How historically accurate was this movie?
How historically accurate was this movie?
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6,000,000%
about as scientifically accurate as the core
Not very. It didn't even include the rollercoaster
Very, they didn't invent color until 1948.
It’s very difficult, if not impossible, to determine the truth of the matter. There are reckless “revisionists” who assert that no Jews were killed, solely for being Jews, by the German government. That is almost certainly not true.
I have spoken with SS men who told me that they shot Jews, and I believe them. They also told me that the claims of mass killings of Jews put forth after the war have been greatly exaggerated, and I believe them on that score also.
It seems “not reasonably subject to dispute,” for example, that Jewish political commissars, who were routinely attached to Red Army units at the company level to maintain watch on the political reliability of Soviet soldiers, were routinely screened out from groups of Soviet POWs and shot by the Germans. Some German Army commanders have claimed that they refused to obey the order to shoot captured political commissars, but others clearly did shoot them.
It is also “not reasonably subject to dispute” that Jews were confined in concentration camps by the Germans during the Second World War, and that toward the end of the war when food supplies became very short many of them, weakened by malnutrition, died of typhus and other infectious diseases. The unburied, emaciated corpses of thousands of them were found by the U.S. Army during the conquest of Germany.
100% accurate
Shitposting aside, they didn't show the sonderkommando who were the most vicious and despicable members of the Auschwitz staff. Most survived the war and were offered shelter in Israel. George Soros is the most infamous of these.
Death is not an uncommon event in concentration camps. It was common in the Andersonville camp during the U.S. Civil War, where 13,000 captured Union soldiers died. It was common in the concentration camps in South Africa into which the British government herded Boer women and children during the Boer War; more than 20,000 of them died in 1901 and 1902.
But just as certainly it is “not reasonably subject to dispute” that organized Jewry has engaged in a lying campaign of unprecedented magnitude during the past 40 years about their “persecution” at the hands of the Germans. The Jews indisputably lied when they claimed they were “gassed” at Dachau, for example. Not only were no Jews gassed at Dachau, but the Holocaust propagandists have not yet presented a shred of credible evidence to indicate that there were gas chambers for the extermination of Jews anywhere on German soil during the Second World War, and there is a great deal of credible evidence that there were not.
Likewise, the wild propaganda tales of Jews being boiled down for their lard and converted into bars of soap, or being skinned and made into lampshades and wallets, have been thoroughly debunked since the war.
That doesn’t mean that the Jews have given up telling those tales, by any means. The cynical, professional liars, such as head Holocaust huckster Simon Wiesenthal, will continue to make claims they know to be false so long as they can be reasonably sure that most of the goyim will believe them. And that, unfortunately, will be the case so long as the Jews maintain their control over America’s news and entertainment media and are able to stifle any dissent which might reach a mass audience.
Any reasonable person who takes the trouble to look into the matter must conclude that some Jews were deliberately killed during the Second World War, and that many more died of disease while confined in concentration camps. He must also conclude, however, that the Jews have told a great many lies about the Holocaust for the calculated purpose of generating sympathy for themselves and for the state of Israel. In particular, he must conclude that they have greatly exaggerated their losses, perhaps by a factor of 20 or more.
But, as mentioned above, to pin the facts down precisely — to prove whether the Germans gassed Jews outside the territory of the Reich, in occupied Poland, for example, or not; or to determine whether the total Jewish losses during the war were as low as the 300,000 figure calculated by the International Red Cross or were three times that many — is very difficult, if not impossible.
It was complete fiction. The movie, that is.
So, how does one answer the question, was there a Holocaust? If one means by “Holocaust” six million gassed and incinerated Jews, as claimed by the Wiesenthals and the Mermelsteins, then the answer is an emphatic “no.”
If one means, on the other hand, the removal of Jews from their positions of control in the German news and entertainment media, the German educational system, and other areas of public influence in Germany by the National Socialist government; the economic boycott of Jewish merchants in Germany by the Germans after the Jews in the United States and elsewhere had launched a boycott of German imports; the imprisonment of many (though by no means all) Jews in Germany and German-occupied areas after the outbreak of the Second World War (much as Japanese-Americans on the U.S. West Coast were imprisoned after the Pearl Harbor attack); the discomfort and death by disease of some of the Jews so imprisoned; and the shooting of some Jewish partisans, some Jewish political commissars, and some other Jews in the eastern territories during the war — then the answer is “yes.”
But, really, why is that such an urgent question?
Sonderkommando didn't kill anybody
Why can't you fags just go to /mlp/ like the rest of the circlejerkers who want to stroke each other over the same responses to the same topic over and over and over again?
ITT: OP summons Israeli shills
I miss Neo-Nazism 1.0; it was more honest, abrasive and in your face about itself and didn't feign intellectual honesty, kindness or intelligence.
The only people that ever mention Israel on this site are you homos.
>no Jews were killed, solely for being Jews, by the German government. That is almost certainly not true.
You know, if there were a single shred from the 6m pieces of evidence then I would be more inclined to listen. The fact you can't produce any evidence of any kind forces me to ignore you. Asserting something without evidence other than (((eyewitness))) accounts that can very rarely, if ever, be corroborated, what do you call those again? Conspiracy theories?
It's a pity it can't be proven to have happened, that way the conversation could move onto "were the Nazis justified in gassing 6m Jews?", and, if you know any history, you'll know the answer is yes.
Either way, I'm not interested in your sob story, Rabbi. Never reply to me ever again.
>George Soros
he was like 14 by the time ww2 ended
They left out the part where Amon Goeth was arrested by the SS for theft of Jewish property, failure to provide adequate food to the prisoners under his charge, and the mistreatment and violation of punishment regulations for prisoners. I understand though, it's a long enough movie and they probably just didn't have the time for it.
Nazis are demons on earth unleashed. We must never forget their atrocities to serve as a warning to future generations.
Its frightening that day by day we are moving close to this kind of regime
so you miss what you were used to seeing it displayed as on tv. you miss being comforted that it was irrational bad dudes out to hurt people. gotcha.
notice how it's always the SS but wehrmacht dindu nuffin
>you'll know the answer is yes.
Of course, they "would have been" justified. Yet, the Madagascar plan (a primary source) indicated that in 1940 the NSDAP was interested in deporting European Jewry to Madagascar. There is no evidence that there was a "systematic plan to exterminate jews". If such a plan were to exist, I would be interested in reading it.
yea but he did assist german soldiers in hunting down jewish people, he's admitted as much. he basically sold out his people just to save his own ass
I remember watching Schindler's List senior year. All the bitches were crying and I sat there laughing my ass off. Fucking roasties.
They even had the nerve to call me out on it and get angry but those weak pansies were no match for me as I laughed harder.
"What's that? I can't hear you. You're talking too quietly. Wipe your tears and try again. Did you know Jews are responsible for all the greed and corruption in the world? Every one of those kikes deserved it. Even the Jewboys and girls. They would grow up to be even more corrupt having been raised with the mindset and allowed the time for greed and corruption to build even more. Every Jew dead is one step toward a just society you stupid sluts so shut the fuck up."
The teacher didn't know what to do. She just left the room. At last I had what I have always sought. To stand for truth and justice and have the world tremble before me. This was true power I remember thinking. Heh... So this is what men die just to dream of.
The weak should fear the strong. 1488
>Nazis are demons on earth unleashed. We must never forget their atrocities to serve as a warning to future generations.
Or the masturbation machine.
Based and, dare I say, redpilled.
>you'll know the answer is yes
there's no justification for genocide
mmm poopie
based
Holy shit the Nazis were pretty tame compared to Trump’s ICE officers.
Any movie that handles recent, consequential historical events and is not a documentary, is propaganda. Even most doc's are. WWII is the foundation myth of the current global order and people like Spielberg and the rest of the Hollywood apparatus are its evangelists.
There is when it’s concerning Jews. They need to be wiped off the face of the earth.
I know. They just release the illegal scum into the nation to rape and pillage as they see fit. Trump is worse on border security than Obama
Honestly if we got rid of the jews would the world really be a better place or would we be no better than them?
why are you posting a webm of trumps america?
what are you implying here?
Yea Forums in a nutshell
>would the world really be a better place
yes. no question
Sonderkommando were killed regularly
will /pol/ ever realize their lives would be shitty regardless even if they can snap finger like Thanos and make all jews disappear
or the cages with the bears and hawks/eagles to pick at the remains
No credible historical source claims the Holocaust was the gassing of 6 million Jews
i knew a jewish girl in high school. she didn't seem to be engaged in any so called "jewry" and lived a perfectly normal high school life. does she deserve to die, is she a villain too, destroying the white race (which is so stupid, race has no bearing on who an individual is). it's dumb to ascribe to the group the actions of certain individuals, just like how it is dumb and irresponsible to ascribe to the individual certain stereotypical traits of the group.
not much desu
maybe except for middle east
True, we’re up to 11 million now, I believe. Who cares though? Jews had it coming, and it wasn’t the first or last time they’ll be targeted. Hell, as recently as 2014 they were expelled from Guatalmala because of antisemetic natives.
That includes non Jews
The concept of individual, as you carelessly use it, is a philosophical construct. So you're comparing apples to oranges because human beings do not come to existence in vacuums, we are highly contextual and that comes with consequences.
the fuck is this nonsense
>how accurate was this movie?
not accurate
>what is an accurate holocaust movie
Son of saul which came out a few years ago. It depicts with actually really decent historical accuracy the operation of the gas chambers and krematoria at auschwitz.
something speilburg was too much of a fucking pussy to do
The holocaust never happened. And even if it did... meh.
>I have spoken to SS men, who told me they shot Jews
Hey Rabbi!
People aren't individuals, in the classical sense. We have a lot of preprogramming built in that suggests we are part of a genetic continuum of which tribalistic tendencies are a selected-for trait that overeducated ideologues think we can transcend.
In reality, those enlightened individuals will just get steamrolled by a high-fecundity subpopulation.
Are you a fucking ant or something?
Fucking Nietzsche was right
>the killings were greatly exaggerated
The amount of killing that took place at auschwitz was so incredible and so efficient in time and space constraints its no wonder why people think it didnt happen. 47 ovens. combined able to consume 4700 bodies a day (document attached)
From summer 43 to october 44 they exterminated 1.1 million jews in a space of around MAYBE 4 american football fields. And these areas of the camp were separate from the rest of the labor camp so the other prisoners likely didnt even know other than rumors which eventually manifested in an uprising that destroyed one of the facilities.
Once you do research on the holocaust not only do you know that it happened. But how badly modern "hollywood" has fucked up depicting it.
They all definitely thought you were a PSS
Nietzsche would agree with me.
>the concept of individual...is a philosophical construct
That's not true. Though you ARE correct that we are highly contextual. Each person is quite literally their own individual human being that has their own unique experiences, personality, desires, goals, etc. that culminate ultimately into who that person is. These people, though influenced by the religious, philosophical, and political groups around them, still have the individual task of forming their own opinion on the subject matter.
>human beings do not come into existence in vacuums, we are highly contextual
I think to some degree that proves the point. Because we are highly contextual, you cannot simply lump someone into a part of some group and say that they are just like every other person within that group.
>People aren't individuals
People have both group AND individual identities. However, the individual identity is paramount because it is the one that filters all the groups, forming that specific person.
>its no wonder why people think it didnt happen.
Yea, that's the same thing my teacher said and 6th grade. I'm in my 30s now, and I still don't believe it. So maybe work on your propaganda. Rationing (for everyone in Germany) started in 1938, I'm sure the people in the POW camps got hit the hardest--they weren't starved and executed, they were casualties of war. And yes, most of them were communists, so I have little pity.
>holocoast is real!
wew lad
What the fuck did you say you retarded piece of shit nazinigger? I will fucking beat the shit out of your twink bitch ass if we ever meet in public. You think you are the hot shit you little dick? I will fucking strangle you. I will dominate you. I will RAPE you. And you will probably end up enjoying it since, just like every other nazinigger, you are probably a closet homosexual who hates women and masturbates furiously watching Hitlerjugend videos.
I hope your kind will die off, you retarded edgelord stormnigger.
The German were efficient, if anything. If anyone could do it, it's them.
(I don't fully buy the 6 million number. I think it was a horrifically large number, but more like 2, 3 tops- and not all jews, a lot of gypsies, niggers, fags, and other undesirables died in camps.)
>death isnt uncommon in concentration camps
there were 47 ovens at auschwitz. You could cremate the entire population of the camp in a months time.
why did they need that many ovens when the typhus epidemic was over by 1944?
I always laugh because the most Jewish dude I know is super pro-Israel and social justice AND he's the only friend I have ever seen legitimately fuck over another friend and refuse to pay him after having done a fuck ton of crucial work that the Jew guy was surely incapable of doing.
Just funny
>they were starved and executed
okay so why did they build 4 specifically designed gas chamber/krematoria facilities?
lol no you haven't read his works
Prioritizing one aspect of human social identity is baseless normative claim doubling as a romantic attempt to vindicate the feelgood liberal paradigm of the last few centuries. It is activism, not science.
You do realize how long cremation takes right
>i dont buy the 6 million number
I dont really have any reason to deny it. You cant put a head count of people who were turned to ash and you cant put a headcount of people who were shot in a ditch. You can just make estimations based on population changes and what amount of death you can confirm
that is where the 6 million number comes from. It could be more. It could be less.
Update to the second part: Sorry, meant to greentext the whole first sentence, don't wan't to sound disingenuous with how I quote someone.
I saw your post, user. I haven't seen it, so I'll check it out as soon as I can.
>These people, though influenced by the religious, philosophical, and political groups around them, still have the individual task of forming their own opinion on the subject matter
Right
I believe that user's post is that they are all filtered through the ID before reaching super-ego or ego.
Experiences differ, but we're all using the same software to understand it. Shit like humans running on subconscious routine for 90% of the day
I have studied this more than you have.
how did the german run a camp killing jews only camp while using them as slave labor while fighting wars on multiple front at the same time? wouldnt it make more sense to make them slaves instead of killing them for the war efforts? shit aint making sense here.
part of why they lost
>George Soros killed jews
what? /pol/ didn't tell me he was based...?
The best part about being good at killing a lot of people is that you will have legions of people ready to deny any wrongdoing on your behalf. I think taking out so many people so efficently is one of the most terrifying and exciting things about our species. Even the most abhorrent crimes will just be shrugged off as inconsequential within a century, just in time for the next round of atrocities.
It would, but remember that the nazi regime was run by a bunch of drug addicts firmly convinced about their own superiority. Their regime didn't make much sense from day one. If it did, Hitler wouldn't be in need to invade Europe to save Germany from bankruptcy.
True. But if you're clever enough you can justify a lot of your pet policy projects on the back of these system shock events.
>war crimes are totally fine if you win
>the holocaust was resource intensive
not really.
the nazis exterminated 1.1 million people with 5 small buildings at one camp in about a year with a slave worker detatchment of about 100 sonderkommando per building working in shifts.
incredibly efficient
I just did some basic math.
Assuming they were cremating 1000 bodies at a time to legitimate ashes, it would have taken 50 days total.
Though Google said cremation takes 2 and a 1/2 hours and I ASSUME thats modern
The g*rmoids deserved every single bomb that was dropped on their territory, you cannot prove me wrong.
>bomb your city
>bomb back
no just read this the assumption that cremation takes 2 hours is retarded
Quick question goys: Do you consider Spaniards with fair skin, or any fair skinned people from the Iberian peninsula to be white?
I have an uncle in Spain who is a nazi enthusiast and a white-supremacist-lite, which is jarring to me because Im pretty sure the Anglo-Saxon as well as Asian parts of the world would not consider us white
I wanna hear especially from Americans and Brits
Pretty sure they thought it WAS war effort
>Prioritizing one aspect of human social identity is baseless normative claim doubling as a romantic attempt to vindicate the feelgood liberal paradigm of the last few centuries.
Well you have to prioritize it because every human doesn't think the exact same way.
>feelgood liberal paradigm
It's not that though, however some may us it that way. To remove the importance of the individual takes, in one sense, all responsibility from said individual, which leads to identitarian groups like the Nazis or Communists who saw any crime done by someone for the sake of the party as justified. It also makes human beings into pawns. To make things more emotional with an example: imagine someone ordered you to kill a family member but said it would further the cause of your preferred political goals. Would you do it?
Let's hope so. I'd hate to think Nuremberg handled matters anything less than impeccably.
That's my point, there's an argument on either side of that, but I don't care enough to get into it, especially here. We'll never know the real number, I just think it was inflated.
But it did happen.
>US puts Japanese citizens in camps
>you are now aware that if the US infrastructure had been bombed you would have pictures of starving Japanese and be taught classes about the US holocaust
You don't need to be white to be a white supremacist
Who gives a shit, there are Nazis in fucking Mongolia too
>you are now aware the US government didnt build extermination facilities
Again, you're making prescriptions based on post-hoc rationalizations. That many individual people can hold a multitude of separate thoughts becomes irrelevant since most of it is mitigated by how they act once they (inevitably) enter into a collective.
>what is the bombing of Rotterdam
Germany hadn't surrendered yet, and there were tactical targets in Dresden. Hard to cry victim when you did EXACTLY what you falsely accused others of doing.
Well no, Im asking because this part of the family all has fair skin and light eyes (green or blue). Visually I would say we are indistinguishable from what North Americans consider white, but aside from phenotype, would we be CONSIDERED white?
My whole life in Canada Ive always been treated as any other white person I think. The difference in treatment is very obvious when Im accompanied by family with stronger Mestizo phenotypes. Every once in a while someone I just met will change their tone after I mention my stereotypically hispanic name or mention where I was from - Ive been told a few times "OHH but you're of the good ones, you're polite and educated"
t ethnically confused, I dont have pride or disdain for any particular culture
So you agree with me. War crimes are totally fine if you win.
You are citing a .png posted by an user you absolute brainlet.
not sure if this is an unironic post to ironic post
Except that the worldwide population of Jews barely changed before and after the war. I've looked for the population numbers to determine the 6,000,000 myself and they simply attend there.
Try as hard as you can to find a non-Jewish, non-Holocaust related source for population estimates in order to do the simple math. It's a racket.
Even the term "war crime" and all that it implies is a propaganda item levied against the losing side all within the broader context of conquest, which is what we're actually talking about here.
Is SCSA wrong?
Someone has a reading comprehension problem. No wonder you think Dresden was a war crime. You are being accused of projection, fren.
My biggest problem is that Jews now have an apartheid ethnostate and use their control of the media to attack any solidarity of other groups of people as "fascist or supremacist."
If you want to see racial supremacists look to Israel. They destroyed the Palestinians while requiring the rest of the world to take holocaust classes and attacking anyone who didn't agree.
>the worldwide population of jews didnt change
except it did. Massively.
can you read or not?
It doesnt take 2 hours to burn a body you fucking moron.
>nazis are so evil for killing civilians
>haha so funny we burned those women and children alive in Dresden
Why would you make an argument based on principles that you don't bother to follow?
Oh, fuck you with your "Muh Dresden" bullshit. Dresden was a legit military target. It killed 25k people. Now let's talk the Blitz, that killed 40k people in the UK. Let's talk about the terror campaign of launching V-1s at London, at civilian targets, up to 100 a day at the peak of the bombing. They're still digging up bombs from the Blitz in London today.
Here is an actual source for you
chipmanfuneralhome.ca
>How long does it take to cremate a body? Cremating at the optimum temperature (1,400-1,800 degrees), the average weighted remains takes 2 to 2 ½ hours.
You will note that the times and temperatures don't quite match up to your fake .png with its nonexistent sources.
>That many individual people can hold a multitude of separate thoughts becomes irrelevant since most of it is mitigated by how they act once they (inevitably) enter into a collective.
It being mitigated doesn't mean though that that individual is not there. Again, I'm not saying groups do not play a part in this, just that we must deal with people as individuals and not groups on a case by case basis. To possibly help elucidate here's an example: two people can be caucasian, male, Brits; and although they grew up in a British culture, with a Christian heritage, having male genes and instincts driving certain basic functions; those two people certainly would not have the exact same (though they may be comparable) opinions on said background or groups which may have influenced them.
>108 replies
>45 posters
So you're agreeing that condemning the Nazis for being evil is ridiculous because London was as viable a target as Dresden. Thank you for agreeing with me. War crimes are fine if you win.
Pretty sure bombing a city with legitimate military targets isn't the same as attempted genocide or bombing cities that already surrendered.
haha yeah let's burn women and children alive fuck yeah we're the good guys
>cold start oven
>casket
>fine dust cermemonial cremation
>total bone immolation
like i said. I have researched this more than any of you fags have.
What a STUNNING and BRAVE post! The kind of view our oppressive society tries to censor. All I can say is: thank you for standing up for truth.
>the purpose of the Dresden bombings was to only kill women and children
>and then everyone clapped
>The bombing was controversial because Dresden was neither important to German wartime production nor a major industrial center
history.com
London was not a military target, chucklefuck.
what's a PSS
That's right it was a legit military action. Just like the concentration camps increased national security.
They may indeed have different views. The question is, are those views quickly set against each other in a political context as we scale up in numbers? Or is the cultural distance between these two views small enough that they are overshadowed by the essential and innate similarities shared by the given polity? And what happens when those are uprooted or undermined? Is an infinite number of interest groups pitted against one another healthy for a society?
>seat of government
>home to multiple war industries
>not a military target
what about the extermination camps
The rationale for total jewish genocide is ironically the same rationale given by the jewish propagandists to Allied bomber crews to justify their mass civilian killings.
The average German civilian is not a soldier. He/she is unarmed and probably won't ever commit a violent act in his/her entire life. However, that German civilian is working in a factory to produce munitions, or a farm to produce rations, or at the very least paying taxes to support the Nazi state. The civilian's existence, even though they're not on the front lines, is directly helping the Nazi war machine. Therefore it is necessary to destroy the civilians in order to destroy the Nazi war machine. Likewise with Jews. Your average jew is just living his life, but he donates to jewish pressure groups like the SPLC, ADL, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, etc. He puts pressure on his city council or his children's school's PTA. His children will grow up to be more jews and expand jewish power and influence. Even though the average jewish guy is just a middle class deli shop owner, his existence is fueling the jewish political/media/economic control and therefore he must be destroyed if the jewish system is to be destroyed.
Then I would kindly ask you to cite an actual source, and not just quote an image that you posted yourself.
>extermination of civilians from the air is totally fine
Lol it's like you're a programmed robot that can't put a thought together.
>implying you wouldn't
you would do it and cry like a bitch "please don't kill me oh noooo ill do whatever you want!! slurp slurp das semen ist gut herr commandant!!"
you little bitch nigger pussy
The 5 million number was made up by Simon Wiesenthal.
Source:
timesofisrael.com
>The “5 million” has driven Holocaust historians to distraction ever since Wiesenthal started to peddle it in the 1970s. Wiesenthal told the Washington Post in 1979, “I have sought with Jewish leaders not to talk about 6 million Jewish dead, but rather about 11 million civilians dead, including 6 million Jews.”
>Yehuda Bauer, an Israeli Holocaust scholar who chairs the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, said he warned his friend Wiesenthal, who died in 2005, about spreading the false notion that the Holocaust claimed 11 million victims – 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews.
>“I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’” Bauer recalled in an interview Tuesday. “He said, ‘Sometimes you need to do that to get the results for things you think are essential.’”
If the jews were lying about the 5 million number in order to elicit sympathy from non-jews, what else were they lying about?
But this is America. I thought we were all individuals.
Imagine bombing this beautiful city. :(
>w-what extermination camps
Based
Harris should've finished all Germans
I would kindly ask you to stop implying it takes 2 fucking hours to cremate a body from a cold oven designed to cremate loved one compared to a hotter industrial scale oven specifically designed to run for 24 hour continuous use.
Ovens specifically designed for multiple bodies
>47 ovens. combined able to consume 4700 bodies a day
4700/47=100 bodies per oven per day
100/24=4.17 bodies per oven per hour
>ovens so powerful that they could cremate a body in 15 minutes
This is why no one can take you kikes seriously
Be proud of both. I'm russkie living in canada with a very russkie name. Won't hear the end of it ever
don't worry, women of any race won't fuck white men anymore. literally one generation away from being wiped out. but at least they got to die doing what they loved, owning the libs epic style.
>Is an infinite number of interest groups pitted against one another healthy for a society?
No and that's not what I mean. Group identity is something that just happens with human beings and is necessary. However these groups cannot be based upon race, they have to be based upon values that the society at large holds dear, and that too can't be based on race or other arbitrary physical features because race does not determine morality.
And also as a side note:
>an infinite number of interest groups pitted against one another
This is what both leftist groups and white-supremacist groups do but with the characteristics of someone that can't be changed. For example: the definition of what a true white person is has gotten more and more strict. Meaning that if you don't adhere to this strict criteria that you did not choose, you're considered a detriment to society.
>trying to get jews to do manual labor
>attempted genocide is the exact same as bombing a city do disrupt enemy supply flow
>the allies are just as bad as nazis guys
Honestly can't tell if you're just hunting for (you)s at this point or not.
>only one body per oven
See Topf and sons literally sent letters to the camp saying you should stuff multiple bodies in there
The math ads up when you actually realize how the ovens operated.
I'm not saying either is good. However there is a difference between unexpected civilian casualties and outright genocide.
An actual academic study please. Don't waste either of our time posting images on this laotian esoteric shadow puppet board. If you are so knowlegable on this topic, than an academic journal on cremation in ww2 concentration camps should be total cake.
This. A lot of them would have refused to work and some amount would have found ways for other slaves to work for them
>Do you consider Spaniards with fair skin, or any fair skinned people from the Iberian peninsula to be white?
Yes.
Here's the Official Whiteness Tier-List
>Huwhite
Germanics, Nords
>White
Anglos, Scots, French, West Slavs, Northern Italians
>Eggshell
Iberians, Southern Italians, Greeks, Slavs, Finns
>Non-White Allies
Iranians, Japanese, Irish
>only one body per oven
Yeah that's right. Look at the things. You can't fit more than one body at a time.
But group identity IS based on ethnicity/race and even if you assume it shouldn't be, you put yourself at a disadvantage whenever you carry on treating groups as aggregations of individuals if they do not reciprocate the sentiment. It's why liberalism is naive: to project outward to the rest of the world universalist ideas originating only in a specific part of Europe and that are not binding in the slightest. All because you're collectively suffering from PTSD from a couple of worlds wars and have resorted to self harm to cope.
except with basic measurements we know that isnt the case at all
Whether or not those organizations have any level of corruption within them, just because someone donates to an organization (that they may very well believe is doing good for the world) that you don't like, you shouldn't murder them. The proper way to go about solving world issues is through the realm of debate and discussion, not violence. Human beings are not pawns to be used for ones goals.
Thanks anons, gives me more to think about
>no masturbate machine
>no wooden door gas chamber
>no minecart rollercoaster
Complete bogus movie that doesn't do the jewish suffering justice
documents are a source. I just posted a fucking written letter from topf and sons. Do you even know who that is?
>human begins are perfectly rational and can be swayed by rhetoric
I hope you're still young, so that you still have time to cure yourself off those naivete. The history of the world is opposing sides making well-reasoned treatises in favor of their viewpoint and then slaughtering each other in battle the next morning. The winner then constructs a new ideological regime that vindicates his thesis.
How is it based on one's genetic make-up. Group identities stem from culture which comes from individuals. Race is an incidental factor. A man comes from Uganda and has a Ugandan heritage. His genes did not give him that heritage and culture, but the individuals around him who are propagating something that has been developing for tens-of-thousands of years. Correlation does not equal causation.
>cremating two bodies stacked on top of eachother every 30 minutes 24/7/365
lol, really not improving your case here fren
>The proper way to go about solving world issues is through the realm of debate and discussion, not violence
t. Carthaginian nobleman circa 150 BC
A letter from the manufacturer trying to push their product. I'm not even convinced the letter itself isn't a forgery, but even if real, Topf is trying to sell a product. Would you take everything you read in a sales brochure as Gospel?
I understand that people are guided heavily by emotion. But that doesn't mean you give into clearly evil acts.
also wouldn't giving into said evil just make the world even worse as a result
>A letter from the manufacturer trying to push their product.
How is it trying to push their product?
>I'm not even convinced the letter itself isn't a forgery
What do you base this off? Why would you think it's a forgery?
How can defending your people be an evil act?
They invaded Russia in self defense right?
>wow i cant believe it that must mean it didnt happen
yes when you have a staff of over 100 sonderkommando working in shifts.
>its a brochure
Its a letter to the camp stop being a retard
>sidelining the argument towards other things
As that user pointed out, numbers dont match up, even if we stuck 10 people in a single oven.
the claim is not that 6 million were burned in an oven. there are many ways for people to be killed or die beside the ovens.
How many countries has USA invaded for national security?
See but they're not you're people. They just look like you. Who you are is based upon your beliefs, not your physical characteristics. I know it sounds really corny and idealistic, but all of humanity is your people, and the role of the individual is to strive to bear the suffering of reality and make existence better for others.
You're parsing out things that are tightly interwoven. When a homogeneous society accepts into it a minority, that minority eventually agitates for political representation along ethnic criteria. This is how the world works and it is afforded to minority groups unquestioningly and curiously in individualistic western nations.
You see, I am describing the world as it is while you describe it as you feel it should be as a consequence of ingesting egalitarian postwar media since infancy.
I'm not sidelining anything I'm not even the original user you were arguing with. You claim it's a forgery, you claim their pushing their product I'd just like to know what you base these things off
Yeah like sickness and starvation when allies bomb supply lines.
I'm not American so I don't really care. What kinda argument is that anyway? "but what about America?"
Do you know what the Einsatzgruppen is?
>the claim is not that 6 million were burned in an oven
I'm not making that claim, I'm simply responding to this post that one of your JIDF buddies made. The figures I used are his figures so suck my dick.
>I have spoken with SS men who told me that they shot Jews, and I believe them. They also told me that the claims of mass killings of Jews put forth after the war have been greatly exaggerated
What the fuck would they know? Being in the SS doesn't make you privy to the exact number of Jews killed (something chiefly determined AFTER the war). The SS was a huge organization that grew wildly out of proportion. Were the men you met psychic?
Ideally I sometimes hope there's an alien invasion to unite mankind but that isn't the case yet
Oh shit nibba you really don't know what an academic source is. Also that file name haha
>shill_infographpack_31.jpg
I'm just pointing out you crying about so called evil acts from before you were born while same evil is done today.
I assume you are not german or russian either so why care?
Between 5-6 million Jews disappeared from Europe following WW2. If not killed in the Holocaust where did they go?
>this thread
Absolutely nothing new that I haven't seen debunked a million times. Almost like the info all died when the IHR lost relevance.
This is infantile, unserious drivel that has no intellectual merit. Stop sermonizing as though your pronouncements are binding by merely their utterance. You'll have to do better than that.
Jews are subversive by nature
>See but they're not you're people.
They are.
The Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk--
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock,
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
They are used to the lies I tell;
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy or sell.
The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control--
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.
This was my father's belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf--
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.
You have to include jews living in UK and Russia to even approach that number. Did they all move to Germany to get gassed?
>the numbers dont add up
uhh
>47 ovens
>3 bodies at a time
assuming you use the false math that it take an hour before new bodies are introduced you are at 3384 bodies a day
extremely close to what the document states.
You add in the additional math....
>potentially 4-5 (widely claimed by witnesses) bodies boosted by infants and children
>burn time of 40 minutes before new bodies are put in
and you meet or exceed 4700 easily.
>I'm just pointing out you crying about so called evil acts
I just hopped in this thread I'm not the original user you were responding to.
>while same evil is done today.
And that's wrong too how does that justify Nazis aggression?
>I assume you are not german or russian either so why care?
My grandpa fought in WW2 so I have an interest in all things war related.
>1933-2015
Really nigger? How about 1942-45, the actual timeline of the holocaust?
>let me tell you who your people are, you can't be expected to self determine
Fuck you. Learn game theory and stop spouting puerile hippie shit.
>my grandaddy
Nobody cares. Nice job dodging cocksucker.
>You have to include jews living in UK and Russia to even approach that number
The Nazis themselves estimated the population of Jews in Europe to be 11 million the number is more than feasible
>4-5 bodies being burned in 40 minutes in a single oven
This is why no one takes you jews seriously.
Is it wrong for minority groups within a country to be represented? I understand that that may fall into racial identitarianism. And what causes that is a moral decline in a society and the disappearance of the importance of the individual. It's what is going on in the United States.
>You see, I am describing the world as it is while you describe it as you feel it should be as a consequence of ingesting egalitarian postwar media since infancy.
Look man, I'm not trying to measure dicks over whose more woke than the other. I'm not just saying this shit so I can feel superior to others.
>My grandpa fought in WW2
The point was to show the depopulation of Jews during WW2 is still very visible in their actual numbers today.
This. Summed up very well.
Based Stanley Kubrick was quoted to saying this was a lovely film about something that never happened or something to that extent.
>hurr i dont believe it because reasons
i bet you think every time you add something to the oven the burn time goes up
Relax dude you asked me why I care no need to sperg
sometimes i come to a maddening point of awareness where the fact hits that i am spending the prime of my youth on this shitty website arguing with some arper who is also wasting the prime of his youth posing as a nazi because being edgy and alt is enjoyable in his emotionally stunted brain. there is also the definite possibility that you are just this dumb and a holocaust denier, and presumably climate change denier, racist, and whatever other piece of /pol/ core ideology you subscribe to finally have that sense of belonging that people so crave. either way, there is a tad bit of solace in knowing that your activity on this thread proves that i am not the most pathetic creature tonight, since you are doing the same things as me but either from the position of a genuine holocaust denier, or someone who takes pleasure in angering others for no reason.
It's the idea that built the west and the best civilizations we've ever seen. The only reason they're in decline is because those values are being discarded.
Yeah there's no alternative explanation of where all those poor Eastern European jews could have gone between the end of WW2 and 2015
Served in the Balkans in the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar. It's pretty interesting stuff
en.wikipedia.org
No, you're just spouting state-sponsored nonsense that you haven't reflected on with any seriousness either because you're a brainlet or you're scared of the implications that'd come when you realize how patently absurd these ideas are.
holocaust deniers are not stupid. They literally have not read source documents. Looked at maps. or done any real reading on the subject of the holocaust.
Yet on the internet they are carpet bombed by 2000s era infographics from stromfront. They are given every fake debunking argument that has been dealt with academically since the 70s.
Its like when people say jet fuel cant melt steel beams unironically
It's still confusing race for culture. A black man from my place of birth is as much my people as a white one or asian one.
Israels population didn't reach 6 million until the year 2000. Such a migration would be one of the largest in history I can't imagine it would go unnoticed
But that's exactly what racial identitarians do, and their views end in a lot more dead innocent people.
The west was built through conquest and out-teching everyone else specifically in warfare. Not because of some unfounded bullshit John Locke came up with the hundred years ago. Stop listening to youtube cuckservatives, they're lying to you.
>i bet you think every time you add something to the oven the burn time goes up
Yes I do believe that. See: physics
>Is it wrong for minority groups within a country to be represented?
Yes because such representation invariably comes at the expense of the majority. Look at the 2016 election. Only 37% of Whites, the majority population, voted for Hillary, but because of minority populations having representation, she very nearly won. The minorities are colluding with a minority of the majority population to 'oppress' the rest of the majority population. This is bad for the majority of the population.
>i come to a maddening point of awareness where the fact hits that i am spending the prime of my youth on this shitty website arguing with some arper who is also wasting the prime of his youth posing as a nazi because being edgy and alt is enjoyable in his emotionally stunted brain.
If you know that why do it? It's Yea Forums for fuck's sake, particularly a board with one of the least quality
>The minorities are colluding with a minority of the majority population to 'oppress' the rest of the majority population.
These are the enlightened takes I come to Yea Forums for
based and God bless your grandfather for his service
They also went to the US in the largest numbers ever.
>if i say physics that means i win
Tell me the exact mathematical equation that deduces the time increase the total mass added to the oven
and then stop and re-do the equation because separate bodies with giant air cavities in them do not burn as a single mathematical mass
>boosted by infants and children
Not all kids are giant, morbidly obese fucks like you mutts jave.
>A black man from my place of birth is as much my people as a white one or asian one.
No he's not, any more than a human born in a barn is a cow.
>They also went to the US in the largest numbers ever.
Do you mean during the course and in the immediate aftermath of WW2? Because their migration numbers don't spike or increase drastically over the course of those years. The census doesn't seem to register a drastic increase in the number of Jews.
Racial identititarians make appeal to their fellow countrymen to be ethnically conscious. They don't make weak appeasements for co-harmony to outgroups. It's their land after all.
Look, resorting to insult and insinuations gets people nowhere in this.
he thinks eastern european jews were honey boo boo sized
>Racial identititarians make appeal to their fellow countrymen to be ethnically conscious
Would you consider a Hispanic your countrymen?
>two adults and three kids burn in a single oven in 40 minutes
lol
I'm challenging you to think deeper on the feelgood crap you're spouting.
If he was White, yes. Hispanic is a language group baka*!
*TL note baka means dummy
They could burn a single body in less than an hour in the 1870s. It's quite feasible they reached such numbers by the 1940s
ia802607.us.archive.org
(page 125).
>Hispanic
>a Spanish-speaking person living in the US, especially one of Latin American descent.
I bet you were that kid who tried correcting the teacher in class
perhaps believing the holocaust did not happen did not happen does not make stupid, but at the very least denying it is a negative on your intelligence balance
I work with hispanics and they tell me that they have a great sense of national pride for their country of origin and mock America's lack of a clearcut mother culture beyond civic shit. And they're right to do so.
You think
>two adults and 3 kids poof into fine ash at the 40 minute mark
What topf and sons the manufacturers of the ovens , eyewitnesses , and basic cremation sceince says
>two adults and 3 kids will burn down to such a small size by the 40 minute mark that the remains can be dumped into the collection bin and new bodies introduced while the old continue to burn to ash in the remaining 20 minutes
its not hard
Out of curiosity, if they aren't totally cremating these bodies down to dust, have there been any mass graves with bone fragments discovered?
I dont think so. People who question the narrative can be intelligent. But people who hold onto conspiracy in the face of evidence are dumb
Pic related was the course of most anons I think. Certainly was for me
The only mass graves they have found were a couple ~200 sized ones in Ukraine. I bet one of them will come in with a lengthy post about how those ~200 skeletons means 6 million jews died.
i am so starved for social interaction that these rants are the only way that i can try to retain the sanity i have left. i am also pathetically content with my pathetic little life and talking about it reminds me that i shouldn't be.
ahh then the fields around will have tons of ossified evidence
oh wait laws against checking
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PUT WOODEN DOORS ON A GAS CHAMBER
The base assumption of that pic is wrong no historian or scholar claims that 6 million Jews were killed in concentration camps. It's these basic mistakes that revisionists make that leads me to believe they're not all that well read on the subject.
2 things.
1. The bodies were burned to relative dust. The ovens had a "collection bin" that dumped the large clumps down a bit but they continued to burn much like any BBQ pit would. The remaining large chunks of bone were crushed in machines (pictured)
2. Madjenek. The first camp on the polish border to be liberated. Was liberated before the camp could be demolished properly (like auschwitz/treblinka was) Piles of bones and ash were found all around the camp. So much so they build a giant concrete monument that contains the ash. Just google image madjenek and you will see examples
Look man, I have thought about it deeply. And I've seen it work positively in the world through personal experience. Just because you might not have doesn't mean it's not there.
>ganged up on him
M8 he declared war on two of the largest countries on the planet. Nobody ganged up on him he invited conflict through repeated aggression.
san fransisco officially lets illegals vote, how is he wrong
and it's a /pol/ shitposting thread...
they literally do. You can walk around the fields around sobibor and find bones just sitting in the fucking grass dipshit.
After they're dead why crush the bones
Thing looks like a crude cement mixer
>picture taken by Caroline Sturdy Colls at a polish cemetery
lol
damn so this is the power of infographics. the STATE of "revisionists"
This unironically but stormfront instead of isreali
Yep those are definitely human bones and they're definitely from around a death camp. I can tell from some of the fragments and from seeing quite a few bones in my time.
>muh boogeyman with an alexa rank of negative 4 billion comes here I swear
look somebody is breaking the laws against "checking"
>TLDR holocaust deniers dont know in eastern europe there are so much human remains littering the fields around some of the death camps you can just walk up and pick up bone fragments
>picture taken by Caroline Sturdy Colls at a polish cemetery
lol
So bone fragments from 50+ years ago are just chilling right on the surface out side a so called death camp
But when I go to Normandy I can't fine bone fragments anywhere
lmao dude you got nothing. imagine getting brainwashed from debunked stormfront memes lmao the state of zoomers
yea I tried to legit talk about it but it turned into name calling. i'm done with this shit thread
You knew exactly what you were doing kike
I treat people of other races with respect in my every day life. I just don't let my personal anecdotes blind me as to what i know happens as you move up in scale.
Like another user said earlier, the nice guy sitting next to you at work that buys you lunch on fridays might also be donating to the SPLC
ya wow its almost like when soldiers get shot on they are bagged and sent home or buried
but when somebody is exterminated their ashen remains are spread in local fields as fertilizers
What point are you trying to make exactly?
To be frank, I don't care about the Jews or Holocaust one way or the other.
i got both of those pictures from a "holocaust denial" forum and some guy who visited sobibor posted it as evidence and left the forum asshurt for weeks.
she never excavated a single death camp. she went to a polish cemetery and claimed that was somehow proof
just lmao at the whole situation
Damn I I can just tell only the brightest minds are investigating the myth of the Holocaust
>she never excavated a single death camp. she went to a polish cemetery and claimed that was somehow proof
source?
To be Anne Frank, I'm jewish and I died in the Holocaust
Every single soldier was bagged and sent home
Even those hit by some sort of catastrophic explosion and scattered to the wind
You know like land mines, or artillery, or rockets, or mortars, or tanks, or grenades
Not a single bone fragments was left behind
>holocaust deniers often ask "where did all the ash and remains go"
>most holocaust deniers cant identify the gas chambers on a map of auschwitz , so the chance they would know about the monument at madjenek that contains a literal mountain of ash from the camp is slim to none
Should've tried not being Jewish
I know your game rabbi
I hate it but I respect it
I visited normandy too. Sadly a week after the 70th anniversary of the landings.
You know what i wasnt doing? digging through the fucking grass looking for bone fragments you autistic faggot
Rest well, young Jew. A severely autistic man will write a meme album about you one day.
looks like a giant pile of dirt
Reminder: everyone who disagrees with you online is a Jew.
But as you can clearly see there are bone fragments scattered all around the death camps
So what gives
Shouldn't you gave been able to find one while casually looking at the ground
My cock looks like a foot but it doesn't mean I have three feet you understand what I'm getting at here?
ya its just dirt. extremely fine off white ash colored dirt.
*crickets*
Some are niggers
The fact that you can be arrested in some countries for questioning the (((truth))) is enough to make me skeptical.
Was getting cremated in 15 minutes part of your flowchart?
The denial of Soviet atrocities is illegal in the Ukraine are you skeptical of those too?
did they scatter bone fragments all over the battlefields of ww2 after the war?
are you retarded?
The nazis scattered the remains for 2 reasons. To fertilize the fields and to hide the evidence in open sight.
There are no remains outside of auschwitz because it was located right next to a river. where they dumped it.
...that's earth, not ash.
And you base this off what?
Every official mention of the monument says it's dirt "mixed with ashes of victims". It's earth.
Have some fucking pride user, who cares what others think about your ethnicity. Do yourself a favor and think really hard about the people you are begging for acceptance. I dont really need to post a picture of the average /pol/ poster, now do I?
>Playing pokemon go at a Holocaust memorial
>It's the game creators who are being disrepectful
Our greatest ally is never to blame. It's those filthy slant-eyed japs.
>Every official mention of the monument says it's dirt "mixed with ashes of victims".
Source? I can't find anything which says that.
What the fuck kind of brain-dead definition of Hispanic doesn't include the actual Spanish and Portuguese?
The real redpill is that the Germans were the Jews the entire time
So you're saying that all the bones are in one concentrated area, except when there isnt. That's because there's a river near by
Wouldn't it be more respectful to id the victims so their remains could be returned to relatives? I mean with modern DNA testing we could surely test some of those bone fragments in that pile and return them to the holy land as one last act of kindness.
For one polish wikipedia says as much and it is sourced. And I somehow doubt that if in reality it was ash, it would be quite swiftly fixed.
he isnt wrong.
scrapbookpages.com
The ash was mixed in with compost
This was a central theme of most ash disposal.
>So you're saying
well yes ash is very fine and moving water will disperse it easily.
>Image posting
Cool argument
You might as well return home all those human lampshades when we are at it.
We must never forget the 230,000 jewish people that died in the war detainment camps as a result of the Allies bombing German supply lines
I'm not the user you're arguing with I just wanted to take the piss. don't be so high strung m8
What about the bone fragments
jews are retarded and like native americans when it comes to graves. they cant ever be moved
Serbian Jew double bluff I see
You need some new material m8 I've seen this episode before
Very convenient.
That's the joke
Actualy the "pile of ashes" in majdanek was moved without a problem. It's more about it remaining where goim can see it.
>start war
>bomb poland (used undefended non-military town Frampol as a strategic bombing live test range)
>bomb france
>bomb holland
>bomb belgium
>bomb russia
>wtf we're getting bombed? WAR CRIMEZ1Q1!!!111
You're asking to define an ephemeral racial association. It can't be done.
Just want to thank the guy(s?) posting rebuttals to despicable stormfaggot lies. Holocaust denial is flatearth-tier. I appreciate your efforts.
you'd need to be a pretty big cuck tho lmao
It's amazing how quickly that shit falls apart at a few basic questions. There's too many zoomers on this site who think they are way smarter than they actually are.
Ukraine is a third world shithole, but countries that aren't third world shitholes will arrest you if you disagree with our greatest ally's (((narrative))).
Now you're moving goal posts.
I hope black children pelt you with rocks
Damn, JIDF is getting desperate, isn't it?
Yea we're outsourcing to pajeets times got pretty tough
wtf I love Israel now
>hitler ended up adopting the final solution
>the apparatus that was setup to achieve it rivals the autistic engineering and logistics abilities of ancient romans
>same apparatus was used secondarily to kill off "degenerates" and non whites like gypsies
>was well on the way in succeeding wiping jews off the face of europe if nazis didn't lose
>neo-nazis, stormfags, and /pol/tards insist hitler dindu nuffin "but should have"
Always boggles my noggin.
Not really. I expect oppressive government behavior that jails people for wrongthink in unstable shithole countries. Not so much in Western European countries that pride themselves on being the best places in the world.
I'm actually of the opinion that people, like Stormniggers, fulfill a valuable role in society. They teach us not to be comfortable in the false sense of security that conformity provides. We shouldn't blindly accept anything, including the Holocaust, despite the fact that it happened.
That said, it's good to engage in dialogue so more people don't fall down the nazi/communist/extremist rabbit hole.
What rebuttals? Pictures of pile of dirt and cemetery in Poland?
>Not so much in Western European countries that pride themselves on being the best places in the world.
Europe never had consistent freedom of speech this really isn't the case. America has always been the champion of free expression
>What rebuttals?
Have you read the thread?
>America has always been the champion of free expression
>israelantiboycottlaw.jpg
What are you even trying to say?
Yeah? Where are rebbutals? Calling people stormniggers and posting canned JIDF images isn't "rebutting" shit.
>Yeah? Where are rebbutals?
Yeah, picture of admitted pile of dirt, unrelated to holocaust cemetery and canned pictures that dance around issue and are rebutted themselves by following posts. Truly blowing the fuck out those goim.
>picture of admitted pile of dirt
No one said it was a mere pile of dirt.>unrelated to holocaust cemetery
How are they unrelated?
>and canned pictures that dance around issue
Which ones? How do they dance around it?
>and are rebutted themselves by following posts
Can you show me any instances of this? I can't seem to find any myself
A little late to the thread. Give these a read if the subject matter interests.
>imgur.com
>imgur.com
>imgur.com
>No one said it was a mere pile of dirt.
Well, it's a pile of dirt with "ashes in them". This is something we need to take their word for.
>unrelated to holocaust cemetery
Place where photo was taken isn't related to holocaust. I think it might be important.
>Can you show me any instances of this?
Well, one about 6 million jews "disapearing" while also conviniently forgeting to mention how they appeared in other places. I would start with that.
Also what the fuck is with this redditspacing?
>This is something we need to take their word for.
It's not a leap of faith there's evidence you can refer to. In fact there's tons of evidence on the Holocaust in general you can refer to I'm sure you've already sifted through all the data.
>Place where photo was taken isn't related to holocaust.
Source? I asked for one earlier ITT and got nothing
>Well, one about 6 million jews "disapearing" while also conviniently forgeting to mention how they appeared in other places
Like where? Any census data to back that up?
>In fact there's tons of evidence on the Holocaust in general
And that evidence must be true becouse we know that holocaust is real becouse we have evidence for it...
Also why do redditors do this shit? Do you really think it makes your posts look better? Do you like to overcompensate for lack of anything interesting to say by taking up space?
>And that evidence must be true becouse we know that holocaust is real becouse we have evidence for it...
We know it's true because there's primary documents you can refer to in abundance. Nazis were very autistic with record keeping. This isn't a leap of faith like I said before there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that you're free to read.
>Also why do redditors do this shit?
That's just how I format my posts dude I think it makes it a bit easier to read. No need to sperg. Anyway back to your claim that Jews appeared in other places as they were disappearing from Europe which places were those exactly?
I like how this post went untouched by the JIDF.