Or is he sheev and that’s the big ass reveal
What the fuck was the point of this character if they’re bring Sheev back
Maybe Abrams found a way to fix Rian's mess but I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
Ask Rian. He fucked up. Bringing back palpy is Disney in full damage control
Snoke was wack as fuck anyway, I'm glad Rian got rid of his boring ass. le wicked witch of space meme is not that interesting.
It's JJ's desperate attempt to save the franchise.
It failed.
God 9 will be so shit and cobbled together:
He was a force puppet created by Sheev's force spirit. Sheev used him as a catalyst to turn Kylo and train him, and also to block other positive force spirits from interacting with him. It's why Kylo only sees Vader as Vader and not Anakin. It's why Snoke has no history.
It explains everything.
>it failed
Oh so that's why we see all those sheev threads
This. Disney probably realized that Kylo doesn't work as a main villain because Rey already beat his ass twice so they bring back the ultimate big bad, except that invalidates the entire ending of RotJ.
Normally JJ writes the shitty unfixable clusterfucks, now the tables have turned and it's up to him to unfuck this clusterfuck.
Abrams intended him to be the new big bad in TFA
Johnson killed him off anti-climatically because SUBVERSION
JJ trying to clean up Johnson's mess and needs a new big bad, so is bringing back Palpatine
Return to reddit tranny
>implying anybody but shills and shitposters are starting sheev threads here.
Hey, at least it won't be the first Star Wars flop, right guys?
The only way to redeem Snoke is if he's Plagueis and didn't actually die in ROTJ.
they didn't plan the whole story in advance and now they're realizing too late that killing off the main villain in the second movie of a trilogy might have been a mistake so they have to drag out the villain of the previous films to substitute him in a hurry
these films are going to look like a fucking mess to anyone who watches them all at once in the years to come. the first film sets up snoke, second movie kills him, third movie brings in a different villain who is already dead and not even hinted at returning.
sheev is a big meme on reddit and by extension Yea Forums, so it's a marketing victory at least.
sheev is this guys uncle or son, son who wasnt really that bothered following sheev but got pulled into the void/power void
He was necessary for Sheev to steal his midochlorians to fuel himself, such as he did with Padme for Anakin.
They'll market this into a success and you know it.
Maybe it was just a body that emperor has controlled remotely.
They considered Last Jedi an underperformer.
Considering their promises that there'll be less Star Wars after this, they've already lowered their standards. Even worse is that Star Wars used to be a tentpole franchise, and toy sales were a huge chunk of that.
Their toys failed to sell and EA failed to deliver with its gambling simulators.
Rian thought he could stop JJ’s plan to rehash the end of RoTJ at the close of the trilogy by doing it in the second movie instead, but he underestimated the power of the hack side.
>thinking sheev was a reddit meme first
faggot tourist leave
That was obvious bait.
They are just playing the market. They know star wars fatigue is a real thing. My bet is, by bringing sheev back, they are finally trying to get that cinematic universe going. That takes a lot of planning though so no wonder they want to lay low. They're going to copy the MCU formula. They tried with Solo but it blew up in their face because of arrogance and hubris I assume.
If Snoke is even mentioned, he’ll just be retconned to be Sheev’s puppet in some fashion. I doubt that it was a complete possession, just something like “oh yes I was controlling that Goldmember fool”.
>Their toys failed to sell and EA failed to deliver with its gambling simulators.
Fuck it would be SO cool if The Emperor was force ghost training Kylo and was behind everything.
Fuck it would also give extra meaning to Snoke's death. Kylo wasn't just killing the Supreme Leader he was also killing a "fake" master.
>twice
They really only fought once on Starkiller Base. The only other time that could count was in TFA when Kylo captured Rey.
>That takes a lot of planning
They've proven that planning isn't something that Kathleen knows how to do. She couldn't even come up with a trilogy bible, and George fucking handed her one. If they have a new showrunner lined up, there's a chance that they'll attempt what you say, but they really fucking need a new showrunner.
What a non-coherent shitshow.
yeah yeah there was lots of prequel memes here a while back, communication disruption can mean only one thing, etc. it was never a huge thing here and died out a while back but its still going strong on reddit. used to be Yea Forums would drop a meme once it got picked up by reddit but now all the shit flows both ways.
Yeah I know right it would be SO cool
>Battlefront 2 score: 66
>Palpatine comes back
wait a sec...
BRAVO JJ
EA is making it's living on their mobile games now and their shitty Star Wars phone game is a big money printer.
You're forgetting the time they pulled the lightsaber. Despite being fully healed and focused he still couldn't beat her. Then the explosion from which Rey apparently recovered faster and left before he woke up. If Rey wanted to she could have killed him right there.
have no idea, but I don't see why they wouldn't be able to reach across like that.
I could totally see Palp's Force ghost messing with Kylo and Rey. Push Kylo towards darkness and fill Rey with doubt. This is also a really good opportunity to retcon what Rey saw in the mirror. If it's a dark place, shouldn't Palp be able to manipulate what Rey sees if he's already a voice in her head? I could see him as kind of a Ruin character, for anybody who has read the first Mistborn trilogy.
I'm 100% convinced Palp is going to have been the one pulling the strings. He learned his master's secret of immortality and perfected it. It turns out it was being a dark side Force ghost, but hey, if it works?
I can safely argue that it's concept of phone games that ensures this, not the concept of star wars.
>Ask Rian. He fucked up.
I don't understand this. Do you really think that key plot points like the space gollum dying were Rian's idea and not something that the writing team came up with before he was appointed? It seems unnatural to just completely hand the reigns to a new guy and never question his decisions.
>Star Wars fatigue
After two movies, the first of which was one of the most anticipated releases in God knows how long?
Meanwhile, DisneyMarvel has been pushing the same mediocre shit for over a decade and people still flock to see it. Nah, Disney fucked up with Star Wars: they had the perfect opportunity to start fresh after the prequels, and people expected them to make good.
>what's a writer director for 100 points
Rey houses half of the force ghost of Palpatine. When he fell in the death star the explosion was his force power trying to find a vessel, it found one in rey and he hid in her giving her force powers as the movies went on. Snoke is his other half, once Snoke died (according to Palpatine's plan), his other half of the force ghost went into rey. This gave her even more strength in the force. Rey is literally palpatine.
Screencap this
>Goldmember
Is this a new code word for Jew?
I remember people saying something like that before TFA was even released.
It's so obvious at this point.
Found the underage.
>except that invalidates the entire ending of RotJ
Actually it really doesn't
Yeah? People said that before Snoke was even announced? You fucking moron lol. Kill yourself.
XD
found the Jew
Not the one you were replying to but
>implying this is bad
>After two movies, the first of which was one of the most anticipated releases in God knows how long?
Four movies.
But yes, capeshit fatigue is very real too.
Soon after these posts JJ said that they had a rough outline for the while trilogy and Rian changed his story to bragging that his script was so great they allowed him to do it instead of whatever else was planned.
No, they were saying that Palpatine's ghost has latched onto another character.
That by itself sounds very, very odd. It's not like they had a multi billion dollar franchise on their hands.
It's a common theme in the EU that Palpatine survives as a force ghost. Shut the fuck up already secondary faggot.
So basically TLJ is getting retconned after all and we're back to square one with Snoke being Plaguis and Sheev being Rey's granddaddy, something everyone figured out after TFA.
Well, yeah, and it's been observed for years now, but it doesn't seem to hurt their profitability or attendance rates in the least.