Thoughts?

DELIVER US!

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Kino.

isn't it pro jew tho?

Not really, no. It doesn’t pay much attention to the specifics of Judaism below the surface layer. The Jews in the film could be replaced with any monotheistic religion and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference reading the script from an objective standpoint.

Surprisingly good
I honestly like it more than the 10 Commandments 50's movie.
So many great details
In the burning bush scene he that is is portrayed as loving, with a soft loving voice instead of constant thunder and wrath
Only when Moses doubts does he wake his ire and show how powerful he is
In the scene where they turn their staffs into snakes you can see how the Pharaos' wizards use trickery and smoke and mirrors to do the trick

>Hey God, instead of killing all those innocent kids I was thinking, why don't we just off the guy who's keeping my boys enslaved?

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>no

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Probably their best album too

NO
You gotta understand that the Jews living today have less, if anything to do with the original chosen people.
The Bible itself describes how they lost their way and
Well at first they were undefeatable because God was on their side. They took down kingdoms and their empire grew, and then they lost their way and he allowed them to be invaded, and their kingdom eventually fell.
The Jewish we have today are very different from the original chosen people.

Not terribly. Even in the burning bush scene God comes off as just something so transcendent not even the Jews have much understanding of him. He’s just God and you should listen to him because he made everything is the most Moses gets.

WHO MADE MAN’S MEMES
WHO MADE YOU AUTISTIC
WAS IT NOT I
NOW SHITPOST

That's retarded because the next in line would simply take his place and would take it out on Moses and his people.
And I mean next in line as in next in command not necessarily a relative

just kill that guy too until they run out of candidates lmao I could've done a better job where do I sign up

What are they "taking out on them" that they wouldn't do for killing their children in this scenario?

What happened to Egypt after the events of this movie? What happened to the hebrews?

Also if he straight up killed Pharaoh he wouldn't have learned his lesson
It was all about sending a message.
Why else would he harden Pharaos' heart?
Pharaoh had to be an asshole so he could keep getting smacked down so everyone would see how powerful God was.

that's a lot of collateral damage for a lesson but ok

Well Samson came along and judged the philistines

Moses leads the Hebrews to the promised land then dies as he looks on it. Truly kino but only one movie has actually done the entire book of Exodus.

Old Testament God meant business

Based Yahweh has literally nothing in common with the goyim inspired "deity" made up by Jesus in the "New" """"""Testament""""""

Golden age.
They reach the promised land after wondering the desert for 40 years as punishment for stupidly making a golden calf idol
It was truly stupid, they had just seen God's miracles yet they went and made an idol anyway.
Moses gets to see it from afar but dies before he can enter as part of the punishment.
The promised land was already inhabited so, and this part is pretty cool, with God leading them the Hebrews just demolish everyone there, build a humongous impressive kingdom, and generally prosper.
During this time the people ask for a king to rule them so God hears them and even though he doesn't really like it he gives them King David.
Unfortunately after another period of prosperity the people lose their way and stop worshipping properly, start worshipping false idols, and of course God doesn't like this so he allows them to be invaded and their kingdom eventually crumbles and they are invaded.
Eventually, under Roman rule, the whole thing with Jesus happens and Christianity starts.
The Jews bounce around and go all over the world mostly being hated by everyone as Christianity expands.

He was kind of just a dick that people had to learn to work around

God had a plan.
What better way to show his greatness than to support a chosen people who took over the world?
Unfortunately things started well with the Jews building an impressive kingdom and just decimating their opponents but they lost their way, worshiped false gods, and eventually as a result their kingdom crumbled and they were invaded.

starting to think I should read the bible

Interesting, but what happens to Egypt after the film?

What was the story of Jesus? Why did God stop being edgy?

Kek, I guess the film couldn't romanticize this part

As for Egypt they continued being a big impressive kingdom until the Romans took over.
They never messed with the Hebrews again so yes the plan worked, those plagues and drowning the Pharaoh's army taught the Egyptians a major lesson.

See

>isn't it pro jew tho?
There's literally nothing wrong with being pro Jew. Learn the distinction between antisemitism and anti-Zionism.

Funny that they kept believing in paganism

Egypt was fine, and they don’t really come up much in the narrative again. We can gather they were humiliated and didnt fuck around with the Hebrews again. New pharaohs came to power, other great powers came and went. One time they even allied with Israel against a common foe. That didn’t work out very well, and they both got crushed. I suppose you could argue God chilled out when his master plan was fulfilled to save mankind from sin, but he still will send you straight to Hell for not believing so he’s still pretty hardcore

the hebrews just couldn't stop worshiping their waifus

that actually kind of makes sense
don't fuck with my boys or I'll fuck your shit sideways
Jod must really like his chosen

>The Jewish we have today are very different from the original chosen people.
Ashkenazi's in Israel make no distinction between the Palestinians they run from their homes and the indigenous Jewish population that lived alongside them.

Skip numbers and leviticus

Because they are pretentious about having spent a long time in Europe and becoming more civilized

Study bibles can be really helpful for some of the more odd elements
Like the other user said numbers and Leviticus contain shit that is really only relevant for that time period and is super dull. Deuteronomy is kind of a recap of the what happened from Moses with some added stuff. What’s important is Deuteronomy sets off the history of conquest and basically lays out why Israel succeeds and why it later fails.

Ashkenazi's are some of the most racist people on the planet. White privilege was created by the Ashkenazi jew.

>I SEND THE SCOURGE
>I SEND THE SWORD
>THUS SAITH THE LORD
Is there a more kino line?

>post yfw

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Val Kilmer plays moses, and also voices the burning bush (ie God)

>talk to God
>he speaks in my voice

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That's also a great little detail
What is it trying to say?
The God sounds however you imagine him so he's a different depending on everyone's interpretation?
Is it because we are molded in his image?
Is he speaking in your voice simply to decrease the amount of shock from meeting an extra dimensional being who doesn't follow the rules of this existential plane and maybe to help you understand something so alien, a being that can be anywhere anytime, and be at all times, who can travel forward and backward through time like we travel through space?

When I am feeling down, I watch the burning bush scene youtube.com/watch?v=6ds9y3lJGig

I am religious, but not in a conventional sense, yet this depicts an encounter between man and the divine very well. I am a psychologist, but minored in religious studies, and many people have similarly profound religious experiences. Highly reccomend William James "The Varieties of Relgious Experiences", it is in the public domain and free online. It can move even a staunch atheist. Even atheists like Sam Harris acknowledge the power and meaning of such experiences. Even he, as an atheist, has devoted his life to pursuing them.

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It was an epic struggle of wills. Between Moses, the will of God and Pharaoh.

Even as a Jew, I question this story. Moses and Pharaoh should have been able to come to an agreement. Yet, in this instance it became massively violent.

>as a Jew

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you're not a jew, you're a red hebrew edomite

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Jacob was such a pussy

yet esau was the one who was crying like a little bitch after he legitimacy gave his birth right away

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ASHIRA LA-DONAI KI GAO GAA

If the Pharaoh hadn't been stubborn then he wouldn't have seen the greatness of God
The plagues, losing his firstborn, and having his army drowned taught him an important lesson not to mess with the Hebrews.
Otherwise Egypt could have attacked them even after they settled down in the promised land.
Egypt needed to be humiliated and beat into submission.

OY VEY GOYIM

i named my daughter miriam after moses' based sister

>he still will send you straight to Hell for not believing so he’s still pretty hardcore
Where is this at in the Bible?

The entire Red Sea scene is one of the best things ever animated. The sheer scope and scale of it, plus Ramses' anguished screams as the waves engulf him is pure and utter kino

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the LORD hardened his heart on purpose

Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

i absolutely love that scene

>tfw first born
>parents are ultra religious so they're gonna put the blood in the doorway
>lives

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the real answer is that later redactors felt the need to attribute pharaoh's final stance (pharaoh hardens his heart on his own several times previously) to god as a demonstration of his total power and they werent concerned with questions of free will.

I thought this place was only for wagies and NEETs.

Nowhere. Hell is basically fanfiction.

Beautiful animation, kino casting and solid soundtrack. Gets unfairly slept on because of Disney shit and people thinking its a cheesy religious movie they show at 4am.
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This. It may have been the fucking peak of cinema actually.

>Even as a Jew, I question this story
I bet you do
did you not read Exodus, reason is given for lack of an agreement
>God hardened pharos heart
it says this multiple times. God wishes to bring vengeance and so that his name will be spread amongst the sons of ham, Thus Canaan will know who's people it is that are coming to kill them since they are wicked beings, and they shall fear God as they meet their end
Read Exodous

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That's not Seventh Son of a Seventh Son

literally the peak of animation

It is an an amazing scene. Just beautiful on so many levels

This. Animation peaked with this movie. 3D is its own respectable art form, but this is the peak of animation in its entirety

Why did God punish his Chosen People?

MUD

It’s actually saith

God symbolically defeated all of the Egyptian gods. Every plague is a mockery of their gods’ supposed Powers and dominion, proving that he was the true God of those things.

The Jews were kinda fucked up the movie

Back to where you belong

>implying you wouldn't

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This, along with Sinbad Legend of the Seven Seas and Treasure Planet, should be dutifully watched if you want your kids to be kinosseurs

Liked it as a kid, but it left a lot of scripture out so I can’t support it.

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>not understanding that the death of the fristborn sons is symbolic of the coming of Jesus Christ in Bethlehem thousands of years later and punishing the Egyptians for throwing the Jews babies into the river
learn2Bible

God is never wrong. Learn this and be happy.

These people are not even Jews, Islam and Christianity came from their roots.

Underrated, we need more like it, fuck that terrible DVD cover and I still can't decide which is better between it and the 10 commandments.

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Egypt was destroyed and the Jews went to the promised land and conquered it by the help of God. But they turned to idols and committed atrocities so God kicked them out and let them back in when they turned to him 70 years later. But then God kicked them out for good until the end times when the Jews come back to Israel, rebuild the temple and set up a idol in it for the whole world to worship. Then God will return and destroy the Jews (in reality the fake Jews) for good.

Exodus 6:3 KJV
[3] And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.

Jehovah is his name, the name of the tetragrammaton, not “yahweh”.

Pharaoh kept refusing because God hardened his heart. Pharaoh couldn’t agree with Moses.

Exodus 10:7 KJV
[7] And Pharaoh's servants said unto him, How long shall this man be a snare unto us? let the men go, that they may serve the Lord their God: knowest thou not yet that Egypt is destroyed?

Absolute biblekino

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some combination of those I suppose. God want you to feel comfortable with him or in our limited perspective we see him as ourself

Will we ever get kino like this again?

Wrong, God controls freewill. You have the ability to choose ONLY because God gave it to you, you didn’t give it to yourself. So when God needs to, he can completely remove free will, though from your perspective it will appear as your choice.

Pharaoh originally chose of his own freewill to reject God, so he was going to hell anyway, so God chose him to glorify himself in him, to deliver the hebrews from the Egyptians and gice them the promise land from whence came Christ

>God sends his angel to kill children
>Takes their souls with him

Is he t-taking them to heaven with him? They're innocent children. What else would God do with the souls of children?

user, I...

user, Jehovah is a vocalization of part of the Tetragrammaton. It was just done not very well and people later gathered it was more likely Yahweh. The name reveal is due to the fact that they used different sources when forming the Pentateuch. One source you can distinguish will use Elohim or others not, Yahweh. This one builds up to the name reveal when it is permanently switched. The name of God is YHWH, Hews refused to pronounce it after a time on purpose leading to Jehovah being a guess.

Off to hell with the nonbelievers lol get wrecked Ra-fags

True. I heard a cop out once that I enjoyed enough to accept.
>God hardening his heart was just God making an already stubborn person more stubborn through subtle encouragement.
Basically God was encouraging every fuck the Hebrew instinct he already had

Souls don’t work like that. You just get put in the ground. God says as much to Adam
>From dust you were made and to dust you shall return
Only really special people go with God, and their body goes with them

Watched it a lot growing up, arguably the best biblical animated film.

just a reminder the jews were never slaves
egyptians had seasonal workers build the pyramids

God knew what was going to happen when he made them
So he gave them souls that weren’t worth allowing to reach to maturity.

I'm a hardcore anti-theist atheist. This movie is a masterpiece, you don't need to be religious to appreciate it.

>Seasonal Workers
Mexicans didn’t build the pyramids

>Pretty much every ancient empire used slaves to do daily jobs or large constructions
>Except for Egypt, they were good guys that would never use slaves
Forgive me if I'm not convinced, but I do wonder who could be behind this post

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He's half right. They did have slaves, but slaves didn't build the pyramids. There's also no evidence jews were ever enslaved in Egypt.

I SEND A SCOURGE ACROSS THE WIND SUCH AS THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN, ON EVERY LEAF, ON EVERY STALK, UNTIL THERES NOTHIING LEFT OF GREEN

I SEND MY WORD, I SEND MY SWORD THUS SAITH THE LOORD

Egypt had a habit of purging their own history

Then why did they record all their military losses?

Beats me

>refuses to release the jews since he realizes what a threat they were
>eventually releases them due to grief but realizes that the deaths of every firstborn was going to be nothing compared to the damage that jews would cause
>immediately rallies his army to correct his mistake
>gets smitten by "god"
the Pharoah did nothing wrong

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Lmao no evidence

You can find it in a Google search

But I understand why you don't look it up because that would make you question your beliefs

Link me and I'll check it out.

Building pyramides was not considered a low job for slaves.
Besides, the big pyramides were built a thousand years before any realistic date for an approximate time for the exodus and long before Abraham even accepting he lived 150 years or so.
If anything the grand construction projects of the time would be the temple complex of the valley of kings, not pyramides.

Heaven and Hell dont really exist in the Hebrew Bible

Yikes

Fantastic soundtrack

More likely than not, Jews never fully moved to Egypt. They probably just had a big diaspora there, like English have in the US while their homeland is full of Pakistani. The story is most likely a dramatization of a 40 year long migration back from Egypt spiced up in later manuscripts with heavier anti Egyptian rhetoric due to worsening diplomatic ties. Unlike the New Testament, the old one is full of embellished stories and legends. This does not make it any less divinely inspired, but it requires a less literal reading and often with the foresight of truths from the New Testament.

The story of Moses is one of a great leader, of being citizens of less worth as a diaspora, evils that lurk in other people's land, the value of your own home and treachery of human heart when it forsakes God even after he helps him.

You could also make a paralele with how for hte last 40 years Mexicans have been migrating and taking back old Mexican lands US grabbed in a war a long time ago.

Tight brown pussy

Based. God told them they were "of uncircumcised hearts and minds" or something like that. Didn't they even betray Moses?

WHO MADE MAN'S MOUTH? WHO MADE THE DEAF, THE MUTE, THE SEEING OR THE BLIND? DID NOT I?

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>The story of Moses is one of a great leader, of being citizens of less worth as a diaspora, evils that lurk in other people's land, the value of your own home and treachery of human heart when it forsakes God even after he helps him.

That's the entire OT. It's funny how the Jews, despite being God's favorite people, are also the ones whom he treated the harshest, and they're also the ones who seem all too eager to just abandon God when the times get good.

Didn't Jesus say that he found more faith among gentiles than Jews?

It's a wellmade movie, but I think it has a questionable message for kids.

You spend your entire existence being told you've been chosen, you're probably less likely to appreciate it.
- Kung Fu Panda

There was a gentile woman who asked Jesus to bless her daughter, and Jesus called her a dog and only agreed to bless her after she agreed that she was a dog.

lmao where did he say that?

I don't remember that part.

It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs” (Matthew 15:26)

That movie was actually the reason i started to hate the hooknosed-chosenites along with their small dicked desert-god.

but its a lie anyway. there were never jewish slaves in egypt, its just another jerk off - fanfic of (((them)))

The Egyptians turned into cocksleeves for the Persians, Macedonians and Romans.

And Arabs and English.

>WE WUZ KANGZ
>but WE WUZ KIKES TOO
So blacks enslaved blacks and genocide each other?

Egypt went on uninterrupted, really. The Exodus was not earth shattering for them by any stretch of the imagination.
The Hebrews got lost in the desert for 40years and then genocided an entire country.
It was, as they say, a happy ending for everyone.

Maybe because no historian believes it ever happened.

what are you getting at here?

Obviously Egypt went on uninterrupted when there is no evidence outside of the Bible of the Exodus ever taking place.

Even if it had taken place, I doubt Egypt would've given more than two shits about it. Sure, losing an army and a Pharao was painful, but Egypt had what, 80 of them in total? A mild inconvenience.

re-watched it 2 months ago, i cried during the bush scene, the angel of death and the Dead sea final part

But eventually he did heal her daughter and say she has much faith. Why did he change his heart then?

Aren't you forgetting the plagues?

He didn't. He just needed her to denigrate herself first. Don't ask me why Jesus was apparently an ethnic supremacist, it's very out of character for him.

Oh yeah, right.