Why isn't this hailed as the best film in history?

Aztec rituals, not Mayan. Huge, huge mistake. It's like making crusaders movie and mistaking Christian with Islamist rituals.

They mixed up the Maya with the Aztecs.

>Many of the rituals shown had falled out of fashion by the time Spanish contact was made,
You're talking about "rituals" in plural. I don't know what you mean. But mayans practiced human sacrifice right up to the last minute before the spaniards showed up.

I mean the way they were cutting hearts out on top of the pyramid, this was accurate right down to the blue paint and the type of knife used. The contest where they let the main characters run and shot at them with arrows, also a documented ritual way to give a human sacrifice.

Weren't the Mayans gone by the time the Spaniards appeared? The Spaniards faced the Aztecs, not the Mayans.

but they were Aztecs

The Mayans were conquered by Aztecs and absorbed into their empire. A huge number of Mayan natives actually sided with the Spanish in their fight against Aztecs, because the Aztecs were brutal assholes to everyone, something modern history classes like to gloss over.

It was 10/10 kino, and I'm a Mexican, but I don't care about the mistakes. I can give a pass to Uncle Mel.

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Ok you hear that everyone, we got a Mexican to give his stamp of approval, we can officially recognize it as kino now. Thanks Mexican.

>Same as Carpenter's Thing
My mom loves that movie. I know anecdotic examples don't count for much, but exceptions exist

The Mayans still exist.

And they faced the Spaniards as well.

Read the stories of La Malinche, Gerónimo de Aguilar and Gonzalo Guerrero. It's a fascinating tale.

>tfw it’s out of print

>The Mayans were conquered by Aztecs and absorbed into their empire.
Yeah, but not all the Mayans.

There's no need to be a bitch about it, bro. Just saying. Have a nice day :D

My mom hates that movie, she thinks it's disgusting. But apparently my dad took her to that as their first date, so it can't have been that awful to her.

maricon

Mexicans aren't mayans, your opinion is worthless

>But apparently my dad took her to that as their first date
Absolute madman.

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La Malinche was an Aztec woman.

Drive is the best film in history.

muerdealmohadas

Based dad

Stupid analysis holy fuck you are parroting the video that some faggot brit youtuber made than can easily be shot down. Guess what, the Mayans also sacrificed people, if you disagree you are wrong. This allows for suspension of disbelief. Speaking of which, few films are more engrossing and authentic as Apocalypto. Its not hard to imagine this being some isolated late Post Classic/early contact Maya city state. Sure its a bit big and resembles a city far larger, but it isnt a glaring mistake, this thing isnt trying to depict an exact place and time, its just trying to bring back some level of the society, which it does well, with native actors speaking near dead languages. Only idiots think it has “glaring mistakes” and are often uncomfortable because Apocalypto is unflinching in its depictions of native life, which despite us being told is like a bunch of people chilling and gathering acorns all day and shit, is actually filled with genocide, violence, and unromantic tribalism. I actually use Apocalypto as a sort of litmus test for people, if they like it than I know they probably appreciate other kino too.

They lived here, though, so I know about them better than some Anglocuck who sucks dicks every Thursday like yourself.

Yes, but she was sold as a slave to the Mayans. There she became bilingual in Nahuatl and Mayan

Gerónimo de Aguilar was a castaway priest that was captured by the Mayans, and spent 8 years with them. Learning their language. Hernán Cortés found him.

In his conquest, after a fight with the Maya, Cortés became the Malinche's new owner. And later, through Aguirre and Malinche, he was able to communicate with the Aztecs, through a triple translation.

Mayan sacrifices were marginal. They didn't slaughter masses.

Also, don't forget the child sacrifices.

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>Aztec asethics, rituals, weaponry, etc.
>But in Maya
Gibson is a fucking retard

Better version, sorry.

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>Mel Gibson in charge of historical accuracy
*charging marine spraying a BAR one-handed, killing five japs while shielding himself from bullets with a human torso in the other hand and dodging mortar explosions that happen two feet away.mkv starts playing*

The Mayans were gone for hundreds of years before that time, retard. Stop trying to act like you know things that you clearly dont

It's top 20 material easy.

It's also one of the few dozen or so films that the board is pretty unanimous on.

It's not stupid analysis. It's history classes tier question. To compare X with Y.

Ronaldinho was amazing on this movie... Great acting and it was his debut film.

>The Mayans were gone for hundreds of years before that time

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the main dude was filipino, not even aztec-blooded lmao good movie tho

Some other stuff they did was priest would live all their lives on pyramids because it made them live longer. They could not step on natural ground or they would lose their energy. Corn seeds would be placed on the pyramids for a season and people would pay taxes to the priest since they believed if the seeds were on the pyramids they would grow better. It was common for people to travel far to take a pilgrimage to pyramids to get some pyramid seeds.

imagine giving a shit about historical accuracy in evocative primal/spiritual films. watch a documentary fedora fag

The structure is honestly pretty amazing. It's so cleanly done.

Within the first 30 minutes we know every main character, their traits, and their relationship to one another while also foreshadowing what our protag is going to do. In between we get exactly the waining state of the Mayan civilization, all leading up to the main feature and what's probably the best chase scene put to film, and then BAM. Fucking amazing ending that nobody could call.

It's a master stroke by based Mel.

‘Fried Green Tomatoes’ is a lesbian flick, not a “female” “chick” flick.

these modern day ancient mexicans are low iq retards but 100x smarter than abos. how does that make sense?

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God damn I wonder what the explorers thought of all this crazy shit when they arrived?

it's just a retarded scene even if you don't think about historical accuracy, no need to defend it.

native americans are literally east asians, bro. they aren't retards. they fucking invented dental hygiene, the number zero (at the same time as other civs in other continents, though), etc.

>and then BAM.
you have to be above 18 to post here

what a second, this film came out in 2006.
Assuming they boned that night, you could only be at most 12 years old.

Retard.

I don't remember anything about it except for the naked tribal lolis

the plot is totally non-existent

Stop drinking

Still don't got that trip I see.

>The Thing came out in 2006

>watching for the plot
Pleb detected.

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so why are they so stupid today and only good at making cocaine?

the spanish happened. we can only guess what could've been.

I don't drink though. Can't stand the taste of alcohol.
The whole movie is just a blank to me. It's weird.

>Assuming they boned that night, you could only be at most 12 years old
based and virile dad

>native americans are literally east asians, bro

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My mom loves The Thing too. She’s also excited for king of the monsters. It was nice being raised by kinosseurs. Zoomers would never understand.

they came to the americas from east asia via the bering strait

thanks for the blog. reflecting on what you posted. look forward to the discussion

Are you pretending to be stupid?

thanks

t. Chris Chan

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Because of Jews

i loved how it showed the useless city people with their bizarre fashion fetishes that just look like alien garbage

Oh the irony

I'm kinda amazed it took this long for someone to post something like this.

That doesn't make them Asian, just like Europeans or Arabs or Asians aren't Africans just because their ancestors came from there.
Fucking embarrassing, we need an edit of that MUH ANCESTORS pic with a chicano looking at a samurai

>"That doesn't make them Asian, just like Europeans or Arabs or Asians aren't Africans just because their ancestors came from there."
>believing the Out of Africa bullshit theory

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IT'S A FUCKING MOVIE ABOUT DARKIE WIZARDS MADE FOR CHILDREN GET OVER IT

say what you want, but these guys had top aesthetics. Imagine being killed by a pajama warrior. The movie was so forgettable though so I don't remember if they had anything like this in it.
The movie really is a black(green really) hole in my memory and I know I'm not the only one. I remember the ending and the heart sacrifice and a whole bunch of running.

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This.

Based retard

those obsidian swords look harmless but in truth they were fucking brutal

well if it happened only 15,000 years ago with no subsequent mixing, they would be genetically pretty close, no? If the out of Africa theory is true, it happened millions of years ago so it's a different case.
Actually I might be talking total shit and the timelines are way different.

dude the priest looks like a wizard! wtf

Different time lines, though. Asians and Native Americas are more closely related. In fact, some DNA analysis could become troublesome while attempting to determine which is which.

Complaining about the historical accuracy is missing the point of the movie. It is aiming to be authentic, not accurate.

Its goal is to portray a civilisation that is at its end, brought down by its own decadence and excess. And of course the cities are the main cess pool that spread their poison into the little villages (which would be and will be fine after the downfall).

The Spanish Galleon at the end is only a symbol that the apocalypse has fully arrived.

He wasn't talking about the Carpenter film when he said your mom saw The Thing on their first date.

this British guy fucks

Does he suck too?
What is his name?

Former Lee Charles

easy:

- basically no white people in it
- subtitles
- people avoiding Mel Gibson in any capacity

reasons 1&2 are garbage, and evidence that viewers are pond-scum. reason 3 is kinda deserved, because lots of white ozys are racists idiots.

it is one of the tensest films I've ever seen. one of my favourite chase movies. it's fantastic, and I remember seeing it in theatre very vividly. beautifully shot too. i'll have to re-watch it soon, been many years.

He succ
He fucc
And he also magicc
His name is Alan Moore

thanks for that face for my new reaction meme

>it's pronounced woo

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I mostly just remember 'He's fucked'

>Why isn't this hailed as the best film in history?
several reasons.
1. is youre an alt right pleb who licks Gibson's arse

>thinking this is about politics
Twitter is the other way, mate.

only brainwashed retards from /pol/ would think a Gibson film is best ever

Again with shitty faux-politics? It's not the best film ever, but it's one of the best from this century.

>best of this century
laughable
I remember my first day on /pol/ too

Same thing

Debate me on why it wasn't perfectly acceptable for the Spanish to genocide these subhumans if the first thing they did on first contact was sacrifice the unknown Spanish sailors.

Because only the middle section is good.

15000 years is a decent amount of time for evolution though, Neanderthals only went extinct around 40000 years ago

because the dybbuks hold the monopoly on media

this isn't an account of first contact you dumb fuck

Never been there. I only watch movies and browse Yea Forums. I like Jewish directors. Call me anything you want but not a politicsfag.

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>Never been there.
LMAO

Yea just ignore everything I said after that.

defending yourself this much that you dont lurk /pol/ is just obvious that you do.
stay in school, champ

They are Neo-Mongoloids.

As in fucking Asian.

By DNA analysis do you mean things like "23 and me"? Because I've heard things about them, and apparently they are fairly shit when it comes to accuracy. And this may be my limited knowledge on the matter, but Y-DNA alone does not tell you anything about the actual genetic differences between Siberians/East Asians and native Americans, since it's only one gene, does it?

My mom loves this movie as well as master and commander, i'm proud of her.

>if you defend yourself, you're guilty
>if you don't defend yourself, you're also guilty
MeToo tier mentality. No wonder you bring politics into a film discussion. You must hear all those little noises in your head every day.

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you can like something without getting it. your mom simply has good taste.

>random stay in school champ
Im not even that guy but reading your comments was embarrassing for me

>My mom loves this movie
Are you me? Every time my Mother sees this movie playing on a channel she immediately switches to it and watches no matter what point in the film it is at.
I wonder why they like it so much?

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Moms are great bro.

Our moms are awesome.

fantastic. on your way back to /pol/ then, champ :^)

BMC

Wait what?

Watched it on the big screen back when it came out. Really liked it.
But let me remind you that when it came out was also the time when they tried to bury Mel Gibson because he didn't made his yearly child sacrifice to the great jewgod of moviemaking.
Combine the forced bad publicity with a movie that isn't as easy to digest as capeshit and you have a flop.

look it up on youtube. there is a frame in a scene of where's wally.

>only 65% on RT
what did Jews mean by this

Glad I have my copy

Its depiction of genocide and its dismantling of the fable of the noble savage is highly problematic. In fact we should probably just burn all copies.

Because Mel named the jew

aztecs engaged in human sacrifice, mayans didn't, they engaged in blood/self-multilation rituals and animal sacrifice only, or am I thinking about the zapotecs, fuck it

No one cares lmao

I guess that explains why the cartels are so fucking brutal. It's in their blood.

>fable
the noble savage is in the movie: it's the good guys who live as hunter-gatherers in the forest. the Aztecs are an agricultural civilization who practice genocide.

>apocalypto thread
>history poofters swarm in like fucking hornets to rant about muh accuracy
like clockwork. tarantino was right about youse miserable inbreds.

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Is there any other Aztec/Maya/Incan kink out there?

Yes it is I've just checked. Nobel savage myth is fucking absolute bullshit

>But mayans practiced human sacrifice right up to the last minute before the spaniards showed up.
The mayans were long gone by then you stupid mutt

STOP LARPING AS ME!!! JK, good on you and your moms for recognizing the kino

Gibson is just amazing.

Seething

Not your quoted person, but I know I was pretty bitter about the Spanish and Portuguese growing up. Once I knew more an understood more of what was going on at the same time, I reached your same conclusion. If someone was sacrificing the explorers of my nation, especially since they were kinda the equivalent of modern heroes, I would have obviously agreed to eradicating them. Obviously this also applies to 9/11 and nuking the Arab peninsula and the greater middle east but that's another conversation.

Mel Gibson doesn't get along with the inner circles of Hollywood for some reason

>tfw Based Mel will never direct a new Conan film

>and you have a flop.
It didn't flop.

>half-naked savages run in the jungle for two hours
>the best film in history