when all seems lost for our jolly band of Rebels, Luke shows up on Krait to confront the evil Kylo.
OMG, is he really there? Ready to fight Kylo?
Cue dramatic intense music.
>Pulls his fucking blue lightsaber, which was ripped in two a few scene before.
The entire audience figure out he's somekind of hologram or some force projection.
The whole fight loses all appeal. Everyone knows there's something fucky about Luke...
Good job Ryan.
Didn't anyone at Lucasfilm had the balls to tell him?
How can you be so fucking dumb? Does Ryan think every "good guy" lightsaber being blue?
That scene when Luke shows up on Krait
It's salt.
>It's a "manbaby pulls out some irrelevant shit and tries to pass this as an actual movie criticism" episode
This isn't canon since Lucas wasn't involved.
it's actually masterful because there are several clues that he's a force ghost but you don't notice because you're so wrapped up in the excitement
>you're so wrapped up in the excitement
Yeah, no.
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You're incredibly overestimating audiences if you think even a fraction of them realized Luke was fake. Especially because a lightsaber color.
Ya, i noticed immediately and I'm a dummy. Everyone noticed instantly.
it has less to do with us knowing he's a ghost and more to do with him appearing as Kylo remembers him in an effort to bait him.
If you aren't smart enough for nu-Star Wars, you should take a good, long look at your life.
I guarantee I'm smarter than you people and I didn't notice it. If you were enjoying the film then you get caught up in it. Don't act like a smarty pants
it's not that we're not smart enough, it's that we're not dumb enough to think it's smart
Man, you Nu-wars fans are unsuferable.
Admit it, Ryan fucked up, because he's an arrogant prick who think fans won't notice such details.
Everyone noticed. No amount of whinning will change that.
>I'm smart
>I did not notice the lightsaber that was broken in the previous scene, the fact that Luke left no marks even though the camera focused on his feet, or the fact that his hair was a different color
first of all it could have been any lightsaber. Luke has built his own before or did you not know that?
I'm saying there're a lot of things wrong with that movie... the fact that you're stuck on a straight forward scene means, ya, you're a fucking retard.
>insufferable
God fucking damn it, you're an idiot. And when in the flying fuck did I say I liked that fire dumpster of a movie?
just accept that you're a retard and get it over with
Only watched it once while stoned and it still fucking sucked. Dont remember that part. Tried rewatching it and i couldnt. Its so fucking bad. The hobbit 3 was good by comparison.
>And when in the flying fuck did I say I liked that fire dumpster of a movie?
When you started making excuses for Ryan when you mentioned he used a blue lightsaber to bait him, when he's clearly using his green one last time they've interacted.
Now, you're going all ragy and butthurt, since you've started insulting everyone of being of low inteligence, only to be proven to be a low IQ fruity retard.
You're right, force users can't sense each other from long distances. It makes more sense for Kylo to see and recognize him from a mile away.
cool idea, shit execution
him dying 3 minutes later makes it retarded
>but you don't notice
Maybe *you* didn't notice the blue light saber, the different facial hair, and the costume change, but everyone else in the theater got it.
How many times have you watched it? Be honest, redditor
>durrr, no one can be that much smarter than me, there's no way someone can notice all this obvious trash in one viewing
Face it, Nu-Wars knob, EVERY SW fans worth their salt im imidiately saw the blue saber and went "Dafuq"?
Only the ragy bandwagoners failed to notice somerhing was very fucky about video-Luke
>cant answer the question
You must be really smart to notice details on a screen btw. You watched it at least 3 times tho.
I havent even seen 8
>durrr, I'm actually smarter than you because I didn't notice the obvious
keep going
This wasn't the reason the movie was shit and you know it. I think this thread is a reverse troll.
How come no one else ever says this?
Oh god no. This movie is an unmitigated mess. But the simple fact the director cannot figure out something as significant as the color of Luke's lightsaber clearly shows the clear comptent he has to the entire canon and the fans.
Case in point: Even hardcore bandwaggonig New-Wars fans can't explain how he could fuck up so baddly.
I love this kino and this scene in particular. The fact that ya'll are retarded about it makes it even better. More kino for me.
I challenge everyone in here who hates TLJ to name a better sci-fi film. Then we can all tear it apart. One that's not Star Wars
so glad i never watched any disney wars trash. they bank on the audience being retarded (and they're right to do so)
>It's okay when Obi-Wan does it
rewatch the movie, not clips on youtube
>wrapped up in the excitement
I was still wrapped in confusion over the movie's choices. instead of being engrossed in the movie i had just finished thinking "that was a shitty end for that hyped up emperor character, and didnt that lightsaber get destroyed? Did luke make a new one or something?"
Last Jedi fucking sucked and if you think otherwise you’re a piece of shit get fucked
He didn't die from exhaustion or whatever. He willingly gave himself up to the force and joined it, like Obi Wan did. More like a meditative suicide so he can haunt Kylo for the entire next movie instead of being stuck on that rock for ages without being able to help.
Obi was struck down by Vader and it's not like Luke was trapped there. Quit being a faggot.
I thought he was intentionally fucking with Kylo to make him think Rey abandoned him, took the lightsaber, then sent Luke to finish the job?
>Took the lightsaber, then sent Luke to finish the job?
You mean the lighsaber that was shattered in a million pieces a few scene before? Yeah, that makes sense...
Obi-Wan died from Vader's lightsaber. Yoda died from old age. Luke died from over exerting himself. If Johnson didn't intend for exhaustion to kill him, he would not have shown Luke looking exhausted. You're a moron.
God the Nu-Wars fans are full of excuses and lame theories when confronted by unquestionable proof of Ryan ineptitude to handle a single movie with an already established canon.
why does it look like he's about to fuck yung Kylo with his long green lasersword?
Wait... what?
>if he was there
>he could do some crazy force move
>but the would make the force too much like a superpower
>so instead lets have him not be there
>but use a force superpower
>to be there
>it makes it more intimate
>as if he really was there
>than if he was there for real
GENIUS!
His lightsaber?
Dude he looks like he stopped to a barbershop to dye and cut his hair before arriving to the salt planet
especially since there was no face to face confrontation
>tfw no idea if I would have actually noticed this because I read a summary of the plot on Yea Forums before seeing the movie
>The entire audience figure out
>everyone knows
No they don't. Luke is entirely capable of building another lightsaber. Based on that time he built his own lightsaber. He had been using one that wasn't Anakin's for years. And the "fight" wasn't really the point. Who stabs the other first is not as important as A) the dialogue between the two and B ) Luke stalling so the Resistance can escape
The Last Jedi is the worst sequel of all time
Bro, we knew something was fucked even before he got his lightsaber out.
His whole look (hair, beard, robe) gave it away.
>Luke is entirely capable of building another lightsaber.
So we're just supposed to ignore the parts where Luke is shown to despise Jedi shit and actually throws his old lightsaber away? yah sure, he built another lightsaber.
>Vader's lightsaber
Brainlets actually believe this
He despises old Jedi shit so much that he went to the first Jedi Temple to study ancient Jedi texts. Sure. He absolutely did not take whatever lightsaber he had before there either.
Imagine being such a fucking nerd that you can tell lightsabers apart
>>the entire sudience
You are projecting so hard you should have your friends over to watch the movie beaming out of your head.
He was going to burn the jedi texts. Can you seriously not follow the plot of this "ages 0-3" movie?
Yea, and he made it green, so it makes sense that they'd have him make another one blue... for ... no reason....
t. literally a fucking brainlet
Fine, everyone else except you has the brainpower exceeding a goldfish and remembers seeing the lightsaber he's holding get ripped in half a couple minutes ago. You're the special one out who got all excited and didn't realize something obvious, congrats on being so unique.
Dont usually see copy paste errors like that. Are you logging posts/responses somewhere?
After Rey came and left. Again, its reasonable to assume Luke would still have a lightsaber. Especially when in the movie he suddenly pulls out a lightsaber.
>its reasonable to assume Luke would still have a lightsaber.
Yeah sure. if you're a fucking moron that ignores giant chunks of the movies that say otherwise.
I didn't notice it, no one in the audience did anything to suggest they saw it, and my friends told me they didn't catch on. Therefore your claim that "everyone" noticed it is flawed. I for one was still thinking about the stupid hyperspace ramming scene.
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this is fan fiction and can fan fiction at that
>hasn't used the blue lightsaber since he was like 19
>randomly projects himself with it
>Luke stalling so the Resistance can escape
I hope they figure out the secret exit that only crystal foxes know about, oh and that is also blocked off by rocks so I hope Rey shows up to move rocks. Hey remember when she said all she knew about the force was mind stuff and moving rocks? Now she has to move rocks, but like a lot of rocks. DO YOU LIKE THIS MOVIE YET?
*Crait
Obi-Wan was actually present and his sacrifice makes sense. He knew he couldn't beat Vader, and he also wanted to make sure Luke saw Vader kill him. This would turn Luke against Vader and set him on the path to destroy Vader/the Emperor. Whereas old Luke could easy beat the shit out of Kylo if he ever got off his ass.
>this is where I'll act even more retarded by pretending "everyone" doesn't really mean "everyone who isn't fucking brain damaged" in this context.
right out of the "How to Argue Like I'm Fucking Brain Damaged" playbook
lmao "peace and purpose" as he lets the first order genocide and take over the galaxy
Get the fuck off this board Rian
>beat Vader once before
>he's spent 18 years debilitated by quadruple amputation and massive bodily damage
>obi-wan couldn't take him
Probably had more to with with Guinness not signing a three picture deal.
>how do i get the audience to believe luke died in peace and purpose
>fuck it just tell them PLEASE BELIEVE US
>smart
>didn't notice something blatantly obvious
Pick one you fucking stupid bastard
shit idea, shit execution
Him dying minutes later makes it irrelevant
>peace
Well almost all the Resistance died horribly and I'll assume a million+ died when the lady kamikaze warp speed obliterated the First Order fleet
>purpose
lol. I'll tell you what happened. Some moron when they were pitching ideas said "hey why don't we have him just disappear like Obiwan did" and then some other moron said "hey we should show off how fucking badass he is" and they tried to awkwardly combine those 2 ideas. That has to be what happened.
Would this have been kino?
>“Everyone talks about the shock of realizing that on ‘Force Awakens’ I don’t come in until the last page,” he said. “A bigger shock to me was them killing Han Solo before Luke could ever see his best friend again.”‘Holy cow, that’s a real missed opportunity.’ Even having the three of us together, even briefly. I pitched [J.J.] Abrams on the idea of, ‘You can still have me come in at the very end, but how about this. How about Leia’s trying to contact me telepathically, she gets frustrated because there’s no answers, so she rushes to the new Death Star’
>“And she almost gets there but she gets stopped by two Stormtroopers, and just before she’s abducted, one Stormtrooper turns to the other one, blows him away, pulls off his helmet and says, ‘Hi, sis, I’m here to rescue you.’ I say, ‘It’ll blow the roof off the joint, I’m still in it at the very end,’” Hamill continued.
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>meanwhile her husband got skewered by their son and nobody really talks about it
yeah and Obi-Wan was a decrepit old man who spent the last 20 years dicking around while Vader was slaughtering Jedi. he only beat Anakin the first time because Anakin was over confident and Obi-Wan was familiar with his fighting style. Vader was a different animal. Its unlikely he could beat him again.
obi-wan was also one of the strongest jedi masters who at the time had been a successful commander through the whole clone wars.
yeah he jobbed against dooku but he killed grevious.
anakin vs obi wan on mustafar was way closer than just oh anakin was overconfident. also ani would know obi wans style just as well.
Instead of a blaster, have Leia blindfolded about to be executed, then we hear the tell-tale sound of a lightsaber ignition and slice and the blindfold is removed via Force power to reveal Luke in full Stormtrooper armor, remove his helmet and say "We've got to stop meeting like this." or some other nonchalant quip.
The best one I read was when Rey and Kylo are clashing their blue and red sabers, a green one joins in.
But Han would be dead at that point defeating the purpose
I’m dead inside knowing this could have, and did not happen. Even if it was just a pitch by Mark that had a zero percent chance of making into the final film. It just goes to show how completely, utterly incompetent these people are at making these movies.
it's pretty obvious what Rian was going for and he nailed it. Nno use crying about it just call it dumb so you feel better and move on with your lives
I rewatched the 2nd TFA teaser recently and remembered these assholes put in a younger sounding Luke voice saying shit like "My family has the force....you have it too" to Rey at the end, and it was nowhere in the final film.
by that point, actually way before in the movie i had lost all interest in what was happening, when the fat asian bitch was introduced, that's when i started checking my phone.
glad i saw that piece of shit at home.
this is why you don't let the talent write the script
>I was in exile the whole time you were in peril but for some reason now I'm disguised as a stormtrooper to save you!
>for some reason
It's obviously because he sensed they were in mortal danger.
>KYLO REN tries to force pull Anakin's lightsaber
>there's resistance
>it zooms past him into
>the hand of LUKE SKYWALKER
>Rey gives a dumbfounded look (like always)
>"I'm Luke Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you."
I remember wondering why the fuck he would he cut his hair and dye his beard before confronting Kylo.
No
This is the real KINO. The lightsaber in the snow woods battle flying into his hands instead. In order to get this and still have the trip reunion you push Hans death to two scenes later, like they successfully blow the planet core or whatever, the planet starts falling apart, the original three meet up and are about to leave but THEN the Han scene happens, trying to save kylo after the fight as everyone else is separated by cracking planet shit.
>"should we spend our set design money on George's badass looking temple on this empty fucking island or a giant set of cow tits"
>"is that even a question? the force is female!"
I remember watching spoonys reaction and he and his gf loved it
They were terrified that the OT trio would overshadow their new characters. Since they also had no faith in their creative abilities, however, they felt that they needed the OT characters to lure people into the theater. Unfortunately, no one involved in making the ST could write a story that had the OT generation passing the torch to the next group; we got them tripping over their own two feet and dropping the torch into the gutter instead.
Basically, cowardice and incompetence ruined their chance to do a ST that would both keep old fans and create new ones.
Finns character had potential but they made him a joke then shipped him with that ugly gook.
>autists are still buttblasted about this movie
it came out like a year and a half ago, fucking move on or climb a clocktower already
>intimate face to face confrontation
>LOL GET FUCKED KID
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Finn's character had potential, then TFA came out
>t. a manbaby
>projecting
This entire scene was fine except for the gay-ass part where Luke bends backwards in slow-mo to avoid the lightsaber blade.
Felt like a shoddy, piss-poor "homage" to The Matrix.
Remember when die hard fans forgot about the nightmarish fiasco that was the prequel trilogy raping everything they loved about Star Wars and retconned reality so that they weren't the ones primarily responsible for George Lucas getting disillusioned and abandoning his own franchise, conveniently re-remembered the prequels as actually secretly great all along because of ring theory or some shit and conveniently forgot that Lucas was the one who sold their favorite toy merchandise universe to the Disney corporate whores knowing exactly what they would do with it and that he's the one far more deserving of their ire than Rian Johnson who just did the best he could with a gigantic clusterfuck left for him on a silver platter by ultimate king of making up a bunch of bullshit and then bailing when any actual explanations or payoff are needed, JJ Abrams?
remember when these are movies and I find them enjoyable and pay Disney 12$ every two years to see them and then get on with my life?
>Rian Johnson who just did the best he could
At least JJ didn't put ugly fucking midget gooks in awful costumes because they reminded him of his high school crush.
please return to your containment board
I thought he worked pretty well in TFA up until he meets Rey. He kind of gave off the vibe of a stiff military-type when paired with the rogueish Poe Dameron. And then he just became a buffoon trying to score some sweet, sweet scavenger vagina
Please return to yours, reddit.
I wish he had used his Green lightsaber. I always preferred that one.
That's funny. I thought Rey worked pretty well until she met Finn.
>Remember when die hard fans forgot about the nightmarish fiasco that was the prequel tril-
Stopped reading right there.
You will never be a woman.
It's just such a baffling scene since there was no reason Luke couldn't have just done this shit in person and gone out like a badass (or had him do the force projection thing as a taste of his new powers building up to the last film).
There was no reason to kill him off after that force projection shit, it's just so out of place and the real Luke would have hopped on the Falcon with Rey to confront Snoke anyways.
Honestly the movie had a lot of promise before the TIE crash. Each character seemed to be at the beginning of their own story (Poe needs to get back to the Resisgance, Finn wants to escape the First Order, Rey wants to be anywhere but Jakku). Then we forget about Poe until the end of the movie and Finn goes from being a trained killer on the run to some guy fawning over some girl
I think this every time I've seen TFA too, the movie's really hype until they crash on Jakku.
Cutting Poe from the story really drains the life out of the movie especially since he's a central character during the first 20 minutes then just disappears until the end.
Either Poe should have died off like originally planned or he should have had the whole movie and all of Rose' screentime with Finn
based rian dabbing on capeshit
What do you guys think of Rey's arc in TFA? I like the idea of her journey being the inverse of Luke's (Luke wants adventure and excitement, and wants to wield the Force, but he's just some shitty farmer who has to gradually get better until he blows up the DS in the climax vs. Rey is naturally gifted, and the Force actively calls to her, but she rejects it until the climax) but the execution was handled poorly
What arc?
She has no real arc to be honest, I liked her during the first 20 minutes (as with Poe and Finn) but everything goes to shit as soon as they enter the Millenium Falcon and she somehow knows how to fix the fucking ship better than Han Solo.
It just keeps getting worse from that point since they give her no weaknesses at all.
>cow
user that's not a cow's teats is it? its more human like. and i happen to know momokun only charged $200 for this appearance
Seriously. If he was there, he could have not only bought the Resistance/Rebels time to flee, but just maybe had a shot at actually cutting Kylo Ren's fucking head off. If he knew he was going to die anyway, why not go all in, instead of dying like a bitch making what amounts to a facetime call?
The force is a fucking super power
>facetime
>spacetime
This is the shit ass pottery we get now. Thanks Kathleen!
I'll never understand how Disney could fuck these movies up so badly. All they had to do was the bare minimum of fan service (original trio together for a few scenes, Luke does something badass and heroic that showcases his Jedi training over the years, not make him into a psychopathic nephew murdering coward, etc.) but instead they shit on everything the original fans loved to push their crappy OCs who nobody cares about. It should have been a passing of the torch, not a character assassination. I think the decision makers actually despise Star Wars fans and wanted to fuck with them at the cost of millions of extra revenue because I can't comprehend a universe where they thought this would be a good idea to do. A child would grasp the obvious.
He was pretty much a bumbling pussy from the word go.
>arc
imagine the taste
Any of the Original Trilogy is better. Also, the Fifth Element is better. So is Edge of Tomorrow
he gave up and let vader kill him
>it has less to do with us knowing he's a ghost and more to do with him appearing as Kylo remembers him in an effort to bait him.
Last time Kylo saw Luke, he was trying to murder him with a green lightsaber.
If you aren't smart enough to see how dumb nu-Star wars is, you should take a good, long look at your life.
I could write a book on how stupid this was.
>the only practical alien in the whole fucking movie was the titty milk monster
Bravo Rian
did leia have any interaction with her son during either of the last two films?
iv only seen them once
Closest thing was that scene when Leia gets blown out of the ship but right before Rian just blatantly rips off the final force interaction transition between Luke and Vader from ESB.
Can't wait for them to murder poor Lando in the last film.
I'm not sure why he would use the blue lightsaber to begin with, even as a projection. What happened to his green one? I kind of liked the Crait scene, though. It's one of the better parts of the sequel trilogy. His interaction with Leia, his wink to C-3PO, his calm resignation while still having a little bit of faith in Kylo, etc. Luke dying from using the projection is bizarre, though. The film is a mess in general, just like TFA was.