Why don't people like Man of Steel...

I've never seen this complaint before. What does that mean?

I don't know. Hologram Jor-El has been used before
Plus they needed something for Lois to do

If your super hero movie isn't basically a 2h30min long version of a buffy the vampire episode it's shit.
Fuck I hate joss whedon so much. He's single handedly destroyed cinema.
Is he a jew?

>why don't people like Man of Steel?
Because the comic book manchildren were faced with the fact that when one godly being throws another one through the building at mach 9, there will be casualties, and also that unlike in their dumbshit comic books, Supes didn't have a prison made out of kryptonium, with kryptonium chains and guards armed with kryptonion batons ready to lock Zod into.

>Great
You could get away with saying it was an okay movie. Maybe even a good one. But definitively not great.

>D-DC can s-still win!!
He says watching only the fight scene from Batman Versus Superman
>IT'S CAPEKINO!
he shouts with suicide squad paused Harleys butt
>It EXISTS YOU MARVEL cucks!
He screams, watching Gal gadot runway walk across a battlefield
>its dark and gritty!!
He shrieks, as a gay flash talks about brunch
>He's the next Spielberg!!
He moans as Supermans juggles an invisible mustache on a smooth upperlip
>Batman KILLS DEAL WITH IT
He hyperventilates while trying to find proof in The Dark Knight Returns
>THE PRODUCERS RUINED HIS VISION
he whimpers as Instagram drug lord Jared "Joker" leto drives a pink Lamborghini
>M-Mouse cucks!
He repeats as all the actors quit and join Marvel or go back to real acting roles

looks like someone called for my pasta, fret not my kitchen is always open

Booooorrrriiiinnnngggg

I read a lot of shit saying that they don't like that he doesn't smile
Which is bullshit

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>tfw I like both DC and Marvel movies

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Cringe

I thought the editing was jarring, especially for the many flashbacks scenes during the first half of the movie, and that the pacing was somewhat uneven throughout. The story didn't make sense in a few places, especially in regards to Zod's approach to the invasion and Superman himself. I thought the whole movie felt depressing and drab, which didn't quite seem to fit with the narrative around hope and light. I also thought the fact that the absolute climax of the movie was a moment of gut-wrenching anxiety and despair was a poor choice. On the whole, all of these factors contributed to making the film seem like it was made by someone tone deaf, who felt intellectually defensive about having made a super hero movie. The romantic kiss in the charred remains of central Metropolis was almost comical.

The positives of the film include its emphasis on the alien angle, the acting by Shannon and Crowe, as well as small moments here and there: The scene in which Superman learns to fly is absolutely beautiful.

To clarify, I didn't think the movie "needs to feel like a Marvel film", which I'm sure is what I'm going to be interpreted as saying here, where the principle of charity is never adhered to. I just thought that having the movie feel like it belongs on the shelf next to Schindler's list wasn't fitting even considering its own terms.

>tfw I can't say I like DC movies to my friends because they will shit on me
I hate this stigma agianst DC movies. Suicide Squad and Justice League were shit but the rest are good. Why can't people like both Marvel and DC?

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YOU WOULD DARE THREATEN MY MOTHER?

>boy of boy let's have Lois Lane fly a plane into a giant spider and kill it by jamming a USB key into a giant black ball
Remember that she couldn't even do that part right and one of the scientists ended up figuring it out. And her reward for being useless was that she got rescued by Superman when for everyone else it was a suicide mission.

most tedious fight scenes i have ever had the displeasure of seeing in cinema

marvel is just as soulless but at least their brainless fights are more interesting to watch than punching each other and throwing each other buildings for what feels like 10 minutes

Its boring af and flat out does not understand Superman as a character

Can you explain?

>cut world engine fight
>make Pa Kents death more reasonable (and have kid Clark in that scene)
>have Zod explain his plan better

kino

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>The story didn't make sense in a few places

It does though, as long as you accept the Zod that they present and dont project your own version of Zod onto him.

> I also thought the fact that the absolute climax of the movie was a moment of gut-wrenching anxiety and despair was a poor choice.

Why? I thought it was great. This is just "not muh"

>made by someone tone deaf

Are you saying that superman/superhero stories arent diverse and dont have a huge catalogue of stories that go through basically every tone imaginable?

>The romantic kiss in the charred remains of central Metropolis was almost comical.

You might be a sociopath. Its a final embrace of love and hope before Superman goes into what might be a suicide mission for him, fighting the only other being with his powers but with way more training and having to save the world in the process.

You ar

The constant shakycam gave me a headache after the first 15 minutes.

Russell Crowe was the best part of it

Plinkett challenge with Man of Steel's Kal El, GO!

The entire movie is stupid

His dad dies in the most stupid way possible and doesn't try to save him
Also I don't think Superman saves anyone apart from Lois Lane
He's seemingly content with the entire city being destroyed and doesn't try to save anyone
And to finish it off he snaps Zod's neck, killing him

This was a piece of shit movie with no redeeming qualities. Fuck the Snyder Fanboys

>Man of Steel is legitimately a great movie.

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It has the same issues as BvS but on a smaller scale.

The pacing is completely off (the tease Zod's ship as this ominous, looming threat, and then in the very next scene he reveals himself to the world, destroy the tension they just set up).

And worst of all: it doesn't define Superman. It tries to have its cake and eat it too. It's mind-numbing how anybody could leave it like this, but that's how retarded Snyder is.

I'm all fine and good with a Superman who kills. The Classic Superman? Doesn't kill. But if this is your new version and your new version kills? Fine. But let me know who your new version is.

Instead this movie goes "This isn't your daddy's pussy ass, bitch Superman! This is our new tortured badass Superman!"

Okay. What's this new character's deal. Let me get to know him.

"Pfft, get to know him? The fuck are you talking about? This is SUPERMAN. Everyone knows Superman."

Okay, well the Superman I know doesn't behave like this at all.

"THIS ISN'T THE PUSSY SUPERMAN THAT YOU KNOW!"

ad infinitum.

There's no real character, there's no real story. It's just a lot of pontificating in between Zack Snyder blowing shit up like an edgelord with a sugar rush.

The worst part is there's so much potential. If you had made Zod a surrogate father figure and someone Superman cared about BEFORE the turncoat? That could've worked and would've given the "Krypton had its chance" scene more impact because it would've felt like a hard choice. Same with the neck-break scene.

Scenes in this movie just happen so we can get exposition. There's never an attempt to breathe life or character in to these cardboard cutouts.

And the flashback scenes are redundant. Every single one of them is about how he's lonely because he's weird and different. The only worthwhile one is the one where his Mom teaches him how to keep his shit together.

Honestly, you just convinced me a 40 min recut of the movie like an HBO pilot would be pretty kino

It was a great movie, no one disputes that. The problem is that Superman doesn't kill and Zack thinks that killing = realism. Instead of listening to the fans that know the source material Zack went off and DOUBLED DOWN on the exact edginess that people didn't want.

"Oh you know that Superman doesn't kill often based on the comics I didn't read?" "Too bad, here watch Batman gun down common thugs and paid mercenaries like nothing as I continue to shit on your 'source material'" -Zack Snyder

The fight scenes and soundtrack was pure kino. I just wish Snyder wasn't a complete retard.

>It's not your normal capeshit movie. It focuses on the characters more than the action.
And one of those characters is Jesse Eisenberg.

Your point about Jor-El is stupid.

People hate what they don't understand. MoS is a legitimate 10/10 masterclass in cinema.