How deep is Disney’s mouse dick up Rian’s asshole?

The Mouse is going to send big men with baseball bats to retcon Rian Johnson.

This honestly, I'd take a hilariously bad movie over boring corporate schlop

Please be fake, I can't take the clownworld anymore.

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what does anna kendrick have against rian johnson

>opening scene of episode 9
>it's Rey arriving at Luke's planet again

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>taking clickbait headlines seriously
You just know some faggy E! News reporter asked him if they would be ok with it and he just said "uh sure I guess, it's not my decision, they have full creative control" and then typed this up specifically to piss off niggers like OP

We should retcon Disney.

>dream sequence music
>rey wakes up in a cold sweat
>WHAT A CRAZY DREAM

>Luke wakes up suddenly and in a cold sweat.
>He looks around frantically confirming his suroundings.
>He is in his hut, in his bed.
>He sits up contimplating for a moment. was it all just a dream?
>He runs to his communicator and calls up Leia. Han is dead. But they destroyed the first order base.
>What of the fleet? Safe? It must of been a preminition of a possible future. One where he didn't act in time.

God, what a sponge. He can't even stick by with his own vision, even though that'd what he wanted Star Wars fans to accept his. A literal corporate shill with no integrity.

It was all C3PO's dream

Kyon-kun, Denwa!

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Why don't they just hyperspace ram X into Y to stop Z?

>It must of been a preminition of a possible future. One where he didn't act in time.
>One where they let a woman command the fleet.
Ftfy

>wipes away the piss stain of TLJ but leaves the festering turd that was TFA

This would be even worse than just keeping TLJ and following on from that mess.

>destroy a car with baseball bats
>set it on fire
>drive it off a cliff
ayo wtf i want a do-over on this shit

It's not like that would be a difficult journey. They seem to pop about the galaxy (all four locations) in minutes. It has the scale of a cul-de-sac.

>Opening scene of episode 9
>Anakin wakes up from the crazy dream he just had to Obi-wan pounding on his door and yelling about how the Separatists have kidnapped the Supreme Chancellor

This is literal DCEU behavior. Cringe.

>sudden prequel Kino again
>More Sheev
Yes

They're desperate to shit episode IX out so they can make everyone forget that prequel trilogy ever existed. Then they'll slow burn spin-offs for a while before trying anything big again.

easiest way to do a recon is when luke dies to say he teleported himself out of that existence and back in time as a force ghost to tell himself of the future that should not come to pass

>Episode 9 opens
>ending of Episode 8 plays
>Luke opens his eyes after meditating
>it was all a premonition
>does the complete opposite of every single thing he did in Episode 8
>ends up surviving and converts Kylo to back to the Jedi and restarts the order to take down the New Order

>Opening scene of episode 9
>Darth Revan wakes up from the crazy dream he had about losing his memories and all that followed 4000 years later

>Ghost Obi-wan, Yoda, Anakin and Luke are fighting with Sheev over the cosmic remote and have accidentally hit the rewind button
>we start over at Episode 1 with a bunch of force ghosts constantly harassing the cast

I thought you fags hated TLJ????

Now you don't want them to retcon it??????

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Who is this "you" you're referring to?

>luke opens his eyes from meditating just as the millenium falcon with rey is landing

Some people just want to see the world burn

Disney has the best lawyers in the world so I'm gonna guess deep enough to see the tip when he opens his stupid manchild mouth.

should have been disney hq instead of wtc

And he's loving every inch of it.

not unless they also retcon TFA, otherwise its pointless

I didn't like the The Last Jedi but I'll lose even more respect for Disney Wars if they retcon it. Lucas never backpedaled on his ideas if they were unpopular. He had a vision and stuck with it regardless of how it was received by critics or fans.
Retconning ideas or story lines on the whims of the fanbase has never been what Star Wars was about.

Not at all. He's adopted a persona of not caring at all about how anybody reacts to the Last Jedi
Any talk of retconning or remaking it just increases the impact of what he did in his mind

I'm still convinced Rian made it terrible on purpose. He stole shit from Jedi that I'm sure they were planning on using liberally in IX.

There is quite literally nothing that they can do to fix it. Retconning would be an awkward waste of time. JJ just needs to conclude the trilogy with finality, preferably killing off Rey, Poe and Finn so no one in the future can consider making a spin off. 5 years from now they can consider trying again.

The simple thing to do is have Luke come back from becoming one with the force and act like the real Luke

The consensus on Yea Forums is that TLJ is a bad movie
Retconning the second part of a trilogy in the same trilogy is embarrassing and makes it seem like you as a company don't know what the fuck you're doing.

Retcon or not, the movie still sucked though.

I don't really care either way because at this point the meta narrative around the sequel trilogy is far more interesting than the actual trilogy

Rian's movie was bad, like Highlander 2 bad. It's going to be packed into the memory hole of what not to do in movies ever again.

Looking back, it's pretty amazing to think the Highlander franchise even survived that fucking horseshit and still bounced back, with several movies after and the TV series.

>set out to make a trilogy based on a movie from forty years ago
>demand that the first entry be a retelling of that first movie
>hire a director who complies while making zero plans for the next two movies

I don't get it. Why didn't they plan out the trilogy with set storylines and character arcs instead of letting each director write their individual movie themselves?

I will not be fine.

>Drip-fed leaks will not save IX
>JJ will not save IX
>Reylo will not save IX
>A new mystery box Macguffin will not save IX
>The Knights of Ren will not save IX
>Retconning TLJ will not save IX
>Callbacks to the prequels will not save IX
>Lando will not save IX
>Practical effects will not save IX

The only part that truly annoys me is the treatment of Mark Hamill. Like who the fuck is Rian Johnson to just completely ignore Hamill's suggestions about a character he clearly does not understand. He understands in a very human way the Star Wars universe. His simple insistence that Luke would never just give up has the sincere goodness and heroism Star Wars is about, especially in contrast to absolute evil. But even beyond that he knew basic story telling, like saving the punch of killing of Luke till the end. For some reason, this weird little fuck just gets to overrule all of that

These movies are directed-by-committee. JJ got told to remake A New Hope because that's what Disney's executives thought would make the most money. Planning beyond that first movie without seeing the box office proceeds and critical response doesn't sit right with boardrooms, as they can't have a puerile knee-jerk reaction to it, like Rian did by 'subverting expectations' after everyone complained about what a rehash TFA was.

Doesn't matter. Star Wars is forever fucked up. They let Carrie Fisher die before they actually did anything useful with her. Harrison Ford is too fucking old to be an action hero. Only Mark can play the wizened old Jedi.

Because Disney just gathered fan criticism from the internet and adjusted to it like a cold calculated machine instead of recognizing the machine like nature of the prequels was perhaps its biggest flaw.
>Star Wars films work best with indy directors with vision
>JJ Abrams made a Star Trek reboot that would have been better for Star Wars
>Lets hire JJ and other directors!
>Also Laurence Kasdan because he was the guy who made Empire so great
>If we just take all the elements of the original and twist them around a bit, it will be a smashing success

>Rey uses her new ability to use the Force called "Force Travel" to travel back in time when she arrived in Luke's island to undo the events

Because Rey didn't mind Luke. According to Based Hamill, she found his estranged brother Jake, hence why he acted like a complete autist throughout the movie. It wasn't Luke.

Legit? I'd love that feel kinda bad tho lol

>While speaking to Johnson at CinemaCon 2019, MTV asked the writer and director of The Last Jedi if he’d be bothered if Star Wars: Episode IX co-writer and director J.J. Abrams retconned the revelation that Rey’s parents were no one. Johnson immediately shook his head and replied, “Like I said, man, I want to let go of all my expectations. I want to sit back. I want to be entertained. I want to be surprised. I want to be thrilled. I want him to do stuff I wasn’t expecting him to do and just go along for the ride.”
Oh look, it's literally fucking nothing
Clickbaitfags get the rope

>didn't mind
didn't find*

It didn't help that Harrison Ford never loved playing Han Solo and had been trying to get him killed for decades. If they made his character anything other than a more pathetic Han from A New Hope, then they wouldn't have wasted his talent on a character they could not keep for long.

And you bastards didn't believe me when I purely guessed that JJ is gonna retcon the hell out of it.

>He fucked up the continuity to make sure they did something different to personally entertain him
Dare I say b-based?

Its not really retconning when the approach to every plot point from the last one was
>I don't know who cares let the past die

lmao it should just pick up right after the force awakens and pretend like the last Jedi never happened

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This. Start with New Jedi Order or the Cade Skywalker BS starring Hamill, Ford, and a recast Leia. Oh, and Julianne Moore as retired force milf Mara Jade.

Then, give Filoni a Clone Wars-tier budget and have him do a teen-oriented show based on the Thrawn books, Dark Empire, and all of the classic post-ROTJ EU from the 90s.

TFA was hilariously dumb though
>busting out a space club to lightsaber fight
>lightsaber hilt that wouldn't even stop a blade if it could slide down the lightsaber
>treasure map to luke that was just missing a chunk in the middle
>super deathstar
>size comparison of super deathstar next to old boring deathstars

whereas TLJ's stupidity was just mindboggling instead of ridiculous because it made the plot nonsensical
>hyperspace ramming
>cloaking devices that can be scanned through
>but they don't run those scans by default
>low speed chase against the only people in the galaxy opposing you
>finn and rose teleporting back to the rebel bunker
>casino exclusively for weapons dealers
>yo momma into soloing a capital ship's defenses

It kills me that we never saw a grizzled Admiral Han, like some cross between his character in K-19 and some classic space anime like LOGH or Macross. Make him a secondary character like Admiral Ackbar, leading the New Republic forces into battle in his Super Star Destroyer or something like that.

>He had a vision
Well there's your main difference there.

For TFA that space club shit is pretty baffling.
>What purpose would this serve beyond this one oddly specific fight?
>There are almost no active lightsaber users in the galaxy
>The training would never actually help someone defeat a Jedi
>Nor help anyone in a blaster fight
Zero purpose. The comparisons just pissed me off because Han mocked it by saying how do we blow it up? Then they compare them to say this is a big deal because its bigger, and then Han was right anyways. All of that plot absurdity for a third act.
For TLJ I can forgive the chase through space, its a fine set up for interesting things to happen they just did not justify it well. Or use it well by breaking its own rules so much

>real Luke
his name is Truke

I understand some of the complaints with the handling of Luke's story, but

a) that's not only Rian's fault
b) Mark is an actor not a writer, an actor's job is to support the story the best they can, not to try and dictate what they want the character to do to appease their personal preferences

Now I'm not saying actors should always get zero say, sometimes director's will ask them for input which can be cool, but in this case that just wasn't the story the director's wanted to tell

>>opening scene of episode 9
>luke closes a book and says to rey "and that's why I went in hiding"
>rey looks disturbed and just nods once

Hol' up. That hyperspace ramming, when I saw it I thought she made a short hyperspace jump and then came out of it at the point of impact. Is it seriously that she just flat out rams them IN hyperspace?

>For TFA that space club shit is pretty baffling.
that's what makes it hilarious. it's idiotic to think that exists but the stupidity is contained enough to not just add to a long slog of nonsense

Especially since one of the original concepts for Han was essentially an older veteran type. It would have been neat to see that character transformation. Especially since Leia's becoming some type of pure military type without the princess stuff as she grew old was done pretty well by Fisher, unfortunately she died. So seeing Harrison Ford do it in a more dignified way for the New Republic could have been great.
The real tragedy is killing Admiral Ackbar like he was nothing

The mystery boxes JJ set up weren't abstract Lost tier mysteries. They were easy as fuck to follow up on, this is all on the idiocy of Rian.

Honestly I really admire that Rian set up things for JJ so that JJ would have no choice but to either

a) actually do something new and original in his hack career

or

b) basically rehash everything again and show the world further what a complete unoriginal hack he is

Unfortunately Rian overestimated JJ because from the looks of things he is indeed going to just rehash things again, even his own movie, instead of actually making use of the story Rian set up for him to do something new and interesting.

He's not going to retcon anything, keep dreaming. He's just going to rehash TFA and TLJ with a different ending.

see: Kylo helmet returning only to inevitably get destroyed again at some point in IX

Which Mark did just fine and accepted. I don't even blame Rian for doing what he did that much, and I'll admit I was simply using him unfairly as a place holder for a larger set of issues I find fault with. The main criticism I have is if you bought a franchise for 4 billion dollars with the goal of recapturing some of its original magic back, maybe consult some of the people essential to that magic originally.

>Yet another Star Wars circlejerk thread on Yea Forums
Bet it's not even the first one today.
>The new movies are shit!
>The old movies are good!
>George Lucas is a genuine artist creator!
>The Prequels get too much hate!
>Disney is evil and they ruin everything!
>They should have made the movies about my favorite EU content!
>The Jews!

There, I summed up the whole thread and all possible outcomes.

lol fucking delusional Han was always going to be a deadbeat 30 year old zoomer dad who couldn't quit smuggling and you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise

You are literally the only person in this thread to even mention jews. What the fuck is your problem?

Perfect. Literally just use the "it was all just a dream", and then Rey wakes up and we see what really happens after she shows up on Luke's planet.

And those are the highlights. The best part is, JewJew is going turbo diversity with this one. Just wait.

>Which Mark did just fine and accepted.

I actually agree. He aired some of his complaints but he also accepted that it's not his story to tell and did his job to the best of his ability. I see fanboys blowing Mark's comments out of proportion all the time and twisting them while also ignoring the positive things he has to say. It's not only disingenuous but it's a weak argument in the first place, because as I just mentioned, Mark is an actor. He could have complained all day about TLJ and it would mean jack shit because that's simply not his job. All it would serve to do is show him as completely unprofessional, which he really isn't at the end of the day if you ignore fanboy edits of his interviews.

People bringing up actor opinions in these threads as proof of anything is just dumb. I don't care what John Boyega had to say, he's an unprofessional whiny bitch and he's just mad he isn't the main character because he wants attention.

Anyway, there are some legitimate complaints about TLJ and TFA but bringing up actor opinions is not an argument and never will be.

I'm mostly withholding my judgement into the trilogy is all said and done. Its a lot of he said she said bullshit until the final product is done. JJ claims he had a plan for the trilogy and Rian took his own direction. Rian says there was no plan and he made due with Disney wanting a film the next year. We will see what is most likely true once it is all over.
That being said tbqh I believe JJ is full of shit. He is the master of taking things not his and making money off of it without any consideration of how that might impact a larger plot. He tricks people with a potentially interesting beginning where a lack of detail is assumed to contain a larger interesting mystery, instead of the writers not having answers. And usually he is gone before the act is up. Now he will actually have to finish his shit.

>The Knights of Ren will not save IX
I remember when I used to be actually excited for those guys. What a waste of hundreds of hours of costume department work.

>Nobody's even mentioning the Jews!

>wanting Disney to touch the EU

>George wakes up on the eve of the release of THX 1138
>“holy hell, thank god I didn’t end up causing all of that”

That's just a fucking edgy take on JJ Abrams name, and yeah he's jewish. No one is talking about jews. What the fuck is your problem?

just literally put it was a dream in the intro word sequence and then go about the movie like it never happened

JJ was sucking Rian's and TLJ's dick. He said he liked the script so much he wish he would've written it himself.

Too bad he meant it literally because IX looks like it is actually going to be a rehash of TLJ but with a different ending.

JJ doesn't have an original bone in his body, he's only good for making misleading trailers which I'm sure will happen with IX as well.

Terrio is the only reason IX might have a halfway-decent ending, but that's bleak if he's the only thing we have to rely on.

io9.gizmodo.com/rian-johnson-is-ok-with-the-possibility-of-star-wars-e-1833840801

>character slowly wakes up
>Bill, I just had the most non-triumphant dream
>Tell me about it Ted
>Bait and switch. Episode 9 is really Bill and Ted 3.
>Everyone is happy and it makes Disney lot's of money.

It's not a waste because their toys will actually sell unlike Rey Rey's.

>Thomas Edison wakes up
> “I must hide this infernal ‘motion picture camera’ contraption so none of this will come to pass!”

>>yo momma into soloing a capital ship's defenses
this was the worst

>The mystery boxes JJ set up weren't abstract Lost tier mysteries
and they were all boring as fuck. I don't give a fuck about Snoke or Ray or the Knights of Ren. I'm glad Rian torpedoed the whole thing.

>Rey

you fucked up

Fans taking what Hamill said and running with it gets to be a bit too much. Especially since it was just him either
>Expressing what he wanted as an actor
>Providing some dry humor to interviews
>Or just trying manage fan expectations
He of course wanted to appear in the movies more, most actors would, and of course wish he got some cooler things to do. He also said playing his own evil twin would be a dream as an actor, so he was just expressing taking pleasure in his job. Him saying its the longest one was just a way of giving a funny answer to questions other stars did not know how to answer. Then he really is just trying to convey the film went in a different direction than fans wanted, and to warn them not to have assumptions that will make them immediately pissed off.

So what's the point of a trilogy?

Not to defend the ST which is fucking trash, but the cringe thing about all post ROTJ EU is how the band of hero's all turn out to be super important high ranking people in the New Republic. I mean I get Luke, with starting the new Jedi order. And Leia I guess, having inherited a seat of power from Bail Organa. But Han, Chewie and Lando were just tagalongs, they were no name randoms who happened to be at the right place at the right time. Why should Han, a fucking smuggler get to be a fucking admiral? What talent does he have for that? Just because he was friends with Luke? What type of nepotistic republic is this?

I want them to. Not because I care about Star Wars anymore, it’s ruined already, but because it would be hilarious.
They’ve spent over a year blaming fans for not liking it, and caving in like this will not only be an admission they fucked up, but an admission with a slavering apology that won’t even work.
The only way retconning TLJ would help Is if they literally wiped they entire movie from existence, which would raise the question as to why the fuck they wasted everyone’s time with making and damage controlling it in the first place.

I hope you know that Luke going into exile because his temple got burned down by patricidal nephew was always in GL's script.

JJ also said he came to the same answer about Rey's parents that Rian did so I don't know what the fuck you are talking about or what you think would have been so much better under JJ's directing because it most likely woudn't have.

Then it all goes so poorly they bring Lucas back fulfilling his master plan. Disney pays four billion to get rid of him, only to bring him back for midichlorian microverse action

Out of all the legitimately bad things these movies have, that's the one you're going with? It's a franchise about aliens and space wizards. What's the big deal about a diverse cast?

I think Hamill genuinely cares about the character and fans so he gets a pass, but he doesn't really need it because most of what he says isn't stepping over the line at all and he is aware of his job as an actor and does it. It's really just fans blowing it out of proportion so they can use it as fuel in their shitflinging as usual.

I'm annoyed actors like Daisy Ridley and John Boyega don't get flack for airing their shitty opinions because unlike Mark, they don't give a fuck about the story or characters. They just want attention or for the story to cater to them. They don't even act like they like the fans most of the time either. Disgusting unprofessional upstarts those two.

Lando was already a general, and Chewie had lived through important roles in the last two major
Galactic Conflicts. Chewie is like the ultimate dad a boomer worships, he fought in WW1 and WW2 somehow.
Han is the only one who might not immediately be the most important, but every person who helped blow up both Death Stars would be a big fucking deal

The behavior of an actor offset is only an issue when it is done in such a way that it forces a response on set. The behavior of Boyega is trying to use larger pieces of culture to influence the story.

in a way thats cool but... too little too late? i the kind of move that can only be appreciated with a lot of distance from the crash, like in 20 years when there will be 40 more star wars movies and fans will be able to pick those who are true to the original pulpy heroic feel.

Lando was a business administrator, so yes he might have the skills to be an officer. A General though is a bit far fetched. Chewie was a ground trooper has has no leaderships skills. At most he'd be a Sgt. Han would be a hero for sure, he'd get another medal. That does't mean you become an officer though.

Obi-Wan was in exile too. Going into exile isn't the problem, it's what he did when he came back.
Imagine if in A new Hope, Luke finds Ben and they're all getting ready to fly off and save the galaxy then Obi-Wan suddenly goes
"see ya around kiddo" and dies.

>whole plot is based around the fact that they’re being tracked and can’t escape
>they also have at least one shuttle, a ship specifically designed around ferrying people, that’s hyperspace capable and not being tracked

>they have to reach a certain base to keep their heads down and call for help
>they also can contact the orange goblin from across the galaxy, presumably without being intercepted given the first order makes no effort to intercept them
People (rightfully) rip it to shreds due to shit that breaks Star Wars, like the character assassination and complete ignorance of basic concepts such as the force or hyperspace, but even if it was a new IP, the movie would be fucking awful

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>the story Rian set up for him

What fucking story? There IS no story that's possible to tell from TLJ's scraps. All Rian did was cut off and close every possible plot thread.

TFA was JJ setting up his "mystery boxes". TLJ was Rian opening up every box, saying there was nothing in any of them, and calling the audience stupid for ever thinking there was something. What the fuck is anyone supposed to do after that? The story is ruined. There's nothing you can do with these characters anymore.

With social media culture being what it is today, an actor airing a shitty opinion publicly and trying to use racism/sexism card to get fans to agree with them and create backlash against the writers to influence them to write the story in favor of their personal whims is absolutely unprofessional. Let's not beat around the bush, it's clear what's going on.

Going to the director and complaining and literally crying about the script and trying to get them to cater to your personal preferences is also really unprofessional.

NO LUKE
NO HAN
NO LEAH
THERE'S NOT EVEN A BAD GUY LEFT FOR THEM TO FIGHT
oh no no no

>and they were all boring as fuck. I don't give a fuck about Snoke or Ray or the Knights of Ren. I'm glad Rian torpedoed the whole thing.

Those are the ONLY THINGS IN THE STORY you unbelievable brainlet. Those are the only things that were set up. You cannot fucking tell anything unless it's about those fucking things because you cannot fucking introduce new things in the fucking LAST movie of a fucking trilogy!

>so JJ would have to actually do something new and original in his hack career

You don't read so good, huh?

The devil is in the details.
There are plenty of in character reasons Luke could have cut himself off from the galaxy. Maybe he felt like the Jedi needed a period of separation to avoid the issues of politics.
Maybe he felt he needed time to get the Jedi up and running before they started to involve themselves again
Maybe he was searching for or meditating on ancient wisdom
Maybe the betrayal pissed him off so much that he felt he had to segregate himself to find peace, so he didn’t inadvertently create an even greater monster by killing snoke and kylo in anger.

Nearly ANYTHING would have been better than what we got.
I say nearly because I’m sure Rian and Kennedy had much worse ideas in the back burner

HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ORIGINAL IN THE LAST MOVIE OF A TRILOGY YOU FUCKING IDIOT. THE LAST MOVIE IS SUPPOSED TGO BE THE WRAP-UP. YOU CANNOT ADD NEW THINGS AT THE LAST STEÅ+0PWE4PEW¨ÅLEWF
FUJVCK YO0U DFRSG8YHU9RFDSP+9IFDJPIOFD

boy you got a rise out of me, jolly good

so fucking based, yes please

Go to bed, JJ. You need your rest before you reveal your misleading trailer for IX at Celebration.

While I admire rian for shitting all over JJ and his awful film-making. Destroying star wars as a way of doing so is a faustian bargain for disney.

>b-but JJ would have done it in a much better way!

Keep dreaming. You may not like what Rian did, but I guarantee JJ's version would have been much worse.

I will say I'm not completely okay with the way Luke's story was handled, but blaming it all on Rian and acting like JJ had something better planned, or planned at all, is just straight fucking delusion.

Is the ultimate subversion where you want to be surprised and aren't?

Well the whole character of Grievous was added in Revenge. Most people didn't watch the cartoon he first appeared in.

Rian literally made it impossible to write a Star Wars movie after The Last Jedi. There is not only nothing JJ can do, there nothing anyone can do. You could find the best writers in the world and have them work together 24/7 and they'd come up with nothing. No way to save the trilogy because Rian just ruined everything. It's over.

t. JJ shill

The only real retcon thats going to happen is Kylo was lying about Reys parents

Why do you cocksuckers always deflect to that faggot whenever someone points out how fucking awful TLJ was?
Do you get personally offended by the fact that people prefer to shit on it?
Do you live in the delusion that the man who was perfectly happy to throw out JJ’s mystery boxes and set fire to the setting had no power to fix or flat out ignore the mistakes of TFA?

Everything about the old republic time period is more interesting than the movies. Maybe normies wouldn't know or care to see something set so far in the storys past, but the starwarsfags have to be able to single handedly carry such a film, right?

Grievous is fucking irrelevant. The Revenge was all about finishing what was set up in Attack of the Clones.

What the fuck did Rian set up? Kylo and Rey teaming up? Against who? The comedy show jackass Hux? And he even ruined that by not ending the movie at the moment when Kylo extends his hand.

And the spin proceeds apace.

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TLJ was already a retconning of TFA. Why the fuck would Luke wear Jedi robes if he had grown to despise the jedi. It's almost like Disney didn't know they needed an overarching story for their trilogy.

>Rey becomes so powerful she can raise the dead but the catch is it raises her enemies as well
>The power takes so much force power that it depletes her and she slips into a coma
>Wakes up has amnesia and the movie continues in a jason bourne style story

Jabba the Hutt
Ewoks
Endor
Death Star 2
Sheev
Force Lighting
Rancors
Twileks
MC80 Mon Calamari Cruisers
Venator's
Providence Class Invisible Hand
Phase 2 Clones
ARC-170's
Order 66
Darth Plagueus
Utapau
Kashyyyk
Mustafar
General Grevous
Magnagaurds
Commander Cody

Lucas's special editions were shit tho. That's retconnfagging a bit.

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You don't get it.
The story is, after Rian, impossible to fix. For anyone.
It was never good. JJ is a hack. But JJ did what he was supposed to, set up things. Rian did the opposite of what he was supposed to, he killed all plot threads when he was supposed to continue them so that they can all be wrapped up in the last movie.

You know a really untapped period in Star Wars? The New Sith Wars. Fucking 1000 years of constant war and it's barely explored aside from the final conflict where Bane comes in.

>Lucas never backpedaled on his ideas if they were unpopular
>implying implications

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Rian and JJ are both happy with the trilogy so far, I don't know what delusions you told yourself but they aren't working against each other and JJ won't in IX.

If you are going to blame someone, blame everyone kek

Fuck off JJ.

Delusional. JJ said he came to the same answer about Rey's parents as Rian did. If you know anything about writing, it was clear from TFA Rey's parents weren't going to be important for her story. Maz says as much.

Based and KOTOR pilled

Grow a spine and stand with your points or fuck off, you worthless faggot.

He was wearing those robes because he was going to kill himself or something and then Rey shows up.

>we'll never get the planned evil jarjar reveal
>inb4 reddit
jar jar was the phantom menace acting goofy as a dark twist on what yoda was doing to luke and you cant tell me otherwise

All of those are either completely irrelevant to the story or were set up MUCH earlier (palpatine).
Fucking look at the state of the NuWars trilogy. They don't have any heroes anyone gives a shit about, and those don't even have a villain to fight against. It is so fucking stupid. The fucking story is idiotic and it's broken.

Kylo and Reylo are the story of the trilogy thanks for noticing. The point is them joining together to save the galaxy with Love and Balance the Force. That's why Rian did exactly what he was supposed to by setting up their bond and the idea that they should be together because it's what the Force wants.

The fucking Force theme literally plays when they touch hands how obtuse are you?

>Those are the only things that were set up
yeah, and they all sucked. idgaf about this garbage trilogy. just end it already.

They’re giving serious consideration to canonizing the old EU from what I understand.
Having a “light” and “dark” universe, each one corresponding to an aspect of the force, would allow for increased merch options and possibly bring back some of the disillusioned fans.
All this is coming from someone pretty far down the totem pole at Disney tho.

t. JJ

Oh I'm not saying that at all, both are hacks.
Though I loved Brick when it first came out

>Fuck off JJ.
That's all you can say because you know I'm right. Rian killed Star Wars.

>If you know anything about writing, it was clear from TFA Rey's parents weren't going to be important for her story
Fucking retard. The mystery of Rey's parents was literally the only story thread set up for her. Without it her whole character is nonexistent.

I’m not going to presume to speak for everyone, but I fucking despise TLJ. But retconning it after they spent an entire year calling anyone who didn’t like it an alt-right incel manbaby just makes them look like a bunch of shit-sucking weasels paying off journalists and critics alike, just to turn around and backhandedly admit(fucking FINALLY) that they put the keys to the kingdom in the hands of visionless, talentless retards.

Fuck them. I don’t give a single wet shit what they do at this point. You couldn’t *pay* me to watch their shit.

it's muh diverse cast vs le evil white supremacists with aliens in the background

>Having a “light” and “dark” universe
Fuck that shit. We don't need alternate dimensions in fucking Star Wars. And fuck Rebels from bringing up time travel. These two plot elements are extremely easy to fuck up.

Rian has some writing talent, JJ has none. The only interesting thing about TFA was Kylo/Rey/Luke so Rian actually did a good job of focusing mainly on that. It's not his fault JJ introduced shitty nothing characters like Finn and Poe. Rose is unironically a better character than both of them combined.

>Rian and JJ are both happy with the trilogy so far

Jesus christ how deluded can you be, holy shit. JJ would kill Rian if he thought he'd get away with it, and Rian was intentionally sabotaging JJ's work.

>implying they are going to retcon a movie they just fucking made
kek 0% chance, nobody remembers what happened anyway, you could do whatever you want with the final movie and the audience will just smile and clap

>Rey's parents

Based retard didn't even pay attention to the story. Rey's belonging was set up, not her parents. Maz literally tells her her parents aren't important and aren't coming back. JJ literally said she will find her belonging, just not the way she thinks in the commentaries. He said she thinks she will only find belonging through her parents. Clearly it was set up for her to be wrong which is exactly what TLJ did. Rey's belonging isn't with her parents. It's not behind her, it is head. Exactly the words Maz tells her.

She immediately runs into Kylo Ren after that and Maz tells Finn that Rey is "exactly where she needs to be."

Rey's story is to belong with Kylo Ren to balance the Force. There, I spoiled IX for you. Dumbass.

>JJ would kill Rian if he thought he'd get away with it, and Rian was intentionally sabotaging JJ's work.
JJ didn't have any work. He just copy/pasta'd older movies and diversified it.

>fanboy delusions

Luke wakes up in bed with Suzy

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Fuck I hope they do this. The thing I was most mad about was the old EU being erased to be honest. I'm a PT patrician, so stuff like Republic Commando, KOTOR 2, Battlefront 2 etc being erased, as well as the good OT stuff like Jedi Outcast really fucking pissed me off. If they were to bring it back into official canon, let authors, directors and game devs continue to make stuff for the original timeline, while keeping all Disney ST trash and Rey shit in the separate new timeline. I'd unironically be okay with it. They already have two canons anyways, it's just that Legends is "discontinued" at the moment meaning nothing new being added, they just need to open it back up. I am guessing they will wait till 9 is out, so that they don't have two competing universes. But they will do it afterwards as a gesture to bring back fans. Capeshitters already have multiple universes for their capeshit heroes, so it's not far out that Disney would try a multiverse thing with Star Wars.

Just as long as I get my original canon back, and the possibilities of a KOTOR 3 and the original Battlefront 3 being made again, and I can disregard Rey as non canon to the original Lucas timeline, I will be happy.

>implying he’ll shit where he eats and where he’ll eat for the next decade sine he has his own SW trilogy coming up

no he didn't. he exposed all the flaws set up by JJ. the trilogy was dead from the start.

>Rian has some writing talent
Impressive. Most impressive. Now remember that of his “writing” credits, the only one that’s truly solid is Brick, and it’s essentially a retread of a Dashiell Hammett story set in a high school. Looper is garbage sci-fi that suffers pretty much all the same problems his TLJ script does - it breaks the conventions of its own setting. The people who can get away with such things are the people doing it with purpose and consummate skill. We call those guys geniuses. Johnson is no one’s idea of a genius.

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>opening plays out
>cuts to Adam Sandler with a control remote in his hands
"woa, this was really shitty. "

>I got you babe starts playing
>Bill Murray wakes up in a bed

Anything less than "it was all a dream" won't fix it

>Episode 9 starts
>Rey is back in the prison cell on Starkiller Base getting interrogated by Kylo Ren
>all the events since then were an illusion he created with the force Inception-style so she would unwittingly reveal the location of Luke

Lmao I doubt they would do that though

I said he has "some" writing and directing talent based off of his work in TLJ. The Kylo/Rey/Luke parts were kino if you ignore Luke's character before the ST.

I'm not saying the whole movie was good. The whole of TFA wasn't good either. The only consistent or good thing about these movies is Kylo Ren and his bond with Rey. Everything else is shit but honestly they aren't the main plot. The movies would be so much better if they stopped wasting so much time on irrelevant side characters to fulfill their diversity quotas.

>ignore everything that happened in the film you made a supposed sequel to
>"yeah if they want to retcon my film that's alright"
christ

So this is basically "proof" that disney is going to retcon ep8 and this is their way of responding any possible backlash before it happens, right?

>Terrio is the only reason IX might have a halfway-decent ending
Don't count on it. He was also involved with BvS and Justice League, both of which sucked ass. Granted, he succeeded with Argo years ago, but that was a fluke.
Episode IX's still gonna be weighed down by Abram's incompetence as a co-writer & Lucasfilm's ineptitude at doing anything halfway decent ever again.

Kino

>Retcon an entire third of your trilogy after actively insulting fans who pointed out how shit it was

If that was his point then he needed to fucking end the movie at that moment you cockgobbler. Not have them continue to fight each other for like a fucking hour after what should have been the cliffhanger ending. And that idea is fucking shit anyway because this new Kylo-Rey alliance has NO ONE TO FIGHT. What the fuck do you do with a morally gray jedi-sith combine when there is no enemy left except generic jobbers? It doesn't work. Nothing in TLJ works.

>star wars music starts
>Boyega wakes up from a dream with Kylo Ren cutting off his legs in that scene during the end of TFA

Did you read the rest of his post? What are they supposed to team up against, Hux? Snoke? There's no villain left that makes the story work if they team up.

If that was the point why didn't Rey join him in TLJ? Because the writing was retarded and Kylo wanted to murder all her friends for no reason even if she joined him. She didn't join him then just so they can have her do it in IX as a rehash of Luke turning Vader, and this time he will be a much nicer guy who doesn't want to kill of her friends because it's the last movie of the empty fucking trilogy that they rushed through with no thought just to make their billions.

It doesn't matter if that's the point of the movie, everything surrounding it is garbage.

>LAHLAHLAH IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY
What's with all the delusional faggots these days?

Another guy here, but think about how karmically tone-deaf that ending is. Kyle Ren, the guy who:

>Murdered a helpless old man in anger
>Ordered an entire settlement purged
>Stood idly by while billions, possibly trillions, were killed
>Killed his own father in cold blood

Isn’t even going to get the poetic justice of a sacrificial redemption. He’s not only going to live, he’s going to get “happily ever after.” This trilogy was written by psychopaths with no internalized sense of right and wrong, no sense of justice, no moral compass.

Jesus christ that's stupid, though I'd take it over the doubling down then blaming the audience that will actually happen.

Those were all additions. Nothing was ever removed. And meme about the special editions all you want but a lot of those changes were fucking great, like changing the consoles in the death star from english to aurabesh, or making the falcon flying through space scenes not look like complete shit.
Critics and fans wanted his head. Jar Jar was still important to the universe even being a senator for Naboo and an influence on the Senate for voting Palpy into power. He also survives beyond ROTJ

>The Kylo/Rey/Luke parts were kino if you ignore Luke's character before the ST.
and if you ignore Rey's character

>The Kylo/Rey/Luke parts were kino if you ignore Luke's character before the ST.
It started out fine when they were just talking but then shit all over itself at the end. He showed her how vulnerable he was and how Luke was responsible for her problems, just the perfect nice guy with a hard life. Then suddenly he wants to be a bloodthirsty supreme ruler and kill everyone she loves just so she has a reason to decline his offer because they still needed a plot for the final movie because they killed all their villains. Like everything else in the movie it doesnt hold up to scrutiny at all

>he exposed all the flaws set up by JJ
His job was not to expose what a shit movie TFA was, his job was to make a bridging middle movie between two JJ movies. He did the exact opposite of what he was hired to do.

There's a big problem with all these "just redo it" plans: Carrie Fisher is dead.
Still, I think they HAVE to delete most of Rian's movie from the continuity at least because there's just literally no story to tell otherwise.

how Luke was responsible for his* problems

The damage is already done. Retconning won't save anything at this point, too much time has been lost.

>The simple thing to do is have Luke come back from becoming one with the force and act like the real Luke
Not gonna happen, Mark Hamill was only filming for 9 over a couple of days and has continued to throw shade at Disney. He's a force ghost cameo.

This too is correct. Kylo is so evil at this point that he doesn't deserve a happy ending, he needs to be Vadered (die in the process of killing a bigger, worse bad guy). Problem is, the only "bigger, worse bad guy" we had was Snoke, and Rian just wasted him. So what do you do? Resurrect Snoke? Hacky as fuck. Introduce a last-minute even bigger Snoke? Fuck off with that. There's just no good options. The story is broken.

>>One where they let a woman command the fleet.
One where they let a woman produce Star Wars films.

So, has jj been filming episode 8 reboot this whole time or what? How you gonna release star wars out of chroological order this fast if it ain't this?

except it was Snoke

>>sudden prequel Kino again
You know Disney would fuck it up. Better to let them think no one likes them.

Ben still blames and resents Luke for trying to kill him, he says as much in their fight.

GIVE BACK THE RIGHTS

Considering TFA and TLJ were retcons of course he's gonna say that. I don't care anymore. These movies are 100 percent gay and ugly.

They'll make a bunch of crap for Disney+ where no one can see the viewing numbers. Better to keep it behind the curtain than risk another Solo.

Fucking kek.

>cue Ryan Reynolds: You’re welcome, Star Wars fans!

Even if they retconned and redid everything perfectly (let's just assume Fisher's death was staged or some shit), would people really just forget and forgive being called nazis and manbabies and a hundred other names for more than year because they didn't like a shit movie?
Forget the difficulty of making a good episode 9, repairing the lost goodwill is a whole second problem that may be just as big.

Disney already changed their stance on the prequels when they brought back the next Clone Wars episodes that they cancelled in the first place.

why is star wars so awful now...Its like some Chinese state WW2 propaganda level at this point. Why did disney think the fans hated the prequels when it was just out of touch gen x who never even went to see TFA, Why didn't disney cater to the core audience who liked the prequels and none of that fantasy unexplained shit from the OT.

It's not their baby like it was Lucas'. Why would they bust their ass to make a good movie that makes 1.2 billion dollars when shitty rehashes and insulting slopfests can make 1.1 billion dollars with much less effort?

>There's a big problem with all these "just redo it" plans: Carrie Fisher is dead.
That's more of a problem with continuing from where we left off than retconning Ep.8, since Leia was still alive and set to be a major character.

She's going to have to die off-screen either way.

GEORGED

>Its like some Chinese state propaganda level at this point
well Hollywood need money for cocaine and little kids. The money has to come from somewhere. Everybody wins

I'm the biggest star wars shill. But even I will admit TFA and TLJ suck ass. TFA I would say sucks even more. TLJ was so awful to watch it was good, TFA set the foundation for what killed star wars imo i dont blame rian he was given a shit back story by JJ. Maybe he ruined star wars on purpose for us Millennials.

>jar jar was the phantom menace acting goofy as a dark twist on what yoda was doing to luke and you cant tell me otherwise
JarJar was marketed specifically towards children as a cute, humorous character in the promotion and the merchandise for The Phantom Menace. Lucas knew how to market his films, he wasn't dumb enough to turn him into some Sidious-tier sith halfway through the PT.

They were never that great. It was an amazing amount of originality and imagination then it petered off in return of the jedi with unoriginal death star 2 and the savage ewoks. It's been on a decline since just rehashing pottery after pottery.

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Ford will never do another SW movie ever again. Let it go.

put a woman to take care of a group of diverse dykes, faggots, betas and catladies and the collective wisdom of this group cannot understand that a trilogy is about three fucking movies that gotta make sense together.

its impressive how dumb and irresponsible, because were talking about a franchise that cost and could make or lose billions of dollars and there was not even a fucking idea to were they would end.

forgot JEW JEW being JEW JEW: "look at those things, theyre mysterious! no i have no idea how to come up with a conclusion."

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Mark's praise of the TLJ is insignificant compared to his widely documented loathing for the movie.

>Wanting DisnEA to make KOTOR 3 and fuck up everything
This timeline is preferable.

ROTJ still had cool things like Luke's character. He was a generic hero for the first two movies but was a much more interesting Jedi Knight in RotJ with his new outfit and using Dark Side force choke on the Gamorrean guards, culminating in the great Throne Room scene which is the perfect ending for all 3 movies in the OT

It was more that Ford knew Han wasn't the lead in the OT and never would be. That's also the reason he loves playing Indiana Jones so much.

The prequels I can say for sure had the audiences engaged with the music the fights and space battles sure if you examined the story 100% after rewatching it like 5 times its cringe but it was still awesome. While when I watched TLJ in theaters people would just walk out in theaters from how awful it was.

>its impressive how dumb and irresponsible, because were talking about a franchise that cost and could make or lose billions of dollars and there was not even a fucking idea to were they would end.

They literally thought that the movies themselves didn't matter, just the fact that they had the Star Wars name attached. Like they could shit out something awful and as long as it's named Star Wars, people will love it.

To be fair to them, Star Wars fans had been the most uncritical fanbase in the world before TLJ, but I guess there's a limit for everything.

I was always hoping solo survived and gets to reunite with lando, chewie, leia, r2 and threepio and luke in episode 8 one last time. The original cast could have done most of 8 themselves with rey and finn and not that asian goblin. Seems like a safe approach that disney would go for.

Instead they close the movie out with this unknown little faggot

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The silver lining is that JJ can't use his Palpatine-Clone or the throne room scene in 9. There will be a Sarlacc, not-Jabba and Nu-Endor though.

I shilled for TFA despite its flaws I thought in the back of my mind it couldn't get worst. Then the TLJ happened and Solo was the star that broke the camels back.

I enjoyed TFA until the Falcon shows up on Jakku instead of being in a New Republic museum or something, at that point you knew the worldbuilding was shot to shit. Even then I enjoyed Han's death scene and thought the lightsaber fight was great as long as we got a proper explanation of Rey's powers later on.

>making use of the story Rian set up for him
My fucking sides!

>sure if you examined the story 100% after rewatching it like 5 times its cringe

No, you'd find it's absolutely fucking based and better than the OT.

OT is surface level good, but the more you think about it, the more retarded it is, and the more flaws it has. The PT is surface level cringe/stilted, but it's actually deep, and the more you think about it the more based and kino it is.

I don't even think anyone is gonna watch 9 they burned too many bridges with casual fans with the bait and switch they did with Luke. Unless the trailer contains spoilers people will not watch because they wont want to get tricked a third time.

No I want Chris Avellone to make it. Where did I imply I wanted a fucking film studio with no games division to develop a video game?

And EA can get fucked. They will loose the license in a few years anyways.

when they come up with the whole "three directors" i was already imagining that would be shit.

the original trilogy was like that but there was lucas working like the showrunner of the whole thing.

here there was nobody.

ironically, rian was the most promissing of the three directors and did the worst film. to be fair, i think he was a good bitch and took the bullet from a story that was no his alone.

i cannot imagine this guy doing that all by himself, i think there was a skeleton of a script that was done by those nigger dykes and he had to dance around that.

im not even a fan of this, i didnt watch the originals, but it is insane that they were not able to put luke, han and leia on the same scene, together, interacting with each other.

why even get these people if the intention was to use them like that?

Star wars is seen as a stepping stone for Daisy and Boyega. Little do they know that sci fi is a dead end genre unless you try exceptionally hard to break typecasting and stigma

I don't know how you think this would ever happen.

so did SJW forget about star wars? I only see fans talking about how awful it is now while they seemed to abandon the franchise as a whole.

It was suspicious to me how the writer for TFA Michael Arndt was just let go months before the movie was out and then Lord and Miller and Trevorrow had the same thing happen to them, when I heard it was because of creative differences it was pretty obvious they told KK that this shit was fucking awful and needed to be reworked and got shown the door.

Why hasn't Disney given Rian the boot yet?

They're busy rubbing it into people's faces that Captain Marvel made a billion, theyll be back in a week to focus on Star Wars.

It was going to happen. Avellone said he was in contact with Disney (IIRC, Can't remember if he was still at Obsidian at the time) to make KOTOR 3, but then they gave the license to EA instead, and EA killed it because it would compete with their shitty TOR turd.

Avellone wants to do it. If the original canon returns, and once EA's license runs out, there is nothing stopping individual devs from purchasing a license and making a Star Wars game.

no way it made a billion. I suspect money laundering or some kinda shit where disney forces companies to buy tickets for empty seats and disnet gets them half the money in exchance disney movies get more screen time.

Remember when the urchins played with their action figures, recreating the fight between Luke and Kylo they weren't there for. Also the fight only happened a couple of minutes earlier on the other side of the galaxy with only 10 rebels actually seeing it happen. Inspiring.

Rey's introduction is pretty kino. Then she meets Finn and it's like a switch was hit and things went full retard.

and anakin was a child in episode 1 specificlly marketed to kids as a kid doing cool shit, then halfway through the PT turns into a murdering psycho. get out with your plebian brain

I got chills when Kylo sensed something was wrong with Finn at the village and turned to stare at him because it was setting up both of them being good guys. Great moment and made me think JJ actually had this shit figured out

>uh, about the new star wars trilogy, shouldn't we plan an overarching story ahead of time?
>THIS IS STAR WARS, PEOPLE WILL BUY TICKETS NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. JUST FUCKING WING IT.

>Always two their are, a master and an apprentice

So was Yoda wrong when he said this at the end of TPM?

What happened to Finn anyway hes like a joke character and then the random love thing with the ugly ape gook outta nowhere? What was up with that?

>Opening scene of episode 9
>The Exile wakes up from the crazy dream he had about 4000 years in the future
>Rolls over in bed and fucks handmaiden once more

considering the jedi are wrong about fucking everything in the PT and thats the point. yes

I don't doubt it made a billion because it came out at the perfect time, the first big release of the year after the January and February trash months. SJWs took the Rotten Tomatoes score being bombed by people who thought the trailer looked like shit so the box office was a huge victory for them, cant believe that they're all over Yea Forums now as well

I was hyped for TFA even though it was a shallow retelling of ANH. I actually believed JJ when he said he needed to do it to 'reintroduce Star Wars to a new generation', and that Episode 8 and 9 would take a more imaginative and expansive path that would really define the sequel trilogy as unique.

I was fucking stupid.

>buy 4 billion dollar ip
>throw out 40 years of lore just because and make shit up as you go along

everyone involved should be fired and forced to work a minimum wage slave shit job for the rest of their lives. the fact that these people can literally screw up this much and still have a ton of money and connections is shit that keeps me up at night

>opening scene from Ep 9
>Kyle Katarn wakes up in a cold sweat next to Jan Ors
>"Jan I just had a horrible vision of the future, contact those rebels and tell them I'll take that mission to steal those death star plans afterall"

based kumiko poster

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Rian wanted Rose in the movie because he wanted a character that looked like they didnt belong in Star Wars and she reminded him of a high school crush. Poor Finn got stuck with her in the process because apparently him going on a journey with Poe was too boring but the save the animals shit with Rose was vintage Star Wars to Rian's script

It's not like Sheev took on Dooku right after Maul got killed (and I don't give a shit about them retconning him back). I mean, why would the Sith of all people actually stick to the rules?

>needed to rehash ANH to reintroduce Star Wars to a new generation
That was such BS. Yet I still see people repeating that shit.

>more imaginative and expansive path that would really define the sequel trilogy as unique.

Well it's certainly unique alright.
But sometimes being unique just means being worse than the rest.

Having the EU distinct from Disneys 'canon' is preferable. Make it easier to find good Star Wars content instead of SJW filled garbage.

IIRC he sought out Dooku pretty quickly afterwards. It wasn't literally immediately, but he had Dooku as his apprentice within a few months. Also a Sith created the rules.

>the one movie fans were excited about
>let's cancel it lol
Goddammit Disney

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It's the worst. The OT and Star Wars is what it is because you can enjoy Episode 4 with each new generation and they'd probably love it. Thinking it needed to be remade is pure fucking sacrilege.

it was more "interesting" to Rian

its corporate marketing speak. if they wanted to "reintroduce" star wars they shouldnt have closed Lucasarts and focused on video games because thats what the young kids are after

It would still be two canons like it is now, it just means the good canon is no longer discontinued and vidya devs and book authors can start contributing to it again.

sith can have as many acolytes they want but only one apprentice according to the rule of two set forth by revan and made reality by bane the big

Of course he's ok with it. He knows he's shit. that's why he makes shit for shitty people.

I agree. The OT is a self contained 3 part story that also had the capability of being added to at both ends. I think the problem with the PT was that he waited too long to make them. Also it felt like he went back too far in time for Anakin therefore he had to rush a story of a main character's whole life into three movies. They felt both rushed and forced full of too much minutiae to make sense of . The ST is looking like complete shit so far and it, similar to the PT, was made too far after ROTJ. All the original actors are too old or dead, and they gave them the worst possible wrap up stories to finish their legacy. I'll just be a happy boomer-x and pretend nothing was ever made in the franchise other than the original untouched Star Wars trilogy.

Nice analogy faggot

Damn that figure looks good. What's it from?

Even mainstream star wars related youtube channels still talk more about about the old Lore than nulore

>It's almost like Disney didn't know they needed an overarching story for their trilogy.
There's no way Disney could actually be this stupid. What I presume happen is that they assumed anything SW would be a slam dunk, put KK in charge of everything, and then she put a bunch of commie douches at Lucasfilm in actual charge. She probably figured they would come up with an overarching story, but was too busy self-promoting and socializing to actually provide any substantial leadership to the production of the ST.

still can't believe how they fucked up Solo

Good i dont need them to ruin obi wan by showing him on a adventure with a sassy black womyn who need no jedi man

JJs a decent director but why the fuck is he allowed anywhere near the screenwriting?

Based sub 80 IQ mongoloid

Episode IX: lol ok but for real this time tho

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The rule of two is really just a guideline on how to avoid having two Sith gang up on you

>believing glorified Disney newsletters
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>JJ is directing so it's a soft-reboot of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

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cute little piggieeeeee!
daww piggy pigg pig daww

why do mystery boxes trigger you so much

>implying the EU is all good

Probably Sideshow Collectibles

Usually when writing a mystery, it helps to know the answer to said mystery instead of just making shit up on the fly.

>kyle and jan
so fucking mad they turned them into autistic no emotion retards in jyn and cassian when they were tailor fucking made for a marvel tier adventure filled with quips
>tfw no jan/kyle buddy cop kino

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Sturgeon's Law applies to everything, contrarian. Except for nuwars, which is in fact 100% shit.

So wouldn't that just be IIX, but again.

so whats going on with star wars merch anyways? I always see star wars toys not selling even old TFA stuff. did even children abondon star wars after TFA.

top kek based and redpilled

There are literally quotes from bith JewX2 and writers that there was an outline for the Disney trilogy and that Rian decided to toss everything. It's all on KK because she's to retarded to control her own production.

I'm not denying the EU is good, I'm denying it's all good. There is a lot of stupid shit in there.

Force Awakens was better than Last Faggot, though.

JJ is a hack so this won't be happening, but I could imagine an Episode IX that works as a sort of anti-Revenge of the Sith. The plot goes--
The First Order has won; they're now the dominant force in the known galaxy. Unfortunately, Ben Solo is in charge, and he's an idiot. That is to say, he's in charge because he's the tough guy with the magic powers, but he has no administrative capability, so the First Order is now collapsing under its own weight. Hux knows that only one person can oppose Ben directly: his plan is to get Rey to assassinate Ben, and try to turn her into someone that he can control. So most of the story follows the unlikely alliance of Rey and Hux, as he tries to play up his own fabricated redemption story and preemptively mold her into a proper leader (and someone who would need his counsel).
They use Hux's credentials to get close to Ben, which leads to the final confrontation between Ben and Rey, where she succeeds at getting through to him about how everything's gone so awry, even relative to his own ambitions. She succeeds at convincing him to stand aside, and further, that there is no proper successor--the only way out of this is to bring democracy back.
I know it needs some iterating, but I think any proper conclusion has to begin from the idea that the rebellion is over.

You're making s non-argumrnt, a post for the sake of posting. Nobody even implied let alone said that the bad parts of the EU should be used.

>Good planning, Disney.
Its mind blowingly stupid considering we have had like 30 fucking Marvel movies all building up to End game, now they have x-men and F4 and they had plans in case that happened for years from some of the internal rumors.

Kylo and Phasma are the only toy designs that would sell, one is a dead joke, the other hasn't changed in five years.

Remember when "Snoke's personal shuttle" was a throwaway line used by Rian to have Rey show up in the Falcon? In the prequels we would have actually seen her take the new design of the shuttle so they could sell a toy off it. These movies are just pure laziness with not even any attempt at creativity.

I hope you can provide evidence to back up your claim. We all know Kira (Rey) was to meet a recluse Luke in Georges scripts that Disney threw in the fire. It's also obvious Lucas' take was wildly different from Disneys.

i don't care what they do as long as it frees up JJ to work on the project we all want

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It's a mistery why things developed the way they did, a real conundrum if you will

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>The First Order has won
But we just watched them lose. Nice try, though. Thanks for playing!

What, because part of their fleet was damaged and an old guy was whacked?

What's worse, they just spent an entire movie turning the only viable candidate for a Bigger Bad, Hux, into a slapstick laughingstock. Beyond even that, his one real character moment in TLJ was shoeing mercy to his chief rival.

In short, they have deeply, thoroughly fucked themselves.

>Rian and JJ are both happy with the trilogy so far
JJ at least is putting on his PR face, just like Disney and Iger are when they say TLJ was fine. They need to consider their investors and mergers, so have to bullshit to the public. I thought this was common knowledge.

The more I think about it, the madder I am that Rey didn't join the dark side when Ben offered it.

>J.J. Abrams wrote scripts for all Star Wars Sequel Trilogy installments, according to Daisy Ridley.
denofgeek.com/us/movies/star-wars/271448/star-wars-rian-johnson-scrapped-jj-abrams-episode-viii-script

OH NO NO NO NO

Lucas had his Kylo character rescue a Twi'lek from thugs at a bar and banging her before it was revealed she was a Sith trying to turn him. Sounds boring though, how about we do the Emperor again and put him in a gold robe?

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Everyone knew Anakin would turn into Vader going into the PT. Retard.

>They literally thought that the movies themselves didn't matter, just the fact that they had the Star Wars name attached. Like they could shit out something awful and as long as it's named Star Wars, people will love it.

Not without reason. It's been working with Marvel. Come at me, fanboys.

I have a lots of young nephews (5-10 years old) and none of them gives a single fuck about Nu-Wars films, cartoons or toys. They're all about superheroes and Transformers mostly. Local toy stores in my middle size-ish euro city can't move SW toys for shit.

it also forces the sith to learn everything they can instead of specializing in one thing since they are the last remaining heirs of the knowledge. sheev took that to heart and he actually won

>considering the jedi are wrong about fucking everything in the PT and thats the point. yes
Based and rian-pilled

and that makes it so you cant turn jar jar evil how?

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Marvel has decades of comic books fully ready to use and make some new original additions to like Winter Soldier. The Thanos story has been around since the 1990s. Star Wars only had fan created books to take stuff from.

Marvel movies are boring and formulaic if you're a cinephile, yes, but at least they're finely crafted products for mass consuption. Plus in their core they're archetypal hero stories about the triumph of persistance, virtue and empathy.

TFA isn't formulaic, it's just a carbon copy with very poor characterisation, and TLJ is a poorly made deconstruction which leaves a bad taste in mouth with its aggressive cynicism and postmodern moral relativity.

>So was Yoda wrong when he said this at the end of TPM?
Yoda was canonically 100% wrong in the OT. He outright said once someone falls to the Dark Side they can't turn back. Even Obi-Wan declared the Emperor victorious when Luke said he wouldn't kill his father.

No TFA it's worse

The biggest problem is TFA if you retcon TLJ you don't fix the setting

>kyle katarn intensifies

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breaking free of chains is the main theme of star wars. luke was just quicker at it than anakin. he called bullshit on the jedis bullshit and while he still lost to vader, he learned the truth that they were keeping from him. thus leading to the redemption of vader and the jedi orders ways being btfo for the nth time.

jedi fuck up everything

>Having a “light” and “dark” universe
Normies would have no idea what the fuck is going on

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