It NEEDED to happen

So what was the point of Snoke ?

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nothing

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To be fair, what else were they supposed to do?
Snoke was the only threatening villain left, Ruin killed him. There was no serious villain in Episode 9 and it's too late to bring a new one to the story (and JJ can't into originality anyway).
The only options they had were to either stick to bitch Kylo or bring back an old villain. Obviously JJ was gonna pick the fan service route.

even though its a cheap cynical move to generate hype I don't care, I just want more Sheev meme material. The movies are already shit so who cares. I'm still not going to pay shekels to see it in theaters, though.

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Fill screen time/red herring

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i can already see the future
>"The Rise of Skywalker" flopped, and here's why that's a good thing"

>I'm still not going to pay shekels to see it in theaters, though.
This is the important part really. My friends and I are going to pirate it and make it into a drinking game.

Mouse damage control

Why did he need to come back exactly?

What makes any of you think he's actually going to be alive? What if it's just a hologram or something in the death star, and they're just using Sheev to bait people into the theater?

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>they're already making excuses

It's another abortion isn't it

Because surely they're not going to try to convince us that Kylo is a main antagonist when Rey beat his ass like a drunk dad in the first movie.

Why do people think he has a physical body? He’s clearly a force ghost

How do you beat an immaterial being that can shoot even-better lightning?

>I was there... on the eve that the strength of cishit white men (predictably) failed... never send a boy to do a womans job.
and then she uses the force to cut him into a billion pieces with her lightsaber at light speed!
Everyone will say how brave it was, then they'll clap!

Yeah, it'll probably be a force ghost or a vision like when Rey first touched Luke's lightsaber.

>Sheev creates Anakin
>Anakin kills Sheev
>Sheev creates Rey
>Rey kills Sheev

Master Class in Pottery

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Is Ian coming back?

Kylo is the only practical villain they have left. Palpatine would seem like a complete ass-pull to even casual viewes
>Assuming Disney isn't going to have Rey kick Kylo's ass again
Old canon was that Sith can't have force ghost, hence all their bullshit about beating death. Disney might change it though.

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He could be a Force ghost manipulating everyone or something, same result even if he's not there in physical form.
It could be bait, like Luke for Ep. 7, but the problem is still there: they don't have a decent villain for this episode.

Yup.

>Luke can't beat the Emperor
>Rey beats the Emperor

I hate the world today.

It did, but not for any thematic reasons. It needed to happen because three films in, Disney, in their monumental ineptitude, failed to establish even a pale shadow of the Emperor's greatness.

wait how did the death star fall into endor after getting sploded?

>Assuming Disney isn't going to have Rey kick Kylo's ass again
What do you mean? That's exactly what I'm assuming. That's why he isn't a practical villain because we've already been given hard evidence that our hero outclasses the villain when the stakes should be the highest.

>THIS is a 10/10 Aryan specimen according to white people

>Old canon was that Sith can't have force ghost
There were Sith ghosts tho but I think they couldn't leave their tomb or something... which could still be the case in the new canon, I remember Darth Bane showed up in the last season of TCW.

Didn't Yoda call him a dark echo in the force rather than a true ghost or somesuch?

Sith can't ghost. Only Jedi.

It sneeded to happen

The laugh used in the trailer was an old recorded one from the prequels. Ian said it himself. He'll probably just be a holocron talking about the threat beyond the galaxy.

i dont want minorities or women on my TV unless they are being degraded

HERE'S HOW SHEEV CAN STILL WIN

We're on the same page then. It's basically impossible for JJ to make any sort of villain that actually holds wait at this point, since we know that Rey is going to defeat whoever ends up being the ultimate threat to the galaxy. I seriously doubt they would drudge up Palpatine just for that purpose.

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Dank

>Bringing him back alive makes all of Luke's efforts in the OT for nothing
>IT NEEDED TO HAPPEN
Fuck these people

Lol, this movie is going to flop. Unless they bring in the Yuuzhan Vong at the end like they did with Darth Maul in Solo, Star Wars is really going to be dead

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>I seriously doubt they would drudge up Palpatine just for that purpose.
This is where our pages differ. I 100% believe they would do that.

I wish this movie would flop, but I can't imagine it. I'm hoping it will underperform though.

Honestly I don't remember, I just know he was there on Korriban (or whatever George chose to call it). There were other Sith ghosts in the old EU, I just think the difference is they might not retain their full consciousness like Jedi force ghosts and can't go wherever they want.

Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Fanservice

Literally only thing nuwars has left. It's a marketing decision, not artistic at all. The manchilds 40 and up will see it because they like both the OT and PT sheev and the boomers 30 and below will watch it because they liked sheev in the PT.

Nostalgic fanservicefags don't want new SW characters or content. Now they actually get hyped up for bringing back past characters. It's like jizzing in your fucking pants everytime ahnuld says, "I'll be back" in another movie.

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I sure hope not. Sheev is the only enjoyable character left in Star Wars

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I think they can sort of "chain" their soul to a particular artifact, but its not the same as being a true Force Ghost. That being said, I'm sure Disney doesn't give a fuck about the lore.

>this movie is going to flop.
It could be 2 hours of Rey farting and retards would lap it up, call it a brave cultural phenomenon, and call you a shitlord for not worshipping it. There's no way it doesn't hit a billion

I'm only going off memory here but I think they need to be bound to a sith relic in order to re-manifest themselves and that doesn't give them much freedom to act directly.

>To be fair, what else were they supposed to do?
Interesting writing? Not a hackneyed revival of a villain that met a definitive end with thematic significance? His cackle could mean all kinds of things, and it might be the case that he doesn't *actually* come back in a literal sense, but the fact the story is nevertheless hinging itself on this intrigue is a bad sign. This entire trilogy is a mess.

Yeah especially since they trashed most of it with the old EU where Sith ghosts used to manipulate and even possess people (like in the Jedi Academy game where the bad guys are trying to resurrect an old Sith lord).
Here all that's left is Darth Bane in TCW, they can do whetever they want with that.

Snoke was a disguise Palpatine was using. Snoke's name is based on the noise Darth Vader's mask makes when he breathes if you listen close enough it sounds like "Snoke".

I unironically think it would be cool if they made Hux a Palpatine clone. Hux was really the mastermind behind the FO the whole time and Snoke was just a fall guy.

>Interesting writing?
It's Abrams, you saw TFA...
It's too late for that now, they should have started that with 7. Now that they've either killed the villains or turned them into comic reliefs, it's over. They can't introduce a new villain now since he'd have to be defeated at the end of the movie.

FUCK YES THEY ARE ALREADY STARTING hope someone is prepared to make a very big collage this time

there is literally no way this movie is going to be anything but "Ass-Pull: The Movie." TFA built almost nothing and destroyed much of what could have been, and TLJ ruthlessly obliterated everything else. Even NOT accounting for TLJ retcons this movie will need serious asspulls to be even mildly entertaining.

They have no story, no stakes, no world-building, and the characters are all shit with no arcs and nothing to look forward to. The only good thing you can say about the characters is that they are recognizable and the actors playing them aren't completely terrible. (And Adam Driver is really good)

So JJ is just going to plunder the nostalgia well one last time with another fast-paced manipulative shit-show like TFA because there's nothing else to do really, even if there was something else he was good at and I don't think there is.

Nah, they turned him into a fool in TLJ and he already has an official backstory in which he's part of a military family or something.

Hux could pass for a young Palpatine, but that would be really fucking stupid.

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Could they have chosen a worse first name for Palpatine

You're probably right, I mostly remember them for some of the games and I know they couldn't move freely and were mostly stuck in their own tombs.

Ian confirmed emperor is dead.

Darth Icky

2/10
you tried

Sheev is a great name

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>threat beyond the galaxy

please don't tell me they retcon him as creating the empire to try and save it from a bigger bad

>that would be really fucking stupid
A good sign it'll happen.

>inb4 Rain's trilogy is the nu-Yuuzhan Vong war with an aged up Ridley

What if they do a twist similar with Magnificeo and The Mule in The Rise of Skywalker with Hux/Palpatine? Jar Jar was based on The Mule but I think somewhere along the line Lucas back out of making him some great evil like The Mule was. I think JJ is going in this direction with Hux.

it HAD to happen

You mean coked up

what are they even going to do with him other then make him lose to rey

>remember darth maul?
to be fair that was lucas who did that retarded shit

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why not just remale the fucking original triology with the original cast and cgi for the dead?

you do realize its Disney telling you what the right-think is, right? theres no effort in journalism because its just forwarding to the masses via "totally not the company advertising its product" the appropriate headlines.

also fucks up Vader's sacrifice, so theres that.

Why bother, at this point? The time to fix the writing was Episode 8, and The Last Jedi did almost everything wrong that could possibly have been done wrong.

While it's true Lucasfilm could have worked really hard to make this a good, well-written movie, even if the final result made no sense at all in relation to episodes 7 and 8. But that won't bring more people to the box office and at this point they obviously don't give a shit about the 10-year and 20-year future of these characters and ideas.

So the obvious thing to do is just more bullshit pandering to whomever is still on the train since that's the only thing they've done that's worked.

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Sounds awful but these movies had a rough start so, at least theyre consistent

>looks up Yuuzhan Vong
>looks like some shit from magic the gathering or Dnd

how the fuck is that at all star wars?

James.

Emperor James Palpatine.

Now that sounds super epic.

What direction would you take the series in next? I'd go full Droid and Clones either war against one another or a civil war or rebellion. Eventually the two would realize they aren't so different from one another and come to a sort of compromise with one another. I don't think you would need to even feature Jedi or Sith in this type of trilogy. Just have a band of humans running from droids or clones who are controlling different factions of the galaxy that want to kill all humans after they rebelled against them.

It was some of the worse shit from the eu. It turned Palpatine from an evil self-serving mastermind into a dindu nuffin visionary just trying to save the galaxy.

But he has a family and everything, he doesn't come from nowhere. His dad used to be a marshal or something and he became a general due to nepotism.
They could retcon that ofc but man, it would hurt seeing Sheev getting thrown around like a ragdoll by budget emperor and big-lipped Snape. Also acting like an idiot wouldn't serve his cause.

>What direction would you take the series in next
Into the garbage if possible

>What direction would you take the series in next?
Slap the Legends label on the Sequels, give it a few years, and take another crack at it. Have Hans and Leia die in the interim period, which sucks, but it's what happens when you waste a potential pop culture occasion with mentally challenged story telling.

>needed to bring back the emperor' (wife's) son
fixed that for you.

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mfw the scene before the final battle is an exposition dump by sheev as to how he survived, what his plans were, who snoke was, who rey's parents really are, etc.

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They should have just made a parody version of the first two and then made an official apology at the end.
they then promise not to make star wars for at least five years while they get their shit together.

Sheev was plaguis all along. Screen cap this

Active measures power tier:

1.Russia
2.America
3.Judenland
4.Disney
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Everybody else

i say just recast and pick up shortly after RotJ
decannonize these three abortions.
either that or go to another period
the old republic cutscenes are kino, why can't they do something creative and new like that?

>Believe in Sheev
my sides

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There's a big difference in a guy being cut in half and having pure hate with magic space wizard powers sustain him while tumbling down a massive shaft vs a guy surviving exploding in power reactor shaft and then the entire station he was on also getting exploded while space in orbit over a planet.

Also, there reason Maul survived is two fold: the main reason being it thematically fit into the Clone Wars setting and lore as well as massive fan demand to bring him back since he was such an iconic face of the Prequel Trilogy and b) because there was always precedent with Jedi Knight with Maw being a Dark Jedi whose rage kept him alive after Qu-Rahn cut him in half in the opening cinematic scene.

>TOR

That is what Game of Thrones guys are working on atm.

Ay yo we killed dis new dude wit du fresh ideas, so we cud bring back dis ol dude, like what we already did.

At this point, if the ending of 9 allows it, they should just drop the new characters and never feature them in a movie again. They should probably give post-ROTJ era a rest for several years too.
Maybe they should adapt KOTOR, chances are they would fuck it up too but if they get competent people for a change, they might pull it off and actually please the fans. After all the harm they did to the franchise and how they split the fandom, they should be sucking fanboys' dicks for the upcoming years if they still want to be able to milk this cow.

Anyone remember how JJ tried to shit on the Prequels with that tiny scene of Hux and Phasma talking about how kidnapping kids to indoctrinate them into Stormtroopers is somehow "superior" to Clone Troopers in TFA?

>TLJ: "Let the past die"
>ROTS: "Here's the past again since we need nostalgia"
Disney are hacks.

>DnD are about to rape the Old Republic era
Not even TOR can rape the Old Republic that hard.

>6372▶
Ani?

Maul surviving never fit and was always lame. But the truth is he never should have died in the first place. I remember me and my bros being super pissed after the TPM premiere.

>It turned Palpatine from an evil self-serving mastermind into a dindu nuffin visionary just trying to save the galaxy.
I mean, he still loved being fucking evil. He just found it necessary to unite the galaxy so his rule wouldn't be challenged. I liked that part of him the EU made him out to be. He isn't a chaotic or necessary evil, but rather an organized one

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>Maul surviving never fit
Again, there was precedent with Maw being cut in half and Maul is > that guy. They already in TCW gave Maul two younger brothers with Savage just being a more animalistic and roided up version of him and according to Filoni people wanted them to bring Maul back directly, and he consulted Lucas and got the okay. Its nowhere as nonsensical as Palpatine being alive in Sequel era 30+ years after ROTJ.

Also:

>last film of the Sequels is Rise of the Skywalkers for the title, which becomes ROTS

These people really have no fucking creativity at all.

Star Wars as a brand and a franchise will treat the sequel trilogy like it doesnt exist once ep.IX is gone and done with.

cool, so characters standing in costume speaking expository dialog to each other?

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this pretty much sums up my feelings about the soulless nuwars

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>ast film of the Sequels is Rise of the Skywalkers for the title, which becomes ROTS
It's The Rise of Skywalker, so TROS. Still is a horrible title, the protags' name shouldn't be in there imo, it sounds weird.

>Interesting writing?
Anything remotely original would be too risky. They paid 4 billion dollars for some easy money. The plan was to soft reboot the saga every 15-20 years or so and watch the money roll in.

The rumor is that Skywalker is being used to replace the term of Jedi for light side using Force-Users now.

Christ I hope so.

Fan demand has shit to do with it. Robot leg Maul was the gayest shit ever and the entire retcon of his dearh was super shoehorned from day one.

Yes he is a cool character. That I was my squad was pissed when GL wasted him after pumping him up before TPM came out. It wasn't Phasma level of wasted because at lest he was badass while he was in the movie but he was stilk wasted. But his revivial will always be one huge deus ex machina

>The plan was to soft reboot the saga every 15-20 years or so and watch the money roll in
>an endlessly repeating galaxy-engulfing conflict

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>Robot leg Maul was the gayest shit ever
Out faggot.

I think he's going to be the closest equivalent to a Star Wars zombie, where he's not quite dead but clinging to life purely through dark side shenanigans. He'll look like shit and because all his effort is being put into keeping himself alive he'll have no means of attack and after they get out of him whatever is required by the plot they may even just leave him there to suffer trapped on Death Star wreckage.

youtube.com/watch?v=mEmAoXGoTGk

>cool, so characters standing in costume speaking expository dialog to each other?

With lots of naked titties

I didn't care for robot leg maul either
its undeniable that when he came back he was a better, deeper, more interesting character but i disagree on a base level with bringing him back after a death like that.

Please Kreia, tell me how to kill the Mouse

>Rise of the Skywalkers for the title, which becomes ROTS
jj really is a jew
>MFW

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Doubt it. If what Ian said is anything to go by, the laughter used in the trailer for IX is prerecorded laughing from Palpatine in the Prequels. It might just be a hologram, or his holocron, or recordings or him at most just being mentioned as being still responsible for everything.

I would sure hope so, maybe they'll reboot everything but the OT and prequels in a few years but I kinda doubt it, they'll most likely just move to another era.
They've already published so many books and comics about the new trilogy, not to mention the cartoon (Star Wars Resistance). If they remove all that from the canon it's gonna be a gigantic mess and if they reboot the whole EU again, fans will be pissed.
Not to mention that with Carrie Fisher dead and Hamill and Ford getting older and older, they'll never be able to make another sequel with the original cast again. They had one shot at it and failed miserably.

Good thing robot legs got replaced with proper proesthetic ones in season 5. Besides Maul actually gets really fleshed out as a character with motivations and development in TCW which he never had in TPM. Maybe it was a DEM for him to be alive to return in the tv series but I don't care, Maul practically brought a new energy and dynamic that TCW needed for seasons 4 and 5. And seeing Sidious duel him and his brother was absolute kino.

APOLOGIZE

>With lots of naked titties
I don't know if you noticed user but we're not allowed to have sexy women in SW any more
kk and her spinster crones don't like sexy twileks and slave girl outfits.

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He will not be brought back from death in any way. It will all be some recording or legacy hologram-droid or something that he left behind to fuck with people

J.J is simply counting on the nistalgia points from him even being referenced at all in the nu canon movies.

Oh boy...
What is the dark side gonna be called now? The Sheev?

...

What else are they going to do? They killed off the most iconic characters aside from Chewbacca, R2D2, C3PO, and the new cast just can't fill in the ranks. There's no other characters to milk nostalgia from
>Boba Fett
Oh shit...

They make up stupid nonsense.

The Senate

>The Sheev
Would be based no lie.

10/10

APOLOGIZE

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DON'T GIVE DISNEY ANY MORE SHIFTY IDEAS! They're shitting up enough on their own.

They won't retcon it. It will simply be a time period that will be ignored.

What do you mean retcon? That was the original plot you dumb YESS QUEEN SLAY Rebel nigger

Glib facsimile

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I'd expect him to redirect me to KOTOR

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Buddy film or noir style crime film on Nar Shaddaa (no jedi)
Mummy style archaeology adventure film (no jedi, but could involve a cursed sith artifact or something)
"Lone samurai defends a village" style Obi-Wan film

All stand alone, no series. Prove they can make a single good film first.

Glib facsimile, Lucas sama.

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If it wasn't in the first six movies then it's not canon. Why do you mongoloid fanboys always assume that other people care about the extended universe?

Forgive me, for I was so shortsighted to see your vision through to the end!

N I C E

These are definitely both valid too, I just think if they were going that way then why bother going to the Death Star wreckage you can have a hologram or recording anywhere, really. I think bringing him back at all is a shit idea but if they're gonna do it I'd prefer it to be substantial.
This is all obviously just hope, as you guys said it's just as likely to be shit.

I'm so sorry George

youtu.be/FuCDf5SrOTk

>No Jedi

Fuck that shit

Disney has five fucking movies with no Jedi

they will steal a plot from the EU, in wich the force ghost of the emperor try to posses a very powerful spaceship made for him.
will be something like that but with a twist

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They can still make prequels about Palpatine (by low-key adapting Plagueis), Maul or Obi-Wan and even Windu or Yoda... or yes, Boba Fett.
Then they can reintroduce popular characters from the old EU and make movies about Thrawn (he's already in Rebels) or the KOTOR era.

WEEEEEEE I PISSED MYSELF, CAN'T WAIT FOR NEW POP! TOYS TO COME OUT

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>something else he's good at
are you implying TFA was good?

The breaking point for me, the absolute actual nadir that the Sequels truly were a cancer was how Luke was treated in TLJ. That's what stopped all hopes and optimism I had for the Sequel Trilogy. I know that JJ Abrams was never a man as a writer or director known for being creative or unique with what he did. I know that Harrison Ford wanted Han to be killed off for years, I know that Fisher was phoning it in 7 and 8 and I never cared for the new cast but what happened to Luke honestly broke me. Even more so because I think its worse for Mark Hamill, who was waiting for this chance to continue the saga one last time in a sequel series and he gets disrespected in the worst way possible, no onscreen reunion with Han one last time, no playful banter with Leia/Fisher, no nothing.

Just humiliation and "subversion". Luke was always my favorite character, my idol and childhood hero and no other fictional character could compare to him. It absolute sucks, guys.

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I miss him

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>Rey and co approach Death Star remains
>Suddenly begins to move and form itself into a giant standing figure
>Final battle is heroes vs. Mecha-Sheev

and thats a good thing

There were no restrictions on Sith force ghosts until TCW retconning

None of you hated TLJ more than me, none of you.

But I liked Solo and thought it was underrated and would totally watch the sequels they had planned for it even though I know they will never happen now.

disney bringing back the emperor is basically them admitting that they were wrong and they should have simply accepted George Lucas's help

based

Nope what said is correct. In fact, pre-TCW Mortis Trilogy (mid season 2), Force Ghosts of Sith were way more impressive then Jedi Force Ghosts. Exar Kun was roasting Luke's Jedi apprentices inside out to make a point of how powerful he was, Palpatine was possessing bodies at will just for the shit of it, Marka Ragnos could travel all over the body thanks to being pure energy and spirit in the books and comics till TCW happened.

glib facsimile

wasn't the whole point of the prequels to confirm that the emperor wasn't evil and that Black and white mentality is stupid?

From Anakin and Sheevs perspective they brought freedom, ended the economic cartels and stopped the Jedi cultist and their repressive order.

Why dont you cry about it pussy

Rey is better than Luke ever was. Deal with it, it's her turn

I want Pierce Brosnan to play as Thrawn but who could play Mara Jade?

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> I used to be in the pictures business
> People used to like me

I feel you bro...I feel you

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THIS
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Putting “Skywalker” in your movie title doesn’t change the fact that Disney raped Luke and ruined his legacy. Especially since Disney had the media shilling TLJ and attacking anyone that criticized Luke’s portrayal in TLJ.
But now Disney expects me to throw my dollars like nothing happened? Fuck em.

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pierce would like your mom for the role

>it was underrated
Fembot really killed the vibes and the Darth Maul cameo steered the movie into absurdity.
Solo's old lore was honestly better, but the movie would have been great too had Phil Lord and Christopher Miller saw the movie through to the end

When?

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too bad luke had to be killed off, him sharing screen time with palpy would have been great. He prob would have said fuck it and join palpy.

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>played by Ryan Gosling
Nice but

>Disney

Disney Star Wars is soulless. This guy is 100000x better than Snoke and he comes from TORtanic.

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Is he Snoke?

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I feel you user, I feel you.

What needs to happen is Rey turns out to be the anti-Chosen One created by the Dark Side to return true balance to the Force and Kylo didn't slaughter the other Padawans, he sent them into hiding while distracting Snoke because he knew he was the only one who could use the Dark Side without being fully corrupted by it due to being Anakin's grandson.

It gets revealed in a spliced scene where Rey seems to be talking to blue Force ghost Anakin and Kylo seems to be talking red Force ghost Sidious, then it turns out Rey was talking to Sheev and Kylo was talking to Anakin.

>Valkorion
>genius, competent, GOAT voice, GOAT outfit, ruled for thousands of years and made both the Jedi and Sith shit themselves
>Snoke
>ugly, deformed, incompetent, was literally hiding in the farthest regions of the galaxy scared of Palpatine when he was still alive and dies to Anakin's inbred grandson who tricks him
No

hes not far from snoke in how terribly hes written. leave it to bioware to make the ultimate evil of swtor Darth Daddy Issues

>Darth Daddy Issues
Arcann?

>I've come to the point where I welcome the spoilers so I can determine if I want to see a star wars movie or not

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>he's not far from snoke
You would only say that if you are retarded.

>arcann
>dexion
>psycho totally not jack from mass effect daughter
>his dad
literally the entire plot of kotfe and kotet is dealing with that families issues. it was like playing mass effect 2s loyalty missions over and over and over again. they were all annoying little shits and i gutted each one trying to speedrun that mess. valkorion was 100000% better when he was just a psycho lovecraftian entity who wanted to vore the galaxy

youre right, hes worse than snoke
>fucks off from the empire
>totally 180s from wanting to eat everything
>hey i have a family and kids now haha
>whoopsie i died but not really haha have fun with me in your head haha
>ooh bioware doesnt know what to do with my character better just leave you now haha bye

>literally the entire plot of kotfe and kotet is dealing with that families issues
>not dealing with the state of the galaxy after carbon freezing for years

But that's the twist, user, Valkorion was a a powerful Force-User who Vitiate possessed and got influenced by and for a time, was altered by his influence. Vitiate was just Darth Sidious 2.0 with shades of Nihilus thrown in, but when you realize he wasn't actually Valkorion but rather possessing the real Valkorion, it really explains how he was at one point "in" love with Senya and had a family.

KotFE/KotET had great potential that was squandered by Bioware but its still miles better than the Sequels.

Cringe post.

SeeNone of you have any idea of the level of psi-ops and social media manipulation Disney is capable of and is operating at. It's some Mossad-KGB level shit. They are fucking GOOD. You will N.E.V.E.R. know whats real and what's fake.

>INB4 MUH CONSPIRACY

That is literally the genius of the whole thing you fuckwit. It all looks like bullshit or not on any given day.

>snoke better than anyone when he's a literal who and one-note villain who dies off in the most pathetic way possible and accomplishes nothing
Try again user

Im so sorry George

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its really not though. its about dealing with arcann in kotfe and then goes full retard with the family dynamic in kotet like youre supposed to somehow care about senya or any of them. you never actually play a part in shaping the galaxy, just hit and run tactics on arcann or the daughter. like fuck just let me go back to the empire i dont care about any of you

George was really great.

I'm not even a SW fag and this hurts

Not that guy but that's not right
>Decided Sith Empire is a failure, decided to bankrupt one Empire to support his other one
>Had kids for the purpose of using them as weapons for his ends
>Constantly seeks new vessels for body surfing, recently interested in your player character
>Arranged it so your player character would unite the Jedi, Sith & even his Empire into a single entity with your character as the leader so he can become the ruler of everything when he bodyjacks you

Why does Rian whine constantly about the negative reaction to TLJ if that was the exact thing he wanted?

nigger in no way shape or form was what you just said was ever intended and is pure headcanon.

also snoke is better because he fucking dies like the incompetent idiot he is. valkorion/vitiate is played up as this incomprehensible evil being who eats ziost in front of you, and then becomes an absolute non character who bioware couldnt write.

>Vitiate was just Darth Sidious 2.0
Admittedly, this is why I found Valkorion preferable. Vitiate was nothing more than a discount Sheev. Unlike Malgus who was intentionally a Vader clone yet had his large differences from Vader, Vitiate had nothing going for him.

>the movie would have been great too had Phil Lord and Christopher Miller saw the movie through to the end

>muh space comedy

No. That is some serious grass is always greener meme shit right there.

Because Jews have no creativity and just buy or procure through trickery the rights to imitate and subvert what other create sort of like Satan.

because there are not enough positive reactions to offset the negative opinions. He wanted to created a love or hate film, basically a half-in-half reception, and ended up making one universally repulsive

Based Sheeve poster

uh huh and how do you go from ziost vitiate "im going to consume the galaxy and drown it in blood" to what valkorion is? its terrible writing and makes the story suffer immensely. you act like vitiates plan was what valkorion had in mind the entire time, when its really just bioware having hack writers who didnt get how to nerf vitiate without some stupid bullshit

This. It was retarded how they handled him after Ziost. Felt like the story took a 180 and not in a good way. It was like Vitiate's motives and character changed completely. Not to mention KOTFE took your character out of the Sith vs. Republic paradigm which was the whole point of the game. Instead you have to play EA's oc donut steel faction.

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So is the Force in Balance or fucking not?

uniroincally this.

>its really not though
>not about allies splitting up and the gang falling apart when you're not there
>not about getting the crew back together

>Obviously JJ was gonna pick the fan service route.
>the fan service route
>fan service route
>fan service

If they understood what "fan service" for Star Wars was, why it was important, and how to do it, they wouldn't have fucked up nuWars so badly in the first place.

Whatever it is they think they're doing with Sheev, it won't be fanservice.

At this point, even every shot in the next movie was Twilek upskirts, it still wouldn't be fanservice. I don't know how that's possible, I just know that's how it would be.

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>side missions are the overarching story
>most classes get one or maybe 2 companions back in the story

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I hate MMO's and never played TOR so I know literally nothing about this guy but he looks cool.

Disney Star Wars isn't canon. Just enjoy Sheev's return (but don't give your money to the Mouse).

I laugh at his little jew hat every time. Lucas was an absolute madman.

Easy. Vitiate either said it as a front or because he was determined not to die, regardless of the consequences to the rest of the galaxy. Vitiate was all about securing immortality, consequences on everyone else be damned. He would consume the galaxy so he could remain alive.

>side missions are the overarching story
>kotor
>bioware

and so instead of securing immortality he went for a siesta on zakuul

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It's pretty much a space comedy trying to be serious. I would've appreciated it had they fully embraced Marvel-humor or a grimdark-lite tragedy

In KOTOR, even some parts of Elder Scrolls, the side missions make up enormous parts of the game. Even that BotW game is 90% sidequest.

Honestly, no, it didn´t. He was gone, the prophecy was fulfilled and everyone´s arc was closed in the return of the jedi. Nothing Disney movies did was "nescesary". Bringing back the Emperor would hurt Vader/Anakin character arc pretty badly. To retcon his last act, the act that redeemed him and that closes the prophecy about the chosen one just to make one of the new characters deliver the final blow is a dick move and an insult. There is no pay off that could justify that.

>side mission to go x and pick up y
>part of the story
bros...

But then why did he go to Zakuul? If he wanted immortality he would have consumed the galaxy like he intended to. Actually was this ever addressed at all? The whole time I just wanted to get back to being Empire's Wrath. I had no investment in any of that other shit.

>What if it's just a hologram or something in the death star, and they're just using Sheev to bait people into the theater?

>actually implying this isnt exacrly what is going to happen.

and what does that have to do with kotfe/kotet. it doesnt matter what other games did, its the fact that the side missions in kotfe itself did not matter to the overarching plot. the only missiosn that do are the story missions, as the characters in those are the only ones who ever effect whats going on

He constantly had fears of being eventually killed. He was always afraid of dying. This was one way of prolonging his existence.

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people like him now more than ever

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How is that prolonging his existence as opposed to consuming the galaxy and achieving actual immortality?

>Besides Maul actually gets really fleshed out as a character with motivations and development in TCW which he never had in TPM
That's what makes it so unnatural, though. He basically gets shoehorned back into the story with a new personality stapled onto him. The only thing that's retained is his character design. I liked his (final, actual) death scene in Rebels, all things considered, but his revival was one of the stupidest things TCW did no matter how spiffy some of the action scenes he was in were.

so after he ate a planet and no one could stop him let alone even touch him he decided to remember he was afraid of death and run off to zakuul? thats just shit dude stop defending trash. hes objectively unstoppable in ziost, and even throws it in your face that you cant do shit to him

>the vong
>bad

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every time disney does something terrible it's hilarious. shut the fuck up and enjoy the free entertainment.

He always had visions & fears of eventually being killed. This was a consistent part of his character. Constantly shitting himself over possibly dying despite all the success he's had making himself hard to kill. The ritual performed on Nathema didn't stop him from fearing the Jedi Knight player will kill him. He honestly gave it his best shot with all the people he possessed and rituals performed. Valkorion was just another one of those.

>Old canon was that Sith can't have force ghost

nigga the EU literally had the ghost of sidious posessing like eleventy-one clones of Sheev AND possessed Han solo's son. get the fuck out of here

why is this posted out of context in every single star wars thread?

no thats a consistent part of valkorions character, not vitiates. they are diametric opposites yet somehow the same person

That was a failed attempt that the players prevented. It was all about stealing life from people and giving it to himself. He also probably realized that the plan wouldn't work. You don't get infinite life from finite people.

>Sheev Status:
Un-berieved

I honestly liked Han more. But at the end of the day, I knew I couldn't be the handsome rouge with the cool car. But I could be the pathetic whining incestuous incel, who was tempted by the worst evil in the universe and still stood on the side of good.

That was part of Vitiate. In the mission Fate of the Jedi, he was fearing the player killing him and tried getting the ritual done ASAP so it wouldn't happen. Too bad for him, he player foiled his plans and eventually killed him.

this. In fact I predict 90 year old George Lucas buying back the rights in 20 years and making a proper episode 7-9 set 5 years after the OT with pure CGI Luke Han and Lea... maybe 85 year old Mark Hamil will even lend a voice to a wayward CGI Alien too

That laugh

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What about youtube.com/watch?v=2rL0d9fUgIA&t=1m13s where he says his motivation is to spend eternity becoming everything & living countless different lives until everything dies & restarts?

Man they really didn't even try with Vitiate's character design. What were they thinking?

They turned Luke into an incel in Disney, in Lucas Star Wars, he banged dozens of chicks.

Yeah but to be fair that was just some guy he possessed a few days before.

You are literally retarded. But then what else can be expected of a Disney cocksucker?

Who the fuck knows!

Heck, you can get angry and use the force with anger and NOT even worry about turning to the darkside.

The rules are out the window.

Even if Anakin fulfilled it, it looks like this ancient prophecy will be violated in 30 years.

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What Star Wars could have been. What Star Wars should have been. It’s sad it’s over but it is

>What Star Wars could have been.

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The emperor was always evil, the PT was to demonstrate the Republic (and by extension Jedi) wasn't this romanticised shining beacon of civilisation and that it was flawed enough to let shit like an Emperor happen

Would honestly have preferred dark side Luke to what they did to him in TLJ

>blue lightstaber
fucking quit it

can i get a rundown on eu luke
>killing an ancient god
>electric judgement
>fling a black hole into a ship

Blue is objectively far more enjoyable to look at then green.

banged his hot redhead assassin, married her

Fought clone Sheev

Fought extragalactic migrants

Shot some lightning at some bugs

Killed a thot who shapeshifted into his old blonde girlfriend

maybe, and they only used green because it contrasted better with the desert background of the sail barge fight, but luke made a green one and that should be his color
Not to mention it looks way better with his two black ensembles in RotJ than blue would, and the fact that he's not wearing black in that picture is also lame

TOP ZOZZLE

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Had a romantic fling with a Force-sensitive assassin who was a proto-Mara Jade sent by by Vader to capture/kill Luke in the old OG Marvel SW comics. Then had another romantic affair with the widow of an Imperial officer in Truce at Bakura, a novel set weeks after the events of the Battle of Endor, the again had a romantic fling with a tribal Force-using woman in Dark Empire, and slowly developed a relationship that was originally on and off with Mara Jade, who was the Emperor's Hand and personal assassin, and another long dead Jedi woman who possessed one of his first Jedi students. He was never an incel in the original universe of Lucas, in fact Lucas was the one who said Jedi could have sex, just that they couldn't have permanent relationships.

>killed a thot who shapeshifted into his old blonde ex-girlfriend
Oh yeah, even that eldritch lovecraftian Force horror of Chaos almost at one point tried to tentacle rape Luke (literally). Shit was hot.

How did that happen without wiping out all life on the forest moon? The impact of such a large chunk would surely be like a several gigaton warhead detonating.

always liked the idea of a nar shaddaa movie

Would like a star wars movie that takes place entirely on a single spaceship and some incident going on. Like some comfy b sci fi movie.

Really loved exploring the inner architecture of ships in the games.

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what if Sheev was just pretending to be retarded?

>believe in Sheev
so good

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>Kills sith in a holocron who called himself god of the darkside
>has lightning power, but its green
>idk about the last one.

They needed to bring him back because there was literally no one left to carry a movie

This is their only at this point. Fisher is dead, Ford is done. They had one shot. It's too late now.

I'm not the only one who read this in Wattoo's voice, right?

It will never go awaaay~~

It can never be UNDONE.

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>you can get angry and use the force with anger and NOT even worry about turning to the darkside
I think that is legitimately what they're going for though - that you don't actually have to be so strict to maintain light sided-ness. It's part of what leads to the downfall of the Jedi because they had no concept of moderation.

He's a big guy

I think the first one is about Abeloth, a vaguely Lovercraftian and ancient shapeshifting godlike creature related to the whole Mortis thing (from TCW).
And the 3rd one is probably about the battle of Dantooine. The Vongs were using some vehicle to control slave soldiers. Like all Vong technology it was biological and was also creating some sort of small black hole, which Luke managed to disrupt with the force resulting in the thing getting sucked in by its own gravitational pull.

youtube.com/watch?v=pLnIwpGFclA

Stuff like anger and lust are part of people. I'm glad it's in EU stuff.

Something was lost in translation because anger and fear were big taboo emotions in the movies that no one offered nuance to.

It's Hollywood. OT remake WILL happen after everyone is dead. Or maybe they'll get Mark to play Old Ben Kenobi.

>They're actually going to use that retarded clone plot from the EU
Jesus fucking Christ

This.

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Well they already remade ANH...
I doubt they'll go further than the soft reboots though, they have to know it can't be made successfully. It just can't. It's impossible to recast, anybody with a tiny bit of common sense will want to stay as far away from it as possible if they still want to have a career and it would just be the final nail in the coffin for the fans. It would bomb harder than Ghostbusters 2016 and there's no recovering from that, it's like rewriting LOTR.

>If I told you, you wouldn't figure it out for yourself and be all the stronger for it

>Disney is going to fucking ruin him.
That's the point. Sheev is one of the most beloved aspects of Star Wars. It's a miracle that Obi-Wan's movie got canned.

Tbh you can't.

They needed to bring him back because they completely bunsed the new trilogy by not planning anything, barely moved the story forward from Episode 6, barely connected it to the shitty prequels, and now in a last-ditch effort to correct course they're bringing in Sheev who somehow outlived Carrie Fisher to cash in on the le epic nostalgia.

I'm still excited to see the movie and Sheev though despite the sequels not being everything they coulda been

>somehow outlived Carrie Fisher

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leia literally looked fine. if you didn't know she was cgi you probably woulndn't be able to tell. tarkin on the other hand looked terrible and videogamey in every scene.

>if you didn't know she was cgi you probably woulndn't be able to tell
Please.
youtube.com/watch?v=6Yj31YCa3Xw

So what are you getting at? That normies are gonna see the film? Because Disney could have done fucking anything and they would have gone see it. Or are you implying that the psi-op is to make people from here see it? Because a lot of them are reddit faggots that will see it anyway even without advertising and I don't see how the rest could be swayed. I haven't seen a single nu-wars movie in theaters so their tactics must be pretty shit if they can't even work on me

need to force feed on some space WARS SEEED

>TLJ: all about abandoning the past and going in your own direction.
>Skywalker ascends: the past is literally we have to save this dumpster fire of a trilogy, so by God we're going to milk it for all it's worth.

Based

It's a fake article you dumbshits

>b-b-but it was just sleep apnea that killed her!

Abandoning the past is fine but you don't have to shit on it on your way out

reddit

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>No "Directed by Rian Johnson" at the end
You had one job

You guys actually watch these movies? Why?

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they aren't completely terrible but could be way better and not retarded like Rouge One was...god it was awful

omg

t. fucking pleb
Rian Johnson made kino and you're a fucking brainless soulless NPC
and this is what you get JJs hackening 2.0 that everyone loves but it's actually trash

where is that revelation, i recently finished the vong books and didn't find any mention of palpatine

>Rian Johnson made kino
Good one.

Bane?

So you're siding with retards who like marvel movies and whom play video games
Geeks and gamers hated the last jedi!!!

You don't even know quality

Nice.

Newfag