Who was in the wrong here?

What does the 's' stand for?

Black Panther is diverse though. You see how a lot of different cultures exist in their country, despite being all native. Only brainlets can't look past skin colors.

Diversity means every country becomes north Africa.

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That image is fake btw, here's the original

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What a hyper nationalist authoritarian piece of detritus.

"It's not diverse in isolation, but rather it adds diversity to the universe of Hollywood films (and MCU). That is an important distinction. Nobody claims (or should claim) that the movie itself is diverse."

Better explained

>Nobody claims (or should claim) that the movie itself is diverse.
They literally do though, all the damn time. Maybe that whole 'diversity of the hollywood universe' thing is the high verbal IQ spin that (((someone))) put on the idea to make it more palatable to people with brain stems, but at the end of the day it's being celebrated for having almost no white people in it.

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That's not how diversity works.

>Nobody claims (or should claim) that the movie itself is diverse.
Yes they do. All the fucking time

>Nobody claims (or should claim) that the movie itself is diverse."
Nonsense, they absolutely do. Google "black panther hella diverse" for just one example.

>Nobody claims (or should claim) that the movie itself is diverse.

Hmmm...

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Yeah 1 facebook video
If you google articles discussing the movie most don't use the word diverse they talk about how it's more black representation in movies due to the fact it has an all black cast

boo hoo baby

after 10 or so movies being predominantly white black people get once movie thats mostly black and you motherfuckers start crying up a storm even when you have a white ass savior person in the movie placed there pretty much solely so yall dont feel too bad

you guys are such bitches bro

There's no other reason besides
>BUT THE FOOD user

In a management position diversity means different perspectives which is why it adds value

I don't even think that's true or accurate (maybe for MCU). I think the real argument that is desperately trying to be avoided is one of popularity. Because then it's not about a lack of effort if not some insidious conspiracy on the part of media to produce "diverse" material but a question of what the public actually goes to see.

didn't you know that unless a movie isn't 100% white and completely apolitical (unless it's being right wing, then it's okay) that it's jewish liberal propaganda

But diversity of thought is the one kind of diversity shitlibs actively fight against.

In theory, diversity of cultures and opinions would lead to less circlejerks and force people to consider other sides to a situation before making up their mind. In this fantasy scenario, diversity would be considered good, and it still is in some cases. Groups of students, for instance, benefit from a multitude of different backgrounds as such, at least right up until the point where they have to actually produce something and not just squabble over differences. On a societal scale, diversity usually just equates more rapes.

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Yeah I don't know but whites need to fuck off white women already fuck their own dogs and Indians marry them you aryans belong back in your caves

>reddits not bas...

>one year and two months later, Yea Forums still seething over BP

I mean it showed that there was a huge market for an all black big blockbuster movie

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I hate when people spout this shit. As if business and research were limping in homogeneous countries. As if importing people from utterly alien cultures, races, religions and societies will somehow make everyone happier and more productive and more cohesive.

If they really want diversity of thought or perspective then why not actively advertise positions for people of right-wing dispositions to add much needed perspective to their HR departments or managerial positions; they are more than happy to specify race and gender for diversity hires, even though it's a complete double standard and an overtly anti-white discriminatory practice.

They don’t even realize it’s going to happen to all races too

are you seriously trying to downplay the fact that you're whining over one black movie out of 15 or so white ones by saying that i'm not a part of your echochamber?

what a fuckin' snowflake

>nobody
>except this video with 80,000 shares
>and every black person on Twitter

But trust me other than that only like half of the articles praise it for its diversity.

You made this thread yourself, though

Still a shit reasoning. Diversity has no end goal.

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>except this video with 80,000 shares
wow 80,000 so literally 1/8th of the population of the smallest state in america

Who is complaining about a nigger movie being made? This thread is about the fact that diverse is code for no white people.

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I mean your original stance was nobody so it's a bit of a leap to 80,000.

I've always found that's not even the case.

When people say "diversity" they're not talking about more Asians, or even more Latinos or more Middle Easterners. Diversity means exactly one thing.

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When being discussed purely in the context of Hollywood representation means that more roles go to people not normally in the lead roles of movies, around 80% of movies are predominantly white casts which aligns more with the us population and it is up from the 70s-90s where it was about 94% white

>Who is complaining about a nigger movie being made?
Is this actually your first day on Yea Forums

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there are three white people in the film, one of them is the person who saves everyone's asses.

if you're hating on one word then fine hate the fact that one word is being used to define a film on social media where words get distorted on the daily. i just don't see the point in narrowing in on it.

>I defend niggers on the Internet, that makes me a good person

who said anything about being a good person i do it because i like dunking on people

Ye the idea is more like -ya don't want everyone on a board of directors to have the same work background like everyone being a former accountant or everyone from finance or like construction

>"Diversity is our strength"
>says country that becomes weaker, more corrupt, more dysfunctional and more diverse every single year
When's that strength gonna start kicking in

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That may be a somewhat reasonable idea in theory (in truth I haven't seen any evidence one way or the other in my personal experience or in any data I've looked at), but that is certainly NOT what they mean in practice. Implementing 'diversity' programs literally just means fewer whites and fewer men.

>ha! if i just raised my standards higher, eventually they will not be able to defeat my original argument which was that nobody said it was diverse, CHECKMATE

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here's the thing, when you elect someone whos whole thing is combatting diversity it kinda puts a damper on the whole having it as our strength thing

You have to remember, when they say 'our', they don't mean your strength, or your family of friends or neighbours strength, they mean (((our))) strength. Parasitic elites thrive on a diverse populace because it's less cohesive, puts up less resistance, is overall dumber, more impulsive, more eager to repress upstarts, easier to manipulate and less likely to ask questions.

What the fuck reddit is based now??

When 90% of a board is racist conservatives, having liberal opinions are necessary so it doesn't become a nazi circlejerk

when your argument is "LITERALLY EVERYONE" meanwhile it's an incredibly small percentage, there's more people here who think black people are subhumans than there are people who shared that video

And Tyler Perry movies didn't?
There's always been a thriving market for all black or black lead movies.
What no one will mention though is that no one gave a shit about Black Panther until the Black Panther movie. The success of other capeshit movie is largely a built in fan base generating buzz or guaranteeing a certain amount of viewership for said movie. And Black Panther didn't have that really, but niether did MOST of the MCU movies, Iron Man, Ant Man Guardians of the Galaxy, none of them were hugely popular properties before their movies, same with Captain Marvel. And why because as best they could Marvel pushes those characters on the public as much as they can in the months and years leading up to the movie, suddenly they end up in cartoons suddenly they're parts of popular teams that they have never been on or haven't been on in over a decade. It's manufactured POPULARITY that drives these films success rather than any actual interest in the character/property. Black Panther could have been any minority Marvel character and done just about as well. If you don't believe me wait until Shang Chi comes out in the next couple of years. He'll be back in the comics and Yea Forums will be alight with threads about internet "articles" that address the lack of Asian American roles in Hollywood. There will be some controversy about the importance of Asian representation in Hollywood and how only bigots are against this movie. And it will do just as well as every other Marvel movie.

Wow because as America has gotten more diverse our GDP has rose and violent crime has dropped

You misunderstand; they honestly believe that words don't have definitions. A word to them is no more than its connotations. Why do you think they changed "illegal alien" to "undocumented immigrant"? It's not because it's a more accurate description. Why do they call neocons and libertarians and Pewdiepie "actual Nazis"? Or why did they change "Negro" to "colored" to "black" to "African-American" and "colored person" to "minority" to "person of color"? They even have to change their own name; a hundred years ago they were progressives, and now after "liberal" has earned a negative connotation they're moving back to "progressive". To them, a word is a political tool. If you say something they disagree with, they will feign offense at a word you chose. If an idea they're pushing gets rejected by the populace, they'll change what they call it. They're always keeping ahead of the verbal arms race; start calling them "snowflakes" and they'll throw it right back at you.
I can't begin to exposit how totally they are motivated by connotations and connotations alone. It's a subset of "feels over reals". But just for an example, remember "nevertheless, she persisted"? What does it mean? Nothing. Where did it come from? Nowhere. But it damn sure would sound good as a feminist children's book, and they'll use it as their motto until it stops producing dopamine.

Here's the quote you're attempting to defend you illiterate retard.
>Nobody claims (or should claim) that the movie itself is diverse.
Funny how you're forced to change to
>it's an incredibly small percentage
when shown that you're an incompetent fool.

>And Tyler Perry movies didn't

Not to the extent that any of them were a gigantic hit, they had their loyal audience and made a decent amount but black panther is the highest grossing MCU movie domestically, your argument about oh well everything marvel puts out is huge just isn't right because Ant man, Thor, Captain America 1, Dr Strange didn't do that well

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Yeah I copy and pasted a reddit post I felt described the topic better, it got 10 replies of people autistically screaming that it was everyone in hollywood because a facebook video got 80,000 shares, I responded that, that's an incredibly small amount of people and we met in the middle that some people feel that all black is diverse and just going by the numbers that would mean a majority do not

Yea but they also didn't have the huge (free) marketing campaign of if you don't see this/support this then you're racist.

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For reference I live on long island and go to an incredibly predominantly jewish and black college

The conversation around the film was that if you dislike it solely due to the fact that the cast was black yeah you are probably a racist outside of that many people thought it was just another superhero movie

youtube.com/watch?v=FJfUu1LKn44

This guy gets it.

If you want to get metaphysical about it the liberal (or leftist) at his core is anti-order, anti-hierarchy, which subsumes stuff like the definitions of words - the definitions are essentially an authority on the meaning of that word and are thus 'oppressing' the word, hence meanings should be allowed to change at will and mean anything and nothing depending on what makes you happy. This anti-hierarchy is what fuels their political praxis by attacking anything resembling order, which must by definition be something controlling another which they perceive as evil in all instances.

The conservative (meant only in the sense of being the antithesis to the liberal; you get what I mean) however is pro-order, pro-hierarchy because he reaslises that, not only are hierarchies natural, they are beneficial to society in the vast majority of cases. This is not to say that there are unjust impositions of power on people, there absolutely are - take the current monopolistic tech giants for example - but this doesn't mean that say, criminal statistics are immoral (something which the liberal would say IS immoral). They are what they are and they arise naturally and transcend things like socio-economic class and upbringing. That's just one example but you understand what I'm getting at.

The liberal seeks to break down, to subvert, to destroy, whereas the conservative seeks to build up, to maintain and to empower.

oh no people think differently from me must be a shill
>imagine unironically posting a tucker carlson video
youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
remember that time jon stewart destroyed him so bad he lost his show and his job

If Jon Stewart is so above it all & legit, why did he change his name from Jonathan Leibowitz? He should be proud of his heritage!

If you're forced to attack the source and not the content, you're admitting defeat as you show you don't have a rebuttal.

>outside of that many people thought it was just another superhero movie

I would agree, I also agree about the you might be racist if you have a problem with all black casts. But then why does "just another superhero movie" perform so much better than the other superhero movies? And in my opinion, that's because it had a huge promotional push to succeed regardless of it's quality and it had a huge cultural push to succeed regardless of it's quality.

> that some people feel that all black is diverse and just going by the numbers that would mean a majority do not
Because something only got so many responses on a website? Going by your logic majority of Americans are okay with racial supremacy as only a few hundred thousand people responded condemning racial supremacy attack #37.

It's just brainwashing. The word diversity is completely seperated from what diversity entails.
Think about it logically, have you, at any point in your life, wanted someone you were interacting with to have different likes, interests, dislikes than you? Do you put your favourite movie or song on for someone you care about or could care about and feel joy when they say it's shit and they don't like it at all? Do you feel happy when you're hanging out with someone and they want to put on a show, song or movie by someone you absolutely hate? Nobody who preaches the benefits of diversity actually considers what diversity means. It's an empty mantra.
Of course they have that one argument which can't be argued against because apparently white people are physically unable to make their own tacos.

the diversity comes from majority white films vs black panther/get out/Us

>We're trying to design a new add for our facial cleanser for women
>Undoontoo from the urka urga tribe, what are your thoughts?
>Tell women, buy skin potion or we make axe smiles cut their red water out and drink it

yeah let me sit though an 11 minute video and refute every cherry picked stat, to make a point to an anonymous poster, americas violent crime rate has been dropping as we become less white, and our gdp has risen shouldn't it be the complete opposite?????

Why did donald trump change his last name or 90% of hollywood actors because it looks better, unless your john cena and have a cool name you change it so people care about you.

>Americans are okay with racial supremacy as only a few hundred thousand people responded condemning racial supremacy attack #37
except you destroy your own argument there because the articles that get the most shares are, "white supremacist arrested for x" which is why people feel there is a shift towards a more racist society in the last few yars because now you have people who are respected by the right who have beliefs such as "black people are inferior to whites and we should be a white ethnostate"

ya it's called capeshit

That implies all people from a group think a like and speak for the whole group, which is a racist point of view

yeah blockbusters are rarley seen as High Art, which is why $ doesnt equal quality otherwise, Kobayashi or Tarkovsky films would gross billions, the majority of high grossing films need to appeal to the most people which real cinema never will

It also implies that a hood rat would be the optimal choice of a diversity hire. It's just another mantra of the leftist religion to justify their obsession.

GDP doesn't mean shit. If we used that as a metric we would say that india is better than switzerland. Only per capita matters.

>violent crime has been dropping
Because you're not looking at the whole picture. Violent crime has gone up since the 1965 immigration act.

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I want you both to give a real world, non vague example of this.

>people feel there is a shift towards a more racist society in the last few yars because now you have people who are respected by the right who have beliefs such as "black people are inferior to whites and we should be a white ethnostate"
imagine living in a country where people are literally discriminated against based on their race IN LAW, and where this is considered a good thing by the left side of the political spectrum, and pretending like the right are making things more racist

I have literally, unironically, zero hyperbole or misrepresentation, had conversations with leftists who tell me that racism is good when it's done for the right reason, and this is - again - A MAINSTREAM POLITICAL POSITION and has been so for DECADES
I'll give you an extra (You) if you can figure out what I'm talking about

but seriously, liberals are unironically everything they complain about others being. they're the most racist, sexist, bigoted people you can possibly find. they're even starting to overtake the right in the realm of homophobia, since, turns out, their anti-male practices hurt gay men more than they hurt straight men and so gay men are starting to oppose them. they tried for a while (again, literally) to take away people's right to BE GAY if they've got the wrong politics (like peter thiel), but eventually they figured out that denying GAY PEOPLE the right to BE GAY didn't make any sense, so now they're shifting to calling gays "the straight white men of the LGBTBBQ+ community", and of course asserting that gay men are the most misogynistic of all men

it's... ALMOST literally impossible to satirize the left at this point. it's so far beyond the realm of anything remotely resembling rational or indeed COMPASSIONATE behaviour that the only way to articulate an insane position someone on the mainstream left doesn't genuinely hold is to have them litearlly genociding people in your satirical presentation of them.

and even that...

Imagine putting together hundreds of different cultures and expecting it all to work flawlessly.
Diversity is a joke and America is the clown.

>imagine living in a country where people are literally discriminated against based on their race IN LAW, and where this is considered a good thing by the left side of the political spectrum, and pretending like the right are making things more racist
In what way?
Also for someone set on the idea of objective truth you have a ton of anecdotal evidence

I don't even know how anyone can unironically claim the vague concept of white privilege is a thing anymore. I literally see no advantages anymore that white people get and I'm Asian and I get more privilege then they do.

I'm not saying that one race or culture is inferior to another, I'm just saying it's better for all of us to live separately, and that's a fact.

not him but I imagine he's talking about affirmative action

I already gave you study groups as an example where it sort of works sometimes. Did you even read my post?

This. I really don't hate people of other races simply for the fact that they were born into those races. In fact, I don't 'hate' them in any kind of generalised sense. There are individuals that I actively hate, but there are individuals of all races, including my own that I hate based on their actions and behaviours. I simply recognise that it is more beneficial for my people if we are not burdened with diversity.

I don't believe that any race is 'superior' or 'inferior' in any abstract moral sense of the words.

If you want to talk about IQ scores or lifetime average earnings or criminal conviction incidence then fine that's an interesting topic to talk about and there are clear racial trends that emerge, but I don't for one second consider myself better or non-whites inferior for those trends. What I do recognise is that it's better for me and my race to be separate from others.

Bowling Alone is still true 19 years later, as are the follow up studies that arose from it like the manchester one.

>gdp has risen
If the net resource drain population drains wealth slower than the productive population can make it, gdp will go up. This doesn't change the fact that the country as a whole would be wealthier without them.

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>let me sit through an 11 minute video
yeah,it's not hard

What you said was vague. I asked for a real world example. What you are saying sounds like me being stuck on a math problem and Umboku from Nigeria comparing Calculus to Zebra hunts he did in the Savannah or some shit that doesn't happen. Make up an actual real world example. Green text it or something.

interesting how this was originally said about italians and the irish and russians and they had no problem integrating to the british, it's almost as if theres an initial culture shock and eventually things start evening out

That's not discrimination, it's only discrimination for asians there have been no cases of incredibly under qualified people being given opportunities they shouldn't have. it balances out the wealth inequality to try to make up for the benefits most middle class whites have

Funnily enough the same people who say look how our GDP has risen since immigration will post that shit about how the 0.0001% own half the wealth in America or some shit and never make a connection, or else they'll post that productivity versus wage graph which suddenly flatlines when immigration hits as an argument for why you "shouldn't be blaming immigrants for what the wealthy business owners are doing" as if every fucking employer in America suddenly decided, as one cohesive group, to flatline earnings on a particular fucking day of a particular fucking year.

We had that back before the forced integration laws known as civil rights. Now they have to be dealt with, because they're using the government to siphon resources.

>and eventually things start evening out
Yea except this is not happening now

Sure buddy.

>that's not discrimination
>it's discrimination

This is your brain on liberalism.

Sure what?

>brain
>liberalism

>Why did donald trump change his last name
He didn't, his great-grandfather did because in order to integrate with America.

>we had that

Nah man you never had that.
As soon as spaniards discovered America, all the reckless psychos flooded in to get that lmaogold and from that point on it was already a mistake.
Should've stayed home with people like yourself and no room for conflict.

Man I don't fucking know. Diversity doesn't work anyway. The closest I can think of pertains to healthcare and rehabilitation, where you'd have a team of doctors, nurses, physical therapists, psychologists etc. That's "diversity" understood as differences in profession. As I said, diversity meaning "more brown people" does nothing but increase rape and murder statistics.

>interesting how this was originally said about italians and the irish and russians and they had no problem integrating to the british
Are you fucking kidding, there's still MAJOR problems going on even hundreds of years later. The IRA still exists, Polish are constantly mocked in British culture and are seen as a completely different group of people, and Italians are essentially a different race to most Brits.

I actually did and this is the exact thing every conservative gets mad at liberals for it's all anecdotal evidence, well how sad is this one person getting killed also instead of trying to unify people let's instead advocate that we do the opposite of unifying and separating people based on their race and culture it's mental gymnastics from someone who thinks of other races as lesser

every single time it took full generations to happen, reactionaries

Your whole autistic rant was how WHITE PEOPLE are being discriminated against meanwhile the only people being graded on a negative curve are asians, which I recognized, also most affirmative action positions are made separate and not taken from whites

(((White)))

Im talking about america not EUROPOOR

1) they do
2) even if they didn't it would still be dishonest to use "diverse" in that fashion

I don't understand the modern liberal. You are under employed. Maybe work two jobs. Make shit money. Have student loan debt. Can't buy a home. Can't start a family. Despite all that you refuse to admit immigration is an issue because you would rather "own rethuglicans" rather than admit there are some real issues. So you ignore the issues and just throw whataboutisms whenever someone challenges you.

But affirmative action is literally the policy of giving incredibly under qualified people opportunities they shouldn't be receiving. Blacks are getting into places like Columbia with a 1200 SAT, places way above their merit, and it's reflected in all the metrics when they graduate.

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>meanwhile the only people being graded on a negative curve are asians
You're using a curve that has whites with the only other ethnic group below them being asians. Is it not discrimination any more if another group is being discrimination against at a higher rate?

>are made separate and not taken from whites
What the fuck does that even mean? Is this as retarded as it looks to be?

>crying about military conquest in the 1500s
lmao. That's the way the world worked up until 60 years ago.

We've had generations. Things are getting worse. Again there is no trend to show people are integrating in fact it's quite the opposite considering how many ethnic enclaves we have and ethnic politicians supported by people who look like them.

Learn what "diversity" really means.

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Affirmative action is more than just curves for Asians you idiots. It gives preferences for non white people in general so yes it's discriminating

funny but fuck "diversity"

>they had no problem integrating to the british
>Im talking about america not EUROPOOR
Then type what you mean, people can't read your mind. And even then Italians didn't integrate worth a shit, organized crime is still a major problem and on the east coast it's mostly fucking Italians. Irish were treated as less than slaves and basically had their entire culture grounded into dust in America, and Russians never came at any significant quantity in early America.

Don't forget it's getting even worse with the popularization of the Internet.

>i actually did
so address the arguments instead of the personalities
>advocate that we do the opposite of unifying and separating people based on their race and culture it's mental gymnastics from someone who thinks of other races as lesser
what the god damn fuck what are you on tucker isn't a white nationalist

Most British people actually don't give two fucks about Poles. That's the media, trying to deflect from the kiddy diddlers from the Orient.

Protip: one group getting a free 150 SAT points is the same as all other groups losing 150 SAT points. Grading is relative, not absolute. If some kid with a 1250 gets a boost to 1400, that's a university slot denied to some more qualified kid who got a 1350.

I already gave an example. You don't want everyone on a board to be accountants or everyone on a board to be construction workers or lawyers. In general an accountant is trained to think like an accountant and a lawyer is trained to think like a lawyer.
Don't misunderstand im not arguing for diversity in a racial sense but this isn't rocket science and shouldn't be hard to comprehend

Give an actual non vague real world example. Greentext a story here. Everything you have said so far is vague. Make something up to illustrate your point

>theoretical example
Nah. Theory lives in retardland with the garbage like hybrid vigor. Give an actual demonstration.

That's literally implying that race and determines thoughts and that all people of a matching race/gender will think the same way.

You're a racist and a sexist.

Nice fake post

You have not actually given an answer and the closest vague nonsense you said doesn't even involve race but class professions which actually goes against what you are saying because anyone can be a cop or an engineer or a fireman.

>Violent crime has gone up since the 1965 immigration act.

Correlation is not causation. There are a shit ton of theories as to why crime climbed during the 60s and started falling in the 90s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead–crime_hypothesis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
They're all just that: theories.

DESPITE BEING

Its a fact that if you deported all blacks and hispanics, crime would fall to the white only levels.

If a certain group of people cause a lot of crime, and their numbers are growing then yes it has to do with those people. That's basic math.

People were saying the same thing about Crazy Rich Asians

Diverse means non-White

Why do black people deserve anything?

Do these hold up when compared to populations outside of the United States?

That isn't how science or statistics work. To prove a causal link between the violent crime rate and the 1965 immigration act you would need to establish that the increase in violent crime was exclusive to immigrant populations from 1965-1990.
Yes, but that has nothing to do with the rise of crime being tied to the 1965 immigration act.

>black people get

This is the problem you niggers have. You see movies that have people in it with the same skin pigmentation as you as "gets" something which is sad and pathetic. Why not raise your kids instead of worrying how many black people are in a superhero movie.

13% OF

STOP THAT CLOWN

You genuienly are naive if you think all accountants don't share the same mindset when approaching a problem.
Also in general people choose a profession based on how they think and fit into it which already creates a group think

Keep in mind I am talking about people with actual careers. You may be thinking of your minimum wage job you're at during college which obviously will be different

Black people don’t create anything, so “getting” is the only option for them.

That is how stats work. We have crime stats that show how minorities cause a lot of crime. Thus as their numbers grow we will have more crime. This is basic math your tiny nigger brain can't comprehend for some reason.

Let me put it in ways you might understand. If there are ten nigger convicts and I give one of them watermelon and grape soda I end the hunger of 1. The more nigger convicts I give watermelon and grape soda to, the more that ar content. Do you require a basketball analogy?

This. If your kid needs someone on a screen to look up to you've failed as a human.

People talk about the film making the movie industry as a whole more diverse, not the movie itself.

I honestly don't know. I won't pretend to know all the facts either, but this looks like a promising read if you want to see more.

precaution.org/lib/crime_trends_and_lead.070601.pdf

He literally can't. Its all theory. lmao.

Why is it impossible for you to greentext a made up story to support your argument and instead can only speak in vague statements that don't involve race?

that's just an odd conspiracy theory that no one with an adequate education takes seriously

Really? Then why didn't crime continuously rise as opposed to falling in 1990 even though the white population of the US has steadily declined from 1940 to 2010?

The stats are here, and prove your statement to be false.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Age_distribution:_1940_and_2010

>Black people don’t create anything
>Steve McQueen
>Spike Lee
>Ryan Coogler
>Forest Whitaker
>F. Gary Gray
>Antoine Fuqua

>the increase in violent crime was exclusive to immigrant populations
>monocausality
Fuck off. Nothing is caused by one thing. The claim here is that 1965 immigration act contributed to the increase in hispanics, which increased the violent crime rate. Additionally, if we were to reverse this policy by deporting the hispanics, the crime rate would go back down to white levels.

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You showed a chart about population stats nothing about crime stats.

THE POPULATION

Yea but non-white in a /pol/ sense or non-white as in black people? This guy is right in that diversity actually means "black people." It doesn't mean Chinese, it doesn't mean Columbian, it sure as fuck doesn't mean French or German or Spanish, it means Black. And the more primordial and primitive the Black the more "diverse."If your office hired a Zulu warrior, stuck an African mask on him, put a spear in his hand, and let him show up in other traditional garb and had him just wander around the office and maybe change some paper in a printer once in a while, you could market your office as so diverse that you could hire people so white that light reflects off them and people would look the other way. It's more code word bullshit that is so common in the modern age.

it's because libtards are the real racists and I don't because they're anti white.

it's that they're anti black/asian/etc like the white supremacists but in a hypocritical way.

The expect white films to be diverse but they don't expect asian films, bollywood films, chinese, nigerian or black films to feature a diverse cast because they still quietly operate under the presumption that other races are less than white people and therefore don't need to be held to the same ethical standards as white people.

Not an argument at all. I think you realized I was right and are trying to convince yourself you only wanted (you)s this whole time
How about this
>I'm a small town banker
>Literally all my coworkers and I are Republicans and take similar steps when approaching a problem in a business, govt, and personal budgeting or even just reading some news article
You could argue we're just not retards but at the same time we lack diversity in the way we attack a problem if we all immediately think the same way on a certain topic.
Technically we'd need a retard and liberal to understand what others are thinking the main cause of a problem is
I don't care about their opinions but technically we aren't diverse at all even though we have people of different races working here
Again, not hard to understand

>monocausality
Stop being retarded. X% of the current crime rate is caused by nonwhites that were brought in by the 1965 immigration act. That crime will disappear if they are no longer here. Its really that simple. You don't have to prove that LITERALLY ALL CRIME was caused by them for this to be true.

Because you're using fallacious reasoning, and saying that because something is a factor it must be the ONLY factor. That's a global trend, most likely caused by technology, both in security measures and also in the fact that people are less liklely to commit crimes if they're inside with the distractions like the internet.
You're using so much pilpul but you can't escape the fact that we have crime rates by race. Are you seriously trying to say if all the black people in the US disappeared tomorrow suddenly whitey would start murdering at a much higher rate? Are you that deluded?

Is this a troll? Has the guy that made this argument ran away and now you are shit posting as him?

>muh theory
This is how we get hybrid vigor garbage. Substantiate your claims nigger.

I have a white liberal friends whose gf got beaten and raped jogging in Baltimore. He would get angry anytime anyone asked him for the race of the perpetrators. Liberalism really is a mental disorder.

Okay here's the crime stats.
disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
>Are you seriously trying to say if all the black people in the US disappeared tomorrow suddenly whitey would start murdering at a much higher rate?

No because I don't make claims which can't be backed up by evidence. That would be like claiming that just because all blacks disappeared from the US crime wouldn't rise. You are literally guilty of the same delusion you are trying to accuse me of, and the only thing your scenario could guarantee is a temporary decline in the crime rate.

He's mad because she wasn't raped, she just likes it when the bull gets rough.

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Separate but equal. Based!

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Once again you are failing to understand math. If the majority of violent crimes are being done by a certain amount of people taking away those people would lower that crime. Those stats also explain that as whites are doing less crime that matches up with these numbers. You seem to not comphrend that without niggers and spics those linked numbers would dramatically go down.

I think he's one of them NPC fellows. The kind who lives through other peoples eyes and is simply empty inside. Whose morals and values are all dictated by those around them, and have nevre had an instrospective thought in their life.
It would explain it. Someone like that would probably think that two people in the same job would be essentially the same person. They don't have the concept of introspective values or ideals. To someone like that, two people in the same job would be pretty much the same person because they're the same person in other peoples eyes.

>Nobody claims that the movie itself is diverse
yikes

Lol nice try but ya can't get out of this. U simply have no argument and are trying to change the business definition of diversity lmao
I win easy. Don't try and back out of losing disgracefully like just accept it

Retard, the assumption is that everything else is constant. His case is literally the null hypothesis. Its on you to prove that whites will deviate from the norm, because the default assumption is that they will continue doing what they always do.

>What does it have over a homogeneous cast or audience?

Flavor and perspectives that are new and interesting that help you understand people and the world better. If you just watch white movies with only white people centered stories you end up uninformed and nearsighted, thinking only white perspective and voice matters.

Imagine if all you watched was capeshit movies from the 90s/00s because you think that's all that is interesting. It's the same thing. Everybody would laugh at how small your pallet is.

>people don't get raped and beat up in Baltimore

This illustrates another issue with the left, the ivory towers they live in as they lecture everyone else about "real life"

>If the majority of violent crimes are being done by a certain amount of people taking away those people would lower that crime
Yes, temporarily. I acknowledged that. This doesn't mean that crime wouldn't rise among whites, or that the crime rate would suddenly be flat.

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Your argument was that ethnic diversity solves problems and never gave a real world example

>Who

Motherfucker, where do you think you are?

You can't actually prove that but based on actual crime stats that exist we can see that crime rates with whites is low comparably. So what you are saying has no actual proof.

overall violent crime has dropped, but it has increased among poor blacks since the 50s

You have to actually prove that whites will become more violent. You can't just say lol u dont know they wont. Across every country on the face of the earth, whites have had a crime rate of about 1-2 per 100k. Its on you to demonstrate that whites in the US will magically deviate from this norm if all the black people packed up and left.

It literally never was. Did you not read my two posts specifically mentioning that ethnic diversity isn't what diversity from a management perspective means? Learn how to follow a conversation
Give me another (you) with no argument

@113066975

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@113067022
Proof you are a failed baiter

Look at how stupid his argument is and ask yourself if anything you say will matter.
His argument is >Are you seriously trying to say if all the black people in the US disappeared tomorrow suddenly whitey would start murdering at a much higher rate?
But unironically. Do you really think this is someone capable of reason?

@113067077
gas yourself homo

So you are agreeing that ethnic diversity has few to no benefits outside concepts like food and music which anyone can bring to a country even if they aren't native to the culture?

They cherry pick random stats that support that statement and then avoid all stats that disprove it.

It's mostly just white guilt, or jews, or jews with white guilt. They grew up in a white society so it's easier for them to hate it, and easier to romanticize other societies. Even the colloured people who talk about white privilege are colleged educated, some of the most privileged of their own race that enjoy a "white" lifestyle.

It's a crazy combination of self guilt, ignorance of world history and fetishization of the outsider. Like how white women flock to yoga and eastern religious practices but shun Christianity because they grew up with it and its "boring."

White people have the privilege of sharing an appearance with other white people who generally behave in a civilized manner.

Black people, even if they are the model citizens, share a skin color with a race that commits an extremely disproportionate amount of violent crime. When a cop pulls over a black guy, in the back of their head they have the larger percentage experiences where there's been drugs or guns in the car. Where the suspect becomes obstinate and refuses to comply. These will obviously color the interaction with the suspect and make the cop more wary at the very least. The same is true of the gas station owner when young black men walk in.

I can imagine how that would feel shitty, but in the end it's up to black people to fix it.

>look at how hard it was get to protestants, catholics and orthodox get along
>now let's introduce non christian religions too

>posting rubbit screenshots
>200 replies
I'm going to fucking murder a janny

also Hulk gets the infinity glove

...

My friend posted a meme from a Facebook group called "Facebook atheists". The group had a description saying they exist to mock all Faith's. I looked at their last 30 posts all mock Christianity. Little things like this are why liberals are cowards

So white privilege is literally just people recognizing group averages and not expecting outliers.

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well they don't have a dad...and sometimes not a mom either

Can you say yes or no to my very simple question? You either agree with what I said or do not.

Who was in the wrong here?

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Denzel also has directed great movies.

Can u not read lmao
>I'm not arguing for diversity in a racial sense

T. one study that looked at a performance of 43 people in a business school where the more diverse group happened to solve problems better than the all White one.

Can you say yes or no to my question? This is an independent question not based on what you are saying.

Violence I cannot necessarily prove, and lacking both time and resources to conduct a population based study, the best I can provide is this.
Supply based crime depending on the black population would rise to fill the missing gap.
hamiltonproject.org/charts/rates_of_drug_use_and_sales_by_race_rates_of_drug_related_criminal_justice
The following charts are by percent of the population of each race as a whole. If you make the assumption that the total number of buyers is split equally by the total number of dealer, you are left with a racial disparity once all blacks are removed from the population. To account for the weakened supply, higher demand would lead to more non-black drug dealers, undoubtedly some of whom would be white. While violent crime is often associated with drug dealing, we won't go there as I have neither time nor desire to search for those statistics.

>Specifically say not arguing for diversity twice
>>So I'm right? My argument against racial diversity that you sided with 1 hr ago is right??
Peak tism

Depends on who you ask. Some will say things like:
>White privilege is being seen as the default
>White privilege is being able to ignore race
>White privilege is being able to find a band-aid of your skin color

which are in reality just natural consequences of whites being the majority of the country. But, seeing as there is no real solution to these "issues" aside from moving to a country where you're in the ethnic majority I personally don't recognize them as valid.

Here is why this will never get better. There is no endgame. Thee is no point where we all go "ok things are better let's move on". Blacks will always complain about whites and say they are marginalized and whites will be called racist and there is no end point for where we all agree things are better. We had a black American president and things literally got worse.

Why can't you answer the question?

Now compare the crime rate among under 30s. Our crime rates are dropping because our population's getting older not because adding in brown people has tempered everyone.

All the best music of the 20th century was heavily derived from African-American styles of Blues music.

Non-black artists were inspired by the contributions of those black artists and created something new, with their new knowledge.

That's diversity. Not adopting anothers culture to be your own, but learning from it, being inspired by it, and taking notes on what does and does not work.

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>Young people commit more crime than old people.
Brilliant insight. Pretty hard to rob someone when they can just push you over and you break your hip and die.

So we should import millions of third worlders because we might get more music?

baseball is the actual most 'diverse' sport. it's also the least politicized oddly enough.

Why is diversity good?
(((With multiple distractions no one will notice we are the problem)))

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>Local Faggot Willingly Keeps Himself Ignorant; Claims Others Lack Education
More on this story as it develops.

>they said while picking the black girls with the lightest features

if an opoinion gets lots of upvotes all reddit drones will instantly assume it is correct and will only post comments agreeing with it

Interesting theory, but this doesn't manifest in states without blacks. Maine doesn't have this problem. Vermont doesn't have this problem. North dakota doesn't have this problem. Supposedly whites would fill the drug dealer positions in these states due to the lack of blacks, but this doesn't seem to be the case in reality.

When did black people start pretending they built the modern world while whites were just sitting in caves? Are people deluded enough to actually believe that?

Incels have IQs that are too low to understand basic science, but africa is the most diverse continent on the planet.

You can have a movie with an all black cast, and it will still be more diverse than most movies with a mostly white cast with a few token black people.

Maine and Vermont both do have heavy drug use though (#18 and #23 respectively). The drug of choice is opioids though, which doesn't need a dealer.
North Dakota has almost non existent drug abuse, making it more of an outlier than anything.
drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/opioids/opioid-summaries-by-state
wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150/

I'm starting to get the shitty captchas, so this is it for me, but it has been fun debating you.

most haven't experience true diversity. when they realize it's bad it can't be removed in a PC way. when you live somehwere with more chinks and spics and blacks you see how it doesn't work. there is no community anymore, only the racial community is important. the country isn't important, only the fellow sharing same race. it's ironic that multiculturalism in the end will only create walls between races.

Except it's exactly the same as every other Marvel movie, niggers aside. Same plot, same story beat. It's not radically different in any what (other than niggers)

I accept your concession. I win

This fucking post right here. I've bounced around the various boards here and I've found that this one has a few intellectuals floating about that make points actually worth engaging with. It's certainly a refreshing change from Yea Forums.

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>most diverse
>least political
these things tend to go hand in hand.

black diaspora have won the culture war.

Black Panther is overrated garbo but there are many movies with literally not a single named black character and Black Panther has 2 white major characters. There are better things to complain about.

Not racist but I couldn't tell the difference between any of the supporting characters in Black Panther

There can be value in a diversity of ideas. The reasoning is that a diversity of ideas is brought about by having people of diverse backgrounds.
Race has nothing to do with it. In fact, it's a stereotype to assume a person of a certain race will have a certain background.

that pic is a retarded example. There are a shit ton of whites in the NBA. That's just the all stars or some shit

In their minds? To combat general xenophobia. You grow up in a country where you’re only surrounded by people like you, you’re going to have a reaction when you actually see someone different. Also, to give minority kids heroes who “look like them” or that they can relate to.

We all know a "divergent" couple makes the best marriage, am I right

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>All the best music of the 20th century was heavily derived from African-American styles of Blues music.

>2019
>still believing this shit

Please. I hate the liberals and their use of manipulative language, but don’t pretend it was just them. Frank Lutz was a linguist/psychologist eho worked for the republican party for over ten years and his job was to do the same thing and talked openly about how and why doing shit like that worked.

Oh, of course there is a solution. Subvert and undermine every white majority country and then start importing brown people while beating the whites down psychologically. Then when the whole place becomes a shithole, use your handy dandy dual citizenship to bail out to Israel.

Civic nationalists

I want you to think about what would happen if 3 million aboriginal austrailians moved into your city right now

Diverse in the grand scheme of hollywood

Obviously an all black cast isnt diverse but when 90% of hollywood movies star whites/jews, yes this is a diverse addition to hollywoods catalogue of movies

fpbp

idiot, stop collectivizing films under the "hollywood" category. The film didn't have diverse actors. They beat whites to death and had a few chinks.

You for making a twitter thread.

>diversity

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damn ur 1 stupid nigger son

>Nobody claims (or should claim) that the movie itself is diverse

>racist conservatives
And there it is.

>f you just watch white movies with only white people centered stories you end up uninformed and nearsighted, thinking only white perspective and voice matters.

Got any evidence that watching movies with all white people will have you end up with that thought process?

>there's more people here who think black people are subhumans than there are people who shared that video
yeah there's 88k neonazis here for sure you borderline trannyboi

>meanwhile 90k tweet going "white people deserve to be killed"

Imagine thinking you ought to extend your empathy and identification to groups who think only in self-interest racial chauvinist terms

>Let's root for the blacks who want to be the white masters

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>The reasoning is that a diversity of ideas is brought about by having people of diverse backgrounds.

Nobody genuinely believes this. And it certainly hasn't proven itself to be true in the last 50 years since America has been diversified. It's just led to more racial conflict and division where one group claims the other group doesn't understand them at all because they are not that skin color.

this makes a few implications that aren't necessarily true. looking different doesn't mean you have diverging opinions.
it's not correct to think "black people think like X" or "women think like Y"

>*insert group* strawman
Name a more generic composition made by pseudo-intellectual

There are some overlaps and common interests and POVs, but yeah it's hilarious thinking "all blacks think alike" (even more so all """""POCs""""" think alike just from being "non whites")

And there is some value in looking at certain things from different groups' pov - but it's not a value that's worth having to put up with that group's collective racial selfish interests and antagonistic hatred of you.

I'd be ok living without funny subversive jewish humor if it meant I didn't have to live constantly being demonized by the jewish media, endless immigration to maintain a anti-white """"poc"""" army and having blacks being inticed into violence 24-7

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they literally have a whole day dedicated to the first black player joining the league, funnily enough, it's probably one of the most racist sports league due to the culture clash between the races

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imagine the smell

no... studies have shown with high reliability that only teenagers actually care about music.

>it's another /pol/ containment thread

>/pol/ can be contained
>on /pol/'s website

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Man white people are retarded. its only you spouting these talking points like ''diversity'', blacks love it because its NOT diverse
t. black guy

a wh*Toids probably made that headline

>straight hair on over half of them
wannabe whites

You people aren't liberals though

gdp is a false metric anyway

>It's a r*dditor with over 0 iq episode

Diversity in big consultancy firms exclusively means hiring non-whites and women. That said, I've talked to enough senior partners to know that it's a foot in the door on the ground floor but won't get them anywhere higher based on it.

Also if you live in a western nation and work for anything national or bigger, you must be aware of programs within your business that do nothing but lobby and hire black people.

I want relevant cross functional teams on everything, but that has nothing to do with what the term diversity means in a business sense.

Are you retarded? This act just let the State Department distribute information domestically. "Propaganda" has been legal since, y'know, the first fucking amendment.

based

It's not. But they must convince you it is so they can import cheap labor without you complaining.

chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/robert-putnam-says-his-research-was-twisted/30357
Yeah nah fuck that guy.

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>Those glowing stomachs

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The modern "diversity" in the work environment assumes that all perspectives are valuable, which ignores the reality that some perspectives are better than others, and always will be. Adding worse perspectives to the conversation just dilutes the work environment and doesn't add any value. As a somewhat relevant example, giving black/minority applicants bonus points on Police Dept. or Fire Dept. applications in order to achieve a more diverse work force (and "diversity of perspectives" as they would say) adds absolutely nothing in reality. There is no secondary perspective when it comes to putting out a fire, there is no secondary perspective when it comes to law enforcement, there is legality and illegality, fire and no fire. Having a Muslim on the force for example doesn't improve anything, as the only thing it could address (better communication with Muslim citizens) is a problem caused directly by diversity in the population, which brings us back to the main point that diversity adds no value.

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>snowflake
Why do leftists love name calling so much?

>all black characters in black panther were played by black actors
>all white characters in thor were not played by white actors
What did (((they))) mean by this?

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It's almost as if it's a comparison to the demographics of the country you retards

lel more like bankruptcy

How do you contain the vast majority?
You don't make sense.

Top is Snyder cut.
Bottom is Whedon fun cut.

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dunno y ppl flamed but this is literally a textbook definition