Behind the Curve (2018)

I heard the history of the modern flat earth society started out as a rhetorical technique among professional debaters to test their skills. The idea was they would pick the most ludicrous idea they could think of and try and defend it. The problem was they got so good at it that dumb asses actually started believing them

So according to this Tasmania is closer to the ice wall than New Zealand is ? These people really are insane

Some sure. But it's more just collective dementia and people wanting to belong to a community and feel special.

The flat earth movement is basically the poster child for:
>Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company

Yes. You could literally fly a flat earther into space where they see the globe and they'll still believe they are right.

I won't underestimate ignorance and stupidity.

Is Flat Earth a modern example for Occams razor?

So what's the point of keeping Earth's true form a secret?

>When you spend 20k on a gyroscope just to prove the earth is rotating

That isn't too bad, it's the fact they refuse to believe the result it gives them.

At one point one of the crazier people they talk to says he believes it’s a plot by the public school system (and by extension I guess the US government? He doesn’t say this, that’s me inferring) to keep people dumb and easy to manipulate

>muh keeping people subservient and dumb
Or something to that effect. Kinda ironic when you think about it.

Fucking based!

Why would the government spend money on schools if they wanted to keep people dumb? It's not like most Americans could afford private schools.

No wonder school funding in my country is so shit. They have to spend most of it trying to maintain a conspiracy with more than a million active participants from ever leaking any info to the public. Now that's a lot of bribes and stonewalling needed.

Don't you see. It's not learning, it's propaganda! Propaganda to keep people in the dark.

>so these people are clearly all mentally ill
no, it's just that people realized media loves reporting on people who thing earth is flat. they know that scientists are obsessed with flat earthers and are trying to make a buck off the craze. this shit gets more coverage than fucking UFOs nowadays.

just a cheap scam...people don't realize that people will do anything to make money. but goyim eats it up.

Because Mike Sergeant Needs Friends
Even by the end of the documentary you can tell he doesn’t really give a shit if the earth is flat or not, he outright says it, not that he needs to because it’s so obvious
He needs a community of people to believe it’s flat so they’ll idolize him
The chick needs it to be flat so she’ll get people to listen to her radio show
The mapmaker guy needs it to be flat so he’ll be able to keep funding his art projects (that bike had nothing to do with flat earth)
The older scientist guy needs it to be flat so he can be looked at as the intelligent one with the proof
The younger scientist guy needs it to be flat to find his Patreon and podcast
The doc happened to find six people who all benefit personally socially and financially from the earth being flat. You wanna know what the average flat earth person is like, look to that one guy they only briefly stopped in with, the guy who started talking about weird delusional religious beliefs as well and would go around to random restaurants harassing people like a schizophrenic.
It’s very easy to become king of the crazies, but hey, a crown’s a crown.

That Nathan guy's facebook group he mentions in the documentary is comedy fucking gold, a bottomless pit of hilarity. I browse it every morning while drinking coffee.

The Flat Earth Society was clearly made to discredit any actual discussion about how we have been lied to about the true nature of our reality. They are a group that intentionally makes terrible arguments so that opponents of flat earth can point to them and muddy the waters of actual debate.

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It’s almost like that’s retarded and doesn’t make any sense

flat earthers are more sane than trannies or jannies.

If you check the group mentioned in the documentary, it's mostly demented boomers and young negroes.

Even if we have been lied to and the Earth is flat, what difference does it end up making

The current people that spearhead it are just grifters trying to scam money, but historically it was people that in no way believed the earth was flat, but just wanted to sharpen their debate skills

It's a gateway to showing that we could be lied to about anything, look at the moon landing hoax. What's worse is that people who question our reality are shunned as being mentally ill or just plain dumb. This visceral reaction to someone questioning something as innocuous as what shape the earth takes is proof that the consequences of objecting to any mainstream narrative is the modern day equivalent to complete social ostracism. This is all intentional.

When they first activated GPS, the American military insisted that the calculations using relativity could be bypassed because they thought General Relativity was nonsense.
American understanding of the Universe is at the level of a cargo cult.
Americans really are that stupid, and worse, a lot of them are "educated", meaning they are able to eloquently defend their lunacy.

That’s because if you believe in something like that it’s a strong indicator that the person is at best stupid and gullible, or at worst unhinged and dangerous. That’s why people like this are mocked or shunned

The whole thing started out as just a thought experiment to point out just how far removed our daily lives are from something considered so tantamount to science and the world at large.

Then came the retards.

> ITT globecucks.

>if you believe in something like that it’s a strong indicator that the person is at best stupid and gullible, or at worst unhinged and dangerous
I would disagree. Accepting on mere faith that you couldn't be lied to about something that you have personally seen no proof of makes you much more gullible or stupid.

They literally believe god and Jesus are hanging out and looking at us like it's a window.

>the American government is keeping people in the dark
There are 2 problems with this line of thinking:
1. The idea that the Earth is round/a globe predates the founding of America
2. Surely rival nations with space-faring technology like Russia and China would leap at the opportunity to humiliate America by proving the world is flat?

>innocuous as what shape the earth
That's just the thing. It's not innocuous. It's basically questioning every scientific advancement made in the last few millennia.
It's basically the same as questioning our entire reality.

It's one thing to question clandestine actions of a government, large corporation or industries. It's another to haphazardly with no evidence try to rewrite reality as we know it and act surprised when people resist it.

That’s the great thing about science: you shouldn’t accept it on blind faith, and it can be proven.

Completely disingenuous. Maintaining a viewpoint after it has been conclusively proven and verified as absurd numerous times is simply arrogant and childish, and being aggressively ignorant should not be false flagged as some kind of virtue. Resisting the status quo's consensus, arguing and debating their assertions, is absolutely healthy and necessary in any society. However, there has go to be a line somewhere. A barometer for sufficient evidence needs to be agreed upon. For flat earthers and people who think the moon landing is fake, there is no amount of proof that is substantial enough, nor is there any point at which a total lack of evidence is a hindrance to maintaining a view point. They are doing the very thing they accuse the status quo of doing, they are refusing to acknowledge the possibility that they could be wrong. Giving any ludicrous theory unwarranted merit is not equivalent to "having an open mind", it's just being closed minded in a different way, especially if you demonize the scientific community as boorish bullies and never say die on some absurd conspiracist nonsense that was conclusively dismantled decades ago. "I'm just asking questions!" No you're not just asking questions. You're deliberately asking the wrong questions over and over and over again, refusing to acknowledge any evidence to the contrary, and those who crusade for actual truth are portrayed as liars and unethical toadies by your ilk. You deserve your ridicule, every last bit of it.

Again, it’s almost as if their theory is retarded and makes no sense

>no proof
Other than the mountains of proof that have existed for literal thousands of years? You're a fucking moron.

You should look into it bro.

All jokes aside if you think this shit is crazytown you should listen to mudfossil believers.

>seething globetard

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>The last scene before credits roll
I have hope, user

Protestants then:
>those stupid Catholics are retards for not believing Earth goes around the Sun
Protestants now:
>dude Earth is flat wake up, also I'm an atheist now

If the evidence for Earth spinning around the Sun is good enough for the Catholic church, it's good enough for me. Not because Catholics are dumb, but because the Vatican is rigid and careful with evidence and interpretation of scriptures.

>entire argument is systematically dismantled with little effort
>better resort to reaction memes and shitposts

Concave earth theory requires far less disregard for reality than flat earth. It still falls apart when you get to the cosmos, but it at least functions as a basic geographic model which flat earth does not.

The thing I find so interesting about this debate is how upset it makes people for someone to question something that is supposedly so easy to prove. Think about the emotional reaction you are having to someone questioning something that is apparently so obviously true. There are many other historical or scientific theories that are questioned without the same vitriol that is expressed against flat earthers. Why do you feel the need to correct others that has no effect on your life? What harm is it to you if someone believes some dumb theory? The truth, if you search your mind effectively enough, is that you have been conditioned not to question these ideas.

There are generally three types of flat earthers.
Religious boomers/larpers who are having a crisis living in a scientifically oriented society.

Profiteers who are either in it for the "fame", or who just want to make some cash selling ugly t-shirts and collecting patreon bucks.

Gullible people who get taken advantage of by the first two groups and are just looking for a place to belong and something to get obsessed with, like watching a nice box set, because their lives are a bit lacking.

looks pretty fuckin flat to me ya faggot

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Explain how timezones and gravity work, genius.

riddle me THIS, genius

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I think they do actually have an answer for that. It’s nonsense, but they believe the sun and moon revolve around the dome of their version of the earth and creates the time zones we experience. This all falls apart when you start talking about tidal patterns and heat radiation from the sun obviously, but they DO have a response- this ain’t their first rodeo

youtube.com/watch?v=lmBh-WZzjIg

You forgot shitposters that enjoy baiting autists into defending something that is basic scientific fact.

someone post the scene where theyre at nasa and struggle to use a simulator for about a minute, then quit announcing its broken and walk off then the camera man zooms onto the start button that they missed

Of course. But this is all just to discredit actual conspiracy theorists.

Just another pysop

No, that is not the truth. For one thing, it's unreasonable to assume that anyone who writes a paragraph of text was driven to do so by anger, but sure, I find it kind of irritating. And the fact that you portray it as evidence that I just don't like people questioning things is rather conclusive evidence towards my point, since you are not acknowledging the possibility that you might be wrong any more than I am, perhaps even less. I find it irritating because you portray yourselves as these open minded crusaders seeking truth when you're actually crusaders for aggressive ignorance working towards the further non-progress of society. It's also part of a growing modern trend where no one can even agree on what reality is anymore because everyone just sees what they want to see and gathers info from biased sources. But you criticize everyone ELSE for that as if you're not also doing it, as if you don't also get all your sources and information from flat earth conspiracy websites that aren't unbiased in the least. It's your hypocrisy I find obnoxious, and your unwillingness to have an actual debate while simultaneously criticizing the rest of the world for not being willing to debate with you. It's not that we don't want to debate, it's that we don't want to waste time on someone who will resort to mind games out the gate and will never even entertain the possibility they might be wrong or mistaken regardless of any evidence or rationale to the contrary that is presented. You can't rationalize someone out of a position they did not rationalize themselves into. And that's the ultimate heart of the matter, you don't maintain the flat earth theory out of any desire for the pursuit of truth or because your conscience can't live with the lies, that's all completely fabricated. It's actually because you want to be the smartest person in the room, and the only way to do that is to portray anyone with a greater knowledge base than you as a liar or a sheep.

oh, you're a troll. okay. thanks for letting me know.

You can structure paragraphs user. Reddit spacing is just a myth.

It's probably a disinfo operation to discredit by association anybody who questions the 'official' version of events around any given incident.

The flat earth thing exploded out of nowhere there's obviously an organization behind the curtain pushing and amplifying it.

Because it is so stupid is why you get so obsessed about it.
Flat earth is a bit like finding two retarded stoners on the bus or subway talking about a common misconception and you are fighting every urge in your body to walk up to them and correct them and call them retarded.

Only in this case it's the internet so you can freely call them retarded.

>running out of arguments this quickly
the absolute state of globecucks

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it's not my fault you overplayed your hand

>people aren't stupid, the government just wants you to think they are

no, they're actually by in large really really stupid.

Flat-Earthers don't believe in space. Thus, that photo is faked, because it was taken from space.
In all seriousness, we are extremely tiny in comparison to the Earth; that's why it appears flat to us.

Yeah. It's called the youtube algorithm followed by morning talk shows.

>they STILL believe the earth is a globe
i bet you're both american too huh

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>by in large
>in

If earth ain't flat then why are my shoes flat huh?

Checkmate globecucks.

>by in large
It’s by AND large, for all intensive purposes

The amount of proof is quite literally insurmountable you fucking degenerate, including stuff you can see with your own eyes every single day, such as the sunset.

I'm an Italian currently residing in Mexico.

I disagree. There's nothing organic about the recent flat earth phenomenon it's fairly obvious when a fad is being artificially manufactured vs legitimate popularity and this one stinks

>mudfossil believers.
Redpill me, I've never heard of this.

explainos why you-a sucha retardo globeboy

Oh... oh fuck.
*tears up diploma while sobbing*

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youtube.com/channel/UC8v44qrU_Fdd7UN_XlUMpew

You're in a for a treat.

Being open-minded IS questioning everything though user. It is not blindly accepting any reality proposed by some sort of authority, scientific or otherwise. The fact that you are irritated by your base assertions being probed is exactly what I'm getting at. How easy would it be to dismiss these theories as "conspiracies" or "outside the realm of reasonable discussion"? These ideas *should* be in that category but are still attacked with the same anger as something akin to questioning the holocaust. Ironically, the seeming insecurity of people who come out so strongly against someone arguing a flat earth position actually strengthens the idea that there is some validity to it.

Mountains are fossilized giants from the flood apparently.

Statues? Shit no those are living beings turned to stone. Mesas? Nah those the the severed ankles and feet of giants. Think that rock only kind of looks like an elephant? Pfft guess again.

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what the fuck man

Lmao I was talking to this girl that I thought seemed cool until she tried to tell me she believed in ancient giant trees or something? I went home and googled it, and it’s nonsense but apparently IS a thing people believe in. It’s mainly just people that don’t know shit about geology that see funny shaped plateaus and mesas and think they’re tree stumps

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They are completely crazy.

But when you think about it Earth has billions of people who believe is sky wizards and other retarded shit.

Humans are just dumb in general.

Because dumbness or dumb ideas can be passed to other people. See anti-vaccine people. Or see fakenews.
And considering some see this as truth and want to open the eyes of others it tries to spread "reality".
By logic if you encounter someone and you discuss with him, you try to help him and society.

>You see these conspiracy theorists are just part of a deeper conspiracy
Shut up and die

How does the night sky even function in the flat earth model?

Like wouldn't there be overlap at the edges of both seeing the same stars? Despite the fact that they are the farthest away from each other.
How come the stars move? Why could the ancient Britons see a constellation that is now only visible in the southern hemisphere? Does the starts scroll like some fucking conveyor belt?

flat earth is just part of a psyop to distract us from the ancient Jesus satellite, holding the whole of humanity in a time prison circa 30 AD, projecting hallucinations of modern reality into our minds

>although to be fair you have to have a pretty high IQ to understand Neil Degrasse Tyson

Nothing works in the flat earth model and I don't accept that anyone who isn't a nigger could actually be retarded enough to believe it. Supporters are either being paid or simply trolling.

There are things to be said about organic patterns shared throughout nature sure, but it's a hilariously bad conclusion. Apparently it's easier to believe giant trees touched the stratosphere than minerals forming hexagons.

How's this for ostracized: kill yourself you retarded faggot who is devoid of critical thinking skills.

I've always assumed it's a winking joke just to trigger people and be lulzy contrarian.

You proved his point nice going dumb butthurt redditor.

>implying volcanic columnar jointing isn't the remains of an ancient race of giant bees that once ruled the world and we are seeing the remains of their now fossilized hives

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That's what it started as. Then the actual retards came.
Granted on Yea Forums is still just people on trolling.

>it's 2019. your thoughts are dangerous and a threat to the social order, we must fight you. think about society and the scientific establishment! We must protect hillary clinton and neil degrasse tyson

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Again, kill yourself. Now. Don't think, just plunge the knife in. You're the cancer killing the world.

Well, you tried user.

Without scrolling to see the pic of the flat Earth doc I assumed this was a thread about trannies.

Nothing works. They say lunar eclipses are caused by a second invisible moon.

NASA's origins are stranger than fiction whose founders were deeply embedded into the occult, so while I believe we landed on the moon and there's not really any reason to reject it, I don't necessarily call people that think it's a hoax crazy.

Flat earthers can fuck off though they're just a bunch of circle-jerking easily baited loons.

It doesn't hurt anybody to question reality

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It's not healthy for you to get worked up like that little guy, maybe find an online community with more thoughtful moderation practices?

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>Accepting on mere faith that you couldn't be lied to about something that you have personally seen no proof of makes you much more gullible or stupid.
Probably because the reverse is so absurd that it makes no sense. Literally hundreds of thousands of people, worldwide, must all be in on a conspiracy stretching back over a hundred years, and not one of them has ever talked, and they constantly fake the most mundane shit imaginable.

I can understand why some people buy into some conspiracies, but the flat earth is beyond nuts.

It does when you have no evidence for doing so and are just doing it to feel special or make money.

Flat Earth theory's founders were also deeply involved with Satanism. Look it up.

There's a world of difference between questioning the status quo and abandoning reason.

Well if even this falls on deaf ears , there is no hope. Not for user, not for humanity.

>It does when you have no evidence for doing so and are just doing it to feel special or make money.
Still no.
Yes, but indoctrinating brainless npc redditors to react with pure blind rage to "abandoning reason" feeds into preventing the first.

>Literally hundreds of thousands of people, worldwide
Try tens of millions. Every scientist, pilot, sailor, etc have to be in on it.

Oddly enough there's not really much in the Bible regarding Satan. He's basically catholic fan fiction.

The founders of flat earth theory have nothing to do with the recent manufactured flat earth phenomenon. The internet has hosted every conspiracy theory imaginable since the 90's but nobody gave a shit about flat earth until a few years ago.

first time it took me a week to watch a movie on the netflix. The shit puked up by the single digit faggots made me cringe to the point
The red head in it is hot and cucked some beta flat earther. I wouldn't be surprised if she uses the cons to ara ara some young bucks
>tfw i would still stick my dick in crazy vegan

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>Okay, so these people are clearly all mentally ill, right?
yes

They are still not as mentally ill as trannys or faggots yet the media celebrates them as the new god's

I'm going to miss Jazz threads though.

I mean sure, but he’s fun though, right? He’s like reverse Santa Claus. You can see why people long ago would want to make up a guy like that to make sense of their world they didn’t really understand at the time.

People who become convinced the world is somehow utterly fabricated also tend to wind up believing that they're at the centre of it, and then they have a psychotic break and start killing people because they don't believe them to be real, or they're convinced it's the only way to break the simulation.

Our world might very well be a fabricated simulation, hell, maybe we all are on a flat earth because the scientist in charge thought it'd be funny, even though it massively increases the computing costs. Whenever any "real" actor tries to find evidence that the Earth is flat, the very fabric of reality is altered so they can't find any proof.

But thinking this way is madness. Because maybe you are part of some mad scientist's jape, but there's literally nothing you can do. It's like an ant in an ant farm trying to rebel against a glass prison that includes everything he needs and wants, and has no ability to break. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, this dumb simulated monkey brain is all you have. Even if this whole universe is just a dream in the mind of a 4th dimensional being, and in 5 minutes you will wake up, and briefly remember being everyone and everything contained within this universe, it won't have any impact on that being. All your whining, all your lunacy, it's just another grain of sand on a beach that stretches out wider than our solar system, and it'll be promptly forgotten when he goes to his 4th dimensional job.

Are they gone now?

If the Earth is a globe why don't Australians just fall into the empty void of space where they belong?

Is is pretty funny that flat earth is such a retarded conspiracy, that the flat earth conspiracy itself begin a conspiracy is more logical.

>People who become convinced the world is somehow utterly fabricated also tend to wind up believing that they're at the centre of it, and then they have a psychotic break and start killing people because they don't believe them to be real, or they're convinced it's the only way to break the simulation.
Nice fantasy, did the other 14 year olds on reddit like it too?

I saw flat earthers back i'd say 5-7 years. They used to lurk on forums and facebook for awhile
Then youtube decided to change the way videos are recommended . Giving them a way to spread their cancer to some shit for brains who gets science from some old fart who looks like one eye uncle cletus
It's the same thing with anti-vaxxers. Well,kinda the same. Anti-vaxxers were fortunate to have the greens push their horse shit before jewtube jumped onto this shit.

The current theory is that vigorousness of the thrust of them constantly fucking sheep in the opposite direction is what propels them foreword. If they stop fucking sheep for even a second we may lose them. Thankfully there’s no sign of that slowing in the slightest

It brought us heavy metal and The Gate.

What's your favorite version of hell though? I like Bill & Ted's.

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you're describing serious mental illness, which you cannot give yourself by doing thought experiments about reality

That's new zealanders you fucking mong.

They're fewer in number. Here's hoping we get another impending train wreck to watch soon.

>questioning the status quo
>anything the majority agrees on is just a lie perpetuated by those in power
>I must prove them wrong
>if they say the earth is a globe, then it must be a lie as well
let me guess, you spent your childhood being an outcast

How does that hurt anyone?

The real 2000 IQ realization is that we are all just a computer simulation

basedlon basedmusk truly is the most super genius of all time right? basedlon needs to rule humanity instead of republicans or drumpf or russia.

What are your favourite flat earth arguments?
>muh boat reappears even after going over the "horizon" when I look into a telescope

Simulation theory has no value whatsoever. The objective-subjective dichotomy makes it impossible to even explore the notion. We might as well question if characters in a book can ever know they're written on a page.

I feel like brainlets can easily jump to the wrong conclusions, though, and easily endanger themselves and others.

If you work it all through, if you can understand the concepts, it's fine. But if you get hung up on conspiracy shit, I feel like there's a chance that regular, moron Joe can actually start believing that his boss is lying to him about the world, and when you start doubting people, you can start doing some fucked up shit.

I think it has some value in terms of finding the fundamental limitations of our universe, but yeah, as far as philosophy goes it's a fucking dead end.

>let me guess, you spent your childhood being an outcast
What if I just spent my childhood listening to OutKast? Alright?

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That doesn't add up. I'm skeptical about a lot of stuff and I don't recall ever seeing a flat earth video in my bar.

What? Questioning shit is fine and welcomed. Bandwagoning on a provably false conspiracy and ignoring detractors is not.

I honestly have no idea what you're referring to

This is my favorite one. Can you imagine if there was also many suns, each hovering over other patches of Earth like ours?
The global shitstorm when people found out, the mysteries of what the fuck our planet is, the new age of discovery towards the rest of the ice ball.
I wish this shit was real. Life has no sense of wonder anymore.

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Yeah that's true. Ultimately it comes down to the old why is there something instead of nothing question, which creeps me out the more I think about it.

Flat earth conspiracy theorists are just like every other conspiracy theorist. Mentally ill.

>Moon landing was faked
>US government did 9/11
>Trump colluded with Russia
>Hollow earth
>Flat earthers

If you've ever entertained any of these, you are mentally ill.

This model is almost literally what Xenoblade's universe is.

I never beat any of those games, is that for real how it ends? Fuck! What a gyp

It's not about the earth being flat or not. It's about how you just "know" that the earth is round but you've never seen it for yourself or even tried to prove it. If suddenly all scientists or whatever said that the earth was flat everyone would believe it without question.

>Ultimately it comes down to the old why is there something instead of nothing question,
But this is pretty easily solved with "because otherwise we wouldn't be here to observe it". It's like trying to work out why conditions seem so "perfect" on Earth for life, it's because if the planet wasn't this ideal, we wouldn't have evolved in the first place to remark on how perfect it seems.

Because the implication is that if the earth is flat then you're in a simulation right now.

Especially those conspiracy theories about cover-up of catholic sex abuse or US gov plans to fake cuban terrorist attacks.
Those people literally need to be locked up in insane asylums.

There's no such implication, simulation theory is it's own thing go be retarded somewhere else

You seem upset

Pretty much if it's even a remote probability it could happen it will, and the fact that we're here means it did, but we're forced to take it at face value since we'll probably never know the underlying mechanism that allows probability to begin with.

isn't this just the infinite plane theory with being attached to a ball?

They are but it's not flat earth.

These people genuinely believe this, but the fact it's given so much media coverage is to discourage investigation of more mundane (but real) conspiracy.

But its true, there is literally no proof the earth is a globe

There are so many hard counters to flat earth It's not really possible for any sane person to believe it. As you say, it's an artificial theory to discredit by association. It's similar to the ridiculous holographic plane "theory" which only exists to discredit the 911 skeptics.

>spherecucks are so insecure they feel the need to make movies to defame people who think for themselves

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Honestly, it boils down to spirituality. Like, we might eventually as a species be capable of seeing the walls of our universe, it's pretty unlikely but maybe it's possible. But the walls of the universe a level above us? Or the one that's probably levels above that? They're an impossibility, because the further down into simulated universes you go, the more simplified things must become. It's like an ant trying to understand why the boy holds a magnifying glass, the ant kingdom could put their best scholars to work for millennia, and they'll never figure out the answer.

>time zones
Pic related.
>gravity
Gravity doesn't exist. Earth is not in space. Things that are denser than air just fall. That's just how the world works.

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Lmao

Why can't I just look up and see the sun at all times? What the fuck is happening when it sets?

Your eyes can only see so much. When the sun goes far enough away, it appears as if it is setting.

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Globetards are pathetic
>HURR DUUUH MEDIA LIES TO US
>HURR DUUUH JEWS CONTROL MEDIA
>HURR DUUUH MEDIA TOLD ME EARTH IS ROUND
fuck off you bunch of mongs, maybe one day you will wake up and see what flatchads see

you mean because it goes beyond the horizon?

Why can't you see the sun at night using a telescope then?

For that to make any sense, the sun would have to be further away than the stars. Can you explain why my telescope can't resolve what should just be small LED points in the sky at the same kind of focal range that I can get for the sun?

Universal should buy this documentary just so they can have their logo as the intro.

>he thinks the jewiscope doesnt lie

what's pathetic is your shitty tempt at trolling

>still shilling this instead of /skybox/
I'm onto to you /glownigger/

I'm just wondering what kind of insane optics my telescope must posses to create some kind of inability to focus at a range of X (distance to the stars), but a perfect ability to focus at a range of X*2 (distance to sun) or X/2 (distance to your mom's window).

Seems like something that would be impossible to achieve.

Fucking idiot. Refute this then youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs
Just because we dont believe a fucking globetard vision of earth doesnt mean we are trolling

People who believe flat earth are insane. Much like Alex Jones, 9/11 theorists, Trump collusion theorists, or Sandy Hook deniers, they are fucking insane and shouldn't be entertained.

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It's very frustrating. Even if we can pinpoint a hard known limitation on this front, the universe is both infinitely microscopic and macroscopic which may have a different limitation altogether

refute what exactly?

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Pretty simple really

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They can fit a TV into something I bought for 10 bucks? I mean, I just opened up my telescope, it doesn't look like there's anything in it but 2 clear lenses.

But hey, maybe they put the TV as a thin layer inside one of them when you start looking up, right? You'd think circuitry like that might have been useful for other fields though.

Trying too hard.

>Mesas? Nah those the the severed ankles and feet of giants
Actually they're the stumps of World Trees cut down by the Titans.

Five.

4. Schitzophrenics
5. Shitposters here who pretend to believe, to get a rise out of people.

You can't take anything at face value on this shithole of a site, you either buy into their narrative and play the shitpost back game, or you just laugh at the more clever larps.

While I believe there are mentally ill people who post here, I think the vast majority is just high level shitposting.

Yeah, I've seen a sunset just yesterday.

The shadow the planet casts on the moon would be a triangle, if that were true.

At the very least, the shadow on the moon requires a round shape.

(And, it's a globe. If it weren't, none of the science predicated on it being a sphere would work.)

>vast majority
Maybe once user, but nowadays, eh.
You know what they say

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He's basically destined to be the ruler of Mars and most people don't even realize that.

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was he talking about /pol/ when he said this?

aneurysm: the post

Fuck knows what he's talking about, I'm talking about the whole site. Especially /pol/ though

>Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company
very insightful, thx

Being intelligently open-minded also includes distinguishing between questions that are a worthvile pursuit to pondee upon, and questions which just needlessly expend mental effort for no discernible gain whatsoever. Proof lies all around us, especially in a world where we can literally look at the other side if the planet through the internet, and where we can travel most anywhere and recreate well-known scientific experiments on our own. Besides, only beleiving what our own eyes see isn't how mankind accumulated and passed on all its knowledge: there comes a point where you just gotta take someone else's word for a thing.

>mark got worked

Has there ever been a better flattard beatdown in the history of YT?
youtu.be/XONAgf9Eg9U

obviously

Is this on Netflix?

There is but if I searched for it on YouTube now the algorithm would start recommending me flat earthier videos against, so fuck that.

He's smarter than to lead. His OpenAI will tho.

Kino post

Basically this.

I can't tell what this could even mean. Do you think that telescopes have magical properties that trick your eye? Do you think the lenses are fake? Do you think the sky is omniscient (and magical) and can know when it's being observed and make itself appear as (((they))) want you to see it?
Are you baiting me right now?

This is the modern day equivalent of Big Foot hunters.

Do you know who it was by? I might be able to find it for you

The flat earth(formerly spherical)

This makes me diamonds

Big think here

This should make you question the true relationship of these countries, not presidents, dictators etc but who are the true world leaders.

We are indoctrinated on how the world works from a very young age, taught the world is round by our teachers. Do you think any of those teachers are not just regurgitating what they are told? Well, scientist do the same thing.

>who are the true leaders
You are. All of these conspiracies are secretly just forms of unchanneled egoism. Your culture teaches you false modesty and this is the way your ego finds its way around that to still feel like a god. You're the smart person, the critical thinker who found the great secret, in a world full of complacent sheep.

It's a power fantasy.

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I think it was hbomberguy.

Because there are valuable untapped resources like coal and oil beyond the ice wall known as Antarctica.

Why would you leave them untapped?

FUCK

my life is a lie

Same reason DeBeers keeps the supply of diamonds low. To keep the price high.

Sorry not just resources but also undiscovered land. This undiscovered country would interest everyone. As for leaving it untapped for now we do not have the proper methods to get it from there to here yet. There are videos on YouTube of a former navy admiral talking about this. Admiral Byrd.

Hey, I fixed your picture for you mate.

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Only 20 minutes in but this is pure kino. I never knew flat earthers were so stupid

>I never knew flat earthers were so stupid
Gee, who'da thunk that

>possibly hollow

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>(possibly hollow)
I actually chuckled.

It's also Hunter x hunter's. It's just a giant megacontinent full of dinosaurs rather than ice.

I mean i knew they obviously were dumb as fuck for not believing the earth is round but i never knew it went as deep as them thinking the government are in cahoots and have a secret fortress in Antarctica and thats why you cant go to it because thats where they hold their secret meetings

Contrarianism has never been funnier.

If you want to create your own reality then having an infinite universe full of a googleplex of galaxies each with billions of stars achieves the same purpose. You can have your fun exploration in reality, too.

Flat Earthers should just admit they are Christians who are afraid of Space.

>flat earthers believe the flat earth is part of a globe
There belieifs have become meta

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So they keep this undiscovered land with tons of resources in secret because it would interest everyone. And every government is in on it.
Even the Chinese who would probably do anything to get ahead.
Not to mention every space agency and satellite is sending obviously fake pictures back to earth and no scientist thought something like "I have tons of evidence, maybe I should just make this thing public like that Snowden guy!"

>Flat Earthers should just admit they are Christians who are afraid of Space.
They're also afraid of admitting that Ashtar Sheran's Galactic Command has been shaping out history since time immemorial and will be the saviors of humanity.

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The most interesting thing about byrd is not the huge veins of coal but the "warm" inland areas of antarctica he videoed free of snow and with unfrozen lakes.

Kek, even new agers exclude flat earthers. They have metaphysical explanations as to why these people "feel like" the Earth is flat, most to do with the ascension timeline and people's first time experience feeling connected to the "template level reality".

>believing in the idea that the world is a globe and that we've been to space isn't a sign of Jewish indoctrination
That's gonna be a Yikes from me.

thanks for the you, now i can leave the thread

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>there's people on this board who think the earth is round
wew lad

>we do not have the proper methods to get [natural resources] from there to here yet
Are you saying planes can't reach these resources? In that case it's merely a logistical problem that could easily be remedied with a bit of time and money. Is it that drills can't penetrate through the ice to reach the resources? I find that hard to believe, as the only major obstacles we face with deep earth drilling aren't really issues with ice drilling. Is it that we can get the oil out of the ground, and we can get the planes to the oil, but it's not cost effective? I would believe this one, but then why hide or restrict access? Private enterprises could do the work necessary to find cost effective ways of getting resources from beyond the ice wall if they knew where to look, and then the government(s) wouldn't need to waste their time and money trying to tackle the problem themselves.
Can you elaborate on this point without recommending me a Youtube video, or trading it out entirely for another explanation as to why these resources remain unexploited?

This, flat earth shit was a psudeoconspiracy for quite a while. Right around the 2010s, or more specifically around the time of the initial wikileaks releases, the CIA began an internet psy-op to completely discredit all ‘conspiracy theorys’ using flat earth as a face. It’s found marginal success, we’re now getting a consistent flow of this flat earthers are retarded content for years. By default trying to gather or share any information on any ‘conspiracy theory’ is generally shut down instantly by people who are aware of moronic flat earth people they laughed at on late nite tv and youtube

That's a bingo. They've done it before with the holographic airliners too

You idiot, some of the most important and intelligent people alive today have been hypothesizing the artificial nature of our reality for decades. They aren’t shooting schools you absolutely brainless retard.
Imagine typing 4 paragraphs on Yea Forums just to prove you’re fucking stupid.

dude spirit science lmao

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The bottom line is even if they had/have complete access to these areas it would be remained as highly confidential info I assume for the greater good of humanity. That is the only logical conclusion I have ever been able to come with. Possibly an attempt to keep any amateur travelers trying to discover for themselves. It could be a million reasons as why to hide this from the public for now but if you are really interested and continue to dig deeper for yourself you will start to really question everything you have been taught before.

>Anubis (god of death) with an Ankh (symbol of life) nosering

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I wanted to slam Patricia Steele pretty bad

>Uh look into it bro
Come on, user.

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>how do I gravity
I am afraid to find out if this post is trolling or genuine.

Oh I definitely see a problem here. Whoever made this image is clearly not using the superior time cube model.

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Flat Earth and anti-vaxxers get so much media attention because they really are just that retarded of theories. It's used to completely discredit other conspiracy theories that actually have some truth to them or are at least worth looking into.

Flat earthers and anti-vaxxers are clearly controlled opposition through useful idiots, in order to distract the greater public at large from actual suspicions which would have merit.

Let's not get into the time cube schizophrenia.

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>tfw too dumb to get the time cube

I thought Seth was god of death?

All the information I have learned on it I looked it up myself. A lot of the videos on YouTube can explain it better than me anyways. Why not go there? Here I will link a good one for you to start at.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=G8aV1wgiB2Q

>conspiracy about the cnospiracy
outrage sells and you live in a capitalism

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When was glass invented?

How would an eclipse ever happen?

Chaos.

Anubis (/əˈnjuːbJs/;[1] Ancient Greek: Ἄνουβις, Egyptian: jnpw, Coptic: ⲁⲛⲟⲩⲡ Anoup) is the Greek name of a god associated with mummification and the afterlife in ancient Egyptian religion

>Set /sɛt/ or Seth /sɛθ/ (Egyptian: stẖ; also transliterated Setesh, Sutekh,[1] Setekh, or Suty) is a god of chaos, the desert, storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion.[2]

circa 1700 BC

>tfw no demonic time cube

there's nothing to get. It's literally nonsensical to everyone except the schizo who came up with it

Sethchad is cooler anyway. Anubtards are beta FACT

When God created the earth and the firmament obviously

>Eric Dubay
Good chat user, I hope you find the truth.

They believe the sun and moon can self-eclipse.

>not Thoth
Pleb.

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>proof 125
>125
>125
Jesus.

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>noodle arms
>lmaonolegs
>womans waist
No.

This is some weapons grade retardation.

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>if the equator is the hottest place on earth
>center of the hottest belt is clearly several degrees north of the equator
????????

>(northern hemisphere)
And what about the Southern Hemisphere?

I was a disbeliever too until I actually looked at the evidence.

Does not exist.

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>gravity
youtube.com/watch?v=QIT_SbigQ3c

>what is a sidereal day versus a solar day

spherecucks BTFO

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That literally is where it is warm though. It is called a "celestial equator."

Like this is literally the case of pseudo-scientific strawman.

how do time zones curve if there's one sun on a flat plane?

>Does not exist
Be mental if it did exist though and you'd have to explain how can it be summer in Australia while its winter in UK haha

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>equal amounts of sunlight over Alaska and Antarctica as the rest of the world

Yikes.

This diagram doesn't explain the phenomena of polar nights and polar days, in which 4-6 months out of the year are nothing but constant sunlight or constant darkness due to the tilt of the Earth's axis in the extreme latitudes, which apparently don't exist according to flat earthers.

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I love flat Earth and young Earth creationism threads. Pure comedy.

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Don't conflate all those people/conspiracies user.

That's exactly what (((they))) want.

>tiny drop vs a fucking ocean
Go pee on your carpet and see if surface tension keeps it from making your mum mad about having to replace it.

Watch and marvel at how I am about to get flattards to deny literal video evidence without any explanation as to why it's wrong:
youtu.be/tOCodgq1oM8

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You said water always lies flat, I provided you evidence where this was not the case. Get dabbed on, flatfag.

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I'm telling you. Flat earthers are just stealthy christians. You let them go on for long enough eventually they'll start talking about their firmawhatever.

The point is that it is supposed to be retarded, because they want to be unique snowflakes, the chosen people of their god. So Earth is unique while everything else in the observable universe takes the form of a sphere in vacuum.

It is a desperation to not be "insignificant little specs of dust in an infinitely uncaring universe", even though only they it reality that way. Everyone else marvels at the beauty of it.

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you're tricks don't work here, globey

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>tricks
You've never seen a water droplet before?

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>less than a minute

Touché, René.

You can't explain the disparity between science and spherecuck "theories".

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Earth is actually donut shaped!

>flat earthers believe there's just a binary wall between atmosphere and no atmosphere
bruh, look at this dood

If you climb mount Everest, will the atmosphere be at the same pressure as it was when you were at sea level? Yes or no, please answer.

I stopped buying into flat faggot lies after this one kid suddenly sperged out in the middle of a debate on TV that he's afraid that if God isn't protecting the Earth with a glass globe then meteorites can just wipe us out at any point and that's scary.

These are people that were scard of rock music and d&d ,of fucking course they'll be scared of infinite space.

It's troyan horse.

There's no way to prove that either way, seeing as pressure meters are affected by altitude.

>seeing as pressure meters are affected by altitude
...becasue of pressure.

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>seeing as pressure meters are affected by altitude
200IQ post right there

youtube.com/watch?v=2gFsOoKAHZg

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>pressure meters are affected by altitude
No shit you fucking retard. Why do you think they read a lower pressure when at a higher altitude?

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The diagram I was criticising literally has sunlight over both Antarctica and Alaska at all times. You posted the exact same diagram as a rebuttal.

Okay so imagine there was this thing called gravity and this other thing called mass. Now imagine if these tint teeny particles you cant see are called molecules, these molecules make up everything and depends on the property fall into 1 of 3 categories; gas, liquid and solid.
Now because each of these properties are different we can assign some very basic general rules to them which are backed up by evidence. Lets say we come to the conclusion that in its basic form a solid is heavier than a liquid and a liquid is heavier than a gas. So now we know that gravity is a thing we can assume that a solid can not float and neither can a liquid because of their density, a gas "floats" it still has a mass but it is so minuscule that gravities effect on it isnt as apparent. Thus the gas will still be effected by gravity yet it is still floating about to a certain point before gravities effect lets it just go off into space. what you see is the atmospheric structure.
If you dont believe me you can do an experiment, i take it that you probably vape, so go into your room and vape away, vape those ridiculously big clouds you love and after you are finished and you sit in your vape filled room, look up and i bet there is a clear line where the vape cloud floating around wont go above, this is because of gravity my friend

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This would heat up the Antarctic during fucking winter by this model.

How can anyone take this shit seriously?

>i take it that you probably vape
underrated burn

No they really are. You wouldn't take one underwater and then complain about there being a higher reading.

It's honestly amazing how dumb you guys are.

That's because of different densities. I take it that you've never heard of this thing called "physics".

nigga what the fuck are you trying to say

>You wouldn't take one underwater and then complain about there being a higher reading
Because pressure increases with depth as there is more water above you the deeper you go. It's the exact same with the atmosphere and air. The more air above you the higher the atmospheric pressure is. Why do you think climbers need oxygen tanks above certain altitudes? Why do you think plane cabins are pressurised?

You mean the same physics that proves the earth is round? Yeah I think ive heard of it

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>accidentally find evidence for the curvature of earth using extremely sensitive (and expensive) instruments
>"it's just picking up the 'ether' of the heavens lol"
they're all delusional and just feel super special latching on to some brainlet conspiracy
also lmao at the incel still living with his mom at 40 or w/e, his old red head friend is literally begging him to make a move on her but he's way too pathetic to try

Define weight mathematically

did Mike fuck the radio host?

That's because there needs to be a certain amount of pressure to make you not explode. That proves the Earth is flat since no amount of pressure would mean everyone on Earth would explode into a thin red mist as all the air escapes into space.

E = m * c(squared)
Therefore
m = E / c(squared)

The climbers are clearly in on the conspiracy. The mermaid mafia is paying them in leprechaun gold to pretend it. And airplanes aren't real. It's actually just a VR box while you are getting teleported by a machine fueled with holy water.

No it doesn't. The fact that people are irritated by your nonsense doesn't mean they're about to crack, it just means they're irritated by your nonsense. You blindly accept the flat earther's version of reality so you're in no position to criticize anyone else for following blindly.

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everyone knows the earth is a cube

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>define weight mathematically
>defines mass instead
You're not very smart are you?

fossilized ancient giant world trees are my favorite conspiracy theory desu

Can a flat earther give me an explanation for seasons, ignoring all of your (((northern hemisphere only))) models can you explain why we have cold days in summer and hot days in winter sometimes?

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thinking you're a woman has some basis in reality since women are a real thing that do exist and which gender you are assigned basically comes down to random chance, so I'd say people who think the planet we live on is a disc are the more insane lot. That's like saying a car is a giraffe.

>That's because there needs to be a certain amount of pressure to make you not explode
?
>That proves the Earth is flat since no amount of pressure would mean everyone on Earth would explode into a thin red mist as all the air escapes into space.
No, the fact that pressure decreases with altitude proves that there is a pressure gradient, therefore the pressure simply decreases with altitude until there is none left. That's what gradients tend to do.

Mass is related to weight, even a school child knows that. Mass related to your volume defines your density which is what pulls you towards the Earth. Therefore the solution is that it's you being a fatass that makes you fall to the ground after I've punched your lights out rather than some satanic super-power-force making you fall down.

No that's what you realize when you're thirteen years old and you've just watched The Matrix for the first time

God did it

more evidence for that than a flat earth

Different densities explains the reason that the higher you go then the less oxygen there is then doesnt it?

Not at all, you can pour a layered cocktail and there's still nothing to drink on top of the topmost layer.

>Mass is related to weight, even a school child knows that.
Related to, but I didn't ask for what's related to weight. I asked you to define it mathematically, which you have failed to do.
>density which is what pulls you towards the Earth
How?

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But why would you fall anyway if there was no gravity?

Because of this thing that says heavier things go down. I didn't make the rules and if anything the theory of gravity is more proof for a flat Earth. Do you think that if we were on a spinning sphere things would stay put?

>there's still nothing to drink on top of the topmost layer
There's still air there, not a vacuum which is what we're discussing. If you believe the pressure doesn't slowly decrease to zero with the atmosphere, then where is the hard boundary between the atmosphere and the vacuum of space and what is the pressure differential?

Because there's pressure. You don't have that in space so it's actually impossible to go to space

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>Because of this thing that says heavier things go down
What thing? Define "heavier" mathematically.
>if anything the theory of gravity is more proof for a flat Earth
No, flat earthers have to deny gravity's existence because it completely ruins their models.
>Do you think that if we were on a spinning sphere things would stay put?
Yes, given a slow enough rotational rate and large enough radius. What do you think the centrifugal force at the equator is? It's quite easy to calculate.

But why would pressure make you fall down?

I think the differential might be around 110kPascals and I think the boundary is somewhere around where Felix Baumgartner did his famous skydive.
Because it presses you down.

This theory is retarded but I like the idea of other other lands beyond our ice wall.

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So theres an invisible force keeping you pressed down?

>I think the differential might be around 110kPascals
Source?
>I think the boundary is somewhere around where Felix Baumgartner did his famous skydive.
Why?

>it presses you down
Why down? What causes it to act downwards? Why can't one float in a vacuum chamber?

Yes. Pressure. I find it hard to believe that you haven't heard of it.
Because that's around the pressure we can measure here.
Because while space missions are obviously false, Baumgartner clearly did his skydive. There's photographs and everything.