"They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25."

Well excuse me, but I'll take the dumbed down action movie over reading 2 pages of Tolkien describing every single pebble in a fucking stream anyday.

the films weren't an improvement, but they wouldn't be better if they had more shots of the landscape or more singing either. The additions of the film are objectively worse with the action shit like Legolas vs Oliphaunt.
It's still a good adaptation.

he's not wrong, hard to really capture what the Lord of the Rings is with the whole Legendarium behind it

>Legolas vs Oliphaunt

Timothy Oliphaunt wasn't even in LOTR you fucking idiot

Cringe.

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There are some changes and additions they made that were mistakes, I'll admit. But I completely stand by what I said. The books are excessively verbose

The Hobbit was a far better novel than all three combined and a true children's book classic

lol its funny people actually think christopher tolkien cares about anything other than money. he took a huge sum of money from amazon before he retired and no one has heard a fucking peep from him since. fuck him

>philosophical impact of this creation to nothing
What's philosophical about LOTR? The only thing it really states is MONARCHY GOOD.

>the villain is evil because he is evil
The story isnt even deep. It's fantasy capeshit

This, fuck that guy

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He's 90 years old.
He can retire now.

it also says FRIENDSHIP GOOD.
it's mostly just a bunch of pathetic obsessed geeks that consider this story extremely deep and profound

god i hope this is ironic

that's what he says retard. Most people would take the dumbed down shit every time.
The books were international best sellers decades before the movies. Right after the Bible and The Little Red Book or something. LOTR was a part of the hippie movement also. Sure the movies definitely sold some books.

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Christopher Tolkien is an irrelevant hack, just living off his father's success. Anything he has to say about LotR should be disregarded.

different genre really, The Hobbit as you said is a children's book, while LOTR is an epic mythological tale.

>evil because he is evil
I haven't even read LotR and I know this is stupid.

retired with tens of millions of dollars from the amazon deal and nothing said. your hero sold out and everything he said was bullshit

So we should listen to Hollywood hacks like Jackson and fucking del Toro instead?

Did you make this thread because you saw the comment that I posted and googled it?

I don't think it was his decision.

say what you want about either of those two, they actually put in work, all christopher has done is ride his father's success and just throw together a bunch of incomplete notes he found in a fucking closet.

No, we should listen to the guys who write the wiki.

>but I am going to go ahead and ok a 3 movie hobbit.

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it was his decision, he retired shortly after.

But LotR is a literal 10/10 trilogy.
What would he have changed?

>look how they massacred my book!!!

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that animated piece of shit is actually quite close to the tone of the books. that's the kind of movie these retarded tolkien fanboy babies want, cheesy bullshit.

White men saved the world

My aunt was a hippy who lived in a commune. She named her son Frodo.

? He assembled the Silmarillion and other works. He dedicated his life to bringing his father's works to the world.
thank you Mr. insider man. The date of his retirement means nothing since the we don't know when the deals were made or what happened behind the scenes. He could've been easily pushed out by younger people.

LOTR is the capeshit of literature so chris can fuck off

go back to crying over daddy's legacy, christopher

you don't need decades of linguistic autism to make a capeshit movie

it's not about what he would've changed, but what he would've left unchanged.

exactly both the book and the movies are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to artistic value

>? He assembled the Silmarillion and other works. He dedicated his life to bringing his father's works to the world.
wow what a noble effort throwing together a bunch of discarded notes and unfinished bullshit so he can make money. lmao. fucking fanboys make me sick

And then Christopher Tolkien sold the rights to Amazon for $250m. Yay!

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If you're gonna try and bait people by being a pretentious faggot, at least use proper punctuation. It would be far more convincing because most pretentious faggots wouldn't dare taint their non-existent reputation with shitty grammar.

he was a sue happy fucking dirtbag. he sued new line cinema even though his father sold the fucking movie rights to his books decades ago.

He's right. Jackson and Hollywood are the devil and you have all been deceived

his father thought Silmarillion was his main work, should he have just left it unpublished? I think he did a pretty good job after his father's death. He didn't butcher his works or anything.
Who on earth is a Christopher Tolkien fanboy anyway?

tolkien would never come up with something as verbose and trite as this

He's been a bit harsh but he's not 100% wrong, ironic I reckon a lot of the younger gen would find them boring now

I do agree that all the songs in the books were dumb and slowed down the story every time they came up. Apparently Tolkien based them on actual European tradition and folklore and stuff but that doesn't change how boring and pace killing they were.
Only part of the books I didn't like. I never even noticed the excessive attention given to the landscape myself.

Oh look, he's shitting on the old ones so that the new ones can be hyped up. Let's see how this works out for him.

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>It would be far more convincing because most pretentious faggots wouldn't dare taint their non-existent reputation with shitty grammar.

it´s my opinion, i don´t care if i sound pretentious or not, it makes me happy when i trigger the fuck out dumb redditors like you

that's an age old quote dumbass.

equating capeshit movies and Tolkien's books is a pretty stupid comparison and I don't for a second believe you've read them. You haven't even found the apostrophe key on the keyboard.

The more descriptions the better

>his father thought Silmarillion was his main work, should he have just left it unpublished?

tolkien himself had plenty of time to finish and publish it himself. what a coincidence 4 years after his death his asshole son packaged it and sold it. i dont know why you're defending this greedy whining faggot. if this happened to an author that didn't have the last name tolkien you'd probably say the same thing i'm saying.

JRR Tolkien would have probably been impressed with at least McKellan, Holm, and Lee in their roles of that I feel pretty confident.

This. For every monologue GRRM dedicates to food, Tolkien throws in a spontaneous song.

>equating capeshit movies and Tolkien's books is a pretty stupid comparison

another dumb redditor who thinks lotr is high art

i bet you also think star wars is profound, am i right?

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wonder what he thought of the hobbit movies then LOL

so you haven't

no, i haven´t found the apostrophe key on my keyboard

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the idiots complaining about jacksons lotr are morons, but what they did to the hobbit is just a fucking tragedy. they fucking destroyed it.

Do not underestimate manlets

wtf what are these stupid poems and songs doing in my epic tale about a world that was literally created by music and which is inspired by old European and Finnish mythology! They add nothing to the action, no background to the world.
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In fact Tolkien should've cut out the language aspect altogether and make something more normal.

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Holy shit there are so many dumb zoomers in this thread it's unreal. >hurr too much time spent on trees and songs! My brain can't read this!
Name me one high fantasy writer that's stronger than tolkien.

fantasy is an absolute dogshit genre

But this is fine

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this

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He's not wrong.

>The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work...
The Lord of the Rings is a children's book. It's a great children's book but still that's all it is. So this is BS and Christopher Tolkien should stop being so smug.

>lotr is the same quality as star wars
Star wars is a Saturday morning cartoon, lotr is a modern work of Anglo mythology. It's not as tightly written or as succinct as other books by more talented authors, but nobody has ever written a fantasy novel with as much heart and craftsmanship as tolkien did. That reason alone is enough to make millions of people read/watch it again every year.

Name your favorite movie

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Fantasy novels are just shonen manga but without pictures.

>"They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25."
>"The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work, and what it has become, has gone too far for me. Such commercialisation has reduced the esthetic and philosophical impact of this creation to nothing."
>- Christopher Tolkien
Based.

Everyon should read the books as that was the intended medium for the story.

imagine overrating a childrens story this much

You see? Fantasy movies aren't all bad!

>the beauty and seriousness of the work
Tom Bombadils in your path

Imagine thinking wholesome stories that aren't grimdark are for babbies.

But the Hobbit films made a billion, or a couple of billions of dollars.

unironically this
the movies, fellowship especially, were loyal and did tolkien justice, and frankly were better than the damn books, which I read at the same time

Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!

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