Was he a hero or a villain?

Was he a hero or a villain?

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He's the hero of the villain

obviously the villian. how could he possibly be the hero dude?

No hes actually best character immortan Joe was the good guy in this movie - he literally wanted to build a society in postapocalyptyc world, literally trying build something from nothing but Strong Wymyn TM happily saved the day thanks to womn magic and emotions. pathetic

Is that trump

he wasn't a hero
he wasn't a villain either
he was just a man trying to piece society back together
as opposed to the brainwashed selfish woman-childs with their bullshit communist viewpoints

Then they all starved to death 2 years later after the stronkers squandered all the resources just like they did in the place where they came from.

In a very lynchian manner, one could say that he was both the hero and the villain, although the conflict was more internal than external, despite the distracting and childish action sequences.

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>he wasn't a hero
>he wasn't a villain either
>he was just a man trying to piece society back together
>as opposed to the brainwashed selfish woman-childs with their bullshit communist viewpoints
Sounds like a hero to me. Especially against of that feminist bullshit in the movie

That's why Max went away from that place in the end, he knew what was coming.

i dont understand - how the hell this movie is not feminazi propaganda? literally muh stong wymyn the movie savin the day. oh yeah lets not forget about sand hags that totally rule and kick mysigonist manhood ass and this is why its a good thing. Like cmon

How did he eat?

yeah but imagine if you were one of those diseased poor fucks that groveled at his castle for water, wouldn't you want him to actually share his veggies and milk and water???

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I understand you are from r/incels but at least try to avoid the spacing.
Joe is the villain, but not for the greater scope of his acts, brutal because the situation required it. It's for the suffocation of freedom and control in the minute things of his subordinate. The water scene shows he does not want to preserve, but oppress and control.
People have a point in saying that he still comes out as more efficient than the opposite with the wimminz, that Miller wisely has shown in a non-sue way.

take it how you please, I just see a man trying his best to manage a society like a gardener
shut up darkie

Taxes

The movie made no judgements, only the characters did.

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>Was he a hero or a villain?

A villain.

He sacked the Citadel and killed the scientists and engineers who had built the place and who might have been able to reintroduce civilization, then used it for his own aggrandizement and created a retardedly violent society that was doomed to fail, as he was incapable of producing an effective successor.

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So why did Max leave at the end? Becayse he knew what would happen?

A hero

They hooked up the mothers milk nipple tubes directly into his mask.

This is one of the reasons I think is the best MM.
The camera is indifferent as the wastelands are.

The incels ITT are just ok with the fact that Joe BTFOs le ebil roasties. The rest is irrelevant, they could eat dirt 24/7.

and where is this from? some tumblrite garbage written in the wake of the film's release?

Check your privilege, gringo. English is not my first language.

>some made up shit that are not in the film
Opinion discarded

This has nothing to do with your spacing, compadre.

>and where is this from? some tumblrite garbage written in the wake of the film's release?
George Miller approved the backstory and wrote that the Citadel is still doing good 100 years after Max. They didn't run out of water, even if you really really want your headcanon to be true.

Yes

Amazing how easy is to trigger manbabies here.

It was implied that he built his society solely on raiding - so he was a villain.
The only reason people unironically pose this question is because fury road had no heros.

user's headcanon > published statements from the (((creator)))

>a communist shithole with free abortions, women feminists and other crazy dykes in power, squandering the resources, no army to defend or expand, no trade routes with other cities
>lasting more than a year
Pick one and only one marxist fag

Imagine being this guy.

Cool it with the racism. Who are you to question my cultural analysis of a film? This is why decolonization needs to take place.

>present a consistent argument
>imagine straw man
Nice counter argument faggot

Hero. He had to ration necessities because otherwise people will deplete them instantly

>i dont understand - how the hell this movie is not feminazi propaganda?
Because without Max or Nux's help, they would have been screwed. Without Max giving them the idea to return to The Citadel, they would have died in The Salt.

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>>present a consistent argument
In your deranged mind is a consistent one. Furiosa is not a dyke or crazy, no resource squandering is implied by her, only by the vulva-girls that died off like the old male guard.
No army loss is implied either, there are more boys and the people outside can be treated better and recruited.
You consider your head canon as a fact, because you are mentally ill and see le ebil marxists everywhere.
Get a fucking grip, if you are 16 yo. If you are older, just kill yourself.

I am questioning your intelligence and sanity.

Your whole "argument" is drivel that I won't bother with.
I will concentrate on one subject only.
>thinking that I consider furiosa an evil crazy feminist
Furiosa is a trafic hero, like Max and Joe.
They were dragged into this conflict.
Furiosa is
>the only woman who cares about max
>respects max as a warrior and as a clever strategist
>relies upon max
>saves and get saved from max
At the last shot you see the regret in Furiosa's eyes.
She knows that though her actions she replaced Joe with the crazy old dykes who destroyed green valley and the stupid feminist muhbodymuhrulesfreeabortion breeders.
Furiosa is the first person that feminist dykes are going to execute for the crime of wrongthink and showing sympathy towards a man.

>Your whole "argument" is drivel
AKA "I cannot address your argument".

why didnt he just let one of his war boys fuck his waifus

>At the last shot you see the regret in Furiosa's eyes.
literally autism

More racism from the triggered white male here. Stop digging.

Your "argument" was built on the false premise that I consider Furiosa a feminist.
I asserted with facts and logic that Furiosa is not a feminist and therefore defused your argument which was built on a false assertion.
I won the argument.

>not understanding basic emotions
>having to spell out in fanfic how to feel
High estrogen concentration, probably from consumption of large quantities processed gmo söy.

He was neither, he was the strong leader that was necessary to keep a society going.

The women never realized this, and they lived in a fantasy world where wealth can be spread forever without ever running thin.
in a way the entire movie is anti feminist, because once the women gained their freedom they decided that they could do it better than the men.

however to get to that point they had to be as "evil" as the men, and then when they do finally overcome the odds they throw it all away by deciding open up the gates to this SMALL working paradise, letting in more people than it could possibly ever sustain.

What the movie doesn't show is how it truly ended,
with all the white boys being killed and the women raped countless times till they died.
then these "innocent" "persecuted" people from the ground ate and used up everything they could find before going back down and sitting in the same exact fucking spot as the beginning of the movie.

Bet you'll look different at the Dag next time.

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>Your "argument" was built on the false premise that I consider Furiosa a feminist.
See >women feminists and other crazy dykes in power
Unless you are implying she is not in charge now.

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Please point me out the moment in which she expresses regrets. In case she is sad max is leaving, but the actress is conveying more.
And I suggest you to do not project on other your own insecurities on your own masculinity. It just makes look more pathetic.

What is this supposed to be? a parody? A false flag? It's so reddit I cannot tell.

*It just makes you look.

user's headcanon > published statements from the (((creator)))

Just stop posting, white male. Step away from the computer and reflect on how to control your racism before you end up committing a hate crime out there.

An opportunist.

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>in a way the entire movie is anti feminist, because once the women gained their freedom they decided that they could do it better than the men.
This.

idk man, the way those people were living was ghastly. Even if society collapsed afterward it's better than living under the boot of some rich guy who barely gives you enough food and water to stay alive

>Unless you are implying she is not in charge now.
See Like I told, judging from the history of marxism and communism, Furiosa is the first that will be executed by the new communist feminist regime.
I give her a week at most and then her memory will be completely wiped like communists and feminists do.

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user, I understand what you are trying to do but it does not work. Is not funny, poignant or whatnot. I appreciate the attempt but you are simply not clever enough for this kind of humor.
Sorry.

>more headcanon
Jesus Christ you are an assault to logic

Well Max is clearly shown wondering about what's gonna happen next.
Then the women start inviting EVERYBODY onto the citadel, and you can see that Furiosa realizes that this isn't any better.
before only a few had it good, now everybody wont have anything because there wont be enough to go around.
then Max walks away, showing he doesn't wanna be a part of the mess that's about to unfold.
And Furiosa realizes that this must have happened to "the green place"

The entire movie is anti female, because sharing everything results in everybody not having enough to survive.

>he
They never state their gender. How do you know what gender they are?

I am gonna step away from this thread before you hack me or something, I don't want to end up on your list for when you lose your shit.

I ask again - point the exact minute in which Theron is conveying what you are implying. You have a video with a time.
Post it now.

>le youtube gender assumption meme
okay, now this is going on r/basedandredpilled

Much more likely to die of thirst within the month because they dumped their entire water supply onto the floor of a fucking desert.

>And Furiosa realizes that this must have happened to "the green place"
This 100%
Unfortunately the söy mongrels in this thread are incapable of understanding human emotion or perform even the most basic logic derivation

>hero
He has a harem of sex slaves and a psycho mutant gang, that's not super heroic behavior. But he is cool as fuck.

I suppose your mom always tells you that yes, you are a clever young man dear, so funny

>historical examples are headcanon
How is sÓy treating you?

I don;t think samefagging it's going to work buddy.
Post the exact moment, come on.

>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
Literally mental illness

>all these mad incels itt
lol

Based retard. The fact that Stalin indeed un-personed people does not mean this is what is going to happen to furiosa. Nothing in the story suggests this.
You are unable to tell apart you own head-canon from what you see in the movie.
You are entertaining.

The time user. Show me what Theron is showing at that specific moment. You have the video above.

>implying they're even communist
They don't show any economic activity at all besides trading with other settlements and that one guy that manufactures guns. They really just are concerned with not dying

Reminder that the blond pregnant bitch was about to give birth to the first healthy human child and jump start a new beginning for humanity.
But she aborted it on purpose because muh body muh rules, feminism, the evil patriarchy and free abortions.
She is the most evil person in the entire movie and the instigator of this destructive and tragic conflict.
The feminist biker dykes are the vultures circling the corpse of society.

>He has a harem of sex slaves

To get an healthy heir, it was never about the sex. it was ALWAYS about having an heir that wouldn't rape and eat everybody after he died.
Sucked for the women, but he was thinking of the future. (and its not like the men had such a good life either)

He was a fucking mutant.

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>tfw living in a time so insane that this might well be a completely forthright post

>he was the strong leader that was necessary to keep a society going.

The Citadel had a functioning society, in fact one FAR better then what Immortan Joe made it after he killed all the smart and normal people and much better then what Furiosa would have eventually turned it into, when she turned it into a refugee center.

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Angharad was indeed the most evil woman of the group, she's the kind of woman we see daily in real life.
the kind brought up in luxury and treated like a princess, allowed to do whatever she wanted as long as she did her one job.

Which.. she of course refuses, because.. women logic.

Which is wonderfully shown when she is handed the gun and can't load it.
All this bullshit of how the world should be run, and all those evil men! and she still needs others to fight for her.

where can i read about that?

>Reminder that the blond pregnant bitch was about to give birth to the first healthy human child

No, the baby may have been physically normal but was almost guaranteed to be a retard, as Immirtan Joe's genetics had been fucked by radiation.

Is this you?

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No, I'm not as handsome and I don't have a car.

>Reminder that the blond pregnant bitch was about to give birth to the first healthy human child and jump start a new beginning for humanity.
Yes user, the baby would have been perfect in every way. That wasn't just something the Organic Mechanic said to keep his job.

>twisting the facts of the movie, the only indisputable facts that exist, to make them fit the narrative
Leftists never cease to amaze me with their hypocrisy and their immorality.

What's funny is that its almost like the real world.

>Barbaric
>Suddenly Romans
>Shit's good for a while
>Romans leave cuz barbarians
>Dark ages and the black plague
>Enlightenment
>hey lets invite a billion refugees!

If he wanted an heir that wouldn't rape and eat everyone why did he keep around so many violent insane retards that seem pretty into raping and possibly eating people? Seems like murdering and stealing was the main source of employment in the Citadel.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

>where can i read about that?
The Fury Road comic books, which are considered canon by George Miller.

Joe's issue starts off with the fall of civilization and shows how he took control of the Citadel from the innawoods crew that claimed it before him.

Then there's a two-issue story of Max getting his Interceptor back.

Then a single issue of Furiousa that starts and endswith a future historian 100 years after Fury Road showing how their society is slowly getting better and how they haven't run out of water or gone extinct or anything.

> where can i read about that?

There’s a post-movie comic that explains how Immortan Joe rose to power by sacking the Citidel, which had been set-up by scientists and engineers but the eventual failure of Furiosa (despite the pie-in-the-sky claims in the comic otherwise) is just common sense.

There simply aren’t enough resources to go around.

The vast majority of the people surrounding the Citadel are irradiated savages who can provide zero benefits and their numbers are so great that they’ll strip the Citadel of anything of value, so either Furiosa implemented similar policies as those of Immirtan Joe and the earlier scientists and engineers, or it all quickly turns to anarchy and destruction.

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Yea Forumsncels btfo then

>conveniently ignoring there are gangs of robbers and looters
>pretending you don't need army
>pretending you don't need guns and gas/energy and therefore trade routes and therefore an army to protect said traderoutes to be able to pump the water, grow plants and food and protect the goods from scavengers
Leftism and liberalism is a disease upon humanity

>Leftists never cease to amaze me with their hypocrisy and their immorality.

In the first place, I'm not a Leftist an secondly, there is no evidence the baby would have been normal while there is all kinda evidence that ALL of Immortan Joe's prior offspring were either retarded, deformed or both.

See Comics are literal propaganda

A necessary evil, the common folk clearly lacked a proper leader before he appeared (or at least from what is shown to us in the movie) so his death would lead to in-fighting and destruction of a decently organized society. You could say Furiosa could replace him as a leader with the grannies, but the scene where she just throws liters upon liters of rare resource away just to "look cool" or "make a point" clearly shows she has no knowledge on how to actually manage a society. Soon the ignorant peasants who dont understand conserving for the future will demand more water every day, leading to rebellions and which can end with the death of her new ruling party and eventual downfall of the conglomerate of city states from the movie, or she buckles up and just becomes another Joe by killing all opposition and threatening any other diverging opinions with brute force.

He was a dickhead, but he kept things organized and a little civil, and people really underrate order during times of lawless violence without a nice Kenshiro to save your sorry ass.

None of the protagonists stated that army and defenses are not needed. Just that the strict hierarchy enforced by Joe was unfair.
See You are the perfect lapdog.

>gets btfo
>it's propaganda reee!!
Kek

>there is no evidence the baby would have been normal
It's literally said in the movie.
It's fact.

The post I told you to read btfo the comics

Joe's boys ARE the robbers and looters though. He's the guy they have to protect the trade routes from.

The antagonist not the villain. The comic tie in, implies Furiosa actions didn't changed anything and eventually she's going to suffer an insurrection.

>whole movie has nothing stated as anything different than subjective, see
>"it's a fact"
lmao

>but what if she run out of water haha dumb womens XD
you children are insufferable, its a fucking aquifer, enough water to keep a city functional, joe rations it as a power play

>Just that the strict hierarchy enforced by Joe was unfair.
If they don't like the "evil undemocratic dictatorship" they can go live in the desert.
Oops, no food and water there.
Oh, they could go to the green valley.
Oops, feminists dykes destroyed the green valley after killing men and denying them sex.

The movie is literally a warning against the dangers of feminism and feminist lies and propaganda.

b-but what about le ebil wimminz, my mom never loved me and Stacy said I am disgusting!

Shut the fuck up incel.
The comics that are canon said that society got better. Your stupid headcanon doesn't change that.

No, the movie is a warning about people of any extremism and with insane views, being them Joe, the wasteland dykes, or lapdogs like you.

What level of inceldom is taking Cool Car Chases : The Movie as an anti-thot parable

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You are extremely dishonest since you ignore the facts the movie present.
Or extremely brainwashed.
Either way you are completely lost.

>trade routes

Immortan Joe had no interest in trade, he was nothing more than a bandit king robbing and killing anybody who crossed his part.

Ironic post. See

>Yea Forumsncels btfo then

user's headcanon > published statements from the (((creator)))

>hur hur I lack the mental capacity to interpret the symbolism behind art
>hur hur I only read and watch approved reviewers articles and fanfic to tell me what the correct opinions are
>until then the film is zoom zoom and pew pew haha quip
Sad

>>there is no evidence the baby would have been normal
>It's literally said in the movie.

There is no way some guy who is barely has the skills of paramedic, can claim at a glance that a newborn isn't retarded.

Again; ALL of Joe's prior kids were cripples or retards because of his damaged genes, he'd been enslaving and breeding with healthy women for years with nothing to show for it, so the odds are overwhelming that the newborn baby was also retarded.

This point is driven home the examples of his big strong physically healthy son, who is a compete retard and his physically deformed son who apparently has no mental problems.

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>implying the feminist dykes with open borders won't squander the water and food supplies and not dissolve the army and therefore have no means to protect against looter gangs and invasions
See

Gay

If the movie showed all the villains taking wasteful baths, looking clean and drinking water constantly you might have a point, but in no way this is show in the movie, they all look fucking dry and dirty, not even Immortan Joe looks clean or hydrated, they all look like rough as fuck, so why is that? If there is plentyful water, why not have the villain correspond to that? The answer is either
>the character design fucked up to imply that the water is plentiful
>there is not a lot of water in the first place.
AND, even if there was plenty of water, why waste it all on that stupid last scene? Im sorry but even if you had a lake worth of water, letting galons upon galons flow it all is wasteful, how am i to trust the judgement of someone who does that? Its either a shit scene, the kind of "lol it looks cool who cares about logic?" or it implies exactly what has been said here, that they will fucking ruin the city.

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What does the flamethrower guitar solo represent

My God
>the experienced paramedic is not competent because muh narrative
>the breeding program of joe which offered all the medical help and comfort to the healthiest women is not real because muh agenda
You are literally throwing half the movie to support a false narrative and twist the facts

>Again; ALL of Joe's prior kids were cripples or retards because of his damaged genes, he'd been enslaving and breeding with healthy women for years with nothing to show for it, so the odds are overwhelming that the newborn baby was also retarded.
In fact, this completely blows away the lapdogs that think Joe was doing a necessary evil. A necessary evil maybe would look close enough to what Joe was doing, but many, many things were to be improved and Joe did not improve them for simple egotistical reason.

Exactly.
Max was smart to BTFO of there because he knows the strong women gonna waste that water in weeks and destroy that commuity in months

tubes

The fact that you have boogeymen does not mean that is what it's going to happen in the story. AGAIN, your headcanon is not an argument.

>But she aborted it on purpose because muh body muh rules, feminism, the evil patriarchy and free abortions.
she didn't abort the baby, she was attempting to abort the baby but furiosa told her to stop and the baby died because she got run over by a truck

The last scene shows that a more equal distribution will happen. It's just that. You are over-thinking it.

Every army since the dawn of Man needs marches and tunes to get pumped and win the war.
Are you some kind of faggot for not realising this simple fact?

it's all fiction anyway

>What does the flamethrower guitar solo represent
The Doof is wearing the desiccated face of his own mother, so probably something about incels?

I'm not good at symbolism; I just liked it for the pretty girls and the cool cars.

I'm just saying it's an action movie and the main point is car chases and cool shit, not whatever autism 'muh wimmen' shit retards in this thread think it is.

To compliment the war drums, during the first gulf war some of the army's attack helicopters would play SLAYER music to frighten the enemy.

That's pretty much what the guitar player is, the head of the music department in charge of psychological warfare.

>she was attempting to abort the baby but furiosa told her to stop and the baby died because she got run over by a truck
You are literally saying what I am saying.
Also, a responsible pregnant mother protects her unborn child instead of hanging from a truck.
Where "hanging from a truck" you can put having sex with niggers, drug abuse, alcohol, smoking, etc.
But feminism and muh body muh rules women liberation and fuck the kid.
This symbolism completely flies over your head.

Also, that scene is another proof that Furiosa was not a feminist and good and pure at heart.

Would you support that hierarchy even if you were near the bottom? Come on now

I was just shitting on the faggot sperging about symbolism

Reread what I posted above and why i called specific posters lapdogs.

To reiterate the claims of your post:

>Furiosa is not a feminist
>Feminists are good and pure at heart

Now all that's left is for you to explain why you didn't enjoy Mad Max: Fury Road.

That's not symbolism you're just projecting your rabid dislike of females

In the end of the day the outcome to me is clear, that living under a tyrant isn't fun, but seeing hippies burn through resources in a month and you end up dying isn't fun either.

In the end you're either kinda fucked or totally fucked.

But fucked you are.

Your stupid argument about the fire guitar was completely BTFO you faggot
Eat shit

>reading comprehension: 0
Lay off the söy
To reiterate
>Furiosa is not a feminist
>Furiosa was good and pure at heart
>Feminists are shit and evil
>Feminists are wrecking the society at the end of the film
>Max knows that shit won't end well and leaves
>Furiosa regrets having inadvertently helped a feminist coup, understanding how society is doomed
I enjoyed the movie a lot, for the cinematography, the action, the music.
Thematically I interpret it, and I'm correct about this, as an anti feminist movie

One could see MM:FR as a commentary on humanity and the inevitable failure of any strategy adopted, because of our flawed nature. Fatalistic perhaps, but underplayed because every character is a stubborn survivor anyway.

>You are over-thinking it.
Its over thinking when you start thinking for way too long a small scene. Its not over thinking when the FIRST thing that came to my mind when i watched it was
>what the fuck you are doing throwing all of this water in the fucking desert?! STOP! Close the valve!
So if the implication of the scene is that the distribution will be more equal than its exactly what i said a "cool scene" with no regards for fucking narrative and logic, which worsens the black and white mentality of the movie. The Joefags would have VERY little to stand on if it wasnt for that stupid scene, which could be fixed easily by a simple Furiosa speech with a final
>MORE WATER FOR EVERYONE!
and a round of cheers with a small scene of people getting some bucket of waters in an orderly fashion. Its a shit scene that ends the movie in a bad note for anyone who thinks for more than 5 seconds about resources in a post apocalyptic world.

Not even mentioning that does NOT answer my problem of shitty directing of people knowing the water WAS plentiful during his rule, nothing indicates that. If they tried to paint Joe as some overtly greedy dictator then they did a piss poor job at it, no scene showing him wasting water, no dialogue saying how he stole the previously established cities, leaving up to the viewer to guess if he build it or not, no scene of their men bullying the population.

You haven't refuted a single argument.
Mediocre.

Imagine being this guy

> the experienced paramedic is not competent because muh narrative

Even an experience doctor with a degree from Harvard in a fully equipped hospital, can't tell if a literally new born baby doesn't have any mental defects.

> all the medical help and comfort to the healthiest women

The problem wasn't with the women Joe was fucking, it was HIS irrevocably damaged genetics.

>when an argument doesn't fit the narrative and I can't defuse it I will use a straw man fallacy or a personal attack because that's what the journalists I read do
Typical and expected

I HAD A BABY BROTHER!!

>Even an experience doctor with a degree from Harvard in a fully equipped hospital, can't tell if a literally new born baby doesn't have any mental defects.

Um, sweaty... in my headcanon the Organic Mechanic is actually a psychic neurosurgeon and the Citadel immediately collapsed as soon as the screen faded to black.

But user, you don't get it.
Under communism and feminism the distribution IS equal.
NO FOOD NO WATER FOR EVERYBODY
DEATH GUARANTEED
TAKE THAT PATRIARCHY

>Joe did not improve them for simple egotistical reason.

Indeed and while this will send Yea Forums into paroxysms of indignation, if Immortan Joe actually wanted to recreate a stable society, he would have been forcing the healthy women in his harem to breed with ONLY healthy men, (like Mad Max) then raising the kids as his own to take over the administration of the Citadel from him.

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>and the inevitable failure of any strategy adopted

Exactly, which is why for most of the time we tend to dwell in between, giving a bit and taking a bit.
Joe is like Stalin, pressing people and forcing them to behave under punishment of death.
The women are like the hippies of old, who think you can divide a tiny piece of food a million times and then suddenly people won't be evil anymore.

>pressing people

*oppressing

Just imagine being this fucking guy

Yep. He started """well""" but his ego took over.

>implying the society didn't collapse immediately
>implying you can survive without water

>implying the society didn't collapse immediately
George Miller, the creator of the Mad Max franchise, agrees that the society didn't collapse for at least a hundred years after that.

>implying you can survive without water
George Miller, the creator of the Mad Max franchise, agrees that the aquifer didn't run out for at least a hundred years after that.

But remember, user's headcanon > published statements from the (((creator)))

Thank you for admitting defeat

Just, for a moment, a single moment, imagine being this guy.

Why are you using brackets around the creator?
I loved the movie and I understood the hidden message.
It's glorious how it's so subtle that you don't realise what it is.
One of the greatest films of the last decade or more.
Visually, acoustically and thematically.

>Why are you using brackets around the creator?
Please lurk moar before posting.

does it really matter though since all the ugly shitheads on the grounds were basically refugees only staying alive because of the efforts of someone else. They were parasites, and suffered what they must.

>comfy max thread full of redditors posting LE like they are still on plebbit
Fuck off your shitty meme is not welcome here.
Fury road is the most fun action movie in decades and the most fun badass vehicles movie ever.

You can't be that dense, but if you are implying this you are wrong, just keep twisting facts and circumstances what I say to fit your false narrative, we don't want to force you realise that there are different opinions and interpretation than the approved ones, do we?

Worse: a white male

>thread about character analysis
>racebaiters and incels come in and make it about identity politics

literally just as bad as sjw's, you can only see the world through this retarded lense stemming from insecurity (the world is conspiring against muh white purity, you're being exterminated by the jewish media for reasons??). youre just the other side of the same coin extreme leftists are on (who the world is a conspiracy against minorities)

just kill yourself already, Review Screw

A villain for the pleb brainlets and redditors
A tragic hero for the patrician intellectuals of Yea Forums and 4channel

Let's hear some character analysis then?
Was he a hero or a villain?
Or are you a radical centrist?

> > implying the society didn't collapse immediately
> George Miller, the creator of the Mad Max franchise, agrees that the society didn't collapse for at least a hundred years after that.

It doesn’t matter what George Miller says, the facts as shown in the movie and within setting of the series are that there just ain’t enough resources to go around and opening up the Citadel to all those thousands of irritated savages swarming around it, would have inevitably lead to a quick collapse.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

> > implying you can survive without water
> George Miller, the creator of the Mad Max franchise, agrees that the aquifer didn't run out for at least a hundred years after that.

Even if there was enough water, (and I believe there was) there wasn’t anywhere near enough food production capacity to support thousands of irritated savages, who were mostly aggressive retards anyways and would contribute virtually nothing in exchange for the resources they’d get and the moment rationing was implemented, (and this would have been almost immediately) they’d have simply looted the Citadel for anything of value and wandered off into the desert to die.

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Immortan Joe is depicted as a homosexual who reluctantly mates with his wives simply in order to provide an heir but whose real interests lie in his Warboys in the comic books and those are officially canon.

>Or are you a radical centrist?
Not him but
> you can only see the world through this retarded lense stemming from insecurity
I mean your lack of insight is telling

>irritated savages

>killed the scientists and engineers
Why lie? I read those comics, the people there weren't scientists and engineers, they were bandits too doing bandit shit, keeping everything to themselves, not wanting to establish any alliances or trade.

Then it would be easy to defuse my arguments.
Because since I'm insecure as you implied surely my argument isn't strong, right?
Present a convincing counter argument then.
Or keep up with the personal attacks, they are entertaining and reveal your intellectual bankruptcy.

Opps, fucking spellcheck, that should have been "irradiated".

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>harem girls basically living like queens, in the only clean area in the whole world with fresh water and fresh food, clean clothes and in safety, a literal paradise
>a whole army protects them
>the rest of the world is a hellscape full of irradiated cannibals, mutants and cannibal mutants
>only thing they have to do is to have some old guy smush his groinmeat against them a few times per week
>"is this really the best I can get?"

This is what happens when you read Huffpo, kids

Thank you for exposing their lies.
Leftists have no shame indeed or are so brainwashed they live in a fantasy world.

user, I keep with personal attacks because you are insane. There is not much to do other than laugh at you and at your interpretations that go even against clear statements made by the authors.
You are pathetic, but also spiteful. So you can only be mocked and not pitied.

Source for your statement about George?

>the people there weren't scientists and engineers, they were bandits too doing bandit shit

They built the Citadel, so clearly they knew what they were doing and of course they didn't want to share, as there wasn't enough to go around and most people of the wastelands were savages anyways.

>>harem girls basically living like queens
retard alert

Wow, what a great argument, surely you showed to me and everyone what an enlightened intellectual you are, good job!
Faggot

gilded cage, fren. You think Queen Elizabeth can just take a stroll down the street to a chippy?

They didn't build shit. Nothing says that. How trigger happy they were and dismissive of Joe shows they were just bandits. Comics didn't have a single scientist or engineer there, every one of those fucks had a gun, displayed bodies kf people killed and had to get BTFO by Joe and Bullet Farmer

>savage
Joe had a fucking caravan, lots of weapons, men, women, prostitutes and wanted to discuss shit. They fired at him

>They didn't build shit.

Of course they did, the Citadel didn't just magically appear.

> They fired at him

Because they didn't have enough to go around and thus there was nothing to discuss.

He is the antagonist but in todays world a villain

The posts above show try to bring actual arguments on the table is pointless, because you ignore every element for your head-canon.

>Citadel didn't just magically appear.
Which they likely took it from someone else or it was something from even before the war that they found seeing as Joe also found a place to mine shit to make bullets and another place to get oil not too far away. No scientist and engineer is gonna shoot anyone that comes to you or hang dead bodies of the people who tried to get into their place. That's bandit shit

Not about nit enough, they're bandits so they declare it theirs

A different guy, it was a short search.
youtube.com/watch?v=rA0jO_FuNag

At 2:55 - 3:00
The closeup at Max face. the way he looks at Furiosa. For me he clearly connects the free flow of water with the "green place"

But Furiosa never shows anything like that. If anything she is emotionless, becomes slightly lost and worried when she realizes that Max had fucked off, and only when they see each other she shows placid resignation and acceptance.
Max nods, that's "good luck" or "stay safe", and she responds with simple nod "yeah"

There is a reason that as soon as people are flooding, and then water is flooding he connects that to Furiosa that came from "green place" and then vanishes, but she never shows anything like that to me.

Every one of said arguments have been defused by me and other anons.
They are no longer valid arguments.
You still haven't presented a single argument.

And this is the part in which you are delusional.
But that's ok, never had the delusion that I could cure you. For that is needed therapy and probably some pussy.

>He was a fucking mutant.
Sangunius was a mutant
Vulkan was a mutant
Corax was a mutant
Russ was a mutant
Mortarion was a mutant
Magnus was ... who the fuck knows
and Ferrus manus fused his sacred body, forged by the emperor himself with hideous xeno technology

I just want you to lurk moar before posting so you don't look like a retard for asking retard questions like "what is this Yea Forums slang"

Still no response to my post

>It doesn’t matter what George Miller says

user's headcanon > published statements from the (((creator)))

Holy shit, you are really dense

Not him but please see

user was not asking about the parenthesis, but was questioning the use.
Holy shit you are stupid.

>start of the movie is him sending a trade convoy
>some retard says he had no interest in trade

Jesus christ

>people still debating if this is feminist propaganda or not.

Not very blatant if you ask me. Besides, Max saved everyone, did he not?

> Which they likely took it from someone else

There is no evidence for this.

> or it was something from even before the war

Why would anyone have built all that prior to the war?

> No scientist and engineer is gonna shoot anyone that comes to you

Nonsense, it’s a post-apocalyptic world with no rule of law and where resources are scarce at best, if you don’t protect what you have you soon won’t have anything (including your life).

Da villain, of course !!! One of the driving forces behind a story. But I wish he had more stand out character so that it surely get the reason, girl wanting to get away, even legit. The original was done right Y’know ???

The mask opens.

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>before only a few had it good, now everybody wont have anything because there wont be enough to go around.
>And Furiosa realizes that this must have happened to "the green place"

No, the Green Place clearly suffered some kinda rapid environmental catastrophe that made it uninhabitable, as it had been a nice place when Furiosa was a kid.

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>an aquifer drilled deeply enough to output water that that pressure would 'run out'
lmao fuck off you zoomer cunts literally read a fucking book

>Source for your statement about George?

The Fury Road comics.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max:_Fury_Road_(comic_book)

>Mad Max: Fury Road is a limited comic book series created by George Miller, Nico Lathouris, and Mark Sexton. Serving as a prequel to the 2015 film of the same name, the series focuses on several characters from the film at various points in their lives before it.

It also, you know, COMES OFF.

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books are for faggots

>>It doesn’t matter what George Miller says
>user's headcanon > published statements from the (((creator)))

So what they're published, George Millar can't ignore the reality of the setting he created and that is that there isn't enough resources to go around.

It's a simple mathematical calculation; X square yards of arable land = Y amount of food / the number of people.

This is the problem with brain-dead SJWs, they literally ignore the reality around them and believe strict adherence to their bat-shit crazy political dogma can somehow change these facts.

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The Bullet Farm and the fuel production facility are beholden to Immortan Joe, he's a king who essentially owns them and thus isn't "trading" with them.

>This is the problem with brain-dead SJWs, they literally ignore the reality around them and believe strict adherence to their bat-shit crazy political dogma can somehow change these facts.
You mean like how you're ignoring the factual reality of the post-Immortan Citadel as stated by the creator in favor of your headcanon

It's like return to feudalism.
He is the king, has his own demenese, but also there are other lords, dukes and such, each having their own fiefdoms.
They are under Joe, so pay his a tribute, respond on his orders with their retinues, including military forces.
I thought it was shown amazingly.

> > It's a simple mathematical calculation; X square yards of arable land = Y amount of food / the number of people.
> the factual reality of the post-Immortan Citadel as stated by the creator

You're clearly a moron so I'm done with you, here's your (You).

Cool headcanon user

>It's like return to feudalism.

Which isn't "trade".

We can see from the treatment Mad Max got that Joe's policy is to enslave and rob anybody he comes across.

>Which isn't "trade".
I never said It's trade, I even called it tribute.
I'm a different guy tho, and you had no idea of knowing that.
Soz 4 that

>have 10 chickens
>have 10,000 citizens to feed

You do the math, you fucking retarded nigger

>There is no evidence for this.
Trigger happy, like to kill and display dead bodies of their enemiesso others can see, dressed like bandits. M8 there's no evidence of your headcanon that these guys built anything much less that they're engineers and scientists. Their habits, clothes and actions say otherwise. You're making shit up and somehow getting that they must be scientists cause they were already there.

Built it to support other shit nearby. That mine and oilfield had been in use before Joe found it, why couldn't the water have been part of the same project?

You could say that about anyone, except unlike everyone else in mad max who had more layers these guys clearly didn't, they're bandits pure and simple, and they needed to be put down. Had they really been smart they could've surrendered and been useful like the people water was

I read those comics m8, there's no 100 year time skip, last we see some female leader is listening to Joe's dwarf son as some tattooed guy says history might repeat itself. So you have no source

This, its so fucking simple. but I guess its easier for people to yell racist than accept that you can't split a sandwich between a thousand people no matter how Jesus puts it.

*people eater

False equivalence. You don't know how much water those people had in total.

No it's literally hitler