Beyond the Aquila Rift

I don't get it. Why did Thom scream like a little bitch? Sure, the alien looks horrifying at first, but he knew it had benevolent intentions.

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shock I guess. I'm sure many people would do the same if they suddenly woke up starving in what looks like an alien nest, sees his dead friends and then that.

Would you, Yea Forums?

yes, not much different from your mom.

You just told that user that his mother is a wonderful and caring person.

>OP probably has a school girl in his parents basement

You dorks are so obsessed with this one, but it was bottom 3 at best. Half the episode was a poorly animated sex scene. Most of the episode was filler for a weak payoff

Does she feed the survivors or just give them pleasant dreams until they inevitably die

That sums up the complete series.

>Heavy Metal reboot is mostly sex scenes
no shit

>I don't get it.
You shouldn't watch stuff like that, then.

kek

The latter

she doesn't feed them but she probably implants her seeds in them

I honestly have to commend them for creating such a truly disgusting design. I very rarely find horror monsters to be grotesque these days, but I found Greta legitimately difficult to look at.

I gave up on the series after the first one was a fat feminist dyke manifesto

i meant it

Do you understand what spiders do?

They wrap prey that gets stuck in their web, then feed off them.

Why is Yea Forums so retarded about this episode, thinking that the guy is going to be ok? They showed his crew the spider already started eating, she is going to do the same to the guy.

well i rather die in my sleep while having a wonderful dream fucking some hot bitch , than getting ate alive and awke in agony

explain?

>Men are bad!
>Men like you raped me and now I'm a monster!
>Yeah I'm a monster lmao deal with it men

This is also the story of Episode 8. But it's even funnier because the people who killed the monsters family were chinks but she goes out and kills englishmen because lol steam punk amirite?

In the short story this is adapted from, Thom and his ship are the first human ship the alien came across, so they probably don't have any clue as to how to feed Thom.

>Do you understand what spiders do?
Do you understand that the alien is not a spider? Also, the dude who wrote the adaptation for the show confirmed that the alien was benevolent, albeit horrible in appearance.

What do you find grotesque about her?

To be fair, the British history with China is fucked up. Remember that time when the Chinese didn't want opium sold in their country, because of how harmful its effects were? And then the British fought two wars, the first one got them Hong Kong and the second made opium trade legal?

But yeah, it was fucking retarded how she had nothing personal against the dude's father who killed her mother and even befriended him.

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>benevolent
that's a big word

>benevolent
I don't see how being kept trapped in an illusion, raped by a gross alien without realizing and having your memory wiped when you find the truth is benevolent in ANY way...

for you

>You're not ready
This clearly implies she would eventually reveal the truth to him though, he just needed to be eased in. I think the format of this show really harmed the story here, they couldn't possibly show everything in 16 minutes. While the short story was short, it at least had some decent tempo to it.

And she didn't rape him at all. She didn't have anything to do with him physically at all, it was all in his head. And if she was actually bent on keeping him merely trapped, she would have never allowed him to come to an understanding that the thing was an illusion in the first place.

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>What do you find grotesque about her?
Well for one thing, she's very photo-realistic, to the degree that she looks more like a practical effect in a John Carpenter movie than something from an entirely CG short. Design-wise it's probably a combination of how slimy/fleshy she is, and her dozens of eyes of varying sizes. The eyes themselves are also dotted on these two very bulbous lumps which help make up her "head." Lumps are generally unsettling on any design. Her skin has this shrink-wrapped quality to it, and there are random holes and openings in the flesh that you can only imagine the purpose of. Her mouth is also very unsettling as well, resembling a lamprey's mouth without the teeth (which actually makes it more disconcerting, as you can imagine she suckles instead of biting).

On top of all this, her overall spider-like shape gives her this insectoid quality; and bug designs are usually fitting for monsters because they typically make you think of something unclean and highly foreign, something that lives out its existence in the animal kingdom in a way completely separate from mammals, reptiles or even fish.

I'm curious how large she's meant to be, incidentally. We never truly get a proper scale for her.

I didn't really expect to get an indepth response to my question, you surprised me in a pleasant way, user. I asked because she never looked horrific to me or at least didn't evoke disgust. About the only thing that I found odd was that goo/fluid flowing from the sides of the lump above the head/eyes.

The alien's scale was never mentioned in the short story, but I'll paste a passage that describes the area and the alien:

>We were still holding hands, two lovers sharing an intimacy. Then everything changed. It was just a flash, just a glimpse. Like the view of an unfamiliar room if you turn the lights on for an instant. Shapes and forms, relationships between things. I saw caverns, wormed-out and linked, and things moving through those caverns, bustling along with the frantic industry of moles or termites. The things were seldom alike, even in the most superficial sense. Some moved via propulsive waves of multiple clawed limbs. Some wriggled, smooth plaques of carapace grinding against the glassy rock of the tunnels.The things moved between caves in which lay the hulks of ships, almost all too strange to describe.And somewhere distant, somewhere near the heart of the rock, in a matriarchal chamber all of its own, something drummed out messages to its companions and helpers, stiffly articulated, antler-like forelimbs beating against stretched tympana of finely veined skin, something that had been waiting here for eternities, something that wanted nothing more than to care for the souls of the lost.

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Fucking hell.

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>tfw no Greta gf

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Did the short ever state his friends were dead? They revived the woman for a bit. If that was fake she wouldn't have tried to warn Thom.

I know she dies from the paint in her tank in the original story.

whoa, how often did that sort of thing happen? I completely missed them

She was fake and only there to slowly drip-feed the truth to him.

Well, there is that shadow on the wall that you can see in >Did the short ever state his friends were dead?
Yes.

>I said to her, over wine, under the Milky Way: “Nothing here is real, is it?”
>She looked at me with infinite sadness and shook her head.
>“What about Suzy?” I asked her.
>“Suzy’s dead. Ray is dead. They died in their surge tanks.”
>“How? Why them, and not me?”
>“Something about particles of paint blocking intake filters. Not enough to make a difference over short distances, but enough to kill them on the trip out here.”
>I think some part of me had always suspected. It felt less like shock than brutal disappointment.
>“But Suzy seemed so real,” I said. “Even the way she had doubts about how long she’d been in the tank…even the way she remembered previous attempts to wake her.”
>The glass mannequin approached our table. Greta waved him away.
>“I made her convincing, the way she would have acted.”
>“You made her?”
>“You’re not really awake, Thom. You’re being fed data. This entire station is being simulated.”
>I sipped my wine. I expected it to taste suddenly thin and synthetic, but it still tasted like pretty good wine.
>“Then I’m dead as well?”
>“No. You’re alive. Still in your surge tank. But I haven’t brought you to full consciousness yet.”
>“All right. The truth this time. I can take it. How much is real? Does the station exist? Are we really as far out as you said?”
>“Yes,” she said. “The station exists, just as I said it does. It just looks… different. And it is in the Large Magellanic Cloud, and it is orbiting a brown dwarf star.”
>“Can you show me the station as it is?”
>“I could. But I don’t think you’re ready for it. I think you’d find it difficult to adjust.”
>I couldn’t help laughing. “Even after what I’ve already adjusted to?”
>“You’ve only made half the journey, Thom.”
>“But you made it.”
>“I did, Thom. But for me it was different.” Greta smiled. “For me, everything was different.”

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what the fuck are you talking about? He wakes up and sees where he is, then she mind-wipes him, probably that same thing has been happening for who know how long judging by his state.
why the fuck are you trying to defend anything happening there was a good thing?

I know she dies in the original story but the episode seemed to leave it ambiguous. There was no fluid in her tank but Thom's seemed to be dry as well.

She lets him wake up, he doesn't do it on his own. He could have been mind wiped whilst in the illusion, but he wanted to see the real world and she allowed him to do so, despite her very well founded fear of him not being able to take it.

Even IRL, when people act like that, waking up from something, seeing something they couldn't imagine before (maybe losing a limb or seeing a dead person) they go into a state of shock and have to be sedated. This was the alien's way of handling the situation. Eventually, she does want to reveal him the truth of things, but only when he could actually take it. And if he can't take it, if he really will go mad, why is it a good thing to let him go out that way?

>Men are bad!
>Men like you raped me and now I'm a monster!
>Yeah I'm a monster lmao deal with it men
Congrats, you got played like the antagonist.

thats not even how its really looks, its the limit of his mind and obviously he is going to freak. + he was already freaking, instead of taking a minute to think about things and prep himself he was all like "I want the truth and I WANT IT NOW"

>bottom 3
others were so shit that its easily above the middle

feed them what, stardust? she just gives them dreams, matrix style she can make them last for a long time.

its not a spider you dummy. guy is not going to be ok, she outright tells him that he is going to die like all the others who unfortunately end up there but she can make there stay and passing comfy. She has no need of them she is just tired of all the death and suffering.

so keeping him in a loop, and memory wiping him, preventing any sort of resolution, because he'd freak out everytime, how the fuck is that benevolent. Just fucking let him die, or kill him ffs. Otherwise is just evil.

yeah the direction there was wrong. Dad should have been the main target instead of dying off screen while the boy struggled with his feelings. you could also look it from another way, what I said would be predictable while we ended up with 3rd force coming in, making all their old bullshit seem stupid and taking them all for a ride. I would say the focuse need to be less "I got fucked in my pussy" and more "look at all this changes and corruption of our ways of life" meaning the way of the warrior and a fox spirit. something like a story about samurai disarmament

and that is a good option for him. its not the short from animatrix where the woman is trapped by the robot she was trying to hack.

based and cute

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he doesn't have any options, are you dense? he's being kept alive by an alien entity that wipes his memory when he learns and wakes up, then put back to sleep and doesn't remember anything, rinse-repeat.
ARE.YOU.DENSE?

this

I wonder how this short would have been perceived if the genders were swapped.

Some hot human woman like greta stranding in such a thing and the chad in her simulation is actually a giant monster.

Media would call this short a allegory for rape or something. Which kinda shows that what greta is doing is wrong since changing the genders change the entire story.

>preventing any sort of resolution
We don't know that though. The episode is way too fucking short to know what might happen in the future. She does want to do right by him, but she also wants to care for him, just like she cared for everyone else who ended up stranded there.

He does not have any other options, meaning this is the best option for him. His only suffering is by his own hand

I give up, you are literally retarded.

Double standards exist and are okay because men and women are different.

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Im sure there are some articles bashing death and robots too

>Half the episode was a poorly animated sex scene
as if that was a bad thing. Also I wish there was more animated porn done like that

>just give them pleasant dreams until they inevitably die
I know now go I wanna go out, lads

whoa i never noticed this before bros
what story?

Beyond the Aquila Rift by Alastair reynolds.

You didn't really think this was an original story did you?

How does the book end?

people write original stories all the time user. its nothing special. i will check out the story. thanks!

Nah I meant more like you didn't expect Netflix to write something of this quality.

>people write original stories all the time user.
not for tv. If anything original gets there it means it had a built in audience

of courses i didnt expect netflix to come up with good stuff but while watching i noticed that it was tim miller who wrote and directed the show. he has proven himself to be capable so i didnt think it was an adaptation

>tim miller who wrote
flavor of each story made it clear it was an anthology of various authors, not book authors but defiantly a bunch of diverse visions even if some of them felts sami

Thom doesn't handle his new reality well and Gretta substitutes it with yet another simulation, a calm and happy ending, in which he wakes to Suzy waking him up from the surge tank, with his wife Katerina by her side. But when Katerina speaks he feels odd and thinks of someone from his past, clearly implying it's just another manifestation of the alien caretaker in the simulation.

and that's a good thing

yeah makes sense