Now can we finally agree that this faggot piece of shit doesn't understand comic books at all and should not be making...

>kill off all your best villains
>kill off any interest in your series because heroes are only as good as their best villains
And that's why no one with a clue would ever put you in charge of anything.

We're not discussing comic book logic (which doesn't exist), dimwit. We're discussing whether or not keeping deranged murderers alive actually makes sense, and it doesn't. Don't embarass yourself if you can't actually come up with a logical argument.

Ironically enough, the only logical way you'd actually be a criminal, an indirect murderer of an innocent person, was by allowing the serial killer to escape in order to satisfy your own subjective well-being (muh morality) instead of thinking of the greater good. This way, the next life he takes is on you.

You're right Zack, the thing that makes the least sense about a ninja in a bat costume fighting a giant crocodile man and a magic alien is definitely that he doesn't commit vigilante murders and listen to nine inch nails. What a brilliant perceptive mind you have.

Hahaha based.

No because that is not what he said, retard.

> Snyder wanted Batmans mom to survive the shooting, go into witness protection marry Pa Kent and become Supermans mother

This, thank you for articulating why I also think Batman's "no kill rule" is so stupid sometimes. It's probably why I also enjoy Zack's unhinged badass Batman in BvS out of any incarnation of Batman I've ever seen!!!FACT!!!

OH NO NO NO NO NO
18+ board ƒam.

Snyder could've made batman rape kill and eat babies and still could make a good movie if he was a good director.

The man has no clue about good dialogue, no eye for good performances and his direction is mediocre outside of action.

>Something that was done for one purpose can't have anything else.
Fuck off. It obviously evolved the character. Batman doesn't kill. He's just a bat Punisher if he does. You know what's wrong with the Punisher compared to Batman? Too simple.

>Batman kills.
>Superman kills.
>My daughter dead.
????

Based. Batman kills all the time in the movies and no one cares. In fact, I think BvS is the only movie that actively shows that Batman killing is something bad instead of "haha, i killed the enemy, gotham is saved again!"

The only people that cares about Batman killing are the 100k or so comic book readers. The people who goes to the movies never cared. And since movies > comic books as a genre, its fair to say that its fine that way and Snyder shouldnt even care what happens or doesnt happen in the funny books.

Superman also kills Zod in Superman II.

80 years later and we have Batman why dont you kill the Joker memes. This is what happens when the Joker escaped Arkham bimonthly for 80 years. At some point Batman knows its not working and he either should retire since its clearly not working, or do something about it.

But as they told you already the no killing rule is just so they could reuse comic book villains. Something thats not an issue with movies.

wouldn't batman killing just create a cycle of killing that his autism vowed not to kkill to get revenge for his parents

Yes, I remember the guy who killed Ted Bundy became a vigilante serial killer.

>We better leave Ted Bundy in a shitty facility where he can escape easily. I dont want to become a mass murderer because once I kill Ted Bundy I will not stop killing people!
This sounds stupid for regular people, but can you even believe batman would break at all just for killing someone? He wont. He even has a second personality in case he breaks.

How many retarded justifications do the comics have in order to perpetuate this stupidity?

>If I kill him I become like him
>Gotham is haunted
>If I kill the Joker something worse will come to Gotham
>The Joker is an avatar of a god, cannot be killed
>The Joker was immortal all along, he can regenerate
>There are 3 Jokers!

Why do we pretend the comic book approach is good or that film makers should copy the comics and not do their own versions around it?

>2019
>Fat manchildren virgins are still mad about Snyder dropping truth bombs

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This. What people fail to understand is that movies can tell standalone stories and, thus, should not conform to the nonsense logic of comic books. The rules can and should be bent to better suit the medium, explore the possibilities. There are enough animated 1:1 adaptations as it is.

Batman could either:

>Let Joker live: he kills Todd, kill Gordon's wife, countless people, cripples and violates Barbara, amputates Alfred's hand, etc

Or:

>Kill Joker early on: literally nothing bad happens.

"Murder", in the dirty sense of the word, is used to describe violent acts against innocent people. Putting a serial killer, who you KNOW will kill again, down, is just justice.

While I agree that he doesn't understand comic books, I think when it comes to Film and Television, your superheroes are going to need to be comfortable with killing.

Batman never killing anyone works in a comic book because comic books leave a lot more to the imagination than a movie does. Your brain doesn't have to stretch its suspension of disbelief as hard.

You read a few panels in a comic book where Batman slams a mook's head into a wall and it knocks him out and your brain goes "sure no worries". That exact same scene plays out in a movie and your brain goes "that guy's fucking dead".

When it comes to live-action media, superheroes should have a policy of "do your best to avoid killing when possible, but don't put yourself or others at risk when killing the bad guy will save them"

This was actually something that Arrow did right.. eventually.

damn. 2 edgy Yea Forums

He’s right, you dumb faggot.

>We're discussing whether or not keeping deranged murderers alive actually makes sense, and it doesn't.

Imagine being an adult arguing over children's entertainment.
Lets argue FTL travel in scifi movies next.
Or the ways time travel isnt realistic in movies

There are better, far more interesting reasons for the Batman not finding himself capable of killing the Joker than simply having a “rule.” Anyone who says that they can’t think of any is a moral simpleton.

Let's argue about how loose and burnt out your skank mother's pussy was by the time your cuckold father finally got to squirt his load in there.

Snyder is a moron who doesn't understand the work he ruined.

By posting this and being on this website you're implying you're also an adult, and by opening the thread, reading the subject, scrollling through all the posts and then replying with your own opinion you are also, by definition, arguing about it, which means you just put yourself down. So I take it you're probably suffering from some kind of deep self-hatred? Depression? Maybe just autistic?

Either way, you should diagnose that.

>Batman rapes children. Superman rapes children, in the ass. Get over it.
truly innovative stuff mr snyder

What the fuck is the judicial system, retard. We have criminal rights, you know.

The no kill rule doesn't mean that there has to be no capital punishment. To quote Commissioner Gordon in The Killing Joke, the bad guys should be brought in, "by the book." If they are found guilty after a fair trial, than they can get the chair. But Batman just killing people outright just makes him an illegal vigilante.

It's only OK when Marvel heroes kill amirite fellow mouseketeers

Hasn't Batman killed in basically every live action movie and in comics? What's the problem?

>Yeah yeah comic book Superman is cool and all that, but what if he killed Trump? What if he started transitioning into a twink femboy tranny? These are the questions I am interested in.

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Batman killed though. Superman killed.

BeCaUsE iF hE kIlLs He'S jUsT lIkE tHe PuNiShEr!!!!!!!!!

Superman doesn't kill also, so I guess he's literally the same character as Batman, right? That's the only distinction in personality that matters. Also Batman is the same character as Spider-Man, which is the same character as every other Marvel hero. If you really think about it, they're all the same. Not to mention Punisher is just like Goku because both kill their villains, and then Goku is exactly like Naruto, who also kills.

Fucking hacks, man.

>MUH COMICS

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Not the 30s.

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The Batman's moral code is completely integral to his character, without it he is stripped off of any depth and tension from his character and becomes just a rich guy who wears a spandex suit at night.

The whole point of the Batman - Joker relationship is that the Joker constantly pushing Batman on the edge of his morals, trying to make him kill someone/break his code.
But if Batman is suddenly killing everyone left and right there is no point to them, Batman could literally find out where Joker is and call the fucking artilery on the whole place. And there is no need for dialogue between them ever, as soon as Batman sees The Joker he should just shoot him/bomb him/run him over whatever.
The morals are a crucial part of "Batman", he's not just a rich guy who wants to murder every criminal in the world while wearing an edgy bat costume.

If there are no morals to be saved then why even be Batman? Why even wear a fucking bat costume every night?
Why does he fist fight with those criminals in the movie, why doesn't he just fucking shoot them all at sight? Buy like a hundred of weaponized drones and kill any criminal on the street? Buy some edgy most highly advanced artillery with pin point accuracy and blast anyone that bothers him or the citizens of Gotham?
Joker becomes just a yet another criminal who he needs to kill, nothing more.

Not that user, but I'm pretty sure the underlying idea is that Batman, given his temper, resentment, grievances, etc., refuses to kill for the simple reason that he'll enjoy it. His character knows he toes the line between vigilantism and being no different from what he fights. The moment he kills, he acquires that taste, recognizes how easy it is for him to take down similar crooks, and eventually starts snapping the necks and spines of potentially lower-level thugs simply because he can. It's not that he's morally above it, it's that he's afraid of what lies on the other side of that door.

>The Batman's moral code is completely integral to his character
The character existed for 40 years before that aspect was introduced.

you typed all that post but overlooked a crucial flaw

>But if Batman is suddenly killing everyone left and right
he didn't

>I cannot immediately think of any realistic scenario where deliberately taking a life is justified

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOW CAN THESE PEOPLE EXIST

>Sir! That man is shotgunning an entire school! Let's wait for him to be done because we don't wanna kill him!

>Sir! That man is raping a woman in broad daylight! Let's wait for him to cum because we shan't take his life!

>Sir! We just caught the terrorist who bombed an entire city and killed millions! Let's pat him on the head because killing is wrong!

>Sir! We're in the battlefield and the enemy is shooting at us! They just took both of Joey's legs out with a grenade! There's blood everywhere! Should we wait and maybe offer them a flower? Killing is wrong, sir!

>dude gets gassed
>no foamy mouth, no bulging veins, no bloodshot eyes
>lots of on-page violence

Thanks for proving my point.

A long time ago and it hasn't been that.way in ages. Batman not killing people was a big theme because it complicated his role as an actual hero. Superman is a basic bitch so wont defend him.

God superman is so boring.

>why are you just standing there
>because I have ne depth as a character

Retard. The CCA didnt exist until essentially the silver age in the mid 50s.

Yeah, got them mixed up with the hays code. CCA was big in the 60s and on.

Are you really this self absorbed that you think he's Zack talking to you? Jesus christ you need mental help.

Is this some advanced 4D reverse baiting or are you legitimately retarded

The absolute state of Snydercuccs.

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You are literally retarded

If you hate Snyder you're a liberal redditor

Zack Snyder's daughter kills....herself. Get over it.

lol wtf are you even saying to him? He called you out for sounding like an idiot and all you can say is "y-youre here t-too.." .
Are you 5? For fucks sake. I cant imagine you trying to argue a point on something actually important.

Zack Snyder fanyboys proves their absolute delusions once again

Wrong again cucqhold. Guaranteed I'm more right wing than your larping ass.

How selffish

>can't understand an incredibly obvious, detailed explanation of what I'm saying to him

No wonder you lack the basic brain power to imagine simple things as well.

BASED

I want Shazam to Floss on Bat and Superman's graves

That stopped within the first year of publication. Even Miller's Batman, the first re-edgified version didn't kill.

The absolute state of delusional Snyderfags

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They have an excuse. They’re spics and Indians.

>Batman doesn't kill!
You retard.
1. He does and has in most movies
2. The entire point of Batman's character in BvS is that he's a 20 year crime fighting veteran who has completely lost all hope in humanity and his mission. Robin was killed byt he Joke. He feels like nothing he's done has made any difference since the crime in Gotham never stops. He's gotten vengeful and has fully embraced the criminality of Batman by now branding those he deems are incapable of redemption. It's only after Superman's sacrifice that Batman regains his humanity.
3. You want to know why modern comics suck? Because of the fandom. There is nothing new in comics. No experimentation. No changes to the status quo. No new interpretations. "NO YOU CAN'T DEW THAT" Fuck off. Yes, he can. Hate Snyder all you want, but he makes movies that don't cater to a soulless committee. He makes the films that he wants to see. We need MORE individualism in films and comics, not less.

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batman only has a no kill code for writer convenience of never having to create new villains. That's literally it. Otherwise, it makes zero sense for someone like the joker to not have either been killed by batman himself, or cops, or executed by the state, or black ops government agents who are sick of his shit. the insanity plea can only take you so far. someone who repeatedly escapes and mass murders is gettingbthe death penalty eventually.

>He makes the films that he wants to see
This is precisely the problem. He has all the taste and discernment of a twelve year old fat kid who wears shirts with the Grim Reaper riding a motorcycle on them. He is cheeto dust: the humanoid.

No, that's you.

>literally NO U

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literally the line that separates him from what he fights

You ignored all the other points in his post that BTFO your brainlet manchild brain

Leave him alone. It's the only way he can cope.

nice flop manchildren

That would have been hilarious

B A S E D

every silver screen iteration of batman has killed
christopher reeve superman has also killed zod
why dont you just kill yourselves?

Something that hasnt been working for the last 80 years in Gotham but Batman still blindly delivers them criminals weekly.

Your comic books arent as smart as you wish they were.

There were no good points made in that post but I'm having fun, so:
>1. He does and has in most movies
Irrelevant to whether or not he *should*.
>2. The entire point of Batman's character in BvS is that he's a 20 year crime fighting veteran who has completely lost all hope in humanity and his mission.
How angsty and 13.
>Robin was killed byt he Joke [sic].
Wow, sounds like that would have made a good movie. Probably not actually, but let's continue.
>He feels like nothing he's done has made any difference since the crime in Gotham never stops.
Yeah, because cosplaying as a winged rat and epically punching people doesn't address any major social problems. What a revelation.
>He's gotten vengeful and has fully embraced the criminality of Batman by now branding those he deems are incapable of redemption.
If you don't see how 13 this is, *you're* beyond redemption.
>It's only after Superman's sacrifice that Batman regains his humanity.
This is stupid.
>3. You want to know why modern comics suck? Because of the fandom.
No, it is poor writing and editorialising.
>There is nothing new in comics. No experimentation. No changes to the status quo. No new interpretations.
The Simpsons ran out of ideas in the late 90s so it is unsurprising that characters who've existed since World War 2 have also exhausted all the ideas out there. There are dozens if not hundreds of Elseworlds and What If stories giving you your ebin "different takes", of which maybe two or three are any good.
>"NO YOU CAN'T DEW THAT" Fuck off. Yes, he can.
You are actually 13, aren't you?
>Hate Snyder all you want, but he makes movies that don't cater to a soulless committee.
Catering to your 13 year old gunt is scarcely better, maybe worse.
>We need MORE individualism in films and comics, not less.
Hurr.

>[sic]
This is how angry you are lmao

>from NO U to u mad bro
Any more greatest hits from the 2000s?

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>How angsty and 13.
>If you don't see how 13 this is, *you're* beyond redemption.
>You are actually 13, aren't you?
>Catering to your 13 year old gunt is scarcely better, maybe worse.
>[sic]
>I'm having fun, so
>This is stupid.
>editorialising.
>ebin
>Hurr

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lmao

I agree that Snyder doesn't get the comics. And I think that's fine, he isn't writing comics. As much as I love the many comic iterations of Batman (including the ones that have killed), I think removing the hobbles of a dumb ethic made to sanitize the character for 8 year olds gave us peak Batman. I hated BvS as a whole, but Bats was the best thing about it, and I would gladly hand the reins of Batman over to Zach Snyder and Ben Affleck (and keep Snyder away from the rest of the DCEU) if I had a say in the matter.
Mind, I'm not saying that Batman should kill gratuitously or gleefully, just that a Batman who kills as the job requires it and who uses every tool at his disposal is a good version of Batman that I want to see more of.

OH NO NO NO
>actually going back to NO U
A HA HA HA HA HA
Thanks for the laugh based faggot.

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>lmao
>OH NO NO NO
>A HA HA HA HA HA

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>WHAAAAAHHH MUH COMICS, MUH SUPERHEROS DON'T KILL WAAAHHHHH
Wake the fuck up you fucking virgin

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Isn't it kind of stupid to drop epin truth bombs when you got fired for your awful ideas? If I got fired from my office job for using my company credit card to buy 100 gold dildos and then went on Facebook and said, "Gold dildos are the only thing to buy. Get over it." how much of a truth bomb would that be?

The poster count didn't change, incel.

I don't really care whether he wants to make batman kill or not as long as he's able to make a good movie out of it, which he hasn't

You're right he doesn't just make good movies. He makes the best movies.

Absolutely based. You BTFO'd those Snyder fanboys.

Do you know that comic called "how a hobby is ruined" or something of the like?

It needs an extra panel where it reveals that eventually some rich Jew buys up the property and then turns into the same generic slop they have been putting out for decades.

The idea that these things are "Comic Book Movies" died a few years ago. Can't pinpoint the exact moment but the MCU is not just a comedy TV show. Deadpool is essentially a clown. On the DC side it's also getting too comedic, literal clown movie coming out now, but also the non-comedic side is getting turned into the same generic deconstructivism that Hollywood loves because it's filled with depressed hipsters who want to make everyone else unhappy because they can't deal with their own homosexuality.

>is not just
now