Talks for 20 min

He learned the art of pilpul from his jewish masters.

>muh'ake up

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he's fake "academic"
he just gives credibility to appeals to emotion and ignorance. He's a doctor shill for the Kochs that exists to encourage retards to think like retards

>find out someone isn't a brain dead neonazi
>start slandering them and associating them with conspiracy theories, as if that's the only way someone wouldn't be a neonazi
what's that the art of

>We're about to save Western Civilization
>You in, bucko?

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he told me to clean my room and have sex

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Bam Margera needs this guy

How is taking responsibility for yourself "thinking like a retard"? Don't let your political ideology form all of your opinions on every single thing.

this, he's afraid of taking a stand on certain positions.

Thinking you can be a completely isolated individual in every aspect is retarded.

>He basically says that you must take responsibility over your own life
Congratulations, you compressed Peterson in a few words
He talks a lot

He doesn't even say that.

It's a complicated issue to address since people generally have no influence over how their own life turns out. Convincing disenfranchised people to take responsibility when they rightfully should not have to is difficult.

He is honest. People thinking that he can give them all the answers are delusional. He is making you think for yourself that is the best thing to do. Make you learn to think for yourself. Not waiting that some guru tells you how to fix your problems.

He is a glorified self help guru, 80s style
Also he is a psychologist aka pseudoscientist and there is a really high chance he is mentally ill

taking responsibility for yourself is just as shortsided as the people who say "pick yourself up from your bootstraps" you really think small don't you

>t. brainlet

not sure why you think sam harris, a liberal, is on your side

Sam Harris is a rationalist, not a liberal. He believes whatever is correct and supported by facts, he has no alignment with a political party.

Okay, then what the fuck do you do then?

>and there is a really high chance he is mentally ill
I think he has told many times how he has had depression and other mental problems in his life.

It's difficult to convince disenfranchised people, it's true, but I think actions are more important than words, these people want something more solid than words and metaphors
Also I think if he made his metaphors a little more concise and grounded he would convince more people
But what do I know, I'm not a psychologist, I just bought his book and I haven't finished it yet

Then what is your proposition? That people go to a fucking guy giving a speech, but a giving book and that will solve all their problems? At the end of the day you are alone with yourself, no one more.

It's common knowledge that all psychologists/psychiatrist have deep mental issues
Surely listening to all the deep hidden thoughts of people and not being to share them with someone due to confidentiality takes it's toll
And unlike priest in confessions psychologists don't believe in a higher being so it's causing mental trauma

>Be a psychologist
>Be mentally ill
Every single fucking time

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Missing Sam Hyde, Milo, Sargon, Metokur, LS and Molymeme

>Jordan Peterson, what is your favorite color?

Well that depends on what you mean by favorite. And it also depends on what you mean by color. This is a very complex question... One must acknowledge the underlying verisimilitude that is irrevocably nested within a multi-layered metaphysical substrate which many people fundamentally conflate with their ideological presuppositions with no uncertain irregularity, causing the inadvertent dismissal of Jung's archetypal extrapolation of the quintessential axiomatic juxtaposition required to achieve Raskolnikov's magnitude of Neo-Marxist existential nihilism..

He identifies himself as a liberal on his podcast all the time. He's also Jewish. The only way his beliefs are sort of similar to those of the alt-right are his stance on Islam and gun control.

>Harris describes himself as a liberal, and states that he supports raising taxes on the very wealthy, the decriminalizing of drugs and legalizing of same-sex marriage. He was critical of the Bush administration's war in Iraq, fiscal policy, and treatment of science. However, he believes liberals dangerously downplay the threat posed by Islamic fundamentalism.

isn't psychology the easiest major
not including other humanities shit

you could do all the right things for yourself and what you believe is right for others and still end up in the gutter. basically there are way too many outside factors to just say "hey, if you do this then you can do that"

>but I think actions are more important than words, these people want something more solid than words and metaphors
Like what?

If any of you in this thread are in their 20s without kids you really need to take a back seat with the political sides

nothing gets fixed in a day and you should really be voting for your kids

tree shade ect

most of you are just going to die childless

also this
>During the 2016 United States presidential election, Harris supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Party presidential primaries against Bernie Sanders, and despite calling her "a terribly flawed candidate for the presidency," he favored her in the general election and came out strongly in opposition to Donald Trump's candidacy.

>panders to teenagers with Aspergers
>makes millions

>ITS FIND
really user

Depressed people are obsessed with their depression
They want to talk about their mental issues all the time, it's what defines them
So they become phychologists or some other sociomumbojumbo profession
If i had one advice for mentally ill faggots, it's to stay away from shrinkers

Its also a lesson people forgot or strongly oppose these days.

Its kinda required to make proper arguments WHY you need to take care of your own shit.
Same with telling the truth which is the polar opposite of the zeitgeist.

kek

psychologists become glorified drug pushers

Success is not something certain... Ok tell something that is not obvious now.

shutup boomer. you can spot boomers from a mile away with their bought degrees when college was 10 grand

Like, get off the computer and go out and run and exercise
Stop going to uni and get a job where you fix something with your hands
Go out for a drink, learn to be self dependent
I don't know, reading self help books and watching youtube vids in your room is part of the problem
I don't know what is the solution really

>most of you are just going to die childless
I have already accepted that long time ago. And it is not the fault of politicians or society, the fault it's mostly mine and also my parents.

he's an agent of mossad to stop men from walking up to their oppression

>take responsibility and get a job, that will be 79 dollarydoos
Okay Peterson, you know a way to get HR to give me a fucking phone call?
>... I said that will be 79 dollarydoos

no, you just have high standards in women

But he talks about all those things too. His book gives 12 basic rules to improve your life. Like cleaning your room, having an objective in life, planning your life, etc.

Personally, I'm a 40 year old virgin and I stopped voting since 35 because I don't believe childless people should have voting right
In fact I don't believe neither men or women should vote
One vote per family unit, single men can vote only while they are fit for military service and only for a subset of issues

which is fine, everyone should have the same standards as the luckiest people in society. it's not like they earned anything.

He likens humans to lobsters with a straight face. What a fucking clown.

Hahaha if only you knew how bad things really are...

>its all dependent on someone else

Well you still dont get it

>Okay Peterson, you know a way to get HR to give me a fucking phone call?
And this is why I stopped going to my psychologist
When I find a job I may start going again

>tells you to clean your room

compelling stuff

Not really, he compares brain chemistry.

>old boomers mad at the young kids with their hip hop

hahahaha a

Well did you?

Hides the fact that he says nothing by using big words.

White people: he's sooooooo smart!

Have you read his book?

no i have a maid

does he tell you to clean your room in it?

I don't fuck much anymore either, but there's no need to be a virgin with the advent of Tinder. There are literally women on there asking to break in the uninitiated. Go fuck an older woman on an app like a real man

Hip-Hop is around like since the 70s dude.

The draft isn't really a thing anymore, so I'd change it from being fit for military service, to having a vote if you are currently or have been in military service. Other than that small change, I completely agree with you. It just makes sense. Parents of children will, for the most part, have a vested interest in their childrens future, and want what's best for their child, and vote on the appropriating policies. Those policies will ensure that not only is the family unit kept intact and strong, but also ensures to create capable individuals, which creates a capable society.

Although I don't vote because Immigration is my #1 issue and all Canadian politicians want to see it increased. Of course they won't say that it's because our social welfare system literally can't survive unless we constantly bring in a huge influx of people to try to keep things afloat.

Do you think being dependent on someone else for something as mundane and personal as cleaning your living space is healthy for an adult male?

that sums up every non-white intellectual

it's a confidence issue. that's it. clean your room, are little baby step to gain a sense of accomplishment. your limits are created by your own insecurities

>you need mindless sex in your life or you are no man.

Tell me more

Fun Fact: Whites have just as many gullible retards who just want to be told what they want to hear as any other demographic

/pol/lacks who go on about racial IQ differences overlook the fact that the far more logical course of action to improve the species is to sterilize the lower 3rd of the IQ scale regardless of race.

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wtf r u talking about u rambling autist

He does have a tendency to not say much, ill agree to that. Im listening to his biblical series lectures and he does like to ramble on a lot. That being said I like listening to him regardless

Petetstein

lol

>the far more logical course of action to improve the species is to sterilize the lower 3rd of the IQ scale
Considering IQ is just a measure of how good you are at specific tasks on a specific environment, and that it's been proved that you can very easily get higher IQ just by preparing for the tests two or three months earlier, I really don't see how this could in any way help the species.

I actually think this mindset isn't good for people. I used to have this mindset too, and while I think casual sex is definitely degenerate, we're in a society where maybe what, 1% of females have a more traditional mindset and has rejected this poisonous culture? Now you expect that 1% to go out with a virgin who has no experience with being in any sort of relationship with a woman? It's already unlikely enough you will find a trad girl, much less one that will be with and stay with someone who's a virgin at 40. Just the facts man, I fucking hate it too, but the other option is dying alone and bitter.

Why are you angry?

this. also wtf horsecum?

>/pol/lacks who go on about racial IQ differences overlook the fact that the far more logical course of action to improve the species is to sterilize the lower 3rd of the IQ scale regardless of race.

You're just sterilizing most people who aren't white anyway, whats the difference.

>he completely missed the point of cleaning your room

it's not as simple as IQ. Chinese have higher average IQ than whites, but have done fuckall. meanwhile white people invented science, philosophy, arts and literally everything else.

>gives credibility to appeals to emotion

The fuck? His lectures are about the opposite of that. You never even read or listened to anything by him did you?

There should be state obligated euthanasia for all 40 years old virgins.

That post is a fake story made by some angry libtard moron.

Jordan Peterson fanbabies need to watch this.
youtube.com/watch?v=zR5oJW0MoYw

Is there a word for the anti-illuminati?

The actual logical thing to help society would be to purge all neets.

White women *love* horses.

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I've listen to some of his lectures and I have to say, he's never quite clear with with answers. He'll start off in one direction making me go, "Okay, I'm listening..." then he'll derail his train of thought by quoting a dead person that he admires. And I'm like, "Wha? What's that quote have to do with anything?"

u mad cus sad

>Considering IQ is just a measure of how good you are at specific tasks on a specific environment

So unbelievably wrong. IQ is the SINGLE greatest predictor of success in education, success in your job, success with money, and even being socially successful. Nothing else comes close, and it's the most well understood metric in all of psychology (And I know that's not saying much, but it's still notable). A man with a high IQ can end up working at Mcdonalds or be a CEO. A man with a low IQ can end up working at Mcdonalds, but will never be a CEO. The army won't even accept people under an IQ of 83 because at that point they're too stupid to even follow basic instructions. Keep in mind the black average IQ in the US is 85.

Chinese have lived under Comunnism for 70 years. It's normal they are soulless.

>muh collectivism

Fuck off /POL/tard

>MUH LIBTARDS

honestly /pol/ is getting pretty cringy

just let it drop once in a while lads

>IQ is the SINGLE greatest predictor of success in education, success in your job, success with money, and even being socially successful
Proof beside Jordan Peterson claiming he did a study on it?

youtube.com/watch?v=oCVck7bIbBI&feature=youtu.be
obviously fucking staged
further proves that peterson is a fucking disinfo agent. but white bois need a fucking daddy in their lives...pathetic

Well am i wrong?

because it's not actually about IQ for them they just use like to use IQ to justify their race realism memes. i doubt 99% of them have even taken an actual IQ test for themselves.

Are you serious? And why do you drag apeterson into this? You think he is some "race realist" or something like that?

you're already a part of multiple collectives, your country, your neighborhood, your religion, your family. but if you're a part of your ethnical collective - a step too far.

he rambles that's how he wins to basically go on and on saying something that seems complicated but actually doesn't have concrete points

pol has literally always been cringy and hysterical, but that doesn't mean they aren't frequently right

I don't blame them honestly. If I didn't change my mindset I'd be well on my way to being that person. Even accepting what I wrote above was a very painful pill to swallow because it felt like I was abandoning my moral conduct and hate for the current culture, and instead joining it, thus contributing to the problem. And in a way I am. But as I said, what else is there to do? I'm only one man, I can't change an entire 50 years of subversion. I can only decide what to do with myself. And it was either die alone, or date girls and find one whos either not too far gone to where I can instill my values on her, or one that already has those values. Better than blowing a load into a sock every night.

It takes a society to properly raise women to not be retarded. We don't have that society now. I'm sure we will one day, but that day isn't today. Atleast you can keep your genes going on so that your children can experience that societal shift (hopefully).

>libtard talking about daddy issues

Now thats irony, tell me again how much you hate old white men please.

/pol/ has nothing to do with this thread or else it would have been 404'd

>Peterson openly states that his goal is to deradicalize young White men to prevent them from taking action
>conspiracy theory
Hmm

Diogenes came close, I'm following in his footsteps, last step is to go to the woods and not look back.

Are you gonna make me or what?

ya

I don't think it's staged; I just think that there are a lot of dumbass people who don't actually understand philosophy/religion/etc and when Peterson gives them the special ed version they treat him like a messiah.

Especially considering they're at a basically fundamentalist university here.

Xir is clearly intellectually inferior.

Sister got her masters in psychology. IQ is so intermixed with psychology that it's questionable if the field would even exist as it does now if the idea of IQ was thrown out.

People who get high SAT scores also get high IQ scores. Why do you think that is?

/pol/s gay lol

>whats the answer to x?
>what IS the answer to x?
whoa. deep.

bleurgh. time to cleanse my eyes with some kino

>low IQ major brainlet is dependent on IQ to exist
its poetry

itt: people with filthy rooms

the problem with peterson is he got too big. his celeb has tainted him like everything. remember notch in minecraft. remember gabe in valve.

clean your room user.

lol notch is a billionaire living in a huge hollywood hills house wtf r u talking about

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>And why do you drag apeterson into this?
Because I've only heard the 'greatest predictor of success' line come from him. I'm certain it's important for a lot of things, but I want some source

I'm not saying it's unimportant, but I'm not convinced that it's by and large the only thing that matters either.

You might be gay but you definitely need to cleanse your room

>he fell for the jbp meme

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So you think the person who faked this wasnt left-leaning?

Its statistically proven, im sure you can google that.

its obv a joke post retard. are u that autistic?

>Better than blowing a load into a sock every night.
Dude, what are doing? You don't know bottles?

Also th rest of what you said is basically WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY...

Don't believe that what you see on /pol/ is the real world. The majority of women are still normal people. Not traditional Christians that don't have sex until marriage but not those crazy ones you see on /pol/.

If you are looking for a traditional Christian woman that don't have sex until marriage and only thinks in getting marriage, having children and being a good mother then you should find a time machine and go back to hundreds of years ago.

He's a liberal who hates liberals. He hates that his "team" is run by nonbinarygendered colorfluid college kids now.

his product suffered because of his success you retard. this shows how selfish you are

hahaha that game sucked who cares

I immediately found a dated study that shows they're far from perfectly correlated

So where are the stats?

I lean towards the left but still have the utmost respect for this man. Except for the dumb lobster analogy...

clean your room. solves all problems

>I'm not saying it's unimportant, but I'm not convinced that it's by and large the only thing that matters either.

It's not. I'd take a compassionate retard who spends his time walking the elderly than a smart guy who's ruthless and only gives a shit about himself no matter who he hurts. It's just a measurement of how well you do with pattern recognition, which as humans, is extremely important for us.

Like I said before, you're not going to have someone who does well in school score low on an IQ test, and you're not going to have someone who scores high on an IQ test do poorly in school (except in the cases where the class moves too slow for them or they have ADHD). It's not that he does well on an IQ test and thus he's smart, it's that he's smart and thus does well on an IQ test, and pretty much any other test.

clean your room

Also on the left. He has some interesting lectures but when he comments on leftist ideology, it comes across as uninformed.

Jungian psychology is astrology for men

>20 minutes explain to you what your dad has been saying your whole life
hmm

>im too dumb to understand
>so thst means he said nothing
Brainlet

>I immediately found a dated study that shows they're far from perfectly correlated

They're not perfectly correlated, I don't think anyone said that. It is however, the best measurement we have to predict success in the fields I mentioned. If you have something else that's a better predictor, then go ahead and say what it is.

>legit professor tells you to clean your room
>"OH MY NON EXISTANT GOD YOU ARE A FUCKING ALT RIGHT DEMAGOGUE"
>chinese cunt tells you to clean your room
>"YAAAS QYEEN MAI WAIFU"

For sure, I don't disagree with the idea that IQ represents something important for Humans. But I want to see something to back up the claims about it being the single greatest predictor for almost everything important in life.

Not even to be a contentious asshole, just so I can read the study that seems to be indirectly cited so often.

>being a wagecuck
It's like you're trying to fail

>It is however, the best measurement we have to predict success in the fields I mentioned
Okay and can you give a reference for that please?

>Also on the left. He has some interesting lectures but when he comments on leftist ideology, it comes across as uninformed.

Ted Kaczynski has a much much better insight into the mind of a leftist IMO, especially as I used to be one and he's basically spot on with my mindset at the time.

>perfectly correlated
It's not perfectly correlated, it's the best measure available because the social sciences are such a fucking joke
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.683.1926&rep=rep1&type=pdf

There are loads of studies just type IQ into google scholar or read the Bell curve if you want a popsci book

IQ means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Wake up have sex

No, I'm not in a formal debate with you, and I don't actually give a shit if you're too low IQ to type in a few words on google without someone holding your hand.

My father never told me that. He bought everything to me. Gave me everything and just was missing and just dragging me and the rest of the family to do what HE liked. He never had a real conversation with me, just making jokes (when I was a kid) or arguing about stupid things on the television.

clean your room zoomers

imagine the smell!

>ben shapiro

lol no

>tells me to clean my dick
>tells me to clean my room
>literally says nothing

The absolute state of dick-cheese millennials.

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challenge your father to do something you like to do

Then you might as well be talking out of your ass.
It's easy to show the importance of IQ, but another thing entirely to prove its absolute dominance in so many areas. I don't think I've ever done a study that does that

>My father never told me that. He bought everything to me. Gave me everything and just was missing and just dragging me and the rest of the family to do what HE liked. He never had a real conversation with me, just making jokes (when I was a kid) or arguing about stupid things on the television.

Indeed. Theres a whole generation of men who were never taught these basic verbal hand me downs, and now we have a bunch of men wandering around, not knowing how to act in the world. Which is also how we get people not even knowing what gender they are, or thinking that inviting the entirety of Africa into Europe is a good idea.

Why are people paying some oldass bitch money to tell them to wash their penises and clean their rooms?

After this whole thread, all we've learned is that Jordan Peterson is a TERF?

What an inclusive guy

>Then you might as well be talking out of your ass.

I'm not though, and I know I'm, because I'm clearly more knowledgeable on the subject than you are as you're the one without basic knowledge of what IQ even means as a measurement.

>It's easy to show the importance of IQ, but another thing entirely to prove its absolute dominance in so many areas.

Then it should be easy to show a better predictor, right? You fucking brainlet.

Because they don't have balls and expect Mom to do everything?

I'd argue that being able ramble for 20 minutes and not once be able to say anything of note is a talent.

>he thinks IQ is a measurement for success

Except your knowledge isn't backed up by anything empirical, so what use is it?

For someone that touts the importance of IQ, you sure seem to misunderstand how logic and proof works. There doesn't need to be a counter example if you haven't proved anything in the first place.

>his book
You seriously didn't buy that... did you?

>He never had a real conversation with me, just making jokes (when I was a kid) or arguing about stupid things on the television.

You poor, tortured faggot.

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>Except your knowledge isn't backed up by anything empirical, so what use is it?

Just because you're too lazy to do your own research doesn't mean the research doesn't exist you brainlet.

Friendly reminder we're not in a formal debate. I don't have to prove shit to you. Do your own goddamn research. Or keep being an ignorant faggot. I don't care either way.

I have done my own research, it just doesn't align with the exaggerated claims you're making. So I'm obviously asking for something to back up what you're saying. Why is that triggering you so bad?

Jordan Peterson summed up in a minute

youtube.com/watch?v=e8nTs14qHEI

that guy looks like a idiot

Why does le based penis washing men go completely catatonic whenever someone brings up the JQ?

None of them have patreon anymore.

i think because it makes him uncomfortable at the realization of the types of people his fanbase is composed of

That one was great.

That's a massive selective view, oversimplification and ignoring big portions of history. Put /pol/ to rest and check out real sources like books and newspapers for starters.
Don't come back with your Breitbart and other rightwing kikery sites and infographics.

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just reverse the law and get him to shut the fuck up already.

He literally regurgitates the same thing every time he debates.

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It's because he doesn't have an answer

You say that like you actually expect anyone with an IQ greater than 70 to take your incel/Muslim cult shit seriously

he prides himself on hearing out any position and responding to it, as a matter of prinicple

If you answer neonazis in any way that doesn’t agree with them they call you Jewish. I don’t think he considers you human

this he has no stance on anything

>wash your foreskin for 2 hours in his zizek debate

Boy, people will be questioning capitalism after paying for 1000 dollar front seats.

You don't have to be a neonazi to notice that Jews do shady shit. A lot of people throughout history have noticed that.

Again his thing is to hear out whatever position and then rationally argue with it

Reminds me of these free church sect like charlatans/ television evangelists from years ago.

>Or something like that.
the fact peterson can't fucking say the exact thing he should be saying is simply your only tip off that:
1 he's a fuck-up that will ruin your life if you try to follow advice from.
2 he doesn't actually want you to do anything except waste time

Everyone does shady shit you nigger.
People make the same claims about WASPs and Chinese, at least as far as being insular, nepotistic, and elitist goes.

>a lot of people throughout history have noticed it
Catholics and Muslims, the two most evil religious groups on the planet. fucking lol

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He's one of those gurus who make self improvement sound like fucking torture.

And there is some truth to the claims about wasps and chinese, but not quite to the same degree as Jews. Theyre an anomaly

>didn't let him talk
was curious what he was gonna ask him.nope lets hold him down and pray cause that gonna fucking help him

>you don’t have to be a [ ] to notice that [ ] do shady shit. A lot of people throughout history have noticed that.
You could put anything in those brackets. Your loaded slimy rat language is so typical of neonazis.

The literal progenitor of the Protestant Reformation wrote a book called The Jews and their Lies

>he has no stance on anything

not so fast mister

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>>controlled opposition
hard yikes

Im really not into Germans or National socialism but call me whatever you like. Jews have never been popular and they are not like other groups, they dont even consider themselves to be like other people.

the least controversial "controversial" personality out there

proof that trannies and faggots will hate you if you deviate from their world view even slightly

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>I have done my own research, it just doesn't align with the exaggerated claims you're making
So you've found a variable that is a more accurate predictor than IQ? What is it?

Jews race-mix BY FAR the most of any group in America, it isn’t even close. You are deranged.

Yeah Im aware that they're losing their identity, though the Orthodox still retain it somewhat. That doesn't change their behavior in the past few centuries

Youre clearly incapable of discussing this calmly so maybe find a different thread

how has human emissions of CO2 saved anyone?

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!

Why do you guys hate him so much? Is it becuase he accurately describes you all

How do we stop them? they literally own Hollywood.

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>that doesn’t change their behavior the last few centuries
Unless their behavior is worse than someone else’s, this is a pointless thing to say. I can tell you’re a /pol/ brainlet by the way you speak in vague cowardly generalities.

psychologist, not psychiatrist.

Their involvement in banking, financing wars, communism, the social sciences, the press, the American state department, AIPAC, human trafficking, etc.

jej

if they dont finance the wars whos gonna?

I wish I could make a living off of saying that I don't have to identify trannies as their preferred gender. It's amazing that there is so much blowup from this. These mentally ill people, who kill themselves at a ridiculously high rate, think that society should cater to them. The trannies and the gender non-conformists need to give it a rest, because gender identity is not a personality.

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>How do we stop them?
Stop buying tickets.

it's more the fact that they cherish and value inclusiveness and "tribal" nature while bring everything else down

youtube.com/watch?v=n16uBK71miQ

>White people grouping up is bad
>Everyone else is grouping up, but if you group up to defend yourself you are just as bad as them and lose

He is retarded, or malicious

This
Him and others talk about mundane shit like feminism like they are on the edge. But ignore real issues like mass immigration

All of those things are either lies, meaningless, or apply to every single group of people on Earth. I get that you’re retarded but try making a similar list for another group. Im actually struggling to comprehend how it’s possible for anyone to have a brain as defective as the average /pol/ poster.

I don't know what the most accurate predictor is. That's why I was hoping you could back-up your claims about IQ.

Jews are the least tribal people on earth. In the US they intermarry 5 times more than white Christians

>voting can change things
Imagine being this naive

I can guarantee that if we were speaking about another subject you would find me perfectly intelligent and pleasant, it's just your kneejerk reaction to consider antisemites as hateful idiots.

There is not another European minority that went around and had influential roles in a huge number of important institutions and movements the way Jews have done. The closest contenders are groups like Episcopalians in 20th century America who dominated business and finance alongside Jews. There is no Chinese AIPAC or Romanian Boas.

What you could maybe speak of is an alliance of sorts between a white elite(wasp and catholic) and a Jewish elite, but because none of this was conspiracy, but informal movements based on ideology and ethnic ties, any such grouping is ephemeral and kind of arbitrary.

no he doesn't brainlet
you are more likely to be successful the higher your iq is

success is dependent on environment and who you are connected with

that is also a factor

Ah I see the trick where it only “counts” if the group is a minority, which conveniently takes 99.9999% of the world’s evil people out of the equation so you can cherry pick muh Jews. But of course not the 40% of Nobel prize winners.

>Yea Forums Television & Film

My dad is redpilled on the JQ, please don't compare him to Juden Peterstein

An entire society cannot act as a subversive element within itself, please remain serious.

The Nobels are a bit of a meme but Ashkenazi Jews are obviously very intelligent and have contributed many important things to science, art, and philosophy.

>I have done my own research, it just doesn't align with the exaggerated claims you're making
>I don't know what the most accurate predictor is
Nani?

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eq is actually more important for success. u autists wouldnt know anything about that

Who cares about fucking movies anymore faggot?

Because I've never read anything academic that says IQ is the most accurate predictor for X, Y, and Z. Just that it's important.

In fact, someone gave me an academic article before that shows the issue is more complex than people make it out to be. The importance of IQ for how much you earn is more important in technical fields and less so in things to do with manual labor. So, to even begin to say that IQ is the de facto most important thing for your job earnings would have to show it for a variety of cases.

Also, just logically speaking, I don't have to have a counter proposal when asking for evidence.

The initial claim is that IQ is the most accurate predictor for income. You claimed that your research has found that my initial claim was wrong. You then got BTFO'd and here we are.
I'm not responsible for your education. You have the repository of all human knowledge at your fingertips and you choose to believe what unironic homos tell you LMAO.

look at super high IQ people throughout history. they didn't exactly live the most amazing lives until they were a lot older

Actually, I was responding to this: Where the person says IQ is the single greatest predictor of a number of cases. All I wanted is some evidence of that. Someone responded with an article that showed IQ was important, but not of greatest importance, hence my point.

So, I take it you have nothing to back your claims up and are flailing to get out of this one. Right?

what are you talking about?

oh o.....

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What pisses me off is his hypocrisy. He goes around bashing political correctness and defending free speech to death while he selectively dodges murky waters not to get his business in trouble. He literally did a tour in EU talking about all that without a single comment on the Union, immigration or Islam.

He's going to asked about 200 years together when he debates zizek in a week and a half.

Just wait.

>muh subversion

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>choosing not to talk about certain subjects is hypocrisy
the narcissism of the altrighturd

>choosing not to talk about certain subjects to preserve that check
he got too big for his own good

Get back in your wage cage.

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yall politics niggas are gay as hell stfu.

You can't talk about gender roles without bringing up the very things that are actively destroying them, guy's telling you to clean your room in a burning house. The leftist marxism he comments so much about is deeply rooted in politics.

why is harris cupping his balls? couldn't he just have not spread his legs so wide for the photo...?

he makes a living off being a university professor

>but will never be a CEO
Look up nepotism.

He's just capitalizing on stupid people who drink "lol leftist marxism" and similar dog whistle shit up. The irony of all these shits is that they are victims of capitalism themselves. Alt-right talking heads wouldn't have to make 600 videos about "söyboys" while simultaneously shilling a prostate creme (which is literally made out of söy, but shhhhh) on YouTube if it was that easy to make a living.

The millennials are right and these people aren't even in denial about it. They're actually angry at society for it and are doing this as some kind of "revenge." Scratch a cynic you'll find a disappointed idealist.

Just my personal opinion, of course.

He's just capitalizing on stupid people who drink "lol leftist marxism" and similar dog whistle shit up. The irony of all these shits is that they are victims of capitalism themselves. Alt-right talking heads wouldn't have to make 600 videos about "basedboys" while simultaneously shilling a prostate creme (which is literally made out of onions, but shhhhh) on YouTube if it was that easy to make a living.

The millennials are right and these people aren't even in denial about it. They're actually angry at society for it and are doing this as some kind of "revenge." Scratch a cynic you'll find a disappointed idealist.

Just my personal opinion, of course.

we heard you and no one cared, fuck off

So he's entire shtick is boilerplate conservative idiocy and a smear of just world fallacy on top?

And to think I actually thought there might be something deeper and more respectable to the guy.

youtube.com/watch?v=WXYuqrO8LLo

This isn't always the case but is so fucking true with Jordan Peterson. Whether it's a public display of acting or not is debatable but the nigger really puts on the "tortured intellectual" show whenever he's doing a public talk

>Scratch a cynic you'll find a disappointed idealist.
That post was all over the place but I liked that quote.

he also makes a lot of comical hysteric lies, but remember he's a jungian so that's not out of character

Bump

maybe he actually is a tortured intellectual?

this is so gay holy shit

>t. asian

I don't think the alt-right are big fans of capitalism either desu

(((peterson)))

just your typical snake oil salesman

Damn jewterson makes a lot of dosh from telling people to not worry about demographics, who would've thunk.

He's an autist like all boomers.
>environment burning the fuck away
>crisis of politics and seemingly untouchable business interests
>pls clean your room

It's not a bad advice but it's betrays some kind of mental health issue and obsession, no matter the pseudo-intellectual reasons behind it.

>you're using your unearned ... ... GIFT
Just say it, you dumb kike, PRIVILEGE, lmao.

Are you an altruist? Do you work for free?

>Jordan Peterson
>Intellectual
Name me one idea that Jordan Peterson has contributed to humanity that will live on after he is dead. He's nothing, people need to stop glorifying him. I'll extend an olive branch and say that with his clinical work and self help book he's probably improved the lives of thousands of people. This does not make him a great intellectual to be respected.

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I respect him more than many well known commie intellectuals like Foucault, Sartre or other commie faggots.

this explains a lot

This was such a good video that Jordan Peterson actually responded to it by tweeting it out to his followers so they would mass-dislike lmao

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>I respect him
That's really cool user. Now actually try answering my question, if you can

He has done better for society that many well known commie faggot intellectuals like the ones that I named you. There you have it. Read it again.

>right-wing nutjobs calling each other dogs of Soros now, tearing at each others throats
When will they understand it that they adhere to an erosive, self-destructive ideology? Is it really that difficult to see it from the inside? You CAN'T build a stable society on foundations of paranoid fascism.

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if you don't think peterson is an actual dick sucking faggot I have some worrying news for you

lmao

>peterson
>right-wing
It's all explained here - I suggest you watch it before you make yourself look any more retarded.

Respectfully, respect is a fuck-all value, user. You will respect whoever tells you what you like to hear. In other words you respect only yourself, and project it outwards only to deny inherent egoism of it.

That being said, Peterson is probably just a footnote in history.

>Jordan Peterson is not an intellectual. Name me one idea that Jordan Peterson has contributed to humanity that will live on after he is dead.
>"I respect him a lot and he has done better for society than communists"
You didn't address anything I said. I don't care about your opinion of Jordan Peterson I was very specific. I think you need to read what I said again, brainlet.

Did you even read Sartre you reactionist mongo?

>I disowned him because he became a liability so you are a retard for calling him right wing now he is no longer "one of us" look at the evidence
Yeah, like I said. I'm eager awaiting which of your core members will "turn out to be the enemy" next.

>respect is a fuck-all value
It's with statements like this that civilizations fall. Look east and tell me respect has no value.

>it's another jobless incel trying to detract a PhD thread
>"all shrinks are mentally ill"

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>thinking of race when somebody posts a screenshot of a movie as part of his post
Your brain is hysteric my little nu-fag, LOL.

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this guy can never be wrong. and he'll basically filibuster you if you bring up a good counter

How about you look north to this post: and respond properly

I'm just glad no ones linked to that awful fucking contrapoints video. Sick of people pretending that el goblina is smart just because they want to deep dick them.

Focault, Sartre, Hegel, the school of frankfurt... all disgusting commies.

I'm not the guy you were replying to, in fact I agree with that statement. That being said, claiming that respect means nothing is arrogant.

Kermit was never right-wing you dimwit, he came out of literal nowhere because he didn't want to use certain pronouns.
And from there on he has injected himself wherever he could to increase his shekels, and with great effect.
If you actually listened to what he's saying you'd realize he's not right-wing at all.
Luckily for you, it's all summarized in this excellent video linked here -

Happens to all their demagogues who don't fall in line with what perverted view they ever develop. Same fate had this blonde fag Yiannopoulos, Southern and probably also that other raging faggot who was in vogue a couple of months ago.

No I was thinking your race was asian because you were butthurt and defending asians, retard.

Fair enough my bad

>my masters whose powers depend on my respect told me this

It's a true mystery why they would say that.

You clearly don't hang out in right-wing areas so don't claim you know what their thoughts are. You're just guzzling the cum of the mainstream media who label Jordan and others as right-wing and then believe you're informed.

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And the next one is going to have an "excellent video" too.

Until there are only two people left on Earth and they kill each other calling each other 'the enemy.'

This is bait, right? Nobody would put Foucault, Hegel, and Sartre in the same sentence and imply them to have similar ideologies. And not even an american would ever call Hegel a commie.

>Cultural Marxism
You can't take these youtube rightwing nutters seriously when they come up yet again with that invented umbrella term for everything they don't like. Cultural Marxism doesn't exist. And don't come back with "but it does!". Read the books by Satre who criticised the exploitation of culture by capitalism.
Your video is yet another inane rambling stretched to thirty minutes explaining his schizophrenic stance on Peterson.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
didn't dis nigga say he figured out morality or someshit

fuck outta here. sam harris is dumb as fuck

They have to keep coming up with new umbrella terms because all of them lose legitimacy upon inspection.

And you can't just call the enemy "the bad dudes".

It doesn't really matter what his political stance is when he sought out and cashes in on his 'conservative' fanbase. His intentions are noble, don't get me wrong. But he is partly also retarded with his cases.

>Your video is yet another inane rambling stretched to thirty minutes explaining his schizophrenic stance on Peterson.
In what way is it schizophrenic? It's very concise and consistent throughout, so by all means, where does it go astray?

You say that from a perspective of abuse. Of course respect means shit when you're being manipulated, but there are genuine reasons to trust people and seek guidance from them. True respect is a form of humility, you just have to pick right not to get played.

>His intentions are noble
lmao what? Did you slay the dragon bro?

Communists should be killed in the streets alongside LGBT and Furries

Hiring a maid is how a child's mind would solve an adult's problem.

I didn't watch the video because I don't want the brain damage but I read the description
>anti-white agenda
>insidious political ideology called radical centrism
>WNs calling anyone else insidious
You fucking slimes are all the same

>I didn't watch the video
:^)

The value of true respect is greatly diminished by 80% of humanity just respecting whoever tells them what they want to hear. The value of respect as evidence in an argument is therefore next to nothing user.

I am not wrong about this, user.

Base your idea of a person's value on something other than how many people respect them.

>Your video is yet another inane rambling stretched to thirty minutes explaining his schizophrenic stance
>oh also I didn't watch it lmao

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic_of_Enlightenment
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Critique_of_Western_civilization
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_Marxism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Marxism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Kojève
iep.utm.edu/kojeve/#H6
weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/
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not the same person dipfuck

Right in the beginning when he frames Jordan as a puppet or con man to neutralise the right.
Your youtube man is also using terms lose again like cultural marxism, or other terms are being used to sound powerful and produce an imaginary enemy, "the final solution to right wing". Nobody is going to kill others because of different political opinion.
That's typical rightwing nutter tactic and talk, same went with the idea of omnipresent SJW, threatening free speech in every part of their lives.
SJW are a fucking radical minority which doesn't have any power except mobbing someone up on twitter or on campus. They are as political as armchair intellectuals.

Jesus Christ, just zapping through it's the use of buzzwords over and over again with le ebil marxist. This is a waste of time. If you think that Marxism is around every corner, there is nothing more to help you. You are so far deep down the ideological radicalisation that no rational explanation will reach you.

For anyone else, I highly recommend staying away from /pol/ for good and stop eating their fabricated infographics, as the people who blindly eat up videos as you posted are the same who gobble up stormniggi shit.

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>hiring someone to do a job I don't want to do (the cornerstone of capitalism) is bad
>them communists are the bad guys, by the way

I feel like there's a lot to unpack here. Mostly insecurities about perceived adulthood, and personal agency/power.

Were you just hoping no one reads anything from that? Because all you learn when you read about Frankfurt school and critical theory is that it had absolutely nothing to do with anything you idiots say

Then why are you even replying you double retard, lmao so desperate to defend your idol, this is pathetic.

Your point?

>n-not the same person dipfuck!!!
Oh is that why you responded to the question acting as if you wrote that previous post? How nice of you user. Sorry for thinking you slimes are all the same

>Base your idea of a person's value on something other than how many people respect them.
I think we're on different wavelengths, I'm talking about respect by itself, not in relation to peterson (maybe you think I'm the other user). Anyways, most people trashing the meaning of respect doesn't mean it ceased to be valuable. Again, it's about picking right and not falling into manipulation or groupthink.

This reminds me that there was a study lately that showed that people only tend to read article headlines now, they don't even read the articles themselves. They can get enraged about just a headline, and spawn a tale about what they think they would've read, as if they actually read it.

>Nobody is going to kill others because of different political opinion
Stopped reading right there. The only person divorced from reality is you.

Where does it become schizophrenic? Point out something concrete instead of this "I just don't like it".

You are uneducated and probably didn't even understand the message the slightest.

>This reminds me about this headline from a study I read

>framing Peterson as a con man
>cultural marxism everywhere
>ebil left everywhere
>self-victimisation and thinking that people demand a final solution to people with different political believes other than the mainstream which is supposedly left
>not schizophrenic
Is it clear now? Otherwise, read again.

So, anyone around you got killed because they voted Trump? A crazy town you live in.

>dialectic method
>cultural marxism
When are we declaring breathing as cultural marxism because some people you don't like do it?

Not that guy, but the cultural Marxism and Frankfurt school stuff is pretty schizophrenic.

Hell, just calling everything you dislike 'Marxist' feels like a paranoid red scare tactic straight out of the 1950s.

Yes I was countering that anons respect for Peterson being an actual evidence of anything but his affinity with he message. Which means nothing is the message is stupid and so is the person.

We can talk about respect as a concept. I don't think it warrants much of a discussion because I think in it's true form it's a naturally arising emotion in those capable of humility and awe. I've respected a few people throughout my life too, some of them I got disillusioned with and others I did not. My respect for them also did not stabilize society, nor did the lack therefor destabilize it. This respect in also unaffected by indoctrination or lack thereof, or politics, in general. You cannot command anyone to feel it or stop feeling it. you cannot teach people against it. You cannot destroy it.

Autocrats fer the destruction of the fake, unearned, forced respect they demand for themselves, and they fear it becasue they depend on it. Its disappearance is the symptom of a society falling apart, not the cause of it. It is natural when the true incompetency of a sophistry comes to the surface people become disillusioned. The maintenance of that society will not depend of enforcing said "respect", first of off because you will fall at enforcing it, second is because maintenance is no longer possible at that point, the society -will- fall or change.

There is no threat here. It has happened countless times. The fall of a civilization is not the only time there is a crisis of respect. It's just a very visible one. Many societies went on to simply transform.

fuck, you got me.

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>a paranoid red scare tactic straight out of the 1950s.
amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/1400081068

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>framing Peterson as a con man
Paid in the millions to co-opt the right.

>cultural marxism everywhere
When is this mentioned?

>self-victimisation and thinking that people demand a final solution to people with different political believes other than the mainstream which is supposedly left
Open a history book or something, christ you people are thick.

>ebil left everywhere
The US is completely and utterly drenched in it, at this point I'm not sure how one can argue otherwise, if anything, it's you who come across as schizophrenic in trying to downplay the complete subversion that has occured.
The all-father of DNA has just had his honors revoked because he dared say that intelligence is linked to DNA.
You have old war memorials being disgraced and torn down across the country because of "problematic history".
And let's not forget the zimmerman trials where the media played a huge role in the public understanding of what transpired, millions of normies still think to this day that trayboon was innocent, and why? Because your leftist media has made it so.

>look at my deeply biased partizan source
>reddit spacing
???

And yet you nor anyone else can refute it.

But that's not cultural Marxism. You've started from this point that cultural Marxism is the progressive SJW trend and so you take any argument to the contrary as an argument against the existence of the latter. I don't deny that SJW's and their like exist, but to call it 'Marxist' in any form is absolutely absurd and represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the ideology in its simplest form. It's a way of dredging up old cold war hostilities and employing it against the modern western left, as though they wouldn't be as big a disgrace in former Soviet countries as they are here.

>But that's not cultural Marxism
You're the one attributing everything said in the video, and by me, to be an attack on cultural marxism, I haven't said shit about marxism and I don't need to either.
Call it what you want.

Peterson is paid because he is a lector and promoting his self-help program. He probably won't settle for left or right because of that. Otherwise, he would scare away one of his potential buyers and fanboys.
Quite ironic that when your parents in your teens said, "clean your room!" it was ignored, but now Peterson says it and a crowd cheers to how brilliant he is. Just making fun, don't take that too serious.

I think you fell quite deep into the /pol/ and other demagogue stuff if you say that everything is subverted with left/marxist/or whatever. The only thing I can tell you is that you should put these demagogues and /pol/ aside for a while. I browsed that place for a long while too and ate up these infographics without checking the source material most of the times. That's now a couple of years ago.
If you come across infographics, check out the source material yourself, I would highly put this to you. You will see very quickly that it's fabricated and twisted to create a narrative of self-victimization and constant fear. Ironic again, that this is the same tactic SJW use to self-victimise themselves and use that to justify inane manoeuvres.

Imagine being proud of your race something you had no choice or control over.

Some people have little to be proud of, yet they feel the need to participate in the "pride game," and to win it. It's like that.

Imagine being so proud of your intelligence (something you had no choice or control over) you talk down to others on 4channel

Like literally all 3 of those examples that you listed sound like you heard those versions of them from right wing sources. that's what the problem is. People subscribe to narratives instead of doing research, and that includes you.

This conflict is a lot easier than it seems. It's not about any of the details. It's egalitarianism vs social darwinism.

why wouldn't you be proud of your race though?
(afro americans don't need to answer this one)

Intelligent people don't tend to be proud of their intelligence, they are sad that they live in a world full of dumb people. That is their dominant emotion about the experience, not pride. If they're more optimistic, then neither.

Right, so now your issue is just that cultural marxism is being misrepresented, by all means, straighten it out for us.

Not the person you were talking to. I just chimed in.

You niggers need to stop doing that then.

Please, I've told you before. Don't do that.

Sitting around feeling sad that there are stupid people in the world is still an expression of pride, brainlet. Every single genuinely intelligent person I've met is off pursing their interests, not paying attention to what other "dumb" people are doing.
I don't think you're qualified to be the spokesperson on intelligence.

>Like literally all 3 of those examples that you listed sound like you heard those versions of them from right wing sources
Obviously, because the left wouldn't report on it, let alone acknowledge it.
But go ahead, give us the true version then.

Is this a copy-pasta from reddit?

>3 lines of text
>pasta
Sure is brainlet in here.