Does the "be yourself" message in movies really work in real life?

Untrue

Just bee urself means "don't be ashamed of who you are". Most faggots here when dealing with women try to appease them as much as possible
>oh I wouldn't want to make her mad
>I don't want to disagree with her on this
>I can't reveal my real interests because she'd think I'm weird
Etc

The result is a man without personality. You think your date 'went well because you seemed normal' when in reality you weren't a person in her eyes

discord tranny

i have the same shirt, i wear it often for the past six years

help

>hair grows
You don't say

Exactly. "Being yourself" for normies (S types in MBTI) means being what others want you to be. And since normies don't know any other modus operandi, they think they are being themselves.

Then why did my almost-gf cut contact after I told her I trespassed on a constructionside as a way to feel alive?
It's not about embracing your weirdness or being yourself. It's about being impressive and positive.
If your weirdness isn't "cool" you shouldn't show it to braindead normalfags

facetiously this

sincerely this

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>MBTI
yiiikes

obviously not, but there's no excuse for that haircut

S fag detected.

Still is a shoulderlet

>be me
>have literally none of those things
normie depression sounds like a cakewalk tbqh

Because you're a depressed sad sack of shit. Nobody wants to be around a depressed sad sack of shit. A gf won't fix your depression, and before you fix it don't expect anyone to feel attracted to you either

Only insecure S care about mbti

This is a weird message, usually normies are the ones who love being labelled as depressed

Wrong. S fags are the ones who despise the feeling of being labeled and think they are super complex and unique.

-t. ENTP

>be yourself unless you are this and that
Wisdom of the day ey?

If you can take rejection from women and stand behind your words (having a spine), you can easily get most women out there. Women care about looks only to a small degree, and I know this because i've seen loads of guys that are ugly as fuck get girls.

The message is just normalfag "positivity" propaganda. They eat that shit up.

being yourself isn't advice to get a girlfriend
it's so that if you do get a girlfriend, you don't have to spend the rest of your life pretending

>Nobody wants to be around a depressed sad sack of shit.
I unironically do because I hate fun.

SJs are normies, SPs are cool

You are not your depression you humongous retard. But it's easier to just cry and wallow in self-pity than it is to do anything about it, it's easier to just convince yourself that there's nothing you can do and you're fucked for life. Might as well just kys yourself

you know i came across this image today, and even though the 'masculine' face is a bit overbearing looking, i really hate the feminine face. I feel like i can see all sorts of fear and panic and low integrity in it. This cunt will sell you out. and it's mostly in the eyes, not muh jaw and shit. so

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It's just a hormonal imbalance and not anything existential. Anti-depressants literally only work on NPCs because they only "feel" depressed and there is no mental component to it.

And that's exactly what u do. Someone who thinks they are N are often S. It's the dunning krueger of this reddit theory
*ESTP ftfy

ESFP's are annoying retarded faggots.

It actually does.

The problem is, it's the second part in the message, and movies rarely go over the first part.

The first part being
>LEARN WHO YOU ARE. FIGURE YOUR SHIT OUT.

Basically, Be yourself, and make sure you're not a fucking tool. Then the world is yours.
And if you ARE being yourself and the world isn't yours yet, I have some bad news.

typical normie anger when their 'be urself' shtick gets rebuffed

i thought i wonder what would happen if i put the hunter/warrior strong guy's eyes on the slithering incel. And i was pretty shocked. If you fixate on individual parts you might not see this but if you take in the whole faces - i feel like i'm seeing two totally different people - a creepy fearful furtive pedo - and a normal, competent person you'd want to know. And it's just the eyes not even the eye area

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>normie
hello normalfag

I'm not even depressed and I don't know where you got that.
Also case in point. Depression is undeniably a part of you and you argue that you have to hide that if you want to appeal even though you earlier said being urself equals being comfortable and open about yourself. Surpressing sadness for acceptance sake sounds like a hell of a life normalfag

normie flows better desu

WHY IS NO ONE CALLING OUT AUTISTIC BULLSHIT FROM WIZCHAN? How the fuck did it get to the point that the very intelligent things thought out by the wise men of fucking wizchan are tolerated and celebrated on fucking fa?
We also have the other kid who learned about MBTI a few months ago and has come to the very intelligent conclusion of basing people on that, while also saying that S types are le normies, while he on the other hand is not a le NPC like them, he is imaginative and intelligent

Quick thing:
Be yourself means try to act more naturally and in return you will be more confident that way. If it happens you're an uninteresting sperg when you're yourself don't be yourself, you already fucking know people don't like that. Two word advice isn't absolute you absolute fucking autists.
Le normies can also comprehend someone being distinct from them, and they can even worship and love people that have weird mannerisms and thoughts, but that doesn't mean they will like every single variation of weird, since some variations are a hateful spazzed out frogposter from r9k like you, and why in the fuck would they like something like that?
Work on your mental health and social interaction or continue going to fucking wizchan
There's also this fucking guy that is absolutely baffled that his gf left him when he acted the most pathetic and dependant way possible
WHY DONT PEOPLE LIKE WHEN IM A DEPRESSED AUTIST, CHAD SAID THEY WILL LIKE ANYONE WHO IS THEMSELVES HE LIED REEEEEE
You have to start thinking of ways to help yourself instead of trying to nitpick advice and thoughts of betterment that people give you. That's a pretty ingrained self defense mechanism but you gotta break through it

I'm fucking done with this place, there isn't even inspo on this board at this point, fuck me for wasting all that time on here

>my almost-gf

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because you stick out, but not in a good way. you haven't done anything exceptional that sets you apart, you just refuse to fit in because being an outcast makes you contrarian by default. nobody likes attention whores wasting their time.

>I'm fucking done with this place
Don't come back, discord tranny

ESFPs are actually a pretty sweet balance of social skills, athleticism, kindness and confidence.

>hide that
Not hide, overcome it. If you're depressed you're by definition not comfortable about yourself. YOU are responsible for your depression, YOU are the one who can fix it. This is something /r9k/ doesn't want to recognize though since it's easier to blame everything else and convince yourself that there's nothing you can do. Doing things is hard you see

Forgot to add creativity

You can't save people who refuse help user

>Be yourself, and make sure you're not a fucking tool.
>Be urself, unless urself isn't good enough then be something your not
This damn clown world

Meme, you can't fix everything by yourself.

Sorry bro but non NT's are not worth having a meaningful conversations with.

Lol TL;DR

All NTs really need to have sex

it's because depression is not something that happens to women. Or at the very least it's a far different thing compared to men. They will always have some guy orbiting around them and ready to help them/ fuck them.

A depressed man ? Jesus, forget it, nobody wants to have anything to do with them. That's just how the world works.

It's okay for women to show weakness, its considered normal and hell, even feminine. A man on the other hand, showing weakness is a big no no. I would go even as far as to say that women are disgusted by weakness in men.

Look, no one is saying that you can't have flaws or be depressed about something, but as a man, you just have to keep that shit to yourself. No it isn't fair that you have to deal with that by yourself, but that's just how things are.

And don't be one of those people that make being depressed a central point of their personality. You are no better than those girls being "hnnngg I am so damaged because I think I have bipolar, somebody save me hnnn"

"Be yourself" is a legit advice if you have a well developed personality, if you don't, well then work on it. People want to be around champions, not around the people who are on their way to being champs/winners. They want to be on the glory-bandwagon, bot a party of the journely, unfortunately.

Spergs are terrible people. Telling them to be themselves is actually horrible advice.

NPC boomer platitudes.

>someone who loves you
>good friends

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>meaningful conversations
Coming from an entp? Don't make me laugh

I mean, you can keep rationalizing things whatever way you want buddy. It makes no difference to me. I used to be a sad depressed fuck as well, but things got better and are getting better, because I realized, "oh shit, no1 is going to fix my shit for me"

t. 24 yo boomer (apparently)

If someone dosnt want to read what this retard actually wrote he just meant, dont be yourself, be what normies want you to be.

It really is amazing what can happen when you magically regrow a receding hairline, change your facial structure, and gain a perfect smile.
Makes you think.

>I used to be a sad depressed fuck as well
lol faking it until you make it. You're too simple to be depressed, you were/are just a failure.

You trying to win the depression Olympics or something?quit whining, faggot.

Failed normal fags are the most pathetic and undesirable lifeforms on the planet. Imagine being a herd animal and still getting rejected by the herd.

There are different sorts of handsomeness. Someone like Gandy or Cavill have very masculine, robust looks. River Phoenix or prime DiCaprio/Depp, whilst still clearly men, did look more delicate/pretty.

If the herd tend to be happy and do fun death instead of rotting in a dark room, who can blame someone in the latter position aspiring to the former? No sane person except bitter autistic faggots on Yea Forums.

Alright, calm down Nagato

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>my almost gf
>trespassing on a vacant construction site to 'feel alive'
she cut contact because it dawned on her that you're a dumb fuck with the brain of a teenager

Exactly, but there might be a kid lurking this thread and something may resonate with him, but still the majority is this
The complex people that are complex enough to ACTUALLY being depressed, the desirable non pathetic autistic people that aren't pathetic because they aren't herd animals, they were born in a fucking cave and they absolutely don't care about social interaction and don't whine 24/7 about le chad on a thai knitting forum

>clean yourself
>pick the right clothes
>get the right haircut
>eat well
>work out but not to roid retard so you look completely out of wack
>be friendly but not a push over
>take an interest in people and learn to have a conversation

you cant turn 1/10 DnD skinny nerd into a 10/10 chin chad but you can improve your lot if you put in the effort

How do I get a gf bros? I'm losing hope, dating apps aren't an option as I'm hapa, slightly balding and 5'8, I just want a gf bros but women don't like me enough to date me

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>it is better to be a pig satisfied than a man dissatisfied

>do fun death
is that a reference to yolofags

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When I started "being myself" I got a job picked up some hobbies got a vocation and started caring about my looks so I guess it works.
You just need to stop thinking you are a special snowflake retard who is sooo different and would never want to be one of those boring normies haha I dont want to miss out on the cool shit they miss out on like saying the nword or browsing epic loli threads kekekekekek.
Being a normal functioning and contributing citizen and human being is nothing to be ashamed of, some of you just got their brain washed into thinking it is.

just clunk one on the head and drag it back to your lair

The thing is, and a lot of people have been called this enough that they've forgotten, but "fucking tool" is not the natural state of man.

It means be yourself unapologetically, without being yourself forcefully or antagonistically. It means doing what you do, beholden to nobody, because life isn't a fucking competition of personality, and yours isn't under attack, so stop defending it.

When you can be yourself without couching it in irony, or splattering memes all over it, or drowning in self-pity, when you can look at a total stranger and simply not judge them at all, because you really, truely don't care what they think of you, therefore you have no reason to enter a mental defense mode, that is when you've truely become yourself. That's what true confidence means. It's not something that comes easy, and it's certainly not something you're going to see on this image board. But if you can master it, good things happen

how the fuck do we get rid of actual, non-ironic incels from this site? shitposting threads aside i dont want to discuss my kinos with "people" who have 0 life experience.

You have 0 hope. Just don't end up like Elliot over it.

ok but my point is about eyes. i made my gif a bit better. i think fixing the inescurity in the eyes takes the feminine face back to based bro instantly. is anyone else seeing this

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Anyone else enjoying the obvious cope attempt of this "formally depressed" autist writing paragraph after paragraph trying to convince himself everything is okay now?

>Being any EP type
These guys seriously need to shut the fuck up. Most annoying people in the world

how do people still fall for this

Except I didn't. I just did something that I thought was right for me and then tried to open up about it since I never do that. But it was a total disaster.
I have tried to fit in a lot, I lost interest in trying when I got rejected, disregarded or disrespected over and over again. Groups are shit for some people, and there is no crime in admitting that. I don't look down on "normal" people. I just don't get along with them

Literally the easiest thing to fix. Get a pull up bar, put it on your door frame. In like month or two youll have shoulders

Le i need a gf fags are the most pathetic and insecure faggots on this website.

>be incel
>get triggered by "be yourself"
>support "conservative" policies
>"everyone just needs better bootstraps"

Reminder that if you're a "ree yourself" incel and you're not a socialist you're a hypocrite.

Hey millennial, how about you take your politics and shove them deep into your ass with your ironic dragon dildo?

you don't use your shoulder muscles to pull yourself up though now do you

Tfw 32 yo happa, 5'9 with a thick head of hair and volcel.

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Step 1: do not want gf

Stop thinking about yourself in terms of your mediocre physical attributes and start trying to improve yourself as a human being.

Treat yourself as an end-unto-itself, not as a means to gf acquisition.

Learn to like yourself, and then you might find out what other people like about you. Make yourself worth liking, and people will.

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I only have the cat.

>hapa
wrong shooter

That feminine face still looks pretty masculine

Didn't have an Elliot pic on hand so it's W/E

not if you move your eyes left to right (everything in perception depends on priming).

You use lats, which probably have the biggest impact on shoulder width. If you do narrow grip pull ups you also use deltoids too. But in the end lats are what push your shoulders out. I used to be a shoulderlet in my teens

It wasn't vacant and yeah I was a teenager sherlock.

>just grow some hair and shave of the sides of your skull, bro

He does need to wror kout. Would also help with the neck.

if you're a conservative that thinks that everyone else needs to just be best and pull themselves up by the bootstraps to get fucked by the policies you support, AND you get triggered by the idea that you should "be yourself" when it comes to getting laid, you are an unambiguous hypocrite.

You need to come to terms with this. You demand that EVERYONE else have to listen to your sniveling "whoa is me" autism about why nobody will fuck you, and then in the same beat switch to telling everyone else to go fuck themselves.

Your unfuckable faggot status is caused by the malignant shit you believe about everyone else. If you get triggered by "be yourself" but believe in "bootstraps" social policies, you're going to die a virgin.

I'm not baffled. Of course I am aware that it freaked her out. I just used the example to show that anons normalologic isn't an all around tool

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I don't give a fuck about politics, it's you millennials who insist
>HURRR EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL
because there's nothing more to your empty lives than political outrage.

reminder its not the fact you look like a loser, its what it represents to a girl. if you look like a ugly, sad neurotic loser its because you have no work ethic, discipline or value. If you look like you care about yourself and put work in to look good and you have some talent and skill, women will be interested.

Don't listen to this, peak boomer advice, no amount of selfove will make women want to fuck you. Sexual attraction is about physical attributes

We are well aware of the halo effect you vapid boomer.

He could unironically become a chad.

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>fashion
>just put a jacket on dude
thanks user

And what if my value is that people shouldn't hide behind beauty facades?

a cat is nice

Regardless of whether you get pussy or not, loving yourself is better than wallowing in depression and hatred

Anyone here considered surgery?

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The only reason fat people exist is because they have no discipline. It is extremely rare for someone to be actually unable to lose weight, everyone can do it, most people cant because they are lazy and unmotivated people.

>why cant i just be myself
there is a difference between being a completely vapid whore or chad and being a fat/twink loser with no self value or beauty because its a "facade"

imagine being this much of an incel

Still shoulderlet

>just digitally change your eyeshape bro

You'll find the magic of self-love is that you no longer neurotically need other people to love you in order to be happy.

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>mutilatign yourself because you don't like your body
Basically acting like a tranny

there is a huge difference between
>being yourself
and
>becoming yourself

everyone has a personality, and it comes naturally; you just have to embrace that.

>just stop having negative feelings bro, doesn't matter if they are sincere, those feelings are problematic
The unfortunate reality is that the "root" of these negative feelings is solved by incels shooting up your schools and running you over with cars. If I were some normalfag who left the house, i'd be worried of the coming epidemic. VR porn isn't nearly as effective at keeping them docile as the assumed.

Take your meds bro

>just be a narcissist bro and everyone will love you

>Eat well which will not only make you look good, its very good for your actual life
>Work out which makes you look good and again, healthy and good for your life
>Put effort into everything you do so to get the best results possible which is a good signifer to a woman you would be a good partner and will also improve your life massively thanks to financial gain

you can either just "be yourself" and stay some faggy incel crying over your shit life and jerking off until the depression finally overwhelms you and you commit suicide, or improve yourself and get a better life and find someone to be with.

Yeah but your entire point was that I should put all my efforts into putting on a facade. Any hygiene that goes beyond showers and deodorant is a facade, picking hobbies and jobs you don't want is a facade, picking appealing ethics is too.
I have my own ethics, and I work out too.
But that doesn't make me more attractive. Frankly I don't care anymore, but I care about people who spread bullshit like its objective truth.

Just be yourself by changing everything about you bro, even impossible physical feats like growing hair in New places and restoring hairline bro also get perfect teeth and if yous re short well bad luck lmao then just love yourself!!

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Based

t virgin

your physical attributes can be fine but if you're a malignant, superficial "ugly" person with a shitty personality none of it will matter. Sexual attraction for women is about WAY more than physical attributes, and if you say or act the wrong way it literally doesn't matter what you look like.

Stop projecting your own superficial, appearance-obsessed porn-addict mindset on everyone else. Most people have sex with people they like, and that is overwhelmingly determined by your mind, not your face shapes.

"Ugly," bitter losers with unfuckable personalities tell themselves it's about "physical attributes" to justify why they make no attempts to be better people or change their life for the better. No reason to make any lifestyle changes or make an effort to be a better person because you don't have a model face!

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Or you could just kill yourself and quit annoying people with your edgelord shit

>Then why did my almost-gf cut contact after I told her I trespassed on a constructionside as a way to feel alive?
this better be bait, jesus lad

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I don't know how to fix my chronic illnesses which are making me depressed

But I don’t have any of these. Even my dogs don’t like me

See the fact that you literally can't see that people advising you on trying to find way to overcome your negative emotions and get better as different from "just get over it bro" is precisely why you're an incurable fucking retard.

Everyone is telling you to go to a doctor and try some medicine and you think they're telling you to just stop having the flu. It's unbelievable how hard a human being can miss the point when they're so completely self-obsessed.

"Never too much", user. Loving yourself is not to the exclusion of loving the rest of the world. Not being a miserable person makes it easier, in my experience.

You should put more effort into it. As much effort as you're willing to spend to get the outcome you desire. You work out? You're more attractive than if you didn't. If putting in the effort makes you unhappy, then don't -- but the price of the ticket to the ballpark doesn't change.

I don't think the trannies get the note.
Improving yourself into directions only for the sake of affecting and attracting others isn't being yourself.
Not saying you shouldn't, but the label is just wrong.
Being yourself is being who you are and doing what you want. For Chad that also still works passively, for some others it doesn't, because >inb4 memes, society works that way

>act like a sociopath
>brag about acting like a sociopath
>not even cool sociopathy, 16-year-old teehee I snuck in a construction site
>people cut contact
gee m8 I wonder why

if he said "and it made me feel alive" that's one thing. saying you needed to do something to feel alive - who would want to be with that

The medical industry exists to help you.

Maybe you smell?

Too much of a brainlet to comprehend of someone who is perfectly suited for the world as it is being dissatisfied because it still isn't the world as it ought to be.

Your just a failed normalfag who confuses being depressed with being a loser who doesn't get stuff. Rather than a demoralization possibly resulting in the wanting certain aspects of life, you instead simply lack those things which leads to the demoralization. "if I only had all the shit I wanted in my bubble, the girl, the job, the friends, the money, the social respect I wouldn't even notice the world outside it"

Yes all those serial killers and rapists and abusers don't ever get laid, just be a good beta cuck and don't complain

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>just get hair, chin and shoulder implants

You’rd Obsessing over something that doesn’t matter. Stop projecting your insecurities and warped worldview onto pictures.

“be yourself” never meant “give no effort whatsoever”

Wow you got me. Too bad I bathe everyday

I didn't brag. I tried to talk about how I felt.
Guess that concept just doesn't fit the 4chin narrative

a lot of people do weird things to "feel alive."

sneaking into a construction site at night, by yourself, just to get off on how you're mildly trespassing, is most just cringey and childish. Like we used to sneak into construction sites all the time in highschool just to faff about and smoke pot or whatever, but I would never try and brag or "confess" about it as if it was some kind of edgy thing to do.

Like it's like saying "I don't hold the door for people just to feel alive."

the whole sentence is the eptiomy of teenage angst. if you can't see this you're underage as well

>all this be urself crusty boomer advice

Pffftttthhahahhahahha

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*epitome, been a long day

It works better than the constant indoctrination that men have to be gentlemen and pay for everything and be super romantic and that girls have an entitlement to a men who dies everything right.

Just be Magnum.

Hypocrite

Except it wasn't at night.
I love how everyone tries to tone it down. I'm honestly curious what insecurety I tingled to make everyone say shit like "durr it was vacant, hurr it was at night"
I was a teen who did shit, and then wanted to connect. Guess that's too much for basement dwellers

i'm not projecting my insecurities. I think i personally look fine. I'm just aspergically interested in this because it's like science research.
I know from experience you get girls by having "energy" i.e. you're excited about something you're working on, you feel like cracking jokes because you feel warm and open toward people etc. That shows on your face and people fall into your spell, as opposed to not being able to see you/wanting you to see them when you're sullen and mopey.
I just did this thing with the eyes because i think it illustrates that to the guys who think it's only about your geometry

if you guys are curious about why incels are attacked so much it's that the majority of men are in the beta class(buy their women a bunch of stuff, be really nice to them while they're treated like shit and cheated on) but they want to believe women love them the way they love the small minority of attractive men

if youre in any doubt as to which class of men you're in, a litmus test is if a hot woman ever bought you a drink, instead of you buying her one

yeah because the 4chin narrative is retarded cancer. If you're cringey and autistic and embarrassing and you say the wrong things that will DESTROY your chances at a relationship WAY MORE than if you look goofy.

Overwhelmingly most people are kind of "ugly" or unattractive or imperfect. People will give anyone the time of day if they seem interesting or funny "Confessing" that you do what pretty much everyone has done at some point, "to feel alive" is yikes/11 tier shit. Particularly if you're just getting to know somebody.

Building relationships is all about starting as "the ideal version of yourself that someone else would like to see" and then slowly after they trust and get to know you, revealing some of the more quirky bullshit about yourself.

Not that you shouldn't use relationships as opportunities towards self-betterment. Fuck "be yourself." You are a maleable fucking retard and "yourself" is not some actual thing. Everything you do is conditioned, and every second you are making a choice. Choose NOT to be a cringey iamveryedgy poindexter next time.

This I ate my dogs shit to feel alive once and kicked its asshole too, my friends stopped talking to me after I told them. People are weird I guess they just don't understand us

And you literally can't see that your meme depression and the state of mind of everyone who isn't a normalfag aren't the same. You are trying to peddle cures for diseases we don't have and are so dumb you think your basic positivity shit is going to be some epiphany to everyone. What part of "it's better to be a man dissatisfied than a pig satisfied" don't you understand? I don't have any of the "negative emotions" associated with depression you boomers get because the birth control and onions fucked up your hormonal balance. Any depression is existential in nature and is hardly even related to my personal condition.

People attack incels because they have a suicide-tier ideology and some of them use it to justify murdering people.

I've always thought that image was funny because it just assumes the dude is miserable and unhappy with himself for really no fucking reason. Imagine being that dude and going online one day only to see that image of yourself basically telling you you're a piece of shit because you don't even try to be half decent, like you don't even put in the minimal effort, when before the dude was probably content and happy with himself. I mean, I always kind of find it weird when random normal people's images are used in memes.

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nope, if that were the case, those same people would obsess over the much more murderous group that is radical muslims. they dont