We've got to discuss The Sopranos. Here is a question for you. Is Tony Soprano really that unlikable, like this guy below is claiming? I disagree with that, and other assertions on the blog. He seems to have a cognitive dissonance, compared to viewers of the show that I know, and his reasoning is off on other things. Here is a quote from the site:
The old saying is that the protagonist should be likable. That we should want to go out and grab a beer with him and paint our nails and giggle as we rub our genitals together. Put that out of your head. Forget likable. Likable is not a meaningful quality. The audience says that, but they don’t mean it — otherwise, they wouldn’t be interested in the likes of Tony Soprano. Or Don Draper. Or Lisbeth Salander. (It’s harder to pull off an unlikable female protagonist, but that’s because we’re a fucked-up society who embraces flawed men but not flawed women.) Instead of likable, aim for livable. Meaning, we need to find this character compelling enough to live with them for the duration of the tale. I don’t want to get a beer with Lisbeth Salander any more than I want to get a beer with a Bengal tiger. But I’m happy to watch do their thing."
Next up, here's another similar attack on the character of Tony Soprano. What do you think of this one?
Tony is likeable as well as despicable we know he is a terrible person but root for him anyway because we see enough of ourselves in him to let us know he is human after all
Nathan Lee
Tony is likeable because he has views like most people, or because he is social. Like when its carms dads bday. He is normal, gets along great with everyone, then like normal people gets pissed off when the snob acts like a snob. Most everyday people can relate to that and think tony is in the right. Yet at the same time you need to remember he kills people.
Its like when melfi gets raped, everyone was hoping hed find out and fuck up the rapist. He's likeable for some views but hated for some of his life choices and things he does.
How can you not understand that hes basically your everyman. Everyone is basically tony without the mob life. Other than the mob shit how is tony bad. He isnt hes like everyone else
David Morris
Chuck Wendig, man... The other writer isn't any better.
I didn't find Tony 'likable' most of the time. I found him interesting since he had conviction to do the best to his family and business while he had to overcome different obstacles
Evan Butler
this. also /thread How the fucking is OPs question even legit after the Sopranos spawned a gazillion of shows like BB and Peaky Blinders?
Lucas Williams
Tony is morally fine until like S4 or 5. When he started hitting on Adriana I almost stopped watching the show cause it felt like they just turned him into a huge asshole out of nowhere.
Dylan Smith
people like strength and power, whatever they tell themselves
Xavier Perry
>Tony is morally fine until like S4 or 5. edgy
Owen Foster
I had no issues with Tony at all
Justin Perez
>Tony a good boy he dindu nuffin!
Camden Edwards
Come on now. As far as murderous mob leaders go Tony's a big fucking teddy bear. He only fell morally for me when he started resentfully fucking with Christophers sobriety for his own ego. Gets him back on shit, kills him as a result, then celebrates it? All after trying to fuck his woman? The fuck tone?
Kayden Flores
he cheats on his wife, lies constantly to everyone, including himself and is a murderous criminal. Apart from that he's a totally cool dude.
Sebastian Wilson
>he cheats on his wife based and redpilled
Brody Garcia
>acting like a nigger >red pilled nigger
Brody Hughes
what are some scenes you know off by heart?
>can we segue onto something more pressing? >the floor is yours, senator >i spoke to john, the split on the office park is way out of whack >same as the esplanade >apples and bowling balls, tony, with fuel costs these days >like you're not passing those onto the drivers? >65/35
You think fucking the same bitch day after day is "honorable" or something? It's in mens nature to fuck different women, you some kinda low test faggot or something?
Carson Garcia
the fact that melfi didn't tell him about the rapist ruined the show. that could have been so, so good.
Gabriel Young
I do indeed disagree with some of his actions such as killing Ralph or not doing more for Vito or atleast he have someone from his crew kill him as opposed to having Phil stepping over Tony and killing him himself
Jack Sanders
That show is great but it's hard to find a single character that's actually likeable. The Sopranos does a great job of displaying what real mobsters are like. I remember a scene where Tony was contemplating killing Paulie and it just shows how sociopathic these people are. They're ready to kill their close friends over rumors.
Justin James
Honor is a white man's concept, I'm assuming you don't understand. And delaying gratification is what all of civilization has been built on, nigger.
Adam Davis
Tony was a terrible leader though. He was petty and kept on turning on his allies and friends and it bit him in the ass by the end with the war with NY. He had nobody left.
Camden Long
Tony is a sympathetic villain. You want to like him, but you have to keep him at arm's length, so you don't get dragged into his shit, like Artie did, or the guy who owned the sporting goods store.
The reason we like shows like that, is because most of us will never get to see that world.
Alexander Williams
>Honor is a white man's concept >Japanese Culture, Identity, and Civilization is built on it
Liam Lee
I think you are a turbo virgin tbqh
Adam Cruz
It's more to do with the fact that we come to realize he's a tragic character who does everything he does because he deep down never had a chance to be anything else It's not that we justify what Tony does, we simply pity him for not being able to be different. There's much humanity in his character
Alexander Smith
I just finished watching the finale literally a couple of seconds ago and I must say
what the fuck was that
what a shitty ending, it was so anticlimactic and I was expecting Tony to get killed but it never happened
What the flying fuck, did they just run out of material or something? Fuck, that actually annoyed me.
Daniel Bailey
C H A S E D but for real, it's supposed to be left up to you to imagine what happened. you've lived inside the head of a mob boss for six seasons, so of course you think he got whacked- that's what tony would expect. chase pulls you from the simulation in a brutal way, reminding you that you are a passive viewer; your journey with tony is done.
Jaxon Lewis
it just stops right in the middle of it, though. Like we don't even get the questions answered about Sil or any of the retaliation that came from Phil being whacked, it should at least have continued until those questions were answered. But nope, it just cuts to black as if nothing ever happened.
God that was such a shitty ending and I almost regret spending my time watching the buildup just for that. At least now when I'm going to re-watch it I'll know that the last episode sucked the most.
Cooper Rodriguez
>continued until those questions were answered Why? Not every question needs an answer.
I bet you thought Livia and Janice were bad characters because they are unlikable.
Mason Howard
All that stuff besides the cut is open to interpretation.
Easton Robinson
>A whole thread for this boomer garbage If I wanted to watch useless weak brown people killing other weak useless brown people, I'd watch Narcos. News flash: if every single person in the show is some deadbeat that the world would be better off without, then nobody is gunna watch the show.
Kevin Robinson
watch it, zoomer
Logan Thompson
Alright, I’m not reading this thread other than my replies. I’m on Season 3 episode 9 (The Telltale Mozzadell) it’s already maybe my favorite show of all time. I have however run into a couple of spoilers on accident. All I want from you is a simple “yes” that’s a big plot point, or “no” it’s not a huge deal you ran into that and it won’t ruin the story since either it was a minor happening or was fairly obvious of happening
> I know Steve Buscemis character (whom I’m not introduced to yet) either dies or gets fucked up > Something about Tony Killing “Tony B”
Angel Scott
wasn't that the point in tony soprano, though? that normal people wouldn't ever like this guy and that's why his mental health is so shitty?
Ayden Kelly
just watch the show, spoilers don't really matter in this story
