's Delivery Service is the best

these are all true

nausicaa wasn't ghibli right? i guess porco rosso it is. i promised myself to rewatch only yesterday when i turn 27. guess i'll do that this year

Actually that would be Porco, at least if your patrician

Are you literally me

nigga what? it's not even possible to have watch the wind rises as a kid

Childhood is watching Ghibli movies
Adulthood is realizing that they are hack

lmao

Japan Did Nothing Wrong : The Movie

actual best coming through
nausica is a close second

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Was on my phone the whole time besides the first 20 minutes for Wind Rises. I like The Cat Returns.

Adulthood is watching Zack Snyder movies

>dat ending sequence when the celestial beings arrive

Fucking amazing. Completely nailed the bittersweet tone with that awesome music.

Brutal and savagepilled.

They are all good and worth watching.

youtube.com/watch?v=jtFCNu9x1IQ

Underrated film, 50% of the audiences hate it in East Asia (yes, including Japan themselves) because they feel it glorifies war.

However it only showed to how ambition can exploit and ruin a man's dream and shows the horrible outcomes of war

However dumb Chink/Gooks and anti-war Japanese were all like "AAADURR THIS MOVIE GLORIFIES IMPERIAL JAPAN"

But this is the real magnum opus
Kaguya is seriously amazing

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Kaguya is not Ghibli though, is it? Definitely not Miyazaki.

This is beautiful animation.
Is the rest of the film good or is it just eye candy?

I didn't care for either.

starts off kinda slow and childish, but ends super bittersweet almost made me teary and I don't cry ever, the whole film feels like the life cycle of a human being, happy ignorant, violent in the middle, bittersweet in the end

It's the first non Miyazaki Ghibli film, but they spent the most money on the animations for Kaguya, double~triple the spending of any other Ghibli film

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fpbp. only manbabies watch this trash

So which is the quintessential Takahata animated kino?
Only Yesterday or Kaguya?

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>surround or even stereo sound will be too distracting for the audience, so we'll mix the film in mono
>also we'll do all the plane noises with some dude's mouth

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depends on the style
Yesterday gets bonus points for 70s Japan golden-era nostalgia

>magnum opus
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke
Nausicaa manga

>Poignant Masterpieces
Porco Rosso
Only Yesterday

>Grand Adventure
Nausicaa Valley of the Wind
Future Boy Conan
Kiki's Delivery Service
Laputa Castle in the Sky

>Take me Home Countly Load tier
Whisper of the Heart
My Neighbour Totoro
Chie the Brat
Kaguya

>He's a good boy he dindu nuffin tier
The Wind Rises
Kingdom of Dreams & Madness
Castle of Cagliostro

>Whimsical Fun tier
From up on Poppy Hill
Ponyo
Grave of the Fireflies
Heidi Girl of the Alps
Arrietty

>Good but Flawed tier
Howls Moving Castle
Pom Poko
Marnie

>Nigga what the FUCK are you doing tier
Tales from Earthsea
Miyazaki's opinions
Ronja the Robbers Daughter
My Neighbours the Yamadas
The Cat Returns

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And yet it had some of the greatest prop plane sequences in any medium.
That's pretty amazing.

I'll be hoenst Yea Forums i cried like alittle bitch

Is this nostalgiakino?

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I liked it a lot.
What I didn't like so much is how he is recycling the same designs, especially the old lady/witch from Spirited Away.
But this may be just the Alzheimer that is kicking in again.
Everything is a blur now.

>Miyazaki's opinions
lmao so true

Me too

I like thin people.

the doco Kingdom of Dreams and Madness about the making of this (which spends a lot of time up personal with miyazaki, they got amazing access) is an extremely good film of its own right, emotional, even if you weren't interested in ghibli, but watching the process is also fascinating

only yesterday is his best film but i really like Chie the Brat. That's got his really meandering style down perfectly. He kind of reminds me of norm 'not every joke has to have a punchline' and the stuff with the cats fighting and their balls is fucking hilarious and so irellevant to the actual plot even though it becomes the climax of the film.

takahata gave so few fucks he is the man

Me too

I like Kiki's Delivery Service.

yeah, have you seen the documentary about it? so much of it is from his life and his father. It's a really beautiful end to his career. But I think it's one of his weaker films (still amazing).

For something similar, and clearly hugely influenced by miyazaki, i preferred In This Corner of the World.

Don't shoot me but I just didn't like Mononoke.
I liked how it looked but the characters and the story, especially the characters, made me dislike the film.

Have you watched them all?

In what way does The Wind Rises glorify war? Jesus christ, have the people saying this actually watched the movie.

>be ddepressed
>thinking of watching the wind rises, never seen it before and thinking it'll be a cute love story
>watch it
>be depressed even more
t-thanks hayao

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I understand where you're coming from. I think Lady Eboshi & Jibo are fantastic characters, good foils for each other, and fill the role in the story of nuanced antagonists well.
I also like the wolves, the boars, the washer women and eboshi's bodyguard as peripheral characters.
San is alright, not great, but alright, the idea of this anamalistic person being civilised by 'love' does make sense because that's an animalistic drive. But she is a bit empty. But still, cool as fuck.

Ashitaka is a shit character though, yeah. His design and the stuff he does and his elk are fucking awesome though. But as a person he just doesn't really make sense and is a bit boring.

As for not liking the story, i will shoot you.

all of those ones, yeah
that's just my personal opinion

I haven't seen ocean waves yet or the red turtle and probably a few others.

any other animation studios that draw like this?
holy shit Ghibli has such a strong nostalgia effect on their animation

Mononoke has one of the most poignant moments in Miyazaki's films, when Ashitaka and San part ways , even after it is clear they love each other. They understand that San cannot suddenly just start living among people, and Ashitaka cannot give up on his tribe and family either. True wisdom and totally subverts the platitudes of "fuck everyone else, love conquers all and we'll be together".

Should've watched Whispers of the Heart. You would've been suicidal by the end.

Nausicaa is Ghibli, and the god damn BEST Ghibli at that

It's often straight out taboo discussing anything about WW2, even in Japan people just consider it lost memory and never mention it
I was surprised how my Japanese students knew so little about WW2

Might be a symptom of Japans somewhat unhealthy relationship with its imperial past. Pretending it never happened and just avoiding the subject.

I watched that with my only girlfriend in high school. Doesn't hold a candle to Nausicaa, Spirited Away, or Mononoke though

Technically it's not Ghibli, although practically it is.
Nausicaa started Ghibli.
It's my favourite Miyazaki film I haven't watched them all and honestly I don't plan to, I'm too old and I don't have kids.

Fuck you, porco rosso is pure kino.
He's a pig, and a pilot! I'm sure Disney was kicking themselves after it came out

yeah i love little contradictions and turns like that in films
i think the film still leaves the ability for an optimist to put them together a bit later when they're ready though, that kind of open for interpretation ending where the story plays on in your head is really clever

pic related is not the same, in a good way, it's not derivative, it has its own style. but it is equally beautiful.

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Most of Ghibli's work is very watchable by people of all ages.

I agree
>Nausicaa
Best story, best characters, best hero's journey, great visuals, loved the sequence when the giant fires the canon (thank you Anno), honest traditional animation, best film
>Spirited Away
Great visuals, likeable characters, greater than the sum of it's parts
>Mononoke
Good visuals, rest is meh

I honestly pity the man - no matter his age - who cannot find the joy in Miyazakis work.

youtube.com/watch?v=KgEQNlR4A6o

Why the fuck is Ghibli music so god damn good?

I can find joy, I can't just live with myself knowing I'm a 40 year old virgin and I'm watching and enjoying cartoons

Okay so from this thread I've gathered that
The Wind Rises
The Tale of Princess Kaguya
Whispers of the Heart
are all depression kino and will help me feel that misery that I crave. Is this correct?

Be at peace with yourself my friend.

>In what way does The Wind Rises glorify war?
I think it's overly convenient that the main guy falls in with the anti-war German and gets inadvertantly offside with the kampei tai

It allows him to be these dreamy guy who gets swept along into a war machine by his love of planes, and then it puts him on the 'good guys' team along with self sacrifice.
I think the story would have been much more sophisticated if there had not been that character and he had had to live with complicity, and never been given a life where he's fighting against the war.

If you didn't know, the character is based a lot on Miyazaki's father, who got rich selling war plane parts in the war. He never had the kampei tai after him, he never fell in with a German anti-facist spy, this is all Hayao basically cheating this guy who is him + his father into a morally simplistic position, giving his film a slightly boring 'thrilling' climax, and undermining the larger more interesting question which his own film discusses.

It's great, some anime, not just Ghibli, have great music
youtube.com/watch?v=9D_N5gL6zUc

Is that so?
Picked up an amazing artbook from nausicaa at a Ghibli exposition in Nagasaki some years ago, browsing through it always makes me wanna rewatch. It has the most stunning artwork imo.

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Only Yesterday pharmaceutical grade feels. Ending makes me tear up.

to put it simply, Miyazaki doesn't leave the question of if his protagonist is a 'good guy', open ended.
He IS a good guy.

And that's a cop-out.

Personally prefer this simple piano rendition of Chiyoko's Theme.

youtube.com/watch?v=h_VcsqcUXAY

best scene
youtube.com/watch?v=pSzMBOr6qI8

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Never seen this movie but I'm inclined to dislike it because a lot of people i dislike like it

I think Nausicaa has the best, most honest and pure expression of Miyazaki's ideas
>environmentalism
>dangers of technology
>stong female character
>flying machines
And the visuals are top notch, some sequences are so unbelievably good (the dream sequence, the giant rises) and the concepts and art direction.
It's fucking great!

>All these movies combined have a smaller box office than Thor Ragnarock

Cringe why are you fags talking about culturally irrelevant cartoons.

What a curious way to think.

Have a (you), spend it wisely

It's SOOOOOOO fucking BOOOORRIIIIIINNNGGGGGGG

no cohesive story to it at all, from a westerners perspective

But the protagonist isn't a war monger though. His goals and motivations are different.

I thought The Cat Returns was pretty good.

Spirited Away was so good, even if only for the visuals and music

It's almost as if social justice mobs don't care about universally loved things that already exist with what they're asking for.

It was a fun little flick. Mid tier stuff. Didn't disappoint but didn't come close to top tier Ghibli.

>goals and motivations

Miyazaki's father's goal was to support his family and his motivation was that he loved aeroplanes and was a good buisinessman yet he ended up a cog in a fascist war machine, and achieved his goals and satisfied his motivations, through the suffering of others.

Whether he's a 'good person' or not doesn't just come from his goals and motivations.
You're not really even addressing what I said.

It felt pretty short, but I enjoyed it and the ending theme is pretty sad

>be ddepressed
Nigga just smile lmao

It was not the first non Miyazaki film m8. Takahata is the other father of Ghibli (Fireflies,PomPoko,Only Yesterday etc) and there was Kondo. Annoys me when people assume Ghibli was only Miyazaki when Takahata made some of the best in their library. Kaguya is vastly superior to Wind rises.

first (after retirement), my mistake

? they made their films at the same time

Isn't Kaguya released later?
if not nvm

yeah but they made them at the same time and they intended to release them together but takahata is a lazy cunt lol

Using stupid expressions like cog in a machine doesn't cover it. It was a choice, and a good one. The fighting was not even close to being his decision anyway. Should we stop using fire because someone might be hurt?
Not even mentionning the retardation of the supposed collective guilt. Especially 70 years later. War guilt being a very dishonest concept anyway.

One of the few movies that made me tear up.

Why is spring such a great time for Ghibli movies bros?

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>watching SBS
>scehdule of random anime, foreign film then ghibli film into the late night
absolute kino, don't think ill ever experience something so comfy ever again.

laputa castle in the sky is the best ghibli movie, followed by princess mononoke

Spirited away and howl's moving castle are shit don't @ me

Incredibly based opinion, I agree

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>when his dying wife flips open the blanket to let him into bed after working late

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Lazy cunt...or perfectionist? that is why Kaguya is the better film...If anything Miyazaki's Wind Rises was rushed. Miyazaki's last solid film was Porco. Mononoke was flawed. Spirited away was great but lacked cohesion. Howl's was a piss poor adaption and a mess. Ponyo was mediocre and a mess. Wind Rises was drivel and looked cheap.

Laputa and Porco for me. Spirited away was pretty and Howl's was just plain bad.

Best animated romance ever..all they had was each other. Fucking love this film.

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>looked cheap
sakugabooru.com/post/show/14317

You read Nausicaa not watch it you utter fucking plebs

Godhood is acknowledging that The Tale Of The Princess Kaguya is Ghibli's Magnum Opus

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Based.

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The best Ghibli film is in the eye of the beholder.

no

vimeo.com/176099556

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Heh, the medium I consume my chinese cartoons through is vastly superior to your plebeian format!