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>he was the good guy all along using the Dark Side to actually help people in the long term
if only TLJ had more hints at that

Yeah, nothing that happens in the new film will have been "earned". Granted, it may be cool. But from a story standpoint, came out of nowhere.

>he was the good guy all along using the Dark Side to actually help people in the long term

This won't happen. Don't get your hopes up.

>Kylo worships Vader more than anything
>Kylo is aware that Sheev is still alive, maybe Snoke tells him
>Sheev on Death Star 2 was likely a clone and real Sheev was in the Outer Rim and darkside projecting through the clone on Death Star 2
>Creates the Knights Of Ren to find him in Outer Rim and kill him
>Knights Of Ren come back with Sheev but instead of killing him they worship him
>Kylo tries to kill him to get revenge for Sheev fucking over Anakin
>Rey convinces Kylo NOT to kill Sheev, and Kylo turns to the lightside

If they bring back Sheev then Darth Vader will be ruined because when you see him killing The Emperor you would know that didn't matter because he lived after that.

I think this is it.

I mean if they say that he didn't die. Only if he is a ghost could be fine.

THIS

And then what? Sheevs lives a happy life after that?

SAMEFAGGING BUT RIGHT

He dies in an accident or some shit or he is imprisoned

What if the emperor that got killed was just a clon, or an android?

see

This is stupid though. Why wouldn't Kylo Ren get help from Luke and instead go to some literal who Sith-wannabe like Snoke? Luke's the only living man who has faced the Emperor.

Also this That's dumb. What's the point of this whole ancient prophecy if the Sith return in just 30 years. It completely undoes everything in the PT and RotJ.

>No one knows where Luke went
>Luke "betrayed" him
>Kylo was only using Snoke and darkside trainings to get to Sheev

Will the clone be called sheeev?

But only if he comes back like a ghost or vision could have any sense at all. And don't ruin the past movies. If they bring him back in flesh and bone then Vader is ruined.

>No one knows where Luke went
>Luke "betrayed" him
I mean before that. Also, nobody mentioned Sheev before. Snoke and Kylo just talk about crushing the Jedi and taking over the galaxy.

>Kylo was only using Snoke and darkside trainings to get to Sheev
Why would the dark side help against Sheev? Kylo should know Vader killed him when he went back to the light. If Kylo goes full dark side he'll end up serving Sidious instead.

>or he is imprisoned
Ohhhh how exciting, the literally Satan of the galaxy taken to court and put in jail for his crimes.

Sith aren't able to become Force ghosts though. Only the Jedi can become "more powerful than you can ever imagine" through their enlightenment. That's the whole fucking point of their ideology. The Sith thrive on their base emotions and they live on in the flesh, the Jedi abstain from their crude flesh and live on as luminous beings.

>I mean before that. Also, nobody mentioned Sheev before. Snoke and Kylo just talk about crushing the Jedi and taking over the galaxy.
You've only heard a handful of conversations, there will be flashbacks. Its never been explained why they joined up in the first place.

>Why would the dark side help against Sheev? Kylo should know Vader killed him when he went back to the light. If Kylo goes full dark side he'll end up serving Sidious instead.
Grey Jedi

they can now lol

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>Its never been explained why they joined up in the first place.
Yes, it was. Snoke was corrupting Kylo which is why Jake Skywalker tried to kill him.

>Grey Jedi
Gay.

They can be force ghosts. They can only haunt their tombs though.

canon

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>some shitty cartoon
>mattering to the movies

o i am laffin

What about Marka Ragnos

I know I know, it should be like that. But you know Star Wars changes all the time. Now they can say that Sith can return as ghosts too like this guy says

Which movie was he in?

Wait, was that a real force ghost or was he an illusion made by those beings trying to teach Yoda?

whoa, I buy it.