What does Yea Forums think of the ever growing attempt of Netflix of bringing politics into their productions?

>There is a black, gay, or woman character who doesn' even have to be a political character and you /pol/ crossposters are here shitting up the board

When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Stop being a hammer, have some variety of thought and focus, and stop obsessing over politics.

You guys have a pavlovian response at this point to even the most benign things because that is how you've trained your brain to operate through constant consumption of propaganda online meant to drive you into an emotional rage.

How to go from upper middle class to millonaires in 8 years, starring Barack and Mooch

Cool, Empire’s gonna be on Netflix.

They were millionaires before that because his book sold pretty well.

Politics ruins everything. I hate this era. We can’t just enjoy things any more. Everything has to push an agenda.

They are further turning Netflix into a spin-off for the Oprah Network at best at worst another BET or VH1

>politics doesn't influence art

Imagine being such a consumerist pleb that film is just funny colors on a screen

why is Obama's smile so creepy and evil looking?

because you disagree with his politics

why is it everyone else's fault you judge every production based on the script and casting

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>neocon warmonger
yeah you are probably right

>ever growing attempt of Netflix of bringing politics into their productions
>ever growing

Remind me what their financial situations was again?
Apparently it wasn't too good.

It's telling that I can't tell one /pol/ poster from another if they post in the same thread. They are really sheep.

This. The left wing has been replaced by another totalitarian nightmare.
Time to make the left great again?

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Just curious, would you tell a Jew in 1930s Germany to stop obsessing over politics?

Yeah, one side is inherently more liberal and owned by Disney while the other is still going strong without sucking conglomerate cock

Time to wipe the left off the face of the earth

Nah, you'd just condemn Germany and obey whatever the fed reserve controlled government says.

You need blue to balance the red.
But right now all we have are two shades of brown.

As opposed to the groupthink, sycophants liberal eh

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Because its those "everyone else" who make these pieces of media increasingly more political. You cant flood teens with a new topic and expect them to be bored with it by the time theyre adults: it governs everything thats happening around them.

Filmmakers are explicit that their scripts/casting are all about politics tho. Jordan Peele is really up front about his racial politics, you're the pleb if you refuse to engage with them.

i dont like when politics are put in shows desu

imagine bringing up ww2 crimes over tv and movies

I agree with you. It replaces entertainment with hate. i want it to end

The red side gets its color from bathing in blood. Pretty sure thats not the way you want things, with how long everyone bitched about white priv

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. When people in a show are making Trump jokes every five seconds that's not some Pavlovian response. Get your head out of your ass

When are Barack and Michael's shows coming out?

no, you're a pleb when you think a show is just the script and casting

>people in a show are making Trump jokes every five seconds

watch something else, idiot

Because they replace artistic ingenuity with some boring political opinion. It becomes noticeable when the cinematography, narrative, etc. is taking a nose dive all in the attempt to try and teach the viewer. It's like people think art is just inserting your worthless opinion into whatever medium you're working with and hoping that all the pieces fall into place. That's not how you make art. You make art by working within the medium, not bringing some alien viewpoint into it

When will Obama show come out? I looked forward to memes form it.

Do you really think the cast choices for the new Cowboy Bebop are ok?
If you do, please kill yourself on behalf of the fans of Cowboy Bebop that want a genuinely good adaptation of it.
I'm not going to watch a fucking adaptation with left stupidity ruining it. It's not even that politically charged as a series and it's already fucked from this political faggotry.
All it is doing is pushing more people right.

It's fucking everywhere. Shows, radio, books, magazines. They own everything.

>The red side gets its color from bathing in blood.
You know why veins are blue?

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stop assuming that people want to see white replacement in movies

It’s tedious. It’s really, really tedious.

sounds like you're the one with a problem. You can't watch anything without current events or think saving someone's life, a common plot in old literature, is political

Because a script that boils down to "our politics: GOOD, yours: BAD" is pretty boring and stupid if approached with all the subtlety as a brick to the face. Worse if the supported view is fucking insane.

Yeah, because the election is next year. They're already pushing it hard.

Get Out literally WAS script and casting. Every critic who was praising the film was talking endlessly about its politics. Yea Forums is not making anything political, the people affirming the art are.

Escapism won't solve this problem. You either engage, or you're the bitch of whoever possesses cultural power.

I really don't understand pions like you. I really don't want to. I get into nothing but arguments when I mention that I miss how entertainment was. Less political. Now just look at Sci-Fi. Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who. Every show is heavy on the left messaging. Make the Klingon Empire Great Again. I guess I was just to assume that wasn't a dig at Trump huh

Yeah that's all it is. "Current events". Have a good rest of your day Mr. Goldstein

Because he is the Antichrist. I'm not kidding.

Hollywoods obsession with pushing agenda today makes me want to watch anime instead. Do they really want to bite the hand that feeds?

you're not smart by bringing politics into everything. Get over yourself and read more books and see that stories follow a formula

I thought we were.

They don't care about people like you. They care about the mass majority of consumers of Netflix shows and whatever other streaming services. Those people like politics in their entertainment. They'll pay out their ass for whatever Hollywood shovels in front of them.

Fool I'm not the one fucking doing it. They are. You have at least 5 other anons in this thread alone laying that oh so obvious fact on you and you're still not getting it. Wow with this guy. I even said, "I miss when entertainment was LESS POLITICAL". Even sports isn't safe anymore. Hell Gillette fucking razors put out a very leftist political add targeting men.

Nothing's going to change, politics from every angle is an echo chamber. Nobody changes their minds any more. Nobody ingests new information because there is none and everyone sees people who disagree with them as the enemy.

Hence why someone should blow them up.
Tarrant was a massive faggot (and actually an agent.. but that's another story) for not using his opportunity well.

You're not even giving a valid point. "Books follow a formula" doesn't explain the recent trend of constantly inserting current political topics into tv shows/movies. There's a big difference between engaging thoughtfully with politics in literature and slapping together an obvious allegory about the current political climate.

>everyone sees people who disagree with them as the enemy.
Do you really think there is any leg room now when they literally won't even admit the existence of Assange's leaks? (who btw is being ejected from the embassy soon)

Any leg room to do what?

you're the one obsessing over leftists and bring pol memes into everything. It's not everyone else's problem, it's you

It does explain it because you try to make a basic plotline/trope into a "leftist agenda"

Why does the left talk endlessly about racism? If blacks aren't being genocided, do their problems actually matter?

OH FUCK A TUXEDO FROG YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

MRS OBAMA GET DOWN!

To even listen to them?
We tried telling them and they never listened once. They instead covered it up.
We've been listening to the media's drivel for a century and they won't even respect that we might actually know something they don't? Hardly. They're just fighting a propaganda war.

Hows Denial? Is it a nice place to live or just visit on occasion whenever a subject comes around you can't wiggle your way out of?

>WE
>THEY
Proving me right with your inane babbling.

>character is obsessed with Trump
>covers himself in Cheeto dust
>"uhh it's not political it's just your Pavlovian response"
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>pol
>not /pol/

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Everything you say is correct, but it is also important to note that Obama is a nigger and his wife is a tranny.

Oh this dude is too edgy

We being the public.
They being the media. My enemy is them.

you're the one asking for help. I'm not the one that thinks saving someone's life or cleaning up after yourself is politics

>WE
>THEY
Yes, that was my point and you are proving it for me.

The only bad casting is John Cho and that’s because he’s 20 years too old, not because he’s Asian.

Been saying that for years

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You have ten seconds to explain why major media networks like CNN and MSNBC felt very safe tearing into a group of white teenagers for smiling wrong at a brown adult, and why they clearly don't feel safe doing the same to a group of black teenagers based on 10 seconds of out of context footage.

>millionaires
>because of a book
Do people really believe this

Lots of people have.

Any person a part of this media regime must be gassed.

>I'm not the one that thinks saving someone's life or cleaning up after yourself is politics
What are you fucking on about?

The user you're responding to has no cultural power and no platform from which to affect change. How he views the media is irrelevant if they don't reciprocate his views.

>keeps watching it
>complains that EVERYTHING is like it

this is like Yea Forumseddit complaining about "moeshit" anime desu

Why am I obligated to explain any of that?

>WE
>THEY

YOUD BE SURPRISE, NOBODY READS BUT THEY SOMEHOW BUY A LOT OF BOOKS

read the thread

>Why am I obligated to explain any of that?
Because you're the one claiming that the user is othering the media with his 'we' and 'they' rhetoric. It's on you to explain how they aren't doing exactly that to him, because they have way, way, way more power to dictate culture than he does.

I hope you're being facetious you dope.

Neither do I. In fact, its common sense and just being a responsible human being. But that's not what I'm arguing. I brought to your attention undeniable facts how left wings organizations have a strong grip on our entertainment and they way we digest it. Your response is to throw platitudes that's not even related to what Im talking about. Hence wiggle your way out. Unless you think you were responding to a different user this entire time

You just got proven wrong. Never did I say "everything" and even if I did say that I clearly didn't mean every fucking show. Are you autistic by chance?

Nah, you said how do i get politics out. Get away from them entirely. Your vote doesnt matter and whining on the internet doesnt either.

>It's on you to explain how they aren't doing exactly that to him
It's on you to read before responding: I never said they weren't. I said everybody does it. This is why this shit is dangerous, you retards can't read anything without projecting your own assumptions onto it even when what you actually read, what was actually said is the exact opposite.

Oh shit no dude I wasn't that user.

Why would I be being facetious? In the west right now, white people are held liable every time racial relations break down ever, and they're breaking down more every day. Sustained ethnic inequalities have resulted in a lot of genocides.

Most people are fine with it. As already mentioned the only one that is a bad choice is John Cho and not because he is asian, but because he does not embody a Kung Fu hip guy and he is too old.

Otherwise this is an issue of bad casting not leftism.

You're still not understanding. It isn't about putting a political message into a show. It's about sacrificing a show in order to give a political message. As soon as you can explain why that's a good way to make a show I'll admit you're right. You still haven't answered that

OK, but the onus is on the media and not that user to stop doing it first, because they have a lot more power.

Fuck that video for turning this meme into normalfag shit

who are you and why are you replying to me?

So much this

>WE
>THEY
You are retarded. Why do you think it matters who does it first if everyone does it? I'm more concerned with who does it last because it breeds idiocy in people like you.

>YOU'RE USING USING DIFFERENT PRONOUNS TO DISCUSS DIFFERENT GROUPS IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT POWER DISPARITY
Is this what passes for a deep observation when you have an IQ of 90?

Because you're a dumbass. Go watch your moeshit you worthless faggot

Who are you quoting? Is it THEM? Fucking hell, you are irreparable.

wow, it's bad that means none of them should do it. Is that what you want? Who even gives a shit if like 2 out of 10 movies does it and why are you obsessing over it

yea that's how your argument sounds exactly

>no one does it
>ok I admit 2 out of 10 movies do it
You're a genius, you know that?

You need to lay off the apples

5hey released their tax returns before 2008 election. They were already on the low end of millionaires. It's not a secret.

They made 2 million dollars, most likely due to boosted book sales from the campaign in 2008 alone before they entered the white house.
nytimes.com/interactive/projects/documents/president-obamas-2008-income-tax-returns

>why are you responding to me?
>hurr your argument bad
You sound schizophrenic. Seek help immediately

that's not even what was said, what

I miss the Obamas

Man are you fucking stupid? Read the thread

that's literally you lmao

The people in charge of the left are freaking terrifying. The fact that they fearlessly call for the genocide of white people, and mock or call racist anyone who pushes back against it, and not only get away with it but somehow seems to maintain the moral high ground in the public eye, in majority white countries, means we are so fucked. Even the nazis couldn’t do this shit against minority jews. The leadership of the left is telling everyone, RIGHT now, their sinister plans in plain English and in plain sight. And the response to anyone calling it out is basically, “lol stop whining you are white you guys do all the work and pay all the taxes and do all the innovation in this country, so what if one of the main political parties is trying to wipe you, your family and your race off the face of the earth, black people have to put up with getting arrested for crimes they commit”. We are currently in the early stages of a hostil takeover and genocide, the people doing it are openly admitting their sinister intentions, no one is doing jack shit about it, and anyone opposing it is mocked, deplatformed, loses their job and social standing. They have already won, all that remains is for them to get around to killing us.

I'm sure the niggers getting enslaved in Libya don't

>Do you really think the cast choices for the new Cowboy Bebop are ok?
Explain what exactly is wrong with them.

In addition are their annual grosses before 2008

But don't let facts get in the way of baseless accusations.

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Please with this shit

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You okay?

I’m canceling Netflix for Disney+ because there is zero reason to keep it without Disney and Fox movies/shows. Fuck Netflix

Why do you care about them again?

>Why aren't you worshipping god emperor like me?! Fall in line!

no one is genociding anyone dude

This

OPRAH MADE OBAMA

PLUG A BOOK ON HER SHOW AND ITS INSTANT MONY

t. epic memelord

why do you care about the obamas discord tranny?

right, go read the ones being replied to lol

Spotted the libtard

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Which leaders of the left are calling for the genocide of white people?

>hurr why do you care about politicians
Gee retarded zoomer faggot I don't know.

ME ON THE LEFT LMAO IE B&RP

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>imagine bringing up ww2 crimes over tv and movies
Thank you, this is what I always say. Every year we have numerous movies based on the “holocaust”, Nazis, Hitler or w/e. When will Hollywood let it go and get new material?

go dilate tranny

I clearly meant to reply to you

Back to facebook with this shit nigger

t. seething discord tranny

rule 2

I'm not the user you're replying to, but do you think racism doesn't matter as long as there's no genocide involved? Were Jim Crow laws OK because they weren't genocide? Is apartheid OK because it's not genocide? Is every complaint about the treatment of black people in the west irrelevant because the complaint doesn't document actual genocide?

>Libtard
>SJW
>Discord tranny
>Any other common mindless insult that avoids actual thought in a reply

>But we're counter culture and independent thinkers despite sounding like any other progandized and program right wing sheep

Man I'm so offended by your original retort.

>numerous movies

lol you trannys are something else

Ohhhhh that sweet taste

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BUT REDPILLED BOOMERS ARE THE BEST

ITS LIKE WATCHING A TODDLER MEME

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No.
But I'm also not the one saying that leftists "call for the genocide of white people".

Dump fuck all I did was call you a libtard. In this instance, it has the added virtue of being true.

/pol/ inviting literal soccer moms over is some wild shit

Imagine being a 40yo woman browsing this board kek

what are you even going on about. Do you even know what genocide means?

Learn to think for yourself. Stop stealing insults from your 50 year old Boomer Fox news watching uncle. It's embarrassing.

I really, really, really like this image

OK, then we've established that there's a lot of shit in between 'fine' and 'genocide'. White people in America are not currently 'fine', and leftists are calling for a lot of evil stuff regarding them. People are in positions of cultural and institutional power who openly hate on them and get rewarded for doing so. That's kinda fucked up, and if some anons on the internet get a little hyperbolic in their response, I think it's pretty understandable because they don't have many resources to fall back on for forming an argument.

Yes Zoom-Zoom, everyone who doesn't enjoy your epic memes is a libtard.

user clearly didn't mean it literally you clown. There is a movement targeting at straight males of all colors though. Spearheaded by the LBGTQZYXBNfs whatever letter they want to add next.

40yo women > trannys

This 'deal' was the equivalent of politicians giving million dollar speeches after they're out of office. just a pay off for (((net neutrality))) which saved Netflix hundreds of millions

Open your ears and listen to what they are saying man, try to do it without your brainwashing. You have been brought up to believe that white people are invincible, all powerful and are the only ones who can be racist, so anything said against them is both justified and can’t hurt them. But imagine when a left leader is taking about white people, that they are talking about blacks or Mexicans. The shit they say would be instantly labeled, rightly, the worst racism uttered in a century. At best they want and openly call for a soft genocide, one by replacement and breeding out whoever is left so in a few centuries only quadroon white people are left. And at worst well, again listen to the left. They want white people stripped of all power in their own countries, and they want all racism gone from the earth while believing that only white people can be racist, and always are. How do you suppose they achieve that? You don’t even need to read between the lines that much mate, it’s mostly openly said.

>if some anons on the internet get a little hyperbolic in their response, I think it's pretty understandable
You just said it yourself believing that racism only matters when genocide is involved is idiotic. The hyperbolic user is doing exactly this, by equating everyday racist attitudes and mean tweets with literal genocide.

I can tell. You are really bad this. You can't even respond properly. Or are we making you nervous? Are you a femanon? You seem nervous. Tell you what. Timestamp with your tits out or GTFO

Which leaders of the left are saying all this?

so it's not genocide, thanks

Look at this try hard faggot.

>we
Kek.

For how many years have you been here, user? Be honest.

Not in the literal sense no. I thought I just said that?!

BINGO BANGO THIS IS KNOWN AS THE REVOLVING DOOR

GO CHECK WHERE SENATORS AND SHIT "WORK" AFTER LEAVING OFFICE
HAVING SCORED SWEET DEALS FOR THEIR FUTURE EMPLOYERS

>user clearly didn't mean it literally you clown.
Lol you might want to read this

>we

As in more than one person

Did you just get out public school are you still in one? That would explain alot

He's speaking hyperbolically because unlike the left, he doesn't have a healthy, established set of media and acadmeic institutions to fall back on for forming his complaint. I'm saying his idiocy is a result of his culture not giving him any resources that it eagerly gives to the left.

For how many years have you been here, user?

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because a literal genocide is the one that matters and just boy crying wolf for everything else

Yeah it was a gross exaggeration. What are you not understanding other than to word play?

Sarah Jeong is in a position of cultural power as an editor at the New York Times despite years of tweets saying stuff like 'white people should live underground like monsters' and 'I love the suffering of old white men' and 'white guys should be castrated'. Can you find anyone working anywhere in a mainstream media outlet who has said anything like this about black people?

If not, the user seems like he has a point, doesn't he?

>imagine paying netflix to watch left wing propaganda movies

Longer than you kid. Longer than you

You’re fucking blind.

How many years?

>NetFlix News
And you have every country ever.

Blacks haven't been genocided in America, so I guess they've had it fine for the past 100 years.

So when your lot calls me a sexist or racist. I won't take it to heart. See how that goes?

What did you say that made people call you sexist/racist?

Maybe you can apply Occam's razor here.

One criticism of Obama is that he spent too much time trying to be a celebrity which may be true to an extent though personally I don't think it was as bad as it was on the right.

I've even heard right wingers admit that even if they hate his politics they admit he has charisma even though they would turn around and try to make it something negative by portraying it as being "slick" and good with words deceptively. He was still filling stadiums during the campaign with folks who seemed to really love Obama and he knew how to work a crowd. He is a highly sought after guest or someone to hear speak still.

So, given this, maybe Netflix realizes this is an indication of Obama as a persona, regardless of politics and struck a deal with him to see if they can make content with their name attached to attract viewers.

You can at least admit even if politically you hate the guy he appeals to a lot of people in the way I described? Perhaps this is reason for the deal than some unprovable shadowy manuvering?

>the commie jews are the one in charge
lol

It's not just Netflix. Remember that time the host from the Apprentice got elected president?

Relevance or are you just wiggling out of a tough spot? Be a man, be honest. Or is that too tough for you

What are you going to do? Fight the big bad industry and force them to make things only you like?

yeah it had discord trannys like you literally crying in the streets lol

It's a simple question. Why do you keep dodging it?

You're not some sort of deranged mongrel larping as anything but an election tourist, are you user?

Literally vs Actually is the example you missed

Correct

Mate even if leftist are not currently calling for gas chambers, they are calling for the following- mass migration of brown people into every white country, for white people to race mix, and for white people to have less children. If they get all the want, run that through a simulation(with worldwide population numbers in mind) and what do you suppose happens to white poeple? Leftist policies result in less white people as a percent(and sometimes in total) in their own countries. These policies being introduced in say Africa would be considered horrible. And if said policies would result in white people either being wiped totally or reduced to an extremely small minority how is that not a genocide, or something very similar. The holocaust, though far more direct, is considered a genocide and there are still millions of Jews left.

? People called you sexist/racist because you made a point about literally vs actually?

t. /r/the_Donald

are you just incapable of separating the word genocide with everything or what

read old books. watch foreign shows (even anime). It's not that they are devoid of politics, but they are politics of a different era or region. I don't really feel propagandized encountering the politics in Brothers Karamazov, or when Shinzo Abe is trying to make Japs breed.

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That user talks like a soccer mom straight out of reddit lel

I bet her name is Karen

haha

Are you being forced to watch the political videos? No? Then why complain?

Your question is equivelent to asking how I feel about politics being on television. "How do you feel about the existence of news channel?" I mean if I don't care to watch the news I won't watch those channels. Netflix is a venue for television entertainment across multiple genres. If sci-fi, horror, dramas, romcoms, documentaries, action flicks and everything else is on netflix then why should political shit be barred?

No, I'm just applying your standard for white people to black people and showing how fucking retarded it is.

God I wish I could fuck a soccer mom

amazon.com/Emerging-Democratic-Majority-John-Judis/dp/0743254783
Consider that this book has been an explicit part of the Democrat playbook for years. At best it looks like a deluded fantasy, at worst it's ethnic replacement masked as electoral triumph.

>things are different when you change the sociopolitical circumstances

Wow user do you have a phd, this is amazing

>election tourist

Man with this twerp

Bro, I ate spring and summer fags like you up with my morning coffee. You shitpost like you are new. You respond like you are new. Now tits with timestamp of GTFO

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>Are you being forced to watch the political videos? No? Then why complain?
Because I am forced to live in the culture they saturate.

Then it shouldn't be hard for you to say for how many years you've been here. Well, user? Let's hear it.

YOU SEE ITS OK TO SHIT ON THE WHITE MALE PATRIARCHY BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER

RACISM = POWER + PRIVILEGE
SEXISM = PENIS + PRIVILEGE

ERGO YOU CANT BE RACIST AGAINST WHITES OR SEXIST AGAINST MALES QED

REST IN PENIS FOUNDING FATHERS

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I'm not changing anything except skin color, you retard. You're the one saying whites are good just as long as they aren't being systemically murdered. You threw in 'sociopolitics' as a get out of jail free card because you're a dumb nigger who can't argue a point.

Soooo much this

Do you have any idea how much you sound like a SJW right now
>herf derf I can't bear coexisting alongside culture that I find problematic

Come on man. You could shitpost better than this. B8 me nigger. Make me so emotional I word vomit the answer

You've been throwing around 'nigger' and 'LBGTGQWKJ' because you're an upset little Gen Z faggot expecting to be taken seriously. Sorry, it's not going to happen.

I life in the deep South and a leftist. Even if I don't agree with the politics of most people I interact with I've found it possible to survive.

Stop whining like a fucking baby fag.

>Do you have any idea how much you sound like a SJW right now
So what? SJWs are in positions of power and currently writing the rules of my society precisely because people like you think you're cool for completely withdrawing from political conversation.

>
>Do you have any idea how much you sound like a SJW right now
>>herf derf I can't bear coexisting alongside culture that I find problematic

Well that's what an SJW would cry about while holding another protest

Simply answer the question, user. It's not that hard.

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Hundred years hahahahaha

Politics ebb and flow. In the 80s we had a bout of rightism. Then 90s a swing to the left. Then 2000s swing back right then left and now we're back to right politics being mainstream.

Stop spazzing.

>So what?
Well at least you're honest about being triggered.

>SJWs are in position of power
What country are you from? Who's in your SJW government exactly?

you're already wrong on the sjws being in power bit so there's no need to continue

>heh, maybe I have Hollywood, tech companies, universities, and billion dollar media platforms on my side, but I live in the south and I'm alright!
Yeah, no shit.

its all a bunch of hot bullshit thats never going to happen. this is just next level CoD lobby talking
>whats your address ill come fight you bro

Who do you have on your side?

Oh right, the government.

Yes, it’s what I’ll do.

There have been qualitative differences though. In the past, conservatives like Reagan were surprisingly moderate in positions and were generally much more open to a compromise-based, at least nominally cordial and polite style of governing. Now gadflies like Ben Shapiro are considered moderate.

>Stressful day at work
>Want to watch something lighthearted when I get home
>Open Netflix
>Obama documentary on racism in America autoplays

The """left""" in power consists largely of toothless, incoherent bourgeois buffoons.

You have the government and the most watched television station. You've had the government since 2010 honestly outside of the presidency and you may have the supreme Court for a life time.

yes user everybody knows those social media companies are the real power behind the throne

Wow you are fucking dense

The most watch television news station I mean.

No, I'm simply not deflecting virtually every post with "it's not literally genocide" despite those posts having nothing to do with that argument.

Imagine having your guy sitting in the White House and still doing mental gymnastics to convince yourself you're the brave underdog.

>Who do you have on your side?
God

TBF Fox News is the only news outlet in the country that didn't spend the last two years screaming MUH RUSSIA. So they deserve the ratings.

>When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of heaven! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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Yeah, you are dense. That type of jab just flew right past you.

The government isn't right wing at all. NPR is a product of the government. Universities receive state funding, and thus are a product of the government. The government is just a mechanism for enforcing state authority, and it reflects the people in it at any given time. The only thing keeping the government from looking like a college faculty department is the very rigid rules detailing how people with power are selected, otherwise they'd be indistinguishable.

Yeah, if they're so toothless, then you wouldn't risk having your livelihood destroyed for saying shit they didn't like while they protect people who say the Covington kids should have been killed with no consequences.

>MUH RUSSIA
You haven't been paying a lot of attention to the european theatre in the past decade, have you user?

this is some facebook boomer faggotry

You can place the blame squarely on the rise of talk radio in the early 90s and Newt Gingrich style of politics in the 90s. A no compromise my politics must win or it must all burn down started then.

This was all during the years of Clinton who was all but a neocon outside of a few issues. If these individuals couldn't compromise or be placated by the other side through clinton of all people, then compromise is never possible.

Trump is temporary. The authority wielded by universities in gatekeeping to positions of power is not.

>The government isn't right wing at all.

Explain how the Trump administration's platform is leftist, and be specific.

They were the highest rated before then. Since the early 2000s.

Deans of students are temporary too.

trump's administration doesnt encompass the majority of the government

The government is more than just the executive branch sweet prince.

This has to be up there with one of the stupidest things I've seen on this board.

That has nothing to do with netflix specifically you fucking spaz.

You've had both legislative bodies for most of the years over the past 20 or 30 years. You've also had the supreme Court for the most part on most issues with a few right leaning moderates breaking away ocassionally on some cases. You may end up getting the supreme Court to be more right wing once RBG croaks.

You also have most portions of country through most state legislatures and governorships.

Trump is not 'the government'. Trump, like any president, is temporal. Institutions that permanently push the culture in a left direction are very different from an administration that affects no meaningful cultural changes whatsoever.

I would trade Trump for having universities full of high IQ right wing people in a second. I suspect the left would never agree to that, even if they could.

The White House is powerless and negligible compared to colleges? Is this your argument?

You must have gone to school with Ocasio-Cortez.

OBAMA IS A FANTASTIC CON MAN, JUST LIKE DRUMPF

THEY FILL STADIA TO SIMILAR CAPACITIES, AS CELEBRITIES TEND TO DO

THE REVOLVING DOOR BETWEEN INDUSTRY AND GOVERNMENT IS WELL DOCUMENTED, JUST HOW IT WORKS ACROSS THE BOARD

FOR THIS INSTANCE DEM BENEFICIARY INDUSTRY COULD GIVE MULTIMILLIONAIRE OBAMA MORE MONEY ANY WAY HE WANTS, BUT IN MASS MEDIA IS IDEAL SINCE IT ALSO HAS AN OUTSIZED CULTURAL IMPACT AND HAPPENS TO BE AN INDUSTRY CORNERED BY THE DEMOCRAPS :^)

Wow do you believe you were just indoctrinated with in your civics class? So when Red states are fundamentally against abortion or Gay marriage. Its the government enforcing state authority? Really? You don't say

>you're completely powerless to click the back button and go back to surfing through videos
>because this is some retarded right-wing fantasy

Is the Trump administration a vital part of the government or not? This is what user wrote
>The government isn't right wing at all.
And that's what I argued against.

smart

Do I have to explain to you how temporal leaders create permanent changes?

>then you wouldn't risk having your livelihood destroyed for saying shit they didn't like
Literal white supremacists have tenure at universities. The cases of people having their livelihoods destroyed are usually working class people who get fired for being seen on TV at a Nazi rally.
>they protect people who say the Covington kids should have been killed with no consequences
Maybe because a lot of the people who said that (like Kathy Griffin) already had disgraced themselves in the public eye?

Every studio was trying to sign the Obamas. Netflix probably just offered the most money.

And presidents have been given book deals for centuries. Books are entertainment. So nothing has changed.

fuck obama
fuck libtards
fuck n****rs

user, user, don't you get it? Having a mean tweet sent your way is literally having your livelihood destroyed :(

There are entire disciplines of academia that exist solely to affirm and agitate for progressive cultural change. There are exactly zero disciplines of academia that exist to do the same for reactionary cultural change. The reason why you can get fired from Google for not being a feminist is precisely because we've had several decades of places like Harvard giving degrees to Women's Studies majors and they've found their way into corporate HR departments.

If it's the first thing you see and it auto-plays every time. But it's just a right wing am I right? That doesn't happen at all. Nah man

Is this the part where you start arguing that only core STEMs are real science, and sociology, psychology etc. is for faggots?

>There are entire disciplines of academia that exist solely to affirm and agitate for progressive cultural change
They're not exactly large compared to something like departments of biology, English, psychology, or other common majors.

Man the left academia. Public school, colleges and universities. Where have you fucking been

Amazing how a handful of college students are more powerful than the literal President of the United States

*controls acedmia

You are stupid

I've clicked on some Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro videos on Google and now my recommendations on YouTube are filled with all this "redpill" " triggered leftists", "SJW WRECKED!" Videos now. I have to constantly click "not interested" to remove the bullshit. So is YouTube trying to program me with right wing propaganda or is it simply a mindless algorithm recommending me videos based on pass video views?

When they are in positions of influence. And all politicians have to kiss their ass comes election time then yes. It is scary.

>The reason why you can get fired from Google for not being a feminist

Chuck Wendig got fired from Disney/Lucasfilm because he was a hardcore feminist.

It's almost as if drawing negative PR to your company by being overly political is a valid reason for getting fired.

But no. It must be the feminists.

You just cited a case where being a disgraced right winger results in institutional consequence, and a case where being a disgraced left winger doesn't.

How many mean tweets did Brendan Eich get? How many mean tweets did James Damore get? How many mean tweets did Roseanne Barr get? Or wait, did something else happen to them that I feel like you're about to justify as you suddenly want to affirm the will of the powerful? Hmmm...

You are an idiot if you believe that.

And as we all know the President is in no position of influence

I’m rich in faith son.

See

Netflix remember? The Obamas and Netflix not Youtube. Man you are embarrassing yourself

Kathleen Kennedy is a hardcore feminist, so Disney must not be targeting them very efficiently if they're giving them creative and financial control of entire franchises.

delete /pol/

>It's almost as if drawing negative PR to your company by being overly political is a valid reason for getting fired.

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

So the weather is nice in denial then?

CHUCK WENDIG IS A LIABILITY TO ANY CORPORATION IN GENERAL

HE PUTS THE EFFORT IN, BUT THE VIRTUE SIGNALING NEEDS TO BE MORE TASTEFUL WHILE IN EMPLOY OF THE MOUSE

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Based

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More people know a hell of a lot more about celebrities and athletes then they do about elected officials. Care to deny that as well?

>What does Yea Forums think of the ever growing attempt of Netflix of bringing politics into their productions?
>why cant we keep politics out of our entertainment?
They're a business. Whatever makes money is what they should go for.

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OK, so suddenly it seems like social media and corporate media companies are really important because they can pressure your employer into firing you, right? So if they were predominantly left wing as well, that would give the left a lot of power to decide who does and who doesn't get to be outspoken about their politics, huh?

And how many policies do celebrities and athletes enact? Remind me.

Michelle looks manlier than Obama.

Especially twitter

>customers are important for companies which cater to customers
user....... you're onto something here

>People are lured in to mindless consumerism and disengagement from the political decision making process by expending emotional energy into what the Kardashians are doing
>As a result true power brokers can operate more freely and make laws and rules that can have drastic effects on their livelihoods.

In this context, politicians and corporations are infinitely more powerful even though they are not the most well known and followed which ironically helps them consolidate their power further.

>You just cited a case where being a disgraced right winger results in institutional consequence,
I didn't

This is solid advice. And by solid I mean really fucking stupid

If you can't see the general progressive drift of pop culture after the turn of the millennium I dunno what to say. Enjoy that center-leftist bubble you're in.

As a marxist, I'm pretty ambivalent about it all - it's pretty obviously a bunch of corporate overlords using their race wokeness and LGBT acceptance as a shield for their heinous fucking policies elsewhere.

That's part of the reason why the modern progressive left is so puritanical and fastidious - they're compensating for their lack of commitment to actual equality. They viciously attack the status quo when really their ideal is basically just "the status quo except with more brown transwomen in positions of prestige".

>celebrities are more important than politicians

Jesus fucking Christ is the zoomest thing I've read all year

End yourself you genetic waste

Netflix will collapse when their user base growth stalls and their funders stop funding as they don’t make a profit off of their original programming.

>general progressive drift of pop culture
You know society consists of a lot more than pop culture, correct?

>WEN THE POLITICIANS ARE CELEBRITIES

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Shees kid, you got to elected first don't ya? Gotta hang with the cool kids to seem more personal dont ya? The photo ops, the rallies, the late night talk shows. Beauty pageant ephemera wins elections. Donors mostly control what the elected officials debate, then vote, then sign, then enact.

I know that wasn't covered in your AP civics class yesterday but this is how its done. No politician actually wants to do it. But it's needed

Only in Burgerland

The point is that the 'customers' is a really nebulous term and institutions with billions of dollars and a big ol' bunch of power are given license to claim they speak for 'customers', and thus they get to manufacture a consensus of what does and does not constitute punishable speech or activism.

You already know this, you just like it because it benefits you.

>ANY LAND MATTERING BUT BURGERLAND

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Obama was just a half black Dubya that didn't pretend to be dumb and could use a teleprompter. Change my mind.

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Netflix will not collapse.

If anything they will just maybe scale back the original programming. At this point Netflix is almost in every home and the constant stream of income from subscriptions will keep them afloat. Even if their original programming bombs the money can be recouped and the company will survive by changing their strategy slightly.

Netflix bankrupting anytime soon is a pipedream of rightist who view netflix as the reason why everyone is not 1488 yet.

Answer the question. How many policies have celebrities and athletes enacted recently, I'm curious.

> (You)
>>celebrities are more important than politicians
>
>Jesus fucking Christ is the zoomest thing I've read all year
>
>End yourself you genetic waste

>zoomest

What?

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Jussie Smollett's fake hate crime literally just got an anti-lynching bill passed, retard.

Zoom
Zoomer
Zoomest

Yes, but as far as the one we actually live in, it's pretty pop culture-centric. I prefer poetry and opera myself but for 95% of the folks at home, Marvel movies and Netflix are the only culture that matters and that's what we're discussing.

>it's pretty obviously a bunch of corporate overlords using their race wokeness and LGBT acceptance as a shield for their heinous fucking policies elsewhere

wow. it's almost as if politicians have been doing that via popular culture since the dawn of time

I see you miss the "Donors" part. Stay in school

Jussie Smollett wrote and passed that bill? I didn't realize he was an elected judge in addition to being an actor.

he does what he wants and says what he wants, with no apologises

Culture is pop-culture-centric, sure.

But the point I was trying to make is that pop culture may shift towards progressivism but the rest of society doesn't. There's nothing progressive about isolationist/nationalist parties surging all across Europe.

OBAMA WAS EDITOR OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW, A BIT OF THAT IS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BUT NOT MUCH

HIS BIG DONORS ARE UNIVERSITIES TECH BANKS AND LAW FIRMS

Professor Zoom?

It's almost as if culture matters more than the empty suits in office who enact legislation along the guidelines people with cultural power advocate for or something, which is what the user you thought you were cleverly rebutting was saying in the first place.

Let me get this straight. Celebrities and athletes rule the world and politicians are merely their puppets?

No, user was citing an instance of a specific case having an effect on lawmaking. Which is nothing new.

Yeah, we've established that an obviously fake 'hate crime' shoddily concocted by a black guy who is happy to scapegoat whites has an immediate impact on the state legislature, and faces next to no legal or career consequences when everyone figures out it was concocted. That's what having cultural power on your side looks like.

Seems like it's kind of a big deal, no?

Not so black and white but I see how you would need ot broken down into that. Let me help just a little further. Ever heard the expression "Money equals Speech"? Well if a bunch of celebrities or athletes have over lets 10 million followers or more. Then they host rallies, or donor 5,000 dollars minimum a plate diners. Write songs and raps. Then personally donates a huge amount of money for access. Then that kid os influence. The Presidency now that we live in a such a celebrity-obsessed culture is a business agent within the executive branch for ALL the power brokers. Big money, Donors, Celebrities etc..

Again, specific cases have always had some influence on the everyday lawmaking process. Smollett being a celebrity has nothing to do with it.

Here's an example of a non-celebrity having an effect on lawmaking
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Not to mention that you shifted from "celebrities are literally the ones in control and more powerful than the President" to "This one celebrity had an indirect influence on a law being pushed through the senate (but he didn't actually write the law himself".

So who controls Trump?

I never claimed celebrities directly write law, my dude. Some other user might have, but I don't have to demonstrate that they write anything if they can manufacture the results they want immediately on flimsey as fuck evidence.

Culture is in no way disconnected from 'specific cases'. It's a big ol' web of 'em. And right now, it's really obvious who has the capital to influence these bodies long term.

>it's really obvious who has the capital to influence these bodies long term.
Yeah, anyone whose case draws bigger attention. This can be celebrities, normal people, serial killers, etc.

Super Mega Churches, Defense Contractors, The Coal Miners Association, International Banks. Health Care Industry, Big Oil Firms. Trump isn't exempt from it. He even stated he bought both Republican and Democrat Presidents when he was CEO of Trump Hotels. He paid for influence and access.

>Your vote doesnt matter and whining on the internet doesnt either.

This user gets it.

>Yeah, anyone whose case draws bigger attention. This can be celebrities, normal people, serial killers, etc.
And this attention is controlled by billion dollar media companies, who see to it that cases like Smollett's get the kind of attention that results in legislation, and that white kids who smile wrong at Native American for a few seconds are given the kind of attention that results in death threats.

I guess you may have a point, though I would differentiate between control and influence.

>And this attention is controlled by billion dollar media companies
People aren't braindead sheeple user, they are still very much in control of what they consume. The companies are simply giving them what they want, they don't dictate, they react.

I cancelled it bc their programming is shit and I don't want to see this propaganda

Influence is control. It's just a matter of when they get around to doing it. If its not done before the allotted time. Then they will take their money elsewhere. You need a war chest to run for re-election. Do you know why house members could easily buy? Every day they have to raise money. They have one year to come thru on the promises then the following year running for re-election.

Captain Marvel is a prime example of that.

Exactly, there will always be a huge audience for capeshit even though the films get worse every year. Because normalfags love it.

Marvel can release a three hour film of the Hulk shitting into Black Widow's mouth and it will make +1 Billion.

>one leftist arguing for a magical 'will of the people' totally divorced from financial influence in American politics
>one leftist arguing for the magical 'will of the people' being totally desecrated because of financial influence in American politics
Really does get that noggin' joggin'...

It's almost as if politics isn't binary you tribalist retard.

It's almost as if your arguments aren't good faith and you tactically apply them or something.

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Go back to Facebook, Zoomer-kun.

Why are you mad that two people have different views on things? Are you autistic?

>Yeah, anyone whose case draws bigger attention. This can be celebrities, normal people, serial killers, etc.
IE CELEBRITIES ALL, AS YOU CORRECTLY DEFINED

IF YOU WANT TO GO FULL LEFTOID ACTIVIST AND SAY LYING TO THE COPS IS OK FOR A GOOD CAUSE
JUSSTIE'S CHARADE STILL HARMED ACTUAL HATE CRIME VICTIMS MORE THAN IT WOULD HAVE HELPED
JUST BAD CHOICES FROM ANY ANGLE

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Or you still think your measly vote matter. When they say "The American People". They don't mean you.

Tits or GTFO. Oh wait you're of age right?

>two opinions? how can this be?

I guess it's true what they say. Republicans want to fall in line.

Only difference is only one of them is based in reality. Guess which one isn't?

Hint its yours

Yes user every opinion you don't like isn't real

I didn't say everybody. Just yours

I can smell your cunt, soccer mom.

Which, in this case, is every opinion but yours. My point stands.