Star Wars

>retconning shit one movie later
OHNONONONO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE STATE

OHONONONONONONONONON

Whatever they want, starwars has a really bad history of continuity that doesn't last a single movie like leia, or like midichlorians, or like clones being the source of stormtroopers, or like Anakin being a good friend. It was backlash before and it's backlash again.

nice non-news, jj already confirmed the opposite

Rey's parents being no one special will 100% be retconned

screen cap this

>midclorians
Were not retconnected, they were expanded upon.
All other shit you listed were not changed in the same trilogy.

always believe the opposite of what jews say

TFA was bland and 'safe' but it set things up for a new trilogy really well. TLJ was legitimately shit.

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Will it finally happen?

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Absolutely embarrassing.

>implying mouse wars is canon anyway

Definitely Reys lineage.

Honestly that's probably it.

7 retcons the other six movies
8 retcons 7
9 retcons 8

What a fucking mess.

luke dying
reys parents
snoke not having any backstory

ITT anons pretend they know what retcon means

But JJ said literally a few hours ago in an interview that hes building on Rian's movie.

And him being ok with it doesn't mean its gonna happen. What the fuck is these threads around clickbait.

It wasn't Holdo's suicide light speed run that destroyed Snoke's ship, it was Rey unleashing Force energy that destroyed all those ships.

>TFA was bland and 'safe' but it set things up for a new trilogy really well
no it didn't. it was A New Hope all over again except with shit characters. The Evil Empire vs Rebels dynamic is tired and doesn't even make sense from a Canon perspective. The New Republic has been in power for what, 30 years? why are they still the underdogs? also the fact that the Force still isn't balanced negates Anakin's sacrifice. What was the point of the prophesy of the Chosen One if it accomplished virtually nothing?

>what should be retconned?

George selling star wars to the mouse. He should get to keep the 4 billion though.

because hating on Jew-Wars is fun.

TFA didn't do anything for me, but at the time I recognized how many intriguing possibilities it set up. luke's lightsaber story, knights of ren, finding out what happened to the new jedi order etc. all of those things seemed like they were going to be interesting plotlines.

the problem of setting up a trilogy is that the groundwork you lay down means nothing if some narcissistic weirdo is just going to take over and throw it all away in the second movie

What should get retconned
>Ep 7 and 8
>Relaunch during the thrawn trilogy
>Follow the story of a storm trooper that has force powers and is either hiding it or part of experimental devision within thrawns army
>Trooper is found out/program scraped set to get 66'ed
>Trooper flees.
>First movie is about him escaping form thrawn and the empire and getting a rag tag band of misfits, prisinors and rebles
>Second movie is him finding out thrawns plan from the books and trying to find Luke and the rebles to warn them
>Movie three involves him and the group setting up a plan to sabotage a one of the fleets to give the rebels a fighting chance.

Keeps the original story intact, is only a few years past the 6th movie and keeps the same hero's people love but does not put them in the spot light

>THIS is a 10/10 Aryan specimen according to white people

The entire trilogy up to this point was actually a vision of the future.

Finn wakes up and now knows exactly what will happen.

Finn reveals his true powers by single handedly beating Kylo Ren in the Lightsaber duel in the forest.

My guess is the entirety of TLJ. All of the leaks for IX are sounding more and more like an actual second film in the trilogy and not a finale which is starting to make me think they are doing an episode 10 to close it out and turning this trilogy into a quadrilogy instead.

>the mouse
no user,
we killed it

I'm sorry george

They're just going to shit out episode IX and flush it in the hope no one will remember that trilogy ever existed.

They're not retconning anything.

>Star Wars X: The Final Chapter
Would be sick

Bullshit.
Every movie of this trilogy was made to distract you with flashy pictures while they were taking apart an original trilogy member and execute him/her. All while an awful, contrived plot was trying to push for some bland new characters.
TFA ruined Leia and Han, and killed Han
TLJ ruined Leia some more, ruined Luke and killed him.
Carrie fisher fooled them and died before Ep IX.

I'm sorry, what?

>t. wh*toid

yes sick as in barf

I don’t even consider this a retcon, Kylo was obviously lying to her.

problem is who the fuck cares who her parents are at this point. TLJ was so bad in so many ways that i dont even care anymore

yes which is why rogue one is obviously the best

implying anyone cares about what you think

TFA is only retroactively horrible due to TLJ. Admittedly, TFA is heavily responsible due to setting up plot threads that TLJ absolutely NEEDED to ace to make things work, but, if by some miracle, TLJ was great, TFA would be considered fine.

t. disney shill

TFA only appears ok when you compare it to TLJ. Its like comparing two turds.

TFA killed of Han for no fucking reason, ruined Phasma, and saddled us with Rey, Finn, and Poe as our lead characters.

TFA wasn't even an actual new movie, it was just a remake

I can't believe Disney fucked up this trilogy so hard. It's like they had absolutely no vision for it when they set out to make three movies. Just "okay, you go with the first movie, then you do whatever for the second movie and we'll wing the third movie or whatever, who cares"
Fucking hacks.

/thread

Consider me subverted

Only acceptable retcon is the revelation that every character in the sequel trilogy is actually Anakin Skywalker in purgatory going through trials before he could become the Force Ghost we see in ROTJ.

That's exactly what they did. They took a Marvel approach to things- made even easier due to creating the "A Star Wars Story" formats. Plus, think of all the other ways they were stretching out the brand.

In their minds, they were probably going "who cares if Episode VIII isn't for everyone. We've Solo six months from now, a new cartoon coming, and a Star Wars Land heading to our parks. We'll please everyone SOMEHOW."

God this franchise is a fucking mess. How do you fuck up this badly to the point of actually having to retcon plot elements in a science fiction movie where the only rule is "make sure shit is consistent"?

If you locked me in a hotel room with a typewriter and continually poured pure grain alcohol through a funnel down my throat to keep me at a consistent piss drunk on the verge of alcohol poisoning, I would still be able to come up with a cleaner, more fun trilogy than this multibillion dollar company has been able to. All the king's horses and all the kings men can't fucking put this franchise back together again.

For the life of me, I just do not understand how a bunch of people who are supposed to be highly paid industry professionals can manage to bore, frustrate, and confuse me time and time again with a 100% failure rate. Why get JJ Abrams to do VII, get some literal who moron to do VIII, then hire JJ back for IX? What was wrong with Abrams doing all three? In fact, why would you not hire Spielberg, THE guy who makes good Star Wars movies?

Which marketing genius said to him (or probably her)self one day;

>"Hmm, let's see, years of extensive market research and common fucking sense show that 10-45 year old white males enjoy Star Wars more than any other group and are willing to spend small fortunes on Star Wars merchandise, video games, and movies ..."
>"Well I guess I'd better cancel the video games, make boring characters that nobody would buy toys of, and aim all of these movies at young girls of color and single middle-aged wine aunts, yeah that sounds like a surefire plan to make way more money."

It's the equivalent of taking your 8-year old daughter to see "Frozen 2" and halfway through one of Elsa's cute songs, Stallone and the rest of The Expendables rappel in from a Black Hawk helicopter and start lighting the entire village up with grenade launchers and submachine guns.

Who the fuck are these movies even for? Who is enjoying these films?

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SW is just another victim of the black death of cinema...

Like, I genuinely think the problem with NuWars stems from Disney looking at it entirely from a macro brand perspective. "We're hitting X demographic with Y, while products A and B should please C."

>Disney
>founded by a literal nazi
>jewish

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It was all a force dream Rey had. She'll tell them what happened and prevent the whole events of Episode 8. They'll also execute Rose for being a fucking moron.

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>clones being the source of stormtrooper
you sure about that one chief?

Lucas killed it, then Disney shat on its grave.

does it matter?
This "trilogy" story is an embarrassment of whoever thought of it. Just end it already and never mention it ever again

>How do you fuck up this badly to the point of actually having to retcon plot elements in a science fiction movie where the only rule is "make sure shit is consistent"?

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>the (((Mouse))) killed it.

Come on, grow up and name names.
>Kathleen Kennedy
>Bob Iger
>Kiri Hart
>JJ Abrams
>Rian Johnson

Just saying (the mouse) let's people get away with it.

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>t. Nigger

This.
The series could have been saved at 8 if someone had wrangled JJ's shameless copy into something worth caring about, but now?
Even if you pretend 8 doesn't exist, you run headfirst into the shitty rehash 7 made, only now you've only got one movie to resolve everything, so you can't do that and also fix the mistakes of 7.

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the jews took it over and ruined it like they do with everything. Walt Disney was an actual visionary.

It's been dead since 1999 and if you don't agree you're first in line for the Holocaust 2.0

This.
Jews subvert and destroy.

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>Luke will have all been a hallucination
>on everyone's part
>rey is the force always has been
>le we are so brilliant to have kept that hidden from the manbabies

Ep IX will resonate with Jedi.

Rey will complete her training (only to be told she doesn't need it)
Rey will have mostly mastered her powers and will have to go and save her friends.
But she'll be drawn away for a final confrontation with Kylo.
She will convert Kylo to the light only for him to die in the process.

>Spielburg
cringe

This.

why do people treat JJ like he's any better than anyone else involved in that shit?

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>real ass history is full of wild, ragged contradictions and "retcons"
Please tell me he explains this

I would have loved Rian to have got 9. He's too arrogant to even acknowledge he could even make a mistake, and even if he did he's also too proud to admit it. He'd double down on all his idiocy, not attempt to explain a damn thing, ignore basic issues of internal consistency and pull yet more solutions out of his ass.
There's no better person to utterly fucking bury this abomination.

Really? Cause I've been seeing growing resentment directed toward him outside of here.

Logic is on our side. Nice, user.

Okay seriously though, what is there to look forward to in IX? Even fucking Episode 2 was fucking crap for the most part but ends with the Clone Wars starting, Dooku escapes, Anakin and Obiwan getting fucked up, Anakin marries Padme in secret, see that Dooku is actually manipulating the "bad guys" in the war under Sideous's command. All things to consider going into ROTS

TLJ ends with the FO fleet destroyed, Kylo is still a bitch, Reys powers are insane, according to Leia "we have everything we need" and some broomboy has force powers so we go into IX expecting..... what exactly?

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based and redpilled.
Imagine still giving a single fuck about mouse wars in 2019.

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Probably Rey's past. It only makes sense for them to retcon the only good part of the movie and keep all of the trash.

well obviously I'm talking here where people act like Rian did some horrible shit when there was barely anything there to being with besides a fucking rehash of ANH

he's all flash over substance. sometime it takes people a while to see through it.

>What was the point of the prophesy of the Chosen One if it accomplished virtually nothing?
I just realized that this is part of the whole post modern "subversion" thing.
nothing matters. rey has no parents, or they didn't matter. the prophecy didn't matter. Luke's lineage, the Skywalkers; none of that mattered.

it's like deconstruction or something. why are nihilists allowed to make movies

>It's the equivalent of taking your 8-year old daughter to see "Frozen 2" and halfway through one of Elsa's cute songs, Stallone and the rest of The Expendables rappel in from a Black Hawk helicopter and start lighting the entire village up with grenade launchers and submachine guns.
That would be pretty awesome.

>real-ass history
who talks like this?

Nobody cares about Star Wars

what makes you think it will be "final"

>TLJ ends with the FO fleet destroyed, Kylo is still a bitch, Reys powers are insane, according to Leia "we have everything we need" and some broomboy has force powers so we go into IX expecting..... what exactly?

Exactly. Star Wars ended with VIII. It certainly feels like the end. So look for Rey to just kick even more First Order white male ass, of whom magically restored after the end of TLJ.

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Not sure, but I just hope to god my main boy PORG comes back.

That excuse only works in a medium where the narrator is fallible and his means of conveying the story is via his records.
A story directly from a narrator is objectively accurate insofar as they describe events from their perspective. Their interpretation might be wrong, but if some fag is at a certain planet on a certain planet, that's an objective fact unless there's an explicit reason his faculties aren't working.

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Snoke will scuttle out from the shadows in a scene and reveal that he’s now affixed to mechanical spider legs and he’s about to explain his origin and motivations and Rey’s parentage and then Rey cuts his fucking head off before he can finish a second word

Porgs were unironically one of the few good parts of TLJ.

Honestly, I don't think anything will be retconned. The easiest would be Rey's parentage (they could just say Kylo was lying to bring her to the dark side) even though that was one of the things in TLJ I genuinely liked. I could also see them flat out ignoring whatever Johnson was trying to set up by showing the random kid using the Force at the end.

It's owned by a jew now and all the top execs are jewish you fucking retard. Don't you dare dishonor Costanza with your shit

THERE

ARE

RUSSIAN

SHILLS

ITT

STAR WARS HAS ALWAYS BEEN SEEN AS AMERICAN PROPAGANDA, AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN ATTACKED BY RUSSIAN PROPAGANDISTS

PART OF THE ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGN IS TO MAKE AMERICANS FEEL PERSECUTED AND ABUSED BY THEIR CULTURE/SOCIETY/ENTERTAINMENT.

BY ENCOURAGING AND REWARDING CHILDREN TO EMBRACE CRAZY CONSPIRACIES THAT MAKE THEM FEEL ATTACKED BY THEIR SOCIETY, IT INCREASES THE NUMBER OF ANGRY, DISAFFECTED, AND IRRATIONAL SELF-DESTRUCTIVE ROOTLESS ASSHOLES TAKING ACTIVE MEASURES AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

THIS IS NOT A STATEMENT IN DEFENSE OF DISNEY OR STAR WARS OR ANY OTHER CHILDREN'S ENTERTAINMENT THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY AND ACTIVELY HAPPENING. THEY ARE LIKELY INTERNET RESEARCH AGENCY EMPLOYEES. DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH THAT INFORMATION, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR GOAL IS TO MAKE YOUR LIFE WORSE AND ENCOURAGE YOU TOWARDS SELF-DESTRUCTION.

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>but if some fag is at a certain planet on a certain planet
wew.
Certain planet at a certain date

>They took a Marvel approach to things

Except they didn't follow the Marvel Model at all. Marvel carefully adapted the stories and characters from the comics, cutting away the superfluous bits and making it appealing to general audience *while remaining the core elements that the core fanbase enjoys*. The core fanbase of the comics was rewarded for their knowledge and felt served by the films.

Star Wars discarded the EU completely. Anything they retain (like the mission to steal the Death Star plans) got changed to the point of unrecognizability. It was as if they deliberately went out of their way *not* to service the longtime fanbase. Familiar characters are humiliated and killed off to make room for Nu-wars shit. Imagine if the Marvel movies just killed off hlthe classic comic heroes just so they could include more original cinematic-universe-only characters.

Besides this, there is the obvious and bizarre blundering nature of the Disney era production. No overarching plot or themes being retained. Directors and writers being dismissed and brought back randomly. Actors like Mark Hamill being ignored. Lucas excluded from collaborating, only to have his ideas aired and mocked by click bait articles as damage control for VIII (imagine if the Marvel camp was so disrespectful to Stan Lee).

Hey look, it's that Disney shill upset that his cover was blown.

>IT'S JUST A LITTLE UNDERPERFORMING
>IT'S STILL GOOD, IT'S STILL GOOD
>IT'S JUST A LITTLE RETCONNED
>IT'S STILL GOOD, IT'S STILL GOOD

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Fuck of back to /pol/ ,nigger

Probably won't be anything noteworthy since that would confuse the fuck out of audiences.

Also, I liked The Last Jedi. In my opinion it was a very good movie and I watching it fills me with joy. This is not bait. Fuck literally all of Yea Forums.

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You KNOW it's him.

user, I...

This goes against everything the Jedi stand for

The entire star wars saga from episode 1 to 9 has been chewbacca dreaming.
This is why he's the only character who is in every movie apart from the droids.

>do you have sources
>yeah bro my uncle at nintendo said..

Finally the Jewdi will become the woman she was always meant to be. Lukina will be reborn to have le loving relationship with Admiral Dildo who didn't die crashing into the Star Destroyer because #theforceisfemale!

I think you're misunderstanding me. By "Marvel approach," I mean they didn't tackle things from a straight, linear, trilogy-like manner. Look at Marvel Phase 1. A couple Iron Mans. That weird Hulk nobody remembers. Thor and Cap. THEN you got Avengers.

Disney got greedy. They didn't want a rock solid base with a VII, VIII, and IX. They wanted that, PLUS spin offs. If Marvel could have 2-3 movies a year, why couldn't they? Which led to the disastrous production, where you had things like Rogue One and Solo being almost entirely reshot.

I theorize the reason they're so defensive about Rian is that, regardless of the product he made, he ran a tight ship and kept the executives happy.

Threads are being monitored and IPs are being collected.

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Impersonating the FBI isn't a good idea, shill.

I don’t believe that user’s Luke fantasy, but do you genuinely believe the Mouse knows or cares about the Jedi outside of laser swords and robes?

Cool story, Maynard.

>I theorize the reason they're so defensive about Rian is that, regardless of the product he made, he ran a tight ship and kept the executives happy.

It's not far off from the rumor suggested in . Although instead of executives, I'd say just Lucasfilm.

>laser swords
Ugh, I fucking hate that even though they did use it in the prequels, it always takes me out of the mood, the suspension of disbelief. Please call them lightsabers.

>The entire star wars saga from episode 1 to 9 has been chewbacca dreaming.
Haha that reminds me of Lucas' real plan for the saga-it is revealed that R2-D2 and C-3PO have been telling the entire tale from their point of view, so we will never actually know what really happened. I think that's great.

In the prequels it is at least a 10 year old slave who probably doesn't know the real name.

I did misunderstand.
I see your point and agree. They shouldn't have attempted that approach. Simply doing a tight sequel trilogy would have been more appropriate.

Then take a break from trilogy movies and start getting creative with Story films and tv stuff.

>I theorize the reason they're so defensive about Rian is that, regardless of the product he made, he ran a tight ship and kept the executives happy.
He seems to have had a close relationship with Kennedy and her loyalists. While JJ Abrams (cursed be his name) seemed more buddy buddy with his fellow tribal, Bob Iger (who supervised production on-set, at various points of EpVII)

This poster is a paid Russian agent of influence.

They are posting from St. Petersburg, Russia. And admitted to being Russian in another thread where they spammed the same propaganda and messaging strategy.

They do not fully know the language. You'll find them attacking anyone not towing the line with the same copy-pasted attacks.

They were also likely the primary engine behind the "box office conspiracy" messaging about Captain Marvel. They are bad faith actors trying to radicalize children towards self-destruction.

I seem to remember adults saying it too, but even if that's wrong, the went ahead and used the term again in Nu Wars.

In fact, it's freaking Luke that says it in TLJ. You can make the argument that it doesn't count, though and you'd be right.

Yeah its much better writing when everyone is related. Its why VC Andrews is such a great author

What if someone is born on a certain day to uncertain parents?

I seem to remember adults saying it too, but even if that's wrong, they went ahead and used the term again in Nu Wars.

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Yeah and George ONLY calls them lazer swords in the Episode 1 BTS doc. It wasn't retard Anakin it was retard Lucas.

Then they don't know the parents, and that is a mutable point. Everything else they describe objectively is not.

why do people care so much about rey's parents? Is it going to be some sort of darth varder/luke reveal or some shit?

There are two camps.
One is under the delusion that her parentage would explain her bullshit. It wouldn't, but it might make it an easier pill to swallow.

The second recognises that it was a clear plot point even despite the mystery box, and pissing it away like Rian did for the sake of "subversion" is simply shit writing, and ironically just as pandering as if they'd had her be related to an established character.

This. Tlj was a mistake

it already is. this was the opportunity to reboot it, they failed. no amount of retcon magic will help now

this is the only possible way to salvage the show
just pick up where the force awakens ended and make two more movies and pretend the last jedi never happened
or even better start from scratch
or make a pre-prequels trilogy during the Jedi Sith wars (the kinoest option)

What if you were Daisy's personal assistant and she pissed herself and she forced you to clean her pissed feet with your hands?

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Video tape the encounter and then sue her for emotional rape and get free bucks.

Based and 100% true. Literally anybody who hates TLJ is a russian shillbot hacker.

since when did russians start caring bout star wars?

>tfa killed han
Good, wish they would gave killed leia in tlj.

Jews bought the company and all the intellectual properties with their blood gold and blood diamonds and blood money.

I'm not a huge fan of either character but its a retarded move to bring them back only to kill them off

How is she so fucking perfect looking?? You know a woman is beautiful if you dream about her non sexually and dream about kissing her and holding her hand, brushing your hand across her face, and through her hair, etc.

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Well it‘s not stupid. They played huge roles in the og. But relying all the time
on them would be stupid. That would kill all the relevance of the new cast. So take them, have the audience have a small moment nostalgia and then kill
them off.

>woman hated the guy, who directed the first movie
> so let‘s kill everything it did and start from zero, doesn‘t matter if it makes sense or not. Just kill all plot points because fuck jj. What do you mean this is star wars and we should grow up? Stop beeing sexist you incel

Slowly I really begin to hate woman

Imagine her most intimate fumes permeating your nostrils and watching her wake up early in the morning... nggggggg

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this desu

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so you acknowledge that they were brought back as a fucking gimmick. that's not good story telling, pleb.

>Rian Johnson fine with retcons
Like that fucking hack has a choice. He's probably just not burning that bridge in hopes of getting a directing gig for some of their streaming shows

>but its a retarded move to bring them back only to kill them off
It's manipulative and dishonest

>still watching (((Star Wars)))
Why?

>Star Wars fans may be anticipating official Star Wars: Episode IX news at this year’s Star Wars Celebration, but it looks like rumors about the third and final film in the sequel trilogy continue making the rounds online. One of the latest leaks taken from Episode IX adds to the hopes of those shipping Rey (Daisy Ridley) and Kylo Ren (Adam Driver) together – a pairing who’s popularity has increased since Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Not only that but the leak also potentially reveals a horrifying new character going by the name “The Oracle,” a terrifying beast that might fit more in a horror movie than a Star Wars entry.

According to a leak by Redditor u/JediPaxis (a moderator of the Star Wars Leaks subreddit who has shared accurate information in the past), a “trusted” source says that Kylo Ren will continue to struggle in choosing between the Light and Dark Side in Episode IX. The new Supreme Leader of the First Order is also aware of how he is in “love” with Rey, and according to the source, Kylo Ren will attempt at fixing their relationship in the movie.
>fixing their relationship in the movie.

They're raping SW's corpse.

>be pure girl
>be perfect
>meet Han Solo
>be sad when he dies
>be mad at the guy that did it for 45 minutes
>be wet for him now

God, I hate the people at Disney. If you fuckers do this I will NEVER watch another SW film or any other Disney film. This makes me legit angry. Fuck nu wars. Bad is good, good is bad, fuck you.

And if they end up being brother and sister, fuck you again. Not everyone has to be related OR redeemable, you unoriginal twits.

We're never going to stop bashing TLJ.

>history is full of retcons

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He's got a point, I mean, some people even believe that Hitler was a bad guy.

When's the porn parody coming out?

I've never enjoyed hating a movie as much as I enjoy hating TLJ. I can't even explain it.

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I understand and agree, user.

I liked TLJ

We know, Rian. Pumpkin face asshole.

t. salty cucks

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kys shill

I'm not a shill and you're not a true SW fan hating on TLJ. You're just an ugly, angry cuck who is mad your "pure waifu" is getting pounded by the Chad bad guy instead of your ugly manlet self-inserts.

Stop hiding behind The Last Jedi hate just because you don't like a fictional romantic relationship. Everyone can tell you're just a cuck because you're the only ones who complain about Reylo.

I wish they retconned my fucking existence so i wouldn't have to see this abomination.

>I'm not a shill
lol Sure you're not, pile o' logs and you got BTFO in the other thread.

>trying to unfuck your SJW "star wars"
Nope.

>your "pure waifu" is getting pounded by the Chad bad guy
Projection of your dykey fantasies, bitch. At any rate, having her fall in love with a genocidal madman is beyond the pale for Star Wars.

they already established that he's fucking that La Creatura named Rose

His look of disgust almost matched mine when her ugly face kissed his chimpy visage.

*Rose is ugly in TLJ...she may be ok to look at in real life, but they intentionally made Rose an ugly annoying social justice warrior. So having her kiss Finn is like watching garbage meeting diarrhea.

As if they aren't just going to have her tell him to fuck off and then do tons of interviews calling him a toxic white male to make Twitter happy.

Better be..

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look at his profile lmao

idc lol

A white liberal who reads "woke" sassy black female political tweets on Reddit all day and doesn't realize it's dumbing him down

At least that would make some sense in the "story". The sequels are just vehicles for Rey's greatness anyway. She's the über-Jedi-Sith-LGBTQLMNOPXYZ Kwisatz Haderach, which is ironic since Lucas lifted Dune from Herbert. Tatooine is literally Arrakis.

Perfect and nausea-pilled.

>Grandpa, why did you help Putin overthrow the American government back in Civil War II?

>Because Star Wars Episode 8 fucking sucked, son
>And I was angry as hell about it

It's a Morrowind reference.

Rey is actually related to Obi Wan

>execute Rose for being a fucking moron
Nah for being an imperial spy, makes the choices she made a lot more sense

The whole sequel needs to be scrapped and redone. Let's not kid ourselves, TFA was in some ways worse than TLJ

They killed off Han because Harrison wanted Han dead since Return of the Jedi and they knew he probably wouldn't return for another film.

>but it set things up for a new trilogy really well

No it didn't. Typical JJ mystery boxes he had no plans on explaining.

>Wendig is a Holocaust denier
Holy shit, what a timeline!

t. schizo cuck

Take your meds.

>having her fall in love with a genocidal madman is beyond the pale for Star Wars

This is how it's obvious you are not a SW fan. Luke loved his genocidal father, Padme fell in love with Anakin and still loved him despite him murdering people and killing her. Her love was never portrayed as bad, just Anakin's actions.

Kylo is nowhere near as bad as Anakin. You cuck incel/SJW allies can cry all you want, Rey will never fuck you or your ugly good guy self-inserts. Go back to plebbit

>PART OF THE ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGN IS TO MAKE AMERICANS FEEL PERSECUTED AND ABUSED BY THEIR CULTURE/SOCIETY/ENTERTAINMENT.
So... TLJ is Russian Propaganda?

This

Keep dreaming. Daisy Ridley literally said Kylo was redeemable in an interview when some SJW interviewer tried to tell her he wasn't.

That woudln't make sense at all. Kylo Ren is the center of the story, Rey is his waifu. Stay mad.

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Don’t care. They ruined Luke and killed him off forever.

>hyperspeed ramming was a fluke that shouldn't have worked, hence why they'll never try it again
>the force skype calls between rey and kylo were only possible due to a perfect star alignment allowing them to telepathically connect across vast distances without technology. this will likely never happen again in anyone else's lifetime
>finn is actually asexual and he'll dump rose, thus writing that stupid as fuck character out of the movie
>the jedi texts were recorded in C3PO's memory and locked away somewhere. this would fall in line with the leaks and give a strong motivation for both rey and kylo to race for its recovery since whoever owns those texts could become the most powerful force user in the galaxy
>leia's superwoman moment drained most of her life energy away, so although she survived the attack, she will die of fatigue and space radiation within a few weeks of the event

The story is about Kylo Ren and Reylo, not "ugly manlets in space".

Get over it losers.

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this oh so much this

well, Finn is so ugly too in fact his ugliness killed SW in China. Everyone knows this.

I need him to die

Hopefully it will be showing Luke Skywalker as Luke Skywalker and not a cowardly asshole for Kathleen Kennedy's self-insert to smack around.

But I'm guessing nothing worthwhile will be changed. JJ and Lucasfilm are all about tricking the audience. Obviously there will be changes to the direction of the story, but that's because it doesn't HAVE a fucking direction right now. But if anyone is stupid enough to go into the theater thinking JJ plans on righting all of the wrongs from TLJ deserves what they get. Another goddamn SJW toy commercial with a plot so fucking stupid Disney will have hire a small army to call people sexist again.

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>Daisy talks about how wonderful it is that Rey believed in Kylo and saw the glimmer of good in him
>interview tries to say he might be irredeemable
>I DONT THINK SO HE IS REDEEMABLE REEE *proceeds to go on tirade about how Kylo helped Rey and thinks he's doing the right thing*

Yeah, don't hold your breath on that one cuck. Reylo is endgame.

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Ok, nigger.

ACKTHUALLY
Snoke was the one connecting Kylo and Rey.
Rey took the Jedi texts and stashed them on the Falcon.

(((You))) killed it alright

ITT: virgins and propagandists

Why would you start making a trilogy without knowing what to do with it? This shit seriously baffles me to no end, who just goes "fuck it yolo we'll make shit up as we go" when it comes to a billion dollar franchise?

>Retconning retcons

Could have easily been avoided, I concluded that these asshats at Disney are rendered incapable of making decisions via corperare beurocratic malaise

I know. its baffling. thats why I find this whole saga so fascinating.

No it did, it set up the villain as being flawed and likely anredemption arc

It set up Rey as being a continuation or the Jedi and sky walkers or some version of

It set up a mystery to Rey’s backstory

It established a post og world that wasn’t quite what the original heroes had intended

And the rain Johnson Laid a big shit on everything cause LMAO

>Nah for being an imperial spy
The empire is smart enough to make one of their spies act like an idiot and love stricken retard. They deserve to win

this

>. Kylo Ren is the center of the story, Rey is his waifu.
So if you remade the originals would you have Leia fall in love with Tarkin after he had her foster parents and everyone she knew killed?

^found the Disney shill
Keep using that boilerplate as it makes it easy to identify you.

Really, Disney fuckers, if you make them fall in love, Star Wars is done. Done motherfuckers.

I've said this before, but they should just make it so that the sequels were all a fever dream that Rey had

Episode 7 should have been jedi academy and followed the games. That made way more sense than The shit we got.

George is using JJ as a proxy.

>3DPD
>Waifu

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FPBP as usual.

The world has moved on from Star Wars. The lived-in space junk aesthetic should have been left in the 70/80s.

Marvel movies have surpassed it in every aspect besides its score.

who couldn't love this qt?

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The entire fucking movie

the marvel movies are trash

Marvel movies are all formulaic pieces of garbage that are responsible for movies today not being able to follow a serious plot without adding shitty humor.

I love the romance aspect of it and I think it's the only thing that felt like a star wars movie. The last jedi is shit though and it did have a lot of missteps

True Star Wars fans think TLJ is shit.

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I can't believe there are people on this board who actually think Marvel movies are of any value.

Imagine the smell.

>I can't believe there are people on this board who actually think Marvel movies are of any value.

I haven't seen one of them, brother.

The manchild spent the better part of a year trying to defend his shitshow and now that it's inevitable that JJ is going to have to retcon his turd to make anything competent, even by his standards, Johnson is now having to publicly say that's alright to save face.
This is delicious and it couldn't have happened to a bigger piece of crap.
Congrats everyone. We won

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FPBP
/thread

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youtube.com/watch?v=9Ugp8F7KefE

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>"I bypassed the dental hygienist."

"Those horse lips and flat chest.... They belong to me"

Rey shot Holdo out of her vagina like a Force ping pong ball.
>take that patriarchy

So why doesn't it feel like we won :'(

Anybody who disagrees with this should be put to death
Kill this user

Rose.

I hope they execute her.

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>6 gorillion

It is, and even that had obvious studio meddling in the storyline. I’d have rather seen a whole movie about Forest Whitaker’s character Tbh.

Pyrrhus of Epirus lost so many men defeating the Romans, that he was undone.

We might have convinced the world that Episode VIII was bad, but we still stride among the ruins of a once beloved franchise.

the only correct answer

KEK

checked

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>when the first two movies are so horrible you die to escape the contract making you do a third
hilarious

>2019
>hes still defending his trash heap on Twitter

>Mikey Neumann of Aliens: Colonial Marines fame

Snoked survived.

This. One going through the middle of his face instead on the cliche "over the eye" was badass. Fuck the soiboy for saying it looked "goofy".

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Because, at the end of the day, the Mouse still owns Star Wars.

Han is still alive, but he's been in hiding.

The most interesting thing in TFA was the Scottish space pirates.
The rest was regurgitated shite

She'll be killed off next,
Whites are so 2010s.
Star wars is going fully multicultural into the future

A part of me is hoping for Rey's parents being reconned in some way, although I'm not sure how it will work, and it undermines what little character development she went through in TLJ. It would be perfect since Kylo didn't sound too convincing when he told her. It's plausible that he was manipulating her. Either way, I just hope it explains some connection to Anakin or Luke. Seems like it shouldn't have been renamed the Skywalker saga if the main character isn't a Skywalker. Even a "born of the Force" explanation would be interesting. Rey is Anakin's sister, in a way. Hell, even her taking the surname of Skywalker in a dedication to Luke would be cool.

plot twist: It's Luke pretending to be Han to troll Ben.

Why is this allowed? Apologizing doesn't forgive your actions

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Seems kinda pointless to follow one twist immediately with another twist that undoes it... which I can't deny would be absolutely what Abrams and Johnson are about.

Every thing that is completely retarded, hopefully.
So i guess the whole episode.

I just wanted to like the movies, man.

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>shitty comparison that doesn't even work

Try harder.

Ben Solo is the son of the previous heroes. He is the Skywalker in the Skywalker story. He killed his own dad, not Rey's.

Rey didn't have a family and was all alone, Ben understands her. She should have been wit him from the start, but that wouldn't work because her purpose is to help him so she had to stay on the Light Side instead of helping in in the Dark.

Your comparison is more akin to Hux and Rey falling in love which will never happen. Stay mad cuck

TFA introduced the worst characters in the nu-franchise so far a.k.a. Rey and Finn, so yeah, it's pretty much automatically worse than TLJ that only introduced rose as a continuing character.

The original unaltered trilogy is the only way to watch these. It would be neat to see Hayden return for a cameo in IX, but the ROTJ ending is the only problem I'd have with it.

t. schizo cuck

They already fell in love. Buh-bye virgin autist.

id rather see another movie about bunnyfu

Anything about Luke

The entire sequel trilogy will be revealed to be Finn daydreaming what life would be like if he wasn't a stormtrooper, we will pan over to see he has just shot and killed Rey.

No matter what twitter screaching retards tell you Uncle Remus was about racial reconciliation written by a progressive and Walt wouldn't have those stories counted among his favorites were he a nazi.
Of course anyone from 60 years ago would be a nazi by twitter retard standards so I guess in a way you're still right.

I'm not defending The Last Jedi as a whole. I'm just saying that anti-Reylos don't care about Star Wars, they try to larp as TLJ haters to fit in when really they are just pathetic cucks. It's clear they aren't real Star Wars fans, because their complaints against Reylo are something a SJW would say. Reylo is one of the most Star Wars things about the ST.

Just look at this cuck trying to fit in right here
You can hate TLJ and still like Reylo. But you are a dumb ugly cuck. Go back to plebbit and cry about how John Boyega isn't popular because he's fucking ugly.

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Oh look, a disney employee is here.
Let's all point and laugh at the disney employee.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA H
This is what you chose to do with your life.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha HA HA HAH AHA HA HA

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>intentionally gaslighting your entire fanbase
Real receipe for success you got there disney

>be white supremacist literal nazi mass murderer
>stronk woman protagonists rewards him for his badness with access to her vagina

Yeah that figures.

>unironically believeing in the russian boogieman
Is it 2017 again?

>muh reylo
OHNONONONONO

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das rite!

The stinky, smelly scavenger belongs to Ben!

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>THIS is a 10/10 Aryan specimen according to white people

>durr le badass

His scar is attractive because he's the attractive Chad love interest. That's why he has a shirtless scene to show it running down his chest.

They aren't going to give him a monstrous scar to be "le badass" because he's a protagonist in his own right, not Vader 2.0

Why?

t. cuck

>be white supremacist nazi mass murdere
>cut off son's hands
>murder children
>blow up daughter's home planet in front of her
>son still believes in him and redeems him in the end

Again, you are not a SW fans. You are a incel cuck who is so pathetic you have to hide behind SJW arguments and larp as a TLJ hater just so you can try and hate on a fictional relationship because women don't want to fuck you IRL.

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This is a new level of skitzoposting

Isnt it a federal crime to impersonate the fbi?

JJ is the OG Reylo. Keep crying Finncel. He also made Rey friendzone Finn explicitly at the end of the TFA. There is nothing to "achieve" there, because he killed any chance of romance when he did that.

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not him but Anakin went through some serious shit and while that doesn't condone his behavior it certainly explains some of it. Why exactly did Kylo turn to the Dark Side again?

Luke didn't fuck darth vader you retard.

Luke had also established himself as a good character and darth vader as a fallen hero. Kylo ren and Rey are both not depicted as good people.

TLJ fucking sucked. Nu wars sucked. It's hilarious that "feminism warz" is going to make Rey fuck a murderer. lol.

>Isnt it a federal crime to impersonate the fbi?
Yup.

JJ should have directed the whole trilogy.

He should have directed the toilet onto his face

The throne room scene where Kylo says "please." was unironiclly kino, Rey could have saved the movie right there by saying yes, too bad.

JJ shouldn't direct anything. He had no plan. He has no ideas,

t. braindead shill

t. boilerplate NPC shill

I think that's what some people don't realize about Rey's character. People want her to go Dark Side, but that would never work for this story because it completely goes against her purpose. Her purpose is to help Ben to find balance and she can't do that if she's skipping around the Dark Side.

When people realize that her purpose is to be a guiding light/plot device/motivator in Ben's story, it makes sense why she's immune to the Dark.

I'm not saying that makes her a good character, just that her going Dark is not the story they are trying to tell. She's still boring as fuck and is only good for self-inserting for Reylo.

If you turn your brain off, the first act of TFA is great and full of nostalgia. But nostalgia is one of the big problems. Not that I expect an elitst studio director who chooses film over digital, which has absolutely surpassed film even in dynamic range, to understand why that’s a bad thing.

People shit on the prequels, myself included, but the prequels did a lot of great things these sequels have not even come close to. Even when I hated the prequels I remembered everything that happened while with the sequels are forgettable.

30+ years later and... X-Wings and Tie Fighters? The OT even introduced new ships. The prequels gave us an even better ship evolution showing predecessors to what were in the OT.

jj is a hack. kys pleb.

fuckin A. stay home and play sim city 4.

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He should direct the whole thing.
It's like you people enjoy eating shit.

>Rey is not depicted as a good person

Yes she is.

>Kylo Ren is not depicted as a good person

In his very first scene, he shows compassion for Finn. He is depicted as a conflicted person and it is later explored that he is a victim in his own right who wants to do the right thing.

>Luke didn't fuck darth vader

So? He still loved his father. Just like how Rey loves Ben. Rey isn't going to save her virginity for your ugly good guy self-insert. Women don't fuck men because they "deserve their pussy" They fuck men they are attracted to and in love with. Like how Padme fucked Anakin even after knowing he murdered sand people. Stay mad virgin cuck.

I'm really happy that Episode VIII exists because it made me realize that I've honestly never really liked Star Wars and it was just hype.

WRONG. There was a plan. Rian (with KK's blessing) threw it in the trash.

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Nah. Rian did kino stuff with Kylo and Reylo. I don't think JJ could have pulled all that off. In fact, him bringing back Kylo's mask is already a huge blunder. The only thing I expect from him is to make Reylo endgame. It's all he's good for.

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>durr le badass
Can you not be a faggot retard by mocking me, then typing out some irrelevant drivel like an autistic dolt?

Kylo is too good for this this franchise.
not even memeing.

>In his very first scene, he shows compassion for Finn.
Nigga what?

So much for having a story group.

series ends with them traveling into the past and giving birth to anakin's mom on tatooine

This argument is invalid in the first place because the audience was not given insight into Anakin's fall when the OT was released. If you compare OT to ST, Ben Solo is portrayed completely differently than Darth Vader is. So again, all your arguments are dead on arrival.

Those sandniggers kidnapped, raped and murdered his mother.

t. schizo cuck

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Oh God I hope so.

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lol Star Wars Lego is ending this year.

This doesn’t bother me anymore. I actually prefer Hayden over Sebastian Shaw since Hayden IS Anakin and Shaw looks nothing like him. The original trilogy doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It makes more sense for SW virgins watching in episode order. OT fans don’t like episode order because it ruins the “I am your father” but instead you have Palpatine is Sidous raise (alluded to but not obvious if you never saw RotJ) as well as that little kid becoming Darth Vader.

That alteration is 15 years old. In seven years it will have outlived Shaw-as-Anakin. We’ve already been stuck with special editions since 1997 longer than the unaltered versions. Wish Has shot first though. And R2 didn’t hide behind a stupid rock he couldn’t have gotten through anyways.

That license expires in 2022. They’ll probably extend it again

>It makes more sense for SW virgins watching in episode order.
Unless the person is a young child, I seriously doubt that they're going to sit through PTM or AotC, let alone make it to the ANH. The prequels are shit films, no matter how contrarian you want to be.

Degenerate pic

t. degenerate virgin

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He senses Finn's hesitation to kill people and let's it slide.

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It's also important context to note that Kylo never agreed with Hux's child soldier program and wanted to use clone's instead.

There was never a plan.
All Abrams did was throw a huge ass weapon in, and destroy it by giving the group of misfits an easy win button they could push.
He use the same formula in both of his Star Trek firms.
He will use it again in the next Star Wars film.

This.

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The Starkiller was background shit to Rey and Kylo. Disney is the one that wanted things safe with X-Wings and TIE Fighters.

Rule of 3 dictates she has to finally accept his offer in Episode IX. So there's that at least.

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Why is Kylo Ren considered “really evil” anyways? He killed Lor San Tekka and Han. That’s it. Other than that he just walks around.

Why did Kylo kill Snoke?

He's Bad because he's part of the FO. The opening crawls have informed us that the FO are Bad, and they wear the Bad clothing. They also act angry and get defeated every Saturday morning by the angry people in Good clothing. Personally, I find this exciting.