When will anime catch up to western animation?

Why is the west so obsessed with violence?

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haha benis

>East vs West

Whoever has the most money at times will put out the greatest shit.

Anime is for fags but this is literally no-style rotoscoped garbage.

Why are the Japanese so obsessed with pedophilia and incest?

not gonna lie that was pretty damn kino

>it’s one man’s autism
Yes. Richard Williams is the most talented and purest animator who has ever lived, and also extremely autistic. His stuff is impressive to behold, but who the fuck else would make stuff that way? OP’s pic wasn’t even made with see-through cels or a computer (outside of editing). This nigga drew it all on straight A4 paper. For what purpose? All that does is make everything harder. But I still appreciate how much of a madman he is.
>frame blending
lol

i always thought the deaths from sword in this animation was very realistic

you just kinda slowly succumb to being torn open, they die very peacefully.

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this is just a bunch of white lines, one ship spinning around, and copy pasted smoke clouds

?

>and copy pasted smoke clouds
You have no idea how any of this works. You should stop posting and preferrably kill yourself.

Eastern animation is made for children too. You think 40 year old salarymen in Japan sit around in public talking about cartoon cyborg assassins?

this was made in 205

Those are all good things unlike violence.

Based retard embarrassing himself for our amusement.

wow sorry for not appreciating a whole pile of nothing

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No rotoscoping, just one guy autistically memorizing how to draw the human body his whole life

List a single anime that has had that level of fluidity and detail in the past 20 years. Every single anime today is made for children and autists with big eyes, school girls, and static movement

he's right though. you could have posted better examples.

This confuses the Yea Forums

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I truely wish western animation wasn´t so dead.

That’s not a great example though. The ship and missiles are distanced so much you can’t even see the details, and the background is just a single large painting being zoomed in on with the camera. OP’s clip has every frame drawn from scratch, and constantly shows close-up details with just as impressive fluidity.

Well, now I'm confused because I'm sure I watched this scene in Red Turtle.
Is it a different film?
Is Alzheimer's kicking in hard?
How much time do I have before the stroke??

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This is indeed great animation.
But I don't like the art direction and drawing style.

I’m so sorry user, your condition is inoperable. It was the same year though. Maybe you saw them close to each other.

>we're animating!

Ping Pong The Animation and Mob Psycho 100 are the best anime released this decade.

>animation bad

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This whole week I'm having bad memory lapses and memory losses.
It's been going some months but it got much worse recently.
Maybe this is it...

I can tell rotoscoping when I see it. The guy with the Roman shield in the beginning when the camera zooms in is rotoscoped. The rest is just heavily referenced no-style garbage.

but isnt the ugly stupid animation in your webm western?

>posts calarts garbage unironically

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>I can tell rotoscoping when I see it
The more you double down the funnier it is

>unironically

>that ending stab

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OOF RIGHT IN THE FAMILY JEWELS

You realize the a animation in OP is from hundreds of years ago right?

WOWIE ZOWIE

reminds me of some 70s depressing animation

The dumb user you’re replying to is probably picturing actors simulating the battle in a studio, and being traced later. But now I’m imagining some Greek vase painters thousands of years ago getting into an argument about rotoscoping the models.

>Ugly stupid
Lmao are all weebs underage?

literally Japanese animators

rotoscoping is the lowest form of animation

the romans were far more advanced than we knew, eh

You already made this same post yesterday, user...

Because we're not faggots. You excluded of course, discord tranny.

exactly

More like mmmmmm benis

In mind, yeah. Some of them might even be 30 and still have the mind of a child. It's sad, really; they've never moved on from their child-like state.

you are too stupid to get what that means

Whatever talent still exists in the west only work to produce comedies and CG shit.
As childish and surface level as you may think Eva is, the western animation industry is still kiddy pool in comparison.

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you retards love '''''paintings''' made on windshields and dust or the retard who makes '''''sculptures''' out of pencils. this is completely retarded and has nothing to do with art, unless you mean modern ''''art''' obviously. I'd rather watch a women shove spaghetti into her cunt and let it drop in front of an audience

>Anime
>Not violent

so choppy

>Anime

Lol

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>Some of them might even be 30 and still have the mind of a child
I didn't ask for an explanation of Yea Forums

Is this a slideshow presentation?

Right, i'll just watch the superior western equivalent instead which is

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this user knows his kino

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>Straight rotoscoping is just boring and unconvincing. Live action reference should be a source of information not just tracing photographs.
Richard Williams doesn’t do rotoscoping.
>I’d rather watch a woman shove spaghetti up her cunt
Oh, I definitely believe you would.

The objective truth is that no one here actually wants to be convinced in any fashion
Yea Forumsfags will have their moeshit, Yea Forumsfags will have their calarts garbage, and Yea Forumsfags will have their capeshit: the third: HD edition, it's all the same shit

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more artistic than this shit.
>no counterarguments
oof kys

>Richard Williams doesn’t do rotoscoping.
horrible drawn, faces morphing etc. horrible animation
>it's done in a retardedly autistic way
it shows, Richard, it shows

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FUG XDXDXDXDXD

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I just quoted his reply to someone asking him if he rotoscopes. What more do you want, an entire transcribe of his book?

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I thought the taint stabbing was a bit gratuitous.

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>incoming "it's bad because i don't like it"

What are some western kinos like this?

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watch redline

Soviet animation was total garbage that we can agree on

Is there ANY western animation that can approach this level of pure cinema?

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based

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>tfw no lewdcute lolimom

Is it a girl or a guy

I've seen too many foxboy doujins to be sure

>post one webm
>leave

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I wish anime was still about robots shooting laser beams and hot anime girls with poofy hair and excessive amounts of SHADING.

>anime girls will never be real
why must life be such a disappointment?

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>stabbed in the benis

fug archerfags

you can still find that.
but there's something about ye olde chink cartoons that just feels more soulful than the new stuff.

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>all this choppy overproduced "animation" made by teams of talentless drone gooks
>OPs made by a single man with artistic passion

ebin

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bad quints

Predictable

>ENDUT HOCH HECH

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Got any more like this?

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now the scary part: how much work went into it.

>fighting naked
n-no homo

I haven't drawn in 3 years and it's the only field I could find a job in. This thread makes me want to kill myself. Some people are just way too fucking skilled.

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>Canadian_enters_thread.gif

does the guy actually get stabbed up the ass in the play? because thats what turned it from absolute kino to trash

this could have been a neat thread had OP not started it with the intention of causing a flame war, fuck this thread, nuke it

speedracer

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Why did you quote a Batman scene?

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kek

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soul

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why do you faggots like gay pedo shit like this ?

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Because its in our nature.

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The only anime that comes close to the aesthetics of La Planète sauvage is Tenshi no Tamago.

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weebs

She's 200 odd and has a grandma voice.

Not that I can recall. This is a made-up prologue that puts the play in motion. Not in OP’s webm, the little girl runs off and tells a village elder what she’s seen.
I mean it’s a play, it’s based on dialogue. But even if it doesn’t talk about a guy getting stabbed through the ass, characters talk about skinning people, ripping people’s guts out, and impaling people. Greek plays can be violent, this doesn’t seem too far-fetched. Can you imagine how brutal close-combat battles like this used to be? We can’t portray that in live-action without it looking like a fake effect.

funny you'd say that since kyoani has typically god tier fluid animation

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is this why animefags fuck animals?

unfortunately no

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>haha I’m not going to praise the work of individual animators but instead use this opportunity to make it a US VS THEM thread
Go fuck yourself. You and everyone on this thread should fucking die. None of you actually give a shit about animation, you just want to post memes and argue

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oh god its retarded

This handdrawn?

... you lost mate? Where do you think you are?

So you want to base western vs eastern animation on individual basis? Because this isn’t a fucking television show, it’s a short done by Richard Williams. If we’re going to individual standards there are plenty of good animators from both sides that make the whole West vs East shit null and void.
If you want to go by television shows, both are fucking ass. We have people crying about calarts style for the west and others say anime look like the same LN for the east.

Rude. Lots of people itt are talking about what they like about clips and are posting neat examples. Hell, more people have been taking about Prologue here than all of the times it’s been brought up on Yea Forums combined.

Name of animation/play?

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This is actually quite poorly animated.
The motion is very choppy and disjointed, surging from pose-to-pose, which removes you from instead of immersing you in what's going on.

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What is this? Who is that? I want to make her mine.

I saw them both at the same film festival, in the same theatre so maybe your situation is similar? They probably played together a lot.

A real cutie.

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Man I wish they still did things in this style.

RED LINE

Traditional cel animation died a long time ago.
The CGI jew replaced it.

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You're right user, but you're replying to bait. "Dishonest" tends to be a dead giveaway.

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There is nothing from Japan that can compare to the cultural majesty of Sneed.

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Based

geez look at that competent adult professional working on his craft and compare that to the type of people who work in the industry today

why did he stab him in the asshole?

dirty plebian that doesn't understand that the spirit of animay is having both at the same time

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The fucker killed him, why not?

it was a different time

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What is this from

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That's the whole thing.

youtu.be/xeySOHOoveM?t=1352

Excuse me, could you speak up please?

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all this anime has zero character WTF

well duh, you're only seeing out of context webms.

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Yes who created it, what is the name

He was stabbed in the groin/pelvic floor, which causes you to bleed to death very quickly. It was one of the three places roman legionaries prioritized in combat for the same reason, the other two places being armpit and neck, so I'd assume the Greeks came up with the idea first.

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based taint stabbing bronze age

what's this it's cute

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define character

Sally the Witch

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I'm of a mixed mind when it comes to that kind of violence and stark reality, same as how bodies shit themselves when they die and the Greeks themselves recognized the practice of scared men emptying their bowels before battle. Aristophanes has a play where some foppish dandy is noted for loving his purple cloak but having it come back a shade of brown (from shitting himself) and also another writer of the time calling war something like 'the savage thing, the bloody thing, the thing upon the knees'.

It does a good job of conveying the sheer horror and trauma of close combat a lot more than something sanitized and hollywoodized, but kino always involves making cinematic, artificial and artistic the dismal reality. So yeah it stops it from being kino but it doesn't necessarily make it trash. Just something more visceral and nasty

thanks I'll watch it
>this was one of the first results when searching it

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Japanese animation used to be pretty good, but like the west, they have since gotten lazy.
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Maybe if you discovered them both in the same thread like me
I discovered both films in a thread a couple years ago

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>no-style garbage
What did he mean by this?

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Looks like Sally the Witch.

sounds pretty kino desu

>Animation
Imagine dedicating your whole life to a craft made to entertain people with no job.

Animating porn brings in some cash

>mistaking contemporary art for modern art

You have no idea what you're talking about

animated garbage fetches major cash from parents though, the fuck kind of shit is this

the groin, neck, and armpit are the most lethal areas on a body, you can lop someones whole arm off and they might be able to staunch the bleeding, but a blow to any of these regions( unarmored targets as well even in full plate) is almost always lethal in minutes if not seconds. Depending on what region of the groin is stabbed it can only be a slow debilitating painful death akin to a gut shot in the civil war.

Source? This is beautiful

2D animators are all underpaid and work ungodly hours only because they love what they do. Directors make tons of money though.

TAAAAAAKE ON MEEEEE
TAAAAAAKE MEEEEE ON

Anime quality is basically shit and will never get good again. It died in the 2000s when they started switching over to shitty CGI bullshit.

Compare the classic 90s rendition of Berserk to the shitty CGI reboot in 2012 onward that looks like a fucking PS2 game running at silky smooth 15fps

lol that shit has autoaim, no plane was that accurate

the B-29 actually had a very primitive FCS computer that accounted for parallax, bullet drop, and velocity of the aircraft.

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sauce?

> Makoto Shinkai movies
> Studio Trigger action / explosions
> Redline

hover over the "title" option you dingus

Saturn Conflicts

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800 years old, actually.

shitty season redeemed by kino ending

>nobody ITT has seen arashi no yoru ni
disappointing

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Nothing special.

jesus christ favreau, it's just a cartoon

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since when does disney deal with dark themes

during WW2 they worked with the DoD to create training reels, propoganda, and noseart for combat aircraft.

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>frame blending
Absolutely embarrassing.

what is this

yep, disney hasnt been honest since the 60's

live2D is all you need

just animate the boobs and ass cheeks jiggling a bit and pressing together, bam animated kino

>dishonest
Wtf does this even mean

holy shit it so good

Someone please tell me that man’s flaccid penis is super long and far beyond average

damn, its really old then

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