I'm actually sad it's over. Not because I like those movies, I know Star Wars is dead, I know Disney destroyed it...

>I'll just treat these films like the prequels and act like they never happened.
Shit taste.

Pleb-tier taste.

Liking any Star Wars film after 1997 is a sign of the worst possible taste. Just because Jar Jar made you laugh when you were 6 doesnt mean the movies weren't terrible.

the drama is so much more entertaining than the films

Just because your a joyless cuck doesnt make you better than others

Дapт Пepeфypгoн

>imagine being this emotional about children flicks
pathetic, grow up

2 great things happened because of Disney's masterstroke god tier fuck up

1. They demonstrated that Star Wars without George Lucas is shit
2. People went back and gave the prequels another shot, realising that they were retarded for ever saying they were shit in the first place

Thanks Disney

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Into my heart on air that kills
From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills,
What spires, what farms are those?

That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.

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The phenomena of a great cultural thing being continuously exploited until it turns into a steaming pile of shit is a disturbing one. I'm a writer, and the thought of creating a great story only to watch it grow into some bloated corporate nightmare is awful.

It seems like it's inevitable.

Its only going to be short break and then they make remakes of the OT.

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>final movie in a trilogy
>use subtitle that infers it is the first or second movie of a trilogy

Reminder
A New Hope - pleb magnet
Empire - pleb magnet
ROTJ - pleb magnet
TPM - pleb magnet
AOTC - pleb tilter
ROTS - pleb filter
TFA - pleb magnet
RO - pleb magnet
TLJ - pleb filter
Solo - pleb magnet

I had this issue of Star Wars Galaxy magazine. I bought it from a bookstore, lol.

JJ has no subtley, they are going to actually resurrect Luke with some uber light side force relic

If a terrible movie makes you return to another terrible movie and think it's now great, you're a retard that needs to learn to think for yourself. The prequels fucking suck and are what started SW down this path of shit.

totally ebin

I think the people who hate this shit are the people who were kids when the prequels happened, and the boomers who were kids when the original trilogy happened. The people who were adults when Star Wars first came out are nowhere to be seen. Go wonder about that.

30 years fast forward there will be kids hating the Star Wars movies of 2050 because they were kids when Force Awakens came out.

Unless we move past hate by then.

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The prequels are great and were always great

Fuck off

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Yeah, people will bitch for 2-3. After that, the Star Wars Fuckup will never be the centre of attention again.
But it won't be tied to OT as much as this current trilogy, no one will care. Origin stories and continuations with Rey children or whatever the fuck, will never gain as much attention as episodes 7, 8 and 9.
Fuck, I'm still angry they fucked it up so hard they didn't even bring original trio together. And now, even if someone wanted to make a remake, Carrie Fisher is fucking dead and in coke heaven.

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Dark greetings.

not uhim

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Found the democrat.

No, we don't like the new stuff because it's crap and boring.

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>crap and boring
It always was. Starwars had sporadic moments of actual quality.

Yeah I like to call those "the first three films."

Micheal B. Jordon as Luke Skywalker.

No, they are moments within the first 3 films, and the 2 new ones. The prequels don't have any, it's all lucas toy factory bait and powerlevel fights for dragonball fans.

The first 3 films are also full of cringe and stupidly written shit.

>it always was
Except no. It wasn't and if you don't get it then your opinion is worthless here.
Star wars fans are by definition fans. Why are the fans suddenly hating the new shit? What changed? What are they doing differently? That's something that only fans can answer.

>Pretending that the phantom menace wasn't good.

You're dumb as fuck and you're obviously a socialist retard.

There's virtually nothing good about the new movies and tonnes of good shit in the prequels.
> it's all lucas toy factory bait
The new movies aren't selling toy swell. Virtually every kid wanted a fucking darth maul or double bladed lightsaber and the computer games were flying off the shelves. The reason for this was because the fucking movies contained a lot of stuff that people liked. What you call "toy bait" other people call cool things.

Profit isn't a crime. FAGGOT.

>you don't get it then your opinion is worthless here.
You are actually fucking miserable with this we are legion shit and if you had an actual opinion and something to support it with you wouldn't need it. I'm not amused by your friends agree win with you at all. Especially if they are the same age as you.

Why this woman has black feet?

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didn't RLM kill star wars by his star wars video going viral and saying piratical effects and hiring JJ would save star wars

But the first 3 were terrible compared to the 4th to 6th films, which were actually good.

You can be in the legion and have a correct opinion. The legions opinions are the correct opinions.

SJW faggotry is the reason people don't like nu-warz
Non-star wars fans don't matter.

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>The first 3 films are also full of cringe and stupidly written shit.
Yeah there was some stupid shit, but full of cringe? It was incredibly sincere, passionate vision of a young director. Can't see cringe in that.

>But I will miss the sense of unity we had every time we shit on it.
Don't worry, they will be shit on for the next 50 years.

First 3 were good because it wasn't trying to be too hard and complicated and just wanted to tell a story of both the Light and Dark.

The OT are kinda shit just because its so vanilla and it tries to be too deep but its actually just a puddle. The PT is like a vast ocean ready for you to explore with the PT characters.

>I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!
I lined up at the theater when I was 14 to see TPM, and I was hyped out of my mind. My hype also carried me through the show and for several days after, but then when I came down I started realizing that a lot of TPM was kind of stupid even though it seemed to tick every Star Wars box. Then more time went by and I realized, painfully, that it was actually a pretty bad movie. It tried to cram in the emotions spread out in the 3 OT films into one experience, like some Star Wars theme park ride, but it lacked a lot of soul, had large plot holes and midichlorians, and young Anakin was absolutely stupid. The movie sucked, sorry.

If you look at the prequels, they're a perfect example of what Disney was trying to do—tick every single Star Wars box to make it "feel" like Star Wars while inserting their own characters and woke agenda. Lucas did this, but his problem was having far too much control, too much CGI, and being too focused on toys/money while unable to write a decent story. It was classic businessman hubris from Lucas, while Disney can't even get that right or else we'd at least have films that resembled Star Wars without being sad rip offs that aren't even as good as fan films.

>Unless we move past hate by then.
It is impossible to move past a chemical reaction in the hippocampus that has been hardwired into us for the past 200,000 years.

>tonnes
I'm sorry your cathedral burned down, Mohammad.

The first films means the first ones to come out, not labled as "number 1" in their dumbass naming and prequels. The OT are the first films.

Lol you can't be a real person. This has to be bait.

>The prequels fucking suck and are what started SW down this path of shit.
That would be the Special Edition OT. Star Wars died in 1983.

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This.

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I cannot debate this. I did love being able to see the OT in theaters, though, and some stuff was good, but you could see the shit that was coming down the pipe from Lucas with many of those decisions. Epic decisions such as:
>Greedo shot first.
Thanks, George. That was really eating up the fans all these years and we're so glad you fixed it to show us your real vision of Han being a lucky moron.

PT goes beyond the good and evil shit of the OT and shows the Jedi are not as good as they claim. PT is way more deep and complex than the OT even in stuff like the vehicles and robots.

>SJW faggotry is the reason people don't like nu-warz
No, first and foremost, Disney writers can't write for shit. It's a cynical corporation, they don't even care about promoting "sjw values" in their movies, they just use women, black and asian people and gays as a shield (they know their movies suck but if anyone criticizes them, they can pull the racist/sexist/homophobe card). The lack of any creative vision in Hollywood is a fact, everything now is either a remake or capeshit or a movie that tries to copy the capeshit formula, and sjws didn't cause that, they're just used as a tool.
Mad Max Furry Road has some feminist themes and it's not shit. The themes are not the problem; the lack of writing skills and using minorities to shield yourself is.

>PT goes beyond the good and evil shit of the OT and shows the Jedi are not as good as they claim

Vader already did that by simply existing.

I feel the same way as you do about this, but the Fandom Menace will live on.

You are correct.

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>No, first and foremost, Disney writers can't write for shit.
Because they are all a bunch of sjwlgbtpoc's
>. It's a cynical corporation,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
You're an anti-capitalist.

No, it's not because they are an "evil corporation". Lucas was an amazing business man who made mega bank with star wars and sold the license to disney for billions yet he still made good movies. Quality and profit are not mutually exclusive concepts, in fact, the reason markets often work so well is that they allow people to reward quality.
>Mad Max Furry Road has some feminist themes

It was, if anything, an anti-feminist movie in that it exposed the fact hat a lot of women, especially feminists, don't view men as people.
I was expecting feminist nonsense when I watched it and then saw the way the war boys were expendable drones and how a woman had betrayed the man that promoted her by stealing his princesses. Men are getting slaughtered left right and centre throughout the movie. Feminists don't care, because they don't think mens lives matter.

It was pure poetry really.

This.

They are using the hatred of the right to victimize themselves and draw attention away from the horrible writing. Their comprehension of "liberal values" tops out at putting in a character with purple hair.

PT tries to be deep but fails, it's forced and full of illogical plot points. OT tells a simple story through archetypes of hero's journey, it's like a myth, and because of that it will always be stronger and more memorable than PT. It also played a bigger role in developing special effect techniques etc.

>Their comprehension of "liberal values" tops out at putting in a character with purple hair.
So does the right's. That's the only reason why they don't see it for what it is.

>It was, if anything, an anti-feminist movie in that it exposed the fact hat a lot of women, especially feminists, don't view men as people.
I was expecting feminist nonsense when I watched it and then saw the way the war boys were expendable drones and how a woman had betrayed the man that promoted her by stealing his princesses. Men are getting slaughtered left right and centre throughout the movie. Feminists don't care, because they don't think mens lives matter.

Jesus christ, you're an actual retard. Have sex.

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It's like the Youtube Rewind.
You'll think the one released this year is shit until you watch the video released next year.

Disney has made good movies in the past. Hell even some that are clearly intended to be feminist-friendly are at least better than Nu-Wars, like Moana.

Yeah it starts on that premise, then fails to explore or develop any of it, and even fails to explore the most obvious and easy story arc which is Anakin's love for Padme and what that means to a Jedi. Why can the Jedi not love? Isn't that at odds with the Jedi being peaceful? There was so much there to explore, but they completely fucked it up and Anakin was a shallow emo moron.

Same with the Jedi council stuff which ultimately boils down to them sitting around going "I feel something, but I don't know." There's no deeper exploration of the Jedi's overconfidence or blindness or how Palpatine actually pulled off what he did. It's shallow idiocy and an embarrassment compared to the depth of the OT.

I'm right though.
The war boys were getting blown away constantly in the movie in the way men have throughout history. This didn't generate any controversy among feminists because they believe women are the only real humans.

>Have sex.
Get a husband and have children or die lonely and unloved.

They are a bunch of suits and you are nothing but a cow for them to milk. The theories as to why this is difficult to understand for you are numerous.

RLM basically did kill star wars.
They popularised the idea that the prequels were bad. Suggested JJ direct star wars and said that the shit awakens wasn't shit.

LOL.

>They popularised the idea that the prequels were bad.
They did not. They rose on its popularity. That video was the best made one, not the only one.

Uh except there's a main character that's a war boy that ends up being a hero and basically the love interest of one of the princesses. Also the war boys were all terminally ill from radiation, so didn't live long anyway hence the name "half-life war boys." You make an interesting point but I don't think it's a very robust one.

wtf I love RLM now

Don't be sad. We've still got 8 months of shitposting left!

>redit
Morrr-Onnnnn!

In 2011 Yea Forums fucking hated the prequels with a passion. What happened? Is it just contrarianism in reaction to the new movies or is it nostalgia from people who were 6 when they saw Revenge of the Sith? 15 years from now will everybody love the sequel trilogy in response even newer movies?

Hurrr. At the time, JJ didn't seem like a bad call. They underestimated the influence and power of WOKE DISNEY. If JJ had pulled his woke SJW crap on the new Star Trek's, they would've been just as big of a fucking disaster. They stuck to the original characters and relied on great performances and chemistry from the new actors, and that carried them through the stupid action movie plot and lens flares.

All they had to do was a similar thing for Star Wars, which was always more action-heavy than Star Trek anyway, but they fucked it up by shitting all over the original characters and being woke. Don't listen to the lefty apologists in here crying about capitalism = the purple-haired feminists ruined Star Wars, full stop.

There is no place in cinema for feminism.
>haha, you cannot want to make profit and have a political agenda at the same time
Liberals are dumb.
Profit =/= no morals and values.

If they truly cared about profit they would've sacrificed their extremely stupid, unpopular and extremist left wing opinions that have been proven to be unpopular and unwanted around the world.
Their writing teams were literally taking pictures of themselves drinking out of mugs that said "fan boy tears" on them. You literally had writers saying that the empire represents White people.
This isn't simply "good business" this was ideology.

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You're not though.
Men were blown away because of other men. And the women in the movie were treated like things and cows to breed, just like men treated women throughout history. Keep victimizing yourself incel.

Maybe the real star wars was the jedi we met along the way

They all think that people only hated the prequels because of RLM, not because they were actually bad films. It's a mass case of brainwashing!

I'm genuinely impressed. I thought they would never manage to do anything worse than TLJ. But I can without a doubt say that ep9's trailer is the worst star wars trailer ever released

You should be embarrassed for ever caring that much about Star Wars. Even children know how to have a detached interest in media, so I can't tell you to grow the fuck up.

This. Disney was mega-rich for DECADES and kept producing quality films, some of the best they will ever make, in the midst of this success. You weren't screeching about evil cynical capitalism then were you?
But look, the second they get woke and start sticking lefty/SJW political trash in their movies, the boat starts to sink.

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Fucking BINGO. Argument over, lefties, you lose.

"Can I point out that this is, we are now back to real Star Wars." - Mike Stoklasa, TFA Half in the Bag

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Contrarianism. Although I still respect PT more than Disney sequels simply because it's Lucas vision. Stupid, but still.

Go to /pol/ incel. You're miximg truth with lies and there's nothing worse than that.

>RLM basically did kill star wars.
Nice headcanon, zoom zoom.

>the OT never had another scene together
>and now they never will
Thanks Disney

If Pocahontas came out today, magapedes would be REE'ing from the rooftops about all the forced SJW talking points.

>plinkett was wrong about jj abrams.so therefore every single thing he said about how shit the prequels were was wrong

Trek 09 seems like a good movie on the surface but the story has problems.

I mean, your logic is wrong. But your conclusion is right anyway

>Wrong about one thing
>Even though that post has an example of two things

>Men were blown away because of other men.
Er what?
Did you even fucking watch the movie? Furiosa and these women are killing the war boys every step of the way. War boys are constantly getting killed and
>because of other men
That somehow means that men have it good?
See, this is a classic example of why feminists are inferior people. You bitch and moan about the male treatment of women, but the far worse male treatment of other men doesn't bother you because "it's men". The bad treatment of men by women doesn't bother you at all because you refuse to acknowledge it.

>And the women in the movie were treated like things and cows to breed
No they weren't. Furiosa was the kings second in command. She wasn't a breeding cow, she was his trusted Imperator.
Being a breeding princess because of your genetic quality, while not exactly polite, is arguably preferable to being an expendable combat drone. These women were treated like nobility.
The idea that feminists think this is much worse than being cannon fodder is evidence that feminists have low intelligence and psychopathic personalities.
> just like men treated women throughout history.
That is literally not true. Queen Cartimandua, Victoria, Bunhilda and Elizabeth I were hardly "breeding cattle".
This notion that women throughout history have just been "breeding cattle" is an absolute myth.

Feminists do not read history books. Feminists just sit around watching netflix.

I'm pretty sure Mike has some regrets now.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ7A_o2Toog&t=99s

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No, they wouldn't. Good luck tackling your mental illness. Watch Ben Shapiro—the truth is out there.

ok this thread has convinced me that the recent pro-prequel resurgence is just trolling

If it happens to you, you would be rich. Artistic value is dead, it's all about exploiting the system to enrich yourself. This is the society lefties wanted.

>over
it'll be at most a 2 year hiatus, probably just 1. The mouse needs cash

>Go to /pol/ incel. You're miximg truth with lies and there's nothing worse than that.
What fucking lies have I told?
It's not "evil capitalism" at work here. It's fucking fucking SJW idiocy. George Lucas who was a liberal himself as well as a big time business man didn't produce horse fucking shit because he knew not to put in extremely dumb leftist hate propaganda. Nu-wars is an all out declaration of war against the West, White people and men.

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Yes. The plot is very simplistic and the villain pretty stupid. By comparison, it would be a bad ST episode in any series, but it's purpose of introducing the characters and establishing the new ST universe was a huge success, mostly because of the actors imo.

I mean the new Star Trek actors have a hell of a lot more charisma than Daisy and Boyega.

>No, they wouldn't.
youtube.com/watch?v=O9MvdMqKvpU

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Are trolling? Its the shadow cast from her dress.

I guess that's what happens, which is hilarious because the lefties hate the 'get rich, get out' idea that's rampant in corporate culture, yet they support the same shit.

>not knowing how light works
Libtard detected

RLM are funny guys but they basically killed star wars with their criticism and suggestions.
People watch plinkett reiews to laugh at them, not because they are necessarily good reviews.

I suppose at least JJ made it LOOK quite like the original star wars. I guess?
It still managed to have worse CGI than the prequels and inserted a worse character than jar jar binx into it (finn).

Maybe in the past, now they are constantly shilling for big corporations (Disney) and big governments (Anti brexit).

Crying /pol/ is the new 'racism' lol.
If you're losing the argument and being destroyed by facts, just cry
>/POL/!!!

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>Crying tranny is the new 'racism' lol.
>If you're losing the argument and being destroyed by facts, just cry
>>DISCORD TRANNY!

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What is 'SJW' about this? This is what you mentally-ill leftists can't understand because you believe in a gigantic fucking lie: there was no systemic horrible racism and oppression that you had to fight against. It had already been defeated and people had moved on, but democrat politicians rebooted it because they realized that was their main source of power, and you bought it because you're emotional and stupid.

Diversity used to be a good thing. Environmentalism used to be a good thing. Standing against racism was a thing everybody used to do every day, and look how you've fucked it all up now.

Why won't RLM apologize to lucas?

>At the time, JJ didn't seem like a bad call.
Bullshit. JJ has never made a movie better than a 7/10. The man has no creative bone in his body.

>When they attack me, I will attack them with the same attack! That will mean I will win!

Imagine a Jedi putting on make up like rey and having to wear a bra in the future. Imagine.....

Apologize, soicels!

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"You think you own whatever land you land on"
>clear criticism of capitalism and decrying the colonising white man
"If the savage one is me how can there be so much that you don't know"
>the tired trope of the wise uncivilised morons versus the "brutish" colonisers
"But I know every rock and tree and creature"
>oh yeah, the uncultured idiots living in tents are way smarter than science because mystic magic
"Or asked the grinning bobcat why he grinned? can you sing with all the voices of the mountains?"
>Nonsense mumbo jumbo that doesn't mean anything to indoctrinate useful idiots

Yeah but discord trannies are pro-actively trying to attack /pol/ because trannies have a strong emotional investment in trying to prevent /pol/ from exerting its influence.
Their entire world depends upon the idea that make-believe is real. /pol/ is a battering ram at the door of lies. When that door goes down trannies will be identified as the mentally ill people that they always have been and treated. The sick leftists and "doctors" that mutilated and manipulated these poor people will be sent to jail.

Imagine being such a sick fucking cunt that you would actually tell a mentally ill man that he can become a woman if he cuts his dick off and destroys himself with hormone injections.

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>if my attack clearly hurts me as much as it hurts them, it's fine cause I said it first!

>he thinks there will be civilization in 2050

>Their entire world depends upon the idea that make-believe is real. /pol/ is a battering ram at the door of lies
The irony in this post is amazing. This is the same /pol/ that claims something is HAPPENING every week only for nothing to keep happening. The same /pol/ that whines about jewish influence and domination while simultaneously supporting Trump and the GOP. The same /pol/ that ignores stats it doesn't like and re-purposes them into something more palpable

What's wrong with tea?

Civilisation will continue to exist without America numbnuts

It was fine

>I know Star Wars is dead, I know Disney destroyed it.

Speak for yourself. Most people aren't turbo autists who dislike movies just because they are the new Star Wars movies.

Fuck off tranny kike.

Women are not resposible for what men did to other men. Men never bitched about it until women started to fight for their rights and tried, as a class, to be less dependent on men, as a class. Then suddenly men started to bitch about their lives, just because they stopped being the centre of women's universes. Men vs men is not women's problem; men vs women obviously is. And women never did to men something as terrible as men did to women throughout history of mankind.
>rape is being treated like nobility
There was no possible way for those women to say "no". They were dependent on men. In real life, women would be ostracized or killed if they left their husbands. Are you so retarded to give examples of nobility and forget about the wast majority of women who were literally men's property? Women still have higher rates of PTSD than men because of the sexual trauma caused by men. For many women, rape is worse than death. You simply don't see women as humans.
Manoids don't read history books, only reddit.

Star Wars with George Lucas is shit too.
They're all shit user.

Based retarded zoomer

Your kind LITERALLY believes that dolphins can become people if they have the right "economic conditions". You don't believe in reality. You think that women are a "social construct" you fucking dumbfuck.
>The same /pol/ that whines about jewish influence and domination while simultaneously supporting Trump and the GOP.
Trump is better than hillpig, berntard and obuttma
>The same /pol/ that ignores stats it doesn't like and re-purposes them into something more palpable
Stats like what? Men doing dangerous jobs?

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>strawman
Quit yelling at the voices in your head.
>Trump is better than hillpig, berntard and obuttma
Yet sucks Israeli cock more than anyone, which is what the greentext in your post is all about.

this

Can you retarded poltards, both right and left leaning, leave my thread? I don't want you here.

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>Your kind
You mean like how your kind LITERALLY believes that the world is flat and that climate change is a lie invented by the jews to... screw over companies?

>Stats like what?
Climate change
IQ correlation with political views
Paedophile correlation with us states (and political parties)
The usual stuff...

>Women are not resposible for what men did to other men.
You're mentally inferior.
Men are not a collective and men doing nasty things to other men that are far worse than what they generally did to women is not less true because it was "men" that were doing it.
And throughout history, lots of fighting has been caused by women. The middle east recently got destroyed by female politicians.
>Men never bitched about it until women started to fight for their rights
The very fact hat you have rights is primarily because of men. If it wasn't for men women would've likely been consumed by the wilderness. This is especially true of WHITE men who treat women the best and have a long history of doing this.
>to be less dependent on men, as a class.
Women are more dependant than ever LOL. Independence is the dumbest thing you can hope to achieve in a civilisation. Everyone depends on someone. Trying to go it alone just gets you into debt (women have worse money problems than men because of this).
> Then suddenly men started to bitch about their lives, just because they stopped being the centre of women's universes.
WTF are you talking about? It's if anything men who revolve around protecting and caring for women. Women have a PROVEN lack of empathy for men and a PROVEN female bias.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect
>And women never did to men something as terrible as men did to women throughout history of mankind.
How the fuck would you know? You're not a historian.
Women are currently aborting children like never before, they hit and lie about men regularly and they are currently destorying the West with pro immigration and globalist policies. They destroyed the middle east by arming terrorists.
Feminists also have put anti-male policies into action and are corrupting economies to priorities women.
>There was no possible way for those women to say "no".
Rape has been a crime throughout history. WTF are you talking about?

That was the actual perspective of the character, and it was contrasted with the perspective of the white male. Go watch Fern Gully kid, lol.

What stats does pol ignore and repurpose, exactly? I will wait for you to give even a single example.

This is why I will never take those faggots with shite taste and shit opinions seriously. All I need to know about them is summarized in this event. It goes to show they clearly don't know what the fuck they're talking about. JJ is fucking garbage and so were the practical meme effects.

Your Star Wars safe space invited in politics, Yang fag. It's not our fault. Why don't you tell them to stick to making space fantasy adventures with romance, magic, and fundamental conflicts of good against evil?

>CLIMATE CHANGE

The lefty is going to now destroy your thread because it was proven wrong and knows that leftist SJW wokeness killed Star Wars. Sorry, OP.

> They were dependent on men. In real life, women would be ostracized or killed if they left their husbands.
WTF are you talking about?
Women among the Romans, Spartans, Celts, etc could get divorced. There have been powerful female nobles throughout history.

Feminists don't know any of this because they are a bunch of uneducated, unintelligent couch potatos that base their opinions on game of thrones.
>Are you so retarded to give examples of nobility and forget about the wast majority of women who were literally men's property?
Prove that the majority of women throughout history were "property" you fucking dunce.
>Women still have higher rates of PTSD than men because of the sexual trauma caused by men.
Men get raped too you fucking retard. Men also get falsely accused of rape. Men are also more likely to commit suicide, get attacked and experience poverty and thanks to feminism, it's harder to get a job and survive because of women. Women also retain the right to sexually harass and assault men.
>For many women, rape is worse than death.
Go watch some cartel videos of people literally getting skinned alive and decapitated and then come back to me to tell me that your ex boyfriend having sex with you when he was drunk is "worse" than death you fucking snowflake.
>You simply don't see women as humans.
Women LITERALLY BELIEVE that their lives are more important than mens.
The war boys were getting WIPED OUT in mad max. Feminists think the rich princesses were the "victims" in this movie.

theconversation.com/the-strange-links-between-intelligence-and-prejudice-81155
>Remarkably the two ways of assessing intelligence had opposite associations with subtle racism. As expected, higher psychometric intelligence was associated with lower racism, largely because more intelligent people thought about social groups in less crudely categorical ways. However, higher self-assessed intelligence was associated with higher levels of racism.

iflscience.com/brain/researchers-find-link-between-low-intelligence-and-homophobia/
>Researchers from the University of Queensland, Australia looked at the link between intelligence and attitudes towards same-sex couples, building on previous studies that have shown correlations between having a low IQ and supporting prejudiced views, such as homophobia and racism.
>They found, essentially, that the stupider you are, the more likely you are to be prejudiced against same-sex couples.
>"There are well-known correlations between low cognitive ability and support of prejudicial or non-egalitarian attitudes," the authors write in the study.

RIP thread. The leftards have been exposed and will now destroy it, like they destroy everything they infect. It was good while it lasted, though.

>Climate change
Like what? the world "ending in 12 years" ???? KEK
>IQ correlation with political views
LOL, no we don't. We love to point out that democrats have low IQs.
>pic related
>bonus insult
Don't you think it's funny how dumb liberals like IQ when they think it makes them smart but hate IQ when it comes to women and race? LOL.
>Paedophile correlation with us states (and political parties)
Wtf? we're the ones that draw attention to the paedophilia of liberals, jews, muslims, communists and freemasons. We are always pointing this shit out and we openly want to gas paedophiles. We are an anti-paedophile movement. Liberals are pro child abuse which is why they train little boys to be strippers and support circumcision.

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>STAR WARS WAS ALWAYS BAD

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Ironic that OP is sad that leftist Disney destroyed Star Wars while leftist Disney apologists also arrive to destroy his thread.

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>/pol/ invades a thread
>"FUCKING BASED. What's wrong trannies? When all media is political, the conversation will always get political too"
>Someone responds to /pol/ properly
>"REE FUCKING LEFTIES KILLED THE THREAD"
Why are right-wingers so stupid?

You were the one that screeched /pol/ after it was proven that SJW woke crap killed Star Wars. You cried /pol/ then blame pol for responding, just like you create false racism then call people racists for responding to it.

It's not their fault, they're genetically predisposed to being idiots

All Star Wars movies made after episode 5 are shit. Just because you retards like the prequels's aesthetics it doesn't change the fact that their script, filming and half of the characters/actors are cringe compilation tier. Ewoks? JarJar? 30 min battle above a lava harvesting plant? Only an unchecked retard like George Lucas and the yes-men he surrounded himself with would think those were good ideas.
Prequels have plenty of enjoyable elements in them but they're still 4/10 movies at best.

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>this much revisionism

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this post is the definition of mental illness

>It's over

You fucking WISH it was over. Disney is going to whore this fucking franchise to hell and back and then back again.

IT'S RIGHT IN THE THREAD YOU FUCKING IDIOT!

Look at these leftist parasites, every word they type is a fucking LIE and you can see it in everything they do.

I hate Mike the most specifically because he never shuts the fuck up about Star Wars/Trek.

Fuck Mike.

>Ignoring all these posts

>Return of the Jedi was bad!

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After TLJ I have two words for Disney's Star Wars: eternal boycott

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See, some of the EU was retarded, but it approached its absurdity in a way that was charming, and never shit on the main cast like the sequel movies did. Han got some kids and was a decent father, even had one grow up to be a really good pilot, and Luke fucked a sith assassin so well she became his loyal wife and was one of the best new characters.
Hell, even Akbar had a good place in the EU, instead of dying like a bitch off camera

>Using IQ to attack "racists"
>Ignoring IQ when it validates racialism.
>Pretending that you cannot be racist to Whites
>End up being a low IQ racist because most liberals are low IQ racists.

I agree though, most racists are idiots because most racists are liberals.

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I enjoy watching this /pol/tard sperg out that the thread's been ruined cause of politics. Now you know what all the none /pol/tards have been complaining about for the last 5 years

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It's also important to point out the supreme intellectual superiority right wing libertarians and /pol/tards have over leftists.

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>ignores the stats
>waboutism
>draws conclusion completely contradictory to the scientific articles while posting absolutely zero evidence
Yeah, it looks like a low iq /pol/ shitposter alright

I loved the prequels, and the sequels only deepen my appreciation of Lucas' vision.

How many people get complete creative control over their vision?

So you're saying the neurotic twitter trannies are smarter than the centrists pointing out that the democrats and republicans are both retarded?

They have several issues and are hampered by awful dialogue, but still have some cool lore and designs to them. I wouldn't call attack of the clones great, but the last half of phantom and sith were solid

>I witnessed the biggest fuck up in cinema history
It could've been worse user. It WILL get worse, just you wait.

We could elevate the level of film and television if we just stopped talking about Disney products. Let the shills shill to each other while we move on from being led like children to the latest focus group claptrap.

Who is with me?

I take the No Disney Pledge!
Say it!
I TAKE THE NO DISNEY PLEDGE.

>ewoks
>slapstick humor
>the whole Jabba scene
Rest of the movie was at least fine if not great

>The very fact hat you have rights is primarily because of men
>I treated you as my property and now go have some rights, and don't forget to be thankful for it! XD
The logical fallacy is too strong.

>MEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE TEH POVERTY DUUUURRRRRRR
Absolutely uneducated retard.
oxfam.org/en/even-it/why-majority-worlds-poor-are-women

How is it revisionism you fucking clown?
This shit is all extensively fucking documented. SJW ruined starwars, not "capitalism". It wasn't "cold hard capitalism" that made them start saying that the empire represented Whites and saying that star wars is about the "centrality of female characters" or whatever.
>pic related
And yes, he is Jewish.
So that means it's a Jewish man within the media promoting anti-White sentiment with a franchise that was literally created by a White man.

Just another one of those little coincidences.

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>Kemmelmeier
reason.com/2014/06/13/are-conservatives-dumber-than-liberals
>Kemmelmeier ruefully notes that “this result was not anticipated” and “diametrically contradicts” the hypothesis that conservatism is linked to lower cognitive ability. Kemmelmeier is so evidently lost in the intellectual fog of contemporary progressivism that he does not realize that his questionnaire is impeccably designed to identify classical liberals, a.k.a. libertarians, who endorse liberty in both the social and economic realms.
And in response to that, we get Noah Carl,
>Carl begins by pointing out that there is data suggesting that a segment of the American population holding classical liberal beliefs tends to vote Republican. Classical liberals, Carl notes, believe that an individual should be free to make his own lifestyle choices and to enjoy the profits derived from voluntary transactions with others. He proposes that intelligence actually correlates with classically liberal beliefs.
> Carl further reports that those who endorse both social conservatism and economic statism also have lower verbal IQ scores.
>“Overall, my findings suggest that higher intelligence among classically liberal Republicans compensates for lower intelligence among socially conservative Republicans,” concludes Carl. If the dumb, I mean socially conservative, Republicans keep disrespecting us classical liberals, we’ll take our IQ points and go home.

In short, the smart republicans are the ones who don't go around ree'ing about degeneracy and nonwhites (ie. not you)

>can't read the thread
>Strawmans all over the place
Just keep being you

The series works better as a classic good versus evil story, user. Hence the heroes journey and fairy tale motif. Things in star wars started to suck the instant moral ambiguity reared its ugly head

>In 2011 Yea Forums fucking hated the prequels with a passion. What happened? Is it just contrarianism in reaction to the new movies or is it nostalgia from people who were 6 when they saw Revenge of the Sith?
They seem better compared to Disney slop. Rewatching them recently, they are obviously deeply flawed with aged and overabundant CGI, shitty acting, and a lot of stupid sequences (everything with Anakin and Padme). The writing, story, setting, themes, characters, music, visuals, and production design all are superior to Disney shit. They could have been good, and have redeeming qualities, while Disney Wars was worthless trite from its inception.

>15 years from now will everybody love the sequel trilogy in response even newer movies?
No, these will be the laughably stupid ones

OP here and all I said in my other post was that I think there is more to it than just SJWs and that the lack of creative vision is prevalent in Hollywood. The same thing can be observed in the anime industry and it's not invaded by SJWs. But people blinded by ideology are not able to see it.
I didn't want this thread to become a dumpsterfire, I don't want trump supporters and trannies fighting here, I wanted it to be a comfy thread where people can share some nostalgia.

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>The logical fallacy is too strong.
There's no logical fallacy. Legal frameworks primarily created by men are the reason women have "rights". You do not have "rights" in nature. Rights are protections provided by others, primarily men. These protections extended to women from men far eclipse the reverse. It has often historically been accepted that in times of emergency that "women and children" are the priority over men.
>I treated you as my property and now go have some rights, and don't forget to be thankful for it! XD
This claim has no historical basis. Women have not been "property" for most of history.
Slavery affected men too.
You're an uneducated spastic.
>oxfam.org/en/even-it/why-majority-worlds-poor-are-women
That's not actual poverty.
Lower wages on average =/= poverty.
Homelessness by contrast = genuine material poverty. Most homeless people are men.

Also it is worth noting that most of the bad treatment of women exists outside of the White west, which is ironic because according to feminists White men are the most evil men in the world and the source of all the worlds problems.
Funny how that works.

Feminists are worthless subhumans.

Pretty much this.
Quick reminder that the prequels are also the mouses property

another major reason this shift is occurring is because the demographics of who are mindless consumers has shifted. White men checking out is a real phenomena and to fill that void of brainless consumerism companies have begun heavily targeting women and minorities

>Jabba scene
>bad at all
lmao

>posting the lamest underage looking reddit shit imaginable

God I hate poltards so much.

Nothing you wrote contradicts what I pointed out about our superiority.
>In short, the smart republicans are the ones who don't go around ree'ing about degeneracy and nonwhites (ie. not you)

No it doesn't. You can have morals and libertarian. You just expect people to be accountable for their behaviour and take responsibility for their actions. This means not blaming all of your problems on White people and men all the time.
That non-Whites disproportionately cause a lot of trouble in the West not something unworthy of being noted and pointed out. It's true. Liberals cannot accept this and instead blame it on Whites. We right wingers have every reason to fucking talk about this type of shit and when it comes to start wars it is valid.
I LITERALLY POSTED EVIDENCE OF LIBERALS TRYING TO USE STAR WARS TO ATTACK WHITES AND MEN.

It is undeniable.

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Can you be racist to White people?

Yes or no.

We could elevate the level of film and television if we just stopped talking about Disney products. Let the shills shill to each other while we move on from being led like children to the latest focus group claptrap.

Who is with me?

I take the No Disney Pledge!
Say it!
I TAKE THE NO DISNEY PLEDGE.

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>ignores everything that doesn't agree with his worldview and then goes on an unsubstantiated rant
Yep, it's a /pol/tard

>the poltard is still sperging out

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Thanks for ruining the thread, poltards.

Not always, just the prequels and parts of Return of the jedi.

You've been caught openly lying and all you have to do is read the thread. You've just lied repeatedly for the entire thread to see, and yet you double-down like a child instead of acknowledging it to try and expand the debate or just leaving like most other adults would.
Keep lying--every post you make is more pathetic than the last.

No one was complaining that politics killed the thread, they were complaining that leftist SJW's killed the thread, which they did. Again, another obvious and provable lie.
Why cant you stop lying, son? Why?

I haven't supported Disney for years, but their hold on entertainment media is difficult to fight, especially with kids, women, and liberals. That's the dangerous thing about monopolies and why there are laws against them.

3 posts by the same faggot within 3 minutes
top kek

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I TAKE THE NO DISNEY PLEDGE

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British "people"

>still can't respond to any of the actual arguments
>conflates multiple posters as a single poster cause he can't accept more than one person would call him out for being retarded
>is too stupid to get the point being pushed across
I feel like this is proof that the average IQ of /pol/ is sub 80

>poop is not good to eat
>ya but diareah is worse so poop is good to eat

>people can't post within a minute of each other
You sound mad?

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I mean I would. But the last jedi threads were the comfiest threads on Yea Forums and it beats random posters complaining about black people in hollywood

I really don't think you guys will ever shut up about these retarded ass films.

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>smart republican
Oxymoron.

>The writing, story
>better than the Disney shit
Imagine being this contrarian.

You guys just don't know how to connect the fucking dots do you? You arrange your metaphysics around what is convenient to you at the time and collapse upon impact with consistent reality.

"haha you right wingers have lower IQs".
1) That isn't true, Republicans have higher IQs
2) So you believe in IQ now? that means-
3) The smartest people are usually wealthy White men.
According to you knuckledragging morons, "ebil white rich men" only succeed because of "unearned privilege" but according to psychometric research, it's actually because are very intelligent. They have good starts in life because their intelligent parents invested in their children instead of abandoning them with a dumbfuck liberal mother who had a thing for "bad boyz".

Part of the reason we are libertarians is because we know you worthless losers will fucking ROT without handouts from the government. You will bring about your own destruction due to your own stupid and fucking shit lifestyle choices.

>totally not a samefag

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So you're saying that people aren't equal and intelligence correaltes with lifestyle chpices?

Right? right? RIIIGHT?

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>implying you didn't use your phone and probably a tablet

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>more strawman arguments
You literally can't grasp the idea that people who disagree with you don't all think the exact same thing, it's really weird.

With the live viewers of the trailer release only reaching 240k (which is interesting because it tracks active viewers and no dublicates) what will disney do to do rekindle interest in the dying brand that is star wars?
I don't think whatever they try will be successful but they will try something for sure.

>visuals
>superior to Disney shit
I don't know about that user...

The prequels were retarded but actually fun to watch, and they brought a shitton of new material to the world. TFA and TLJ had like 3 new ships and a Death Star copy, and that's fucking it. No new factions, boring, unoriginal worlds, horrible spacefights, etc.

>wasting all that effort to reply to a shitpost

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>he actually typed all that out
literally el oh elling at your life rn

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I'm saying it's weird watching a gypsy defend burgers.

> I wouldn't call attack of the clones great

Everything about Anakin was awful, but the battles were fucking amazing, especially considering the games and animated series it has spawned.

> implying it's over
why would it be over?

>but the battles were fucking amazing
They were boring shit.
>especially considering the games and animated series it has spawned.
Has absolutely no bearing on the movie.

>especially considering the games and animated series it has spawned.
While I agree, this doesn't factor into the quality of the film itself.

While I welcome the sheevposting I don't think it will work. First they brought the deathstar back, than a movie without a plot and now the emperor.
And it's not like Marvel where post credit scene 3 of movie 12 slightly hinted at something like this to sell it to normies as clever.

>lie
>lie
>lie
lie?

>The people who were adults when Star Wars first came out are nowhere to be seen.
cause they don't use the internet or are dead

geez get a room you guys

>the visual difference between those bars portraying the difference between 102.74 and 97.26 "accurately"

The sheer irony of how even republican propagandists think republican voters are stupid as fuck.

I remember when everyone fucking hated TCW and especially Ahsoka, crowning her the new Jar Jar

Now TCW is this perfect masterpiece. What happened? The kids who watched TCW grew up and are controlling the discourse, that's what happened.

>You literally can't grasp the idea that people who disagree with you don't all think the exact same thing, it's really weird.
Reality isn't subjective you fucking idiot. Biological realities are not "opinions" they are fucking cold hard facts. There are no "social realities" only a consistent stable reality that exists independent of your opinions and delusions.
Me laughing at you INFERIOR LOSERS for flip flopping on your support for IQ when it is convenient or inconvenient is not simply an "opinion" but a mockery of the objective absolute truth that you are inconsistent stupid faggots.

You ruined star wars. You will NOT be allowed to ruin the rest of civilisation.
You believe in gender.
LOL
It's weird watching your mom.

Agreed. I strongly dislike the prequels, but you can't deny certain facts about them like this. The world felt Star Wars and introduced a shitload of new, creative stuff. Lucas certainly tried, but he needed a trusted team of creators to help him write and encourage his great actors to expand their roles.

I never understood why Queen Amidala always acted like some cold fucking robot, especially alongside the cold robotic Jedi that had very little personality. What the hell kind of decision is that when you have an actress as talented as Natalie Portman? What in the actual fucking hell, George?

>Okay Natalie, I'm gonna need you to speak in flat monotone and make zero facial expression for this entire movie. Now stand in front of this green screen, that's great.

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curvă

LOL no shit, only sheev is more powerful than woke points. I mean when you're SJW movie is so bad that not even SJW's like it, you know you've truly fucked up.

It gives me great joy imagining you sitting at your computer furiously typing all these strawman arguments out as the cheeto dust from your keyboard creates an orange haze around you

The brilliance of Star Wars is appealing to kids. It's like a religion. Lose to adults, win with kids. They get disillusioned when they grow up? No problem, a new generation of kids are just about hit the age of the video game with the micro-transactions. The one that was literally triggering gambling laws a few months ago.

I can get not liking Ahsoka, but who hated the clone wars? That was one of the coolest cartoons.. like how the fuck could you possibly hate it?

>propagandists
HAHAHAHA COPE
>I feel like this is proof that the average IQ of /pol/ is sub 80
> sub 80

So basically the lower the IQ the lower the intelligence and the less sensible the behaviour?
Is that what you are suggesting liberal?

HmmmmMMMMM?????

Liberals
>*clap*
Are
>*clap*
Too
>*clap*
Stupid
>*clap*

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>doesn't have an argument
>strawman, cheetos
sad

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>everyone I don't like thinks the same thing
Maybe if you'd stop preaching about how the world was flat, you'd learn something
A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

>cheeto dust

So much for being against body shaming eh?

I love the way liberals can never stick to their own extremely stupid world views. They are anti-racist, until it comes to White people. They are anti-sexist until it comes to men. They are about unity, until it comes to other peoples opinions. They are pro body acceptance until they get mad.

At least right wingers like myself are consistent when we call left wingers stupid animals that belong in a cages.

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A little off-topic but bear with me for a moment. That mix of anger and amusement you spoke of? That instant fix? Yeah, that's literally smartphones, social media and outrage culture conditioning you on how to think and act, all the while rewiring your brain to feel pleasure from the worst and most unnatural things out there. If you want my advice, and you have no reason to since I'm just another asshole on the internet, take a week every month where you switch everything off and don't go online at all. Center yourself, read a book, go on a hike, have a beer with a friend you haven't talked to in a while, cal your mom, clean the fucking attic or even dust off those OT VHS tapes and kick back with some quality Star Wars. That said, do this within reason. Like, don't risk getting fired because you refused to answer your phone. Just take a step back for a moment and really see the bigger picture before you jump in again. Truth is, the longer any of us participates in this madness, the less human we become. Cheers, OP.

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A big reason was the animation, a lot of people hated it and compared it to puppets on strings.

Also Ahsoka being childish and annoying
"Anakin's voice actor doesn't fit"
"The show meddles with established canon"
"The show ruined Mandalorians"
etc.

Also this was only a few years after RotS so anti-prequel sentiments were still going strong.

Not me though, I liked it since s1. The pilot episode with Yoda and the Clones is great, also the Ryloth arc and Plo Koon being a total bro all the time.

>he still thinks he talks to one person
Oh no no no absolute retard

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>it's a /pol/ gets BTFO episode
getting tired of these reruns

What country were you from again, user? You're from the EU?

The world is flat only because your mom sat on it.

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We could elevate the level of film and television if we just stopped talking about Disney products. Let the shills shill to each other while we move on from being led like children to the latest focus group claptrap.

Who is with me?

I take the No Disney Pledge!
Say it!
I TAKE THE NO DISNEY PLEDGE.
I TAKE THE NO DISNEY PLEDGE!
I TAKE THE NO DISNEY PLEDGE!!!

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All you liberal freaks are the same person essentially anyway.
Germany

Good post, thanks. Yeah the early animation was a bit rough, but by the time of like season 3 and getting into the Umbara campaign, the shit was incredible. There were some battle scenes that had the effects and cinematography of great war movies, not exaggerating.

Why were people ass blasted about the mandos? I thought CW made them pretty awesome?

>It's still posting.

That makes no sense user. The amount forced required to flatten the world would simultaneously eviscerate all life on the planet and almost certainly knock the earth out of orbit. Please don't be so recklessly stupid

EU neo-liberal economic policies turned your country into the greatest powerhouse in Europe, user. I'd be a bit more grateful for Mutti if I were you.

don't worry bro in a few years they will dig up another fan favourite to shit on

>It doesn't have an argument

Yeah well, your mom is pretty fat.

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>he thinks it's possible to samefag 2 posts in under a minute
I want tourists to leave

Fuck the economy

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I don't remember anyone hating Clone Wars. I never watched it myself, I just saw it as a cartoon for kids and that kids seemed to enjoy. To me it looked like the Late Millennial and early Zoomer equivalent of what Fox Kids* was for late Gen-X and early Millennials in the 90s. Maybe even a step up from those.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gargoyles_(TV_series)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Animated_Series
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men_(TV_series)

Kinda hard to do when every time a quality thread pops up it sinks to page 10 within minutes because people somehow feel the need to reply to obvious bait, capeshit, nuwars, company wars, celebrity gossip and fetish threads instead.

> What a journey.
You know what's funny?

The fan resistance has turned out to be a life theatre star wars movie. We may not get to see a star wars movie again, but at least we can say that we genuinely lived through the star wars.

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does anyone else get a feeling of punching themselves and slamming their head in a wall untill they knock themselves out when watching the new disney star wars?

There there OP... SJWs have infected enough IPs and will keep ruining stuff and triggering people after SW. Death is not the end, it´s just another path, one we must all take.

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Not him - but nobody is thankful for mutti that doesn't own a multi million euro corp.
What use is a powerhouse if you can't afford your apartment anymore in it?

Not him but I'm a marxist and I don't deny IQ. I don't want muslims and africans in Europe. I shit on kike Nuwars. I also think republicans are retarded and I despise both right wingers and libtards. I also think you're a retard. What now, dumb poltard amerifat? Not everything is black and white.

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this post is obviously a jewish psyop to confuse based and redpilled posters

Before TCW, Mandalorians were portrayed as this race of brutal, fierce and noble warrior clans. Their entire lives revolved around war and conquest. In case you want to go down the rabbit hole:
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mandalorian/Legends

So when TCW introduced pacifist Satine, a lot of fans completely lost their shit

As we both know the show actually didn't change that much, they just introduced the idea of modern/pacifist Mandalorians and traditionalist/warrior Mandalorians (Death Watch) but oh well you know how fans can be sometimes

boo-hoo

I'm an antisemite though.

>So when TCW introduced pacifist Satine, a lot of fans completely lost their shit
How could you possibly hate this qt?

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The scenes with live action actors are obviously inferior, but Nu Wars has nothing cool to look at, the environments are uninspired compared to the prequel planets. Clone aesthetic was way better than First Order, ships were way better. Aliens were far better designed. That sort sort of shit is what I mean.

Well, The Force Awakens obviously has better writing than the prequels, but the Last Jedi makes up for the difference taken on the whole.

Story is honestly indisputable. The Force Awakens by itself, maybe, but certainly not the sequels as a whole, which basically has no overarching narrative after Last Jedi built up to nothing interesting for 9 to resolve

See hereFaggot.

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Then you mean art design, but yeah I agree. Doug Chiang is a genius.

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Except it doesn't apply to me. Your burger mind is too simple to grasp the idea that the downfall of cinematography and culture is caused by more than one or two factors, same with the fact that not everyone who replies to you is a SJW tranny supporter.

The golden age, lol.

Roger roger

Just have sex

Ohh shit thanks for reminding me about Satine. I can see how fans were triggered.

Yeah bro that superior Force Awakens writing:
>Young person on sand planet finds runaway robot, joins ragtag band of rebels fighting evil galactic military.
>Learns about their force-sensitivity from a wise old person.
>Helps destroy a massive superweapon with the ability to destroy planets.

Incredible writing, just amazing. How did they come up with such concepts?

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>TFA being better than anyone at anything

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This is the ultimate rundown. Based and Bogpilled.

>posting the same tired copypasta
This has been refuted several times. TFA was shit. TLJ is shit forced down your throat multiple times.
Nothing about TFA forced them to make TLJ and you've got to be an inbred hillbilly to think otherwise

I honestly don't consider anything Disney has made to be anything other than fanfiction. The originals were professional movies. The prequels were amateurish, but there was still a lot of process involved and a story which, as shit as it was, at least existed. NuWars is basically a high school production to scam people into buying toys and other merchandise. You can absolutely tell there was no thought put into it whatsoever. It was as bare bones a plot and a story as possible, no character development at all, no new ideas, nothing original or unique. They treated the movies with the same care as a 9-to-5 minimum wage employee at a burger joint. And while everyone involved in the process didn't give a fuck, a bunch of left-wing mutants threw their toxic politics all over it like raw sewage, making it even less enjoyable and fun.

There's zero white guys that are on the good side, and 100% of the bad guys are white. This was a conscious choice for race-bashing. Everyone was sick of that shit years ago. It's tragic, everyone knew Lando Calrissian growing up. He was a Jimmi Hendrix space aristocrat. He was loved. I can't even name the black guy in NuWars. He's just Mug McSpacediversity. Rey could die in the opening scene in the new movie and I would feel nothing. It wouldn't even be amusing. There was no hero's journey with her. She was just instantly good at everything, because. If you point this out, "fuck you misogynist" was the answer. From the writers. She also has no motivation to do any of the things she's doing. There's no arc. Nobody, not one fucking character, has any arc. They just do things, and then they go somewhere else and do more things. TLJ was really the moment you realized nobody gave a fuck about this series. A bunch of socialists were in the writer's room concocting bullshit and some cigar-chomping Disney exec said "Anti-capitalism in a StarWars movie? Yeah, fuck it! Just get the thing out before Christmas! We gotta sell more toys!"

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He's right, though. The core difference between TFA and TLJ is that TFA broke Star Wars, while TLJ broke nuwars.

What the fuck are you even talking about, retard? You can't "refute it" because it's the factual truth.

It's better than the prequels is the point my butthurt user.

>The prequels is basically a high school production to scam people into buying toys and other merchandise.
Fixed. George was making a blatant cash grab. Search your feelings.

Great post.

No it's absolutely not, in any way, you drooling turbo retard.

The point is that TFA didn't break star wars though. Just like midichlorians in TPM didn't break star wars, neither did any of TFA's shit.

>There's zero white guys that are on the good side
Max Von Sydow's character in the opening scene? Han Solo? Luke? Broom boy?
Hell, most people would consider Poe pretty fucking white...

This should be framed and placed on the door of the Story Group's conference room and anyone who disagrees with it should be fired on the spot.

better story structure and much better dialogue
>b-b-but it's shit
Yes, we all know. Still a million times better than the prequels. Cry more zoomer.

Of course it was, but it wasn't as blatant. There was still an attempt by Georgie to come up with some kind of a MOVIE. The first movie was outright gay and made for young children, we all know that. But he wised up, and the second prequel at least had some decent action. The third prequel was as close to a serious attempt at a movie that he could muster, and even as horrible as the prequels were, they're movies. They're watchable. They have plots, and character arcs, and settings, and comprehensible stories, and motivations, and enough stupid things or action to keep you interested.

TFA and TLJ had neither of those. Both movies also take place in the span of about 48 hours. So in two days, some rando dirt girl goes from picking trash to fighting the emperor of space or some bullshit using powers she neither earned nor trained with. It was unbearably stupid and outright insulting. The only positive I can give NuWars is that they're competently shot. The director of photography, whoever it is, is actually good at his job. But he's probably sucking on a shotgun right now working on the last movie.

>as horrible as the prequels were

>There was still an attempt by Georgie to come up with some kind of a MOVIE.
Was there? ILM was doing all the work with the special effects. All Georgie did was write a pathetic script and then film some of the most boring dialogue in movie history.

stop spamming your retarded shit

Ackbar being basically the savior of the New Republic during the Yuuzhan Vong War was pretty cool desu

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The thing about the PT is I can see how it could be fixed. It has a ton of flaws but they aren't endemic to the story. The sequels though I can only imagine scrapping them completely and starting over again.

Whatever happened to Garm bel Iblis?

Feels like later novels just forgot about him

I dunno, but he probably went off to retire and die quietly. He was already in his 50s or 60s by the time of ANH, which puts him close to 90 by the Yuuzhan Vong War.

>"better story structure"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did you ACTUALLY just say that? Really?? You can't be serious.

Oh my god, you're actually serious.
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
*breathes in*
AA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

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correction: he was elected Senator of Corellia in 35 BBY, meaning he's actually over 100 by YVW, assuming he was elected in his 20s or 30s

>haha
Fantastic counter-argument user have a (you)

>The sequels though I can only imagine scrapping them completely and starting over again.
Eh, there are some compelling ideas, they're just executed fucking terribly. Luke being a broken man after losing all his students to either the dark side or being murdered by his nephew could be interesting, but not with how Rian shit it out. Kylo Ren rejecting the dark side and the light side and trying to forge something new independent of tradition could be cool, but no they abandon that idea like two minutes later.

Any mistakes the creator of any given work of fiction makes will always be infinitely less harmful than the mistakes people unfamiliar with said work make while trying to ape its glory days. If you're unable to see how TFA fundamentally breaks Star Wars, then you're not a real Star Wars fan.
>inb4 no true Scotsman
The people who know the Thrawn trilogy by heart? The people who have wasted thousands of hours on Star Wars: TIE Fighter? The people whose garages are filled with boxes upon boxes of action figures? The people who have memorized serial numbers on R2 unit restraining bolts? The people who have been supporting this franchise for 40 years? Those are the true fans. And we all agree that Mouse Wars is horrible.

>no argument, just butthurt
kek

>The people who know the Thrawn trilogy by heart? The people who have wasted thousands of hours on Star Wars: TIE Fighter? The people whose garages are filled with boxes upon boxes of action figures? The people who have memorized serial numbers on R2 unit restraining bolts? The people who have been supporting this franchise for 40 years?
That's me and I liked TFA tbqh, don't pretend to speak for everybody user

Masterfully crafted argument, good sir.

>inb4 no true Scotsman
>uses a no true Scotsman
kek

>The people who know the Thrawn trilogy by heart? The people who have wasted thousands of hours on Star Wars: TIE Fighter? The people whose garages are filled with boxes upon boxes of action figures? The people who have memorized serial numbers on R2 unit restraining bolts? The people who have been supporting this franchise for 40 years? Those are the true fans. And we all agree that Mouse Wars is horrible.
This is the cringiest thing I've read on Yea Forums today and I've read a lot of cringey posts today

>arguing against pasta
wew

Speak for yourself turbonerd

It's mathematically impossible to be such a person and at the same time like nuwars.

HAHAHAHAHA I already stated the obvious, which is all you need to do to 'disprove' such a claim. TFA was a complete rehash of OT material, some of it almost exact copy, while the PT's were original stories. Trade Federation, Naboo, podracing, Coruscant, etc..

You are an actual, medically-certified retard if you even think you can argue this or it's some sort of an opinion.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>if it's 100% factual but it's an image then it's pasta
Again, I'm blown away by the sheer force of your mental capacity and debating skills.

>I made an absolutely retarded claim that is obviously false and/or literal trolling.
>Why didn't you argue it?

>some of it almost exact copy, while the PT's were original stories
Is the structure better or not? Butthurt user forgot how to read apparently :^)

>Yeah but discord trannies are pro-actively trying to attack /pol/ because trannies have a strong emotional investment in trying to prevent /pol/ from exerting its influence.
That's kinda stupid, considering that /pol/ would accept trannies if they were AESTHETIC
t. /pol/

>it's mathematically impossible to not share my opinion
Drink some water user, also didn't say I liked all of nuwars I said I liked TFA. It's a standard Abrams flick and the guy knows how to make crowd pleasers.

Go pretend you're not a nerd on /fit/ or /k/ because you're not going to impress anybody here faggot.

Page me next time you gush about your favorite thing that someone destroyed and I'll jump right in and call you a cringelord.

>butthurt enough to samefag
wew

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>my opinion is 100% factual
I'm blown away by your assumption that anyone would want to argue with a child

Just because you keep saying "butthurt" while you're laughed at for being a retard doesn't mean I am.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yep. Easy to compare, too.

Anakin:
>Young naive kid becomes corrupted through having access to too much power, becoming first arrogant, and then evil. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Evil is also often initiated while trying to enact good. Those friends he had around him failed to steer him on a good path due to a combination of hubris, outdated religious dogma, and arrogance of their own. Any good person can turn bad through the right combination of factors.

Rey:
>I don't know who my parents are...
>...
>...
>???
>Okay I'm going to fight people with space powers now. Because I have them.

They actually blew a big chance with Rey as a character. She could have been born with those ingrained Force powers and not really understood what it is she had, and with no parents or friends to guide her, starts becoming slowly evil and violent with them on that shithole planet as she grows older. Like, she gets scammed by the food dispenser guy and gets mad and force-chokes him or something, then wonders what the fuck just happened. From there you could have had all the space explosions and coincidental encounters with people, resulting in her meeting Edgelord Spacemuscles, and realizing she doesn't want to wind up like him. Thus through sheer will she becomes good again and fights for oppressed people for a reason, rather than simply just because she's fucking there and bored or something.

>anons are still seething about star wars
Damn, and I thought the tears when the prequels were still coming out were glorious.

You did use a No True Scotsman. Lampshading it doesn't give you the right to do it.

>Women and blacks basically have rights thanks to white men because they allowed it, but Star Wars being ruined is feminists' fault, not the fault of white men who allowed to ruin it
You forgot to mention the jews

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Sounds like an interesting concept tbqh

Okay then, let's try this another way. Is it possible to be a hardcore Trekkie with deep knowledge of the lore, characters and setting and be a fan of STD? I'm the only SW nerd in a circle of Trekkies and all of them hate it. We're talking about a diverse sample of about 17 people here, most of whom are also liberal, just in case you were about to make some kind of retarded "only alt-right Trekkie incels hate STD" argument.

What you wrote about Rey would've been fucking awesome, and would've absolutely worked and fit with Luke's self-imposed exile. When she meets him, he sees in her the same evil that was in Kylo, even though it was because she was abandoned and had no guidance.

There are so many EASY ways these new movies could've been great. It was fucking easy-mode for Disney and they absolutely critically fucked it up in every possible way. How goddamn embarrassing...

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>Men are not a collective
*proceeds to act like women are a collective*

Rey is weak as a character but that doesn't excuse the prequels as a whole. Anakin had shit motivations throughout the prequels anyway.
>Young naive kid becomes corrupted through having access to too much power, becoming first arrogant, and then evil.
This didn't even happen though. He got tricked into helping Palpatine because the guy said he knew some secret force techniques to save his wife, whom anakin had a premonition that she would die. Hell, Anakin is shit in comparison to Finn of all things. Let that sink in.

I saved it exactly because it's also my opinion, but that doesn't make it any less true. Can you refute a single thing from that picture?

>Let that sink in
This has got to be bait. This level of retard can't possibly be real.
I like how you ignored Anakin's slave upbringing and subsequent massacre of the sandpeople that raped his mother to death.
>Let that sink in

Good question, but I have zero contact to Trekkies so I can't say.

But from what I've heard, didn't STD turn out to be set in an alternate universe/dimension? So it's seperated from the rest of the lore and has no way to harm it, right? So it can't be that bad?

Why is it that you can pretty much guarantee a new series/movie is going to be complete shit when you find out it's "in an alternate universe and totally separate from former lore!"

>I like how you ignored Anakin's slave upbringing and subsequent massacre of the sandpeople that raped his mother to death.
Yes, he had a moment of anger, but that doesn't excuse that the crux of his fall to the dark side is because he was tricked into it, and Palpatine reveals he doesn't actually know the life saving force power thing like a minute after he cuts Sam Jackson's arm off.

How could I? It's 100% factual.

Here's one: "Kennedy is a cunt for forcing her stupid fucking politics into..." -> George is a hardcore feminist and hippie. He has always put his political views into SW. SW has always been political. The Empire is an allegory of the Nixon administration. Look up the video of James Cameron interviewing George if you like to learn more about that.

I suppose it indicates that the writers are too lazy to learn about all the previous shows.

The crux of his fall to the dark side was that he was in love and this inflamed his passion and made him do reckless things, you know kind of the entire point of Episode 2? You're an idiot, you're wrong, and you lose.

>prequel apologists still at it
zoom zoom little zoomers

What's the worst EU book they could've adapted as a sequel movie instead?

A good point.

>The crux of his fall to the dark side was that he was in love and this inflamed his passion and made him do reckless things
Like being tricked? Are you denying it happened? Can't believe self proclaimed star wars fans are defending a character assassination like this shit.

Jedi Prince, duh

>Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia

Ah, yes. "You're a part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take her away!" is just the same as "THE LAST DAY OF THE REPUBLICCJKBGYRVCYBRNAERC*stroke*".

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>SW has always been political
Never have sex.

Yeah, Disney is less subtle about it than George, but it's still the exact same politics in both cases. My point stands.

Too late, unless there is a way to unfuck your mother

Stop responding, you've already lost.

>So it can't be that bad?
It is bad because it's not Star Trek.

Star Trek is a technocratic space socialism where the guiding principle is curiosity and the willingness to face our fears of the unknown and explore out similarities instead of our differences. It literally the most hippie liberal thing ever. It is episodes upon episodes of people talking, discussing, doing finely calibrated diplomacy, and trying to understand and be tolerant strange alien customs or weird space phenomea like dark matter slugs that actually turn out to be sentient (didn't make that up).

From what I heard, STD is explosions, death, war, and fears of apocalyptic space annihilation events and everyone trying to be powerful and badass.

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Imagine if Disney announced a Star Wars trilogy where the villain is fucking bugs

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>getting this butthurt
kek

>tfw Starship Troopers/SW meme crossover potential

Still better than nuwars.

>didn't STD turn out to be set in an alternate universe/dimension?
I only watched the first season, but in that they made no mention of it being a different universe/timeline/whatever. Maybe they introduced something in season 2 along those lines but I wasn't interested in watching anymore of that trash so I can't confirm.

I feel bad for Trekkies tbqh, all they want is people in uniforms discussing intricate philosophy on a cheap looking spaceship set with the occasional goofy alien costume walking by. This shit costs like 5 dollars per episode.

And Hollywood keeps offering them SW-tier spectacles instead. First JJ Abrams now STD.

I'm unironically /natsoc/, and I didn't see anything wrong with the movie last time I saw it.
>clear criticism of capitalism
Capitalism taken to the consolidated conglomerates we've had for a while exploits the nation for the profit of very few. The free market among small business must flourish, but billionaires need to stay out of the government and military.
>and decrying the colonising white man
I still contend that people need to be left alone in their home countries, the people deserve to not be fucked with. I wish our people's had not done this, but it's done. Many parts of the Americas are our ancestral homes now. Whites had the hubris that their cultures were so superior that they could be adopted by the primitive races of the Earth. How else could American conservatives believe that Iraqis would adopt democracy?
>the tired trope of the wise uncivilised morons versus the "brutish" colonisers
This is common for any invading peoples in a strange land. The British in the AR were disadvantaged by their lack of experience with the area they fought in. Same reason a bunch of Vietnamese rice farmers held off the wrath of the military industrial complex.
>oh yeah, the uncultured idiots living in tents are way smarter than science because mystic magic
Same thing as above. You don't know someone's home better than they do.
>Nonsense mumbo jumbo
It's a disney song...

Overall, I think you need to have sex, user.

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That series had three good things.

1. Saba
2. Leia actually becoming a competent Jedi
3. That scene where Luke roots himself in the heart of the force to beat Raynar

I appreciate your love for Starship Troopers but let's not act like Swarm War wasn't a steaming pile of shit. Nothing good came out of it and it had barely any effect on later stories.

First off, there's sledgehammers more subtle than Mouse Wars, and secondly, George's philosophy is diametrically opposed to this radical leftist nutjob propaganda that SW has devolved into.

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>First JJ Abrams now STD.
To be fair, most of the Next Generation movies were shit attempts at making action movies with very little trek nuance. Though there were still trek tv shows on the air so you had something to scratch that itch if you needed it.

George had a heavy handed critique of the Bush administration in the prequels.

>and it had barely any effect on later stories
And that's exactly why it doesn't bother me. Now compare that to the damage even the non-numbered Disney entries have done to the franchise.

>the Falcon is was a social justice droid in the body of a spacecraft all along!
I mean, really?

I didn't say anything about George's philosophy.

George's political views however are what you would call "radical leftist nutjob propaganda".

And may I say, you're doing a terrible job at pretending you're a Star Wars fan.

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>Climate change
Unless your talking about invading China and India and forcibly kneecapping their industrial progress, I don't want to hear anything about "what white people can do to combat climate change". It's a total waste.

>Now compare that to the damage even the non-numbered Disney entries have done to the franchise.
Right, NuWars has 0 effects on EU lore, thanks for reminding me user.

>I mean, really?
Considering the Droids started out as metaphor for the proletariat / minorities, I'd say it fits.
>WE DON'T SERVE YOUR KIND HERE

huh...

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It's not that. Trek can have excitement, but the primal principle should never be fear or power. It is paramount that it is the challenges that come with contact and understanding.

youtube.com/watch?v=sSp9geqULuY

There are aliens that do harmful shit, it is part of the deal, but not everyone is the Borg, an even the Borg isn't 100% evil. They are just a perversion of the very principle that Trek is about, curiosity.

If you try hard enough, you'll be able to interpret any work of fiction as something or other. The point is that with Mouse Wars, you don't really have to try. It's blatant to the point of retardation. You have a protagonist that's basically being handed the keys to the franchise because she has a vagina and stuff like Holdo opting to kill an entire fleet because she wanted to teach that toxic male, and by extension the audience, a lesson.

Yeah, but
>fuck Dubya
>fuck the CIA
>lol no WMDs
>fuck Bill Kristol
>fuck Israel

>Saba
Seriously though how the fuck did a literal lizard turn into one of her era's greatest most complex characters

Post-YV EU was a wild ride

>If you try hard enough, you'll be able to interpret any work of fiction as something or other.
Yeah, no shit. It's really blatant in the prequels, just making that clear in case you forgot.

They straight up namedropped the "Axis of Evil" in the George-approved novelization of RotS. Again, you're shit at acting like a legitimate fan.

Imagine wanting to send the US back to the stone age to curb CO2 by 14%.

None of that is in the movies, which is why they're universally beloved. There's a difference between inserting a well-written female character who earns her stripes in your story, and inserting, well... Rey.

Imagine thinking environmental regulations will send you back to the stone age.

>None of that is in the movies
The very first thing Leia does is once she's freed is ripping the E-11 out of Luke's hands

If Rey had done this is TFA, you'd never stop complaining about it

Again, not comparable to the heavy-handed 3rd wave feminism bullshit in nuwars. What's your point here? Was I supposed to reee at that because I'm a Nazi or something? Of course the Axis of Evil is bad and people use it to describe dark alliances in fiction. Now tell me how much of a fan you are because you saw TLJ 37 times in the theater and how much of a bigot I am because I hate shitty storytelling and lore rape.

Everytime I watch a ST clip it turns out to be pure, well-written, engaging kino. One day I'm going to actually sit down and actually watch these shows.

>this pathetic strawman
wew

Imagine voting for a communist bartender to crash the economy with no survivors to try to slow climate change a teensy bit.

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>conveniently forgetting to address my points and infinitely butthurt that I saw right through your bait

You can start with next gen. First season is really rough but there are episode guides if you want to get to the good stuff right away. I'd suggest checking out the /trek/ generals which are frequently up here if they hadn't already devolved into a disgusting shadow of their former selves. Stay far away.

Whether it's heavy-handed or not, doesn't change the nature of the politics. Again, George is leftist, Star Wars is leftist, it always has been. That's my point.

>What's your point here? Was I supposed to reee at that because I'm a Nazi or something?
You were supposed to be reminded that the RotS has the most heavy-handed *political symbolism* possible, it's not even trying to hide it. "Axis of Evil", fucking really. They didn't even try there. Imagine if Hux shouted "Gas the Jews Sieg Heil" during this speech. That's what this is.

Not even the user you replied to. Just pointing out how pathetic you are. Cope.