In retrospect did he make a bad career move by associating himself with DC?

He can never be a part of pop culture cornerstones like Star wars and Marvel.

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He is mediocre with big budgets, should have kept doing simple kino like Memento

Dunkirk was kino IMO. It also showed he is willing to correct his often criticized flaws in his movies.

Name a good marvel or Star Wars movie of the last 10 years

>correct his flaws
How so?

Batman Begins and the Dark Knight are both vastly more respected than any Marvel movies past Iron Man 08

From what I've observed
>No unnecessary exposition
>Spatial editing was much better

>You worked for company Y so you can never work for company X
>OP actually believes this

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He's literally a fucking garbage director

His movies have shit acting/shit death scenes
Cliche as maximum as possible DUDE LOVE in my 2001 space oddsey tryhard ripalooo
He is red and green colorblind thats why his films all looks the same, like shit
He can't frame
He can't edit
He has the worst sound editing possible in his films

He's legit not even a mediocre director
Pleb magnet

>Marvel
>pop culture cornerstone
Every Marvel film is a consumerist product that gets forgotten two weeks after release, meanwhile TDK is a cinematic milestone and Heath Ledger's Joker is an iconic character.

Really? is that why it has the same garbage soundtrack/soundediting/editing as all his flicks?
Fuck him and hans zimmer

Why are mousehsills after Nolan?

He didn't make a single bad move in his entire career.
Nolan is one of the few Hollywood directors who still do passion projects he wants to do personally without anyone interfering whatsoever.
He has 100% artistic integrity and works only with absolute creative freedom. The only demands he obeys from the studio is being done before the deadline and under the budget, which he does every single time without exception and why is he so loved by Warner bros.
And every single film of his becomes both a financial and critical success no matter the subject with no additional "directors cuts" because his theatrical cut is always the definitive directors cut.
No matter what you think of the quality of his films, he makes every film out of passion/desire to make that film, not because some studio exec calculated what should be done.

He basically has full creative freedom and untouched artistic integrity at a big budget Hollywood blockbuster

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Nolan has some good movies.... they're like popcorn films but strangely enough you can't always enjoy them that way. His brand of cinema really comes from that Post-Neoclassical style of Sentimentalism, Romanticism and Realism. The Naturalism of Zola seems kind of detached from everything that he wants to do, but there's some use of Impressionist symbolism in Inception. Sorry for using terminology

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dubs of truth

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>is that why it has the same garbage soundtrack/soundediting/editing as all his flicks?

Now this is how you know someone doesn't have genuine opinions of their and is just parroting others.

Nolan won an oscar for sound editing when technical Oscars meant something and hasn't worked with zimmer on all his films (The prestige and Memento being notable exceptions).

As for editing be specific, his scene to scene transitions are fine and his trademark style of cross cutting has been highly effective in his movies. His issues are usually spatial editing especially in fight sequences and since Dunkirk didn't have hand to hand combat there wasn't much to make mistakes on and his set pieces here were perfectly crafted too.(the dog fights)

don't you EVER use proper terminology on this board again, here you only speak in le kino or in le reddit you get it?

Okay boss I'll keep it to the minimum.

The Dark Knight is a pop culture cornerstone

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>Nolan won an oscar for sound editing when technical Oscars meant something
That just proves that he's shit
The oscars have never meant anything even the technical awards are garbage

Nolan doesn't sound edit, he's a director who implements others to edit his shit terribly.

His movies as unwatchable trash with terrible audio balancing

Of garbage that is propped up as good

Literally this.

Based and redpilled

>dude the focus is not on voice of a character so it's bad lmao
Do you really think that is not intentional?

>shit
>garbage
>shit
>terribly
>trash
>terrible
>garbage
Don't you have some sense of embarrassment?

He didn't make a single bad move in his entire career.
Eastwood is one of the few Hollywood directors who still do passion projects he wants to do personally without anyone interfering whatsoever.
He has 100% artistic integrity and works only with absolute creative freedom. The only demands he obeys from the studio is being done before the deadline and under the budget, which he does every single time without exception and why is he so loved by Warner bros.
And every single film of his becomes both a financial and critical success no matter the subject with no additional "directors cuts" because his theatrical cut is always the definitive directors cut.
No matter what you think of the quality of his films, he makes every film out of passion/desire to make that film, not because some studio exec calculated what should be done.

He basically has full creative freedom and untouched artistic integrity at a big budget Hollywood blockbuster

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marvel is trash and so is nolan

Yup. I hated Insterstellar but Dunkirk was kino. Nolan is based af

Do you really think that just because something is intentionally mixed like garbage with an annoying soundtrack in the background when it isn't full on BUMMMPPPPP is good?

It isn't even the sound editing, the normal film editing is shit too, because Nolan has no sense of fluidity. He fails at both aspect of filmmaking

sound aspect - fail
visual aspect - fail

he is technically deficient

No, Marvel has never made anything as good as his DC movies, literally everyone agrees on that. He did the right thing by elevating the genre so the others that came after him get their trash viewed as the trash it is

But he did make bad moves in his careers. He doesn't have absolute creative freedom. He went both over the budget and over the deadlines. He has directed films that failed both critically and financially. He is not a big budget director.

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>He went both over the budget and over the deadlines.
This one I doubt

Do you think every soundtrack has to be subtle and in the background in order to be good? You don't even know the difference between sound mixing and sound editing.

His movies don't even have good soundtracks the tracks are all monotonous or repetitive, not composed with any originality
Fitting for his cookie cutter movies that have telvision tier framing and acting and editing
There's nothing that excites
He's extremely basic

I know the difference between sound editing and mixing

His movies are mixed terribly, you have to constantly turn the volume up and down to hear things or prevent your ear drums from exploding.

The sound editing itself is nothing memorable.

As grades

Directing - D
Visuals/framing - D
Acting - C-
Editing - D

There's really no way you can defend such lazy filmmmaking, he can't even direct a death scene properly he can't do more than one take seemingly, his choregraphy is also fucking shit and amateur.

How and why should i take nolan seriously when he fails at having good framing/visuals/editing and acting/directing plus annoying soundtracks and sound mixing half the time

NOT THE BUMHOLE MURPHHHH!

The worst Nolan movie is still better than the best MCU movie so I don't think so. After the new Avengers leaks we can safely assume this isn't changing in the next months either

>His movies are mixed terribly, you have to constantly turn the volume up and down to hear things or prevent your ear drums from exploding.
Jesus christ how much of a mental midget pleb casual can you be.

Do you think a sound mix of a film has to be compressed and normalized? A whisper and a gun shot should be of the same volume? Do you watch films on the fucking TV integrated speakers?
You just embarrass yourself more with each post you make

I have 250W speakers and exclusively watch films that aren't Nolan because the sound of his films is shitty. Cope more

Yeah the soundtracks are annoying as hell but that comes from using Hans "two weeks of piano lessons" Zimmer. I remember the headache I got from Inception better than the events of the film. Sometimes the blocking and choreography is uninspired, to the point where it feels like a loosely edited documentary. Pacino mentioned once in an interview that there wasn't enough physicality in the interior scenes on Insomnia.

So you have a stereo setup?
Yikes.

>That just proves that he's shit
>The oscars have never meant anything even the technical awards are garbage

Yeah no. They have for most of their history been credible and he has been nominated in their respective guild awards(composed purely of artists fro their field) as well.

Yeah my THX 250 Watt speakers really are terrible thank you Nolan shill!

>They have for most of their history been credible
No they haven't they are meme awards filled with jewry. Nolan is a shit director. Movies that have good elements usually don't win or get nomed for awards the last 25-30 years. And overrated pieces of shit and now actual niggershit and capeshit gets nominated

Thought he was holding a Pentax 6x7 for a second there

His films have been awarded by motion picture sound editors in these categories.

Best Sound Editing: Music in a Feature Film
The dark knight
Inception
Dunkirk

Best Sound Editing: Sound Effects and Foley in a Feature Film
The dark knight
Inception

These are just wins though. Noms are higher. So why is it that actual technicians respect Nolan than certain critics?

>No they haven't they are meme awards filled with jewry. Nolan is a shit director. Movies that have good elements usually don't win or get nomed for awards the last 25-30 years

There have been plenty of movies that did deserve those awards.

That still doesn't explain the guild awards by technicians as well.

Daily reminder the dark knight is just a Dirty Harry ripoff with a dude dressed like a bat

>shit movies get awarded now
>a shit meme director gets nods and wins
The Dark Knight is legitimately terrible. The only film that deserves anything possibly is inception and it's still basic

Insomnia is not better than Infinity War

Who cares what kind of award he got, he's the most overrated director out there.

You are complaining about sound mixing in films while literally not even having a center channel speaker my dude.
Films are mixed for a 7.1 or 5.1 surround sound system, not a stereo channel output.
Even if you get the most expensive stereo speakers and pre-amp possible, you still have an inferior setup because the 5.1 audio source file needs to be downmixed into a stereo channel to be reproduced from your two speakers, and that never sounds good, literally all channels get scrambled in the just the two speakers. This is especially important for dialogue, 99% of dialogue is purely in the center channel, levels get fucked when quickly splitting it out into stereo with the rest.

Atleast invest in a decent center channel speaker then so the voice channel doesn’t get buried that much, which is exactly why all the braindead casuals like you constantly cry "why voices so quiet and splosionz so loud lol"
Also you can stop boasting about Watt power and at the same time complaining about loudness

Dubs of truth

Protip: if you have to keep insisting you're a pop culture cornerstone while your movie is still in the theaters, you're not a pop culture cornerstone. You're a fucking Hula Hoop.

No one used to have to hype Star Wars the way Disney does both it and the MCU. It arose organically on nothing but the weight of its story, its language, and its aesthetic. Disney has introduced nothing to improve upon it or even to rival it. No one will be quoting the MCU in 40 years. But you know what will still be with us?

>The red pill
>The Matrix
>"Mr. Anderson."
>"You've been living in a dreamworld, Neo."
>"YOU. SHALL NOT. PASS."
>"My brother, my Captain, my King."
>The Prestige
>"On view, this venerable vaudevillian veteran ..."
>"People shouldn't be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
>"What's beneath this mask, Mr. Creedy, isn't a man. It's an idea, and ideas are bulletproof."
>"You're not the Devil. You're practice."
>"SWEAR TO ME."
>the image of a single spinning top

All courtesy of Warner Bros.

Don't care about your opinion on the movie faggot or your circular reasoning.

The guild awards by actual sound editors shows that people who actually know their stuff and have respect for their craft appreciate the sound editing in his films.

You on the other hand exposed your brainlet reasonings in this thread quite clearly.

It's 5.1

I don't give one single sack of shit about guild awards of sound editors giving a meme Nolan movie an award, there's better sound editing in movies that don't even get 1/100th the notice

Enjoy your shit circlejerk material

>there's better sound editing in movies that don't even get 1/100th the notice
Maybe because you're an entry level brainlet imbecile who couldn't recognize good sound editing if his life depended on it. Enjoy your butthurt about whatever film you like being not recognized.

good sound editing sounds good
Nolan movies look and sound like shit

Nah his work speaks for itself

And you know jack about good sound editing.

>good sound editing sounds good
You STILL don't understand the difference between sound mixing and sound editing, why spew shit regardless.

Sound mixing is what "sounds good", not sound editing you dumb fuck. And the point of every sound is not to sound pretty and beautiful, a shriek of a Stuka flying over your head dropping bombs should be extremely uncomfortable, not mellow and subtle.
Are you a middle schooler or legitimately retarded

No I know a lot. Revenge of the Sith has great sound editing and mixing that Lucas oversaw, do you think it got nominated? No a shitty Nolan film did

Would have been cool if Nolan directed the sequel trilogy I guess
Not sure if he could have saved MCU though . It's pretty hopeless

Batman Begins wasn't nominated in both Sound mixing and Sound editing. King Kong had better Sound mixing and Sound editing than ROTS.
And I don't even know why you picked ROTS out of them all when Ben Burtt made better sound design in every other Star Wars film, especially TPM with the podracing, which he was nominated for. but again in that year Matrix was still better.

Get fucked nerd, Nolan's movies have shit sound editing and sound mixing
Sounds like a big nasty stinky shit

>get exposed in every way possible, devoid of any and all arguments
>ummm you're a nerd!
Big yikes my dear discordtranny zoomer tourist friend. Have friend brainfarting the last (You) however you want.

>nolan bad
>marlel good
Yikes and cringepozzed

Unlike the Marvel shit that no one will give a fuck about in a few years, Dark Knight will always be remembered.

And given that he can only make movies about sad white guys, it's not like he'd get a chance at SW.

>the discordtranny zoomer tourist friend buzzword memer is a shit eating pleb who defends Nolan when he's a subpar director
Can't make it up

I personally liked how he doesn't mention sound mixing at all untill you explain the difference between sound editing and sound mixing.

He's doing fine. This place is the only place that gets assblasted over Nolan and that's just cause the normies appropriated him.
He doesn't need Marvel and probably wouldn't even wanna be anywhere near the dumpster fire that Star Wars is at the moment.

Considering DC is doing better than Star Wars these days, I don't think so

TDKR and Interstellar are bad.

The funny thing is Ben Burtt has been given 4 Oscars and 5 more or so noms, two of those include star wars.

Still this faggot whines about him not getting recognized for a star wars film a 3rd time despite he fact that there were better films during that year as well.

user he doesn't even know who Ben Burtt is, he thought George Lucas himself recorded the foley, edited and mixed all of the films himself.

Stop projecting faglord

This is partly true. Marvel movies are worse.

No. He's the most popular filmmaker since james cameron showed up in the 80's. He's probably the most popular person in movies, no other actor (not even leo) competes with the success of every Nolan film.

this desu. He released some artsy fartsy blockbuster ww2 movie and that shit made over 500 million dollars.

>in retrospect did he make a bad move associating himself with DC
>Dark Knight makes a billion dollars
>Dark Knight wins Oscars
>now is given hundreds of millions to make movies that wouldn’t receive those budgets had he not made the Dark Knight (Inception, Interstellar, Dunkirk)
>every one of these turns a profit
>Dunkirk also wins Oscars
>net worth of 180 million dollars
>has 4 children

Yeah, he really fucked up because he worked on one corporate capeshit brand over the other

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>who is Joss Whedon