Is /ourguy/ right about Harry Potter?

The Lord of the Rings came out in the 1950s. So your dad thinks Tolkien is what fucked up boomers?

He supported Alita waifu crap over Captain Kino so fuck that guy.

I’m just hanging out in this thread until someone posts the pasta

Attached: image.jpg (1024x862, 389K)

Yeah, it's the exact same criticism too. That they grew up to be nonambitious losers obsessed with a fantasy world that didn't exist.

this

>anyone who disagrees with me is mentally defective!
>anyone with a different opinion than me is mentally defective!
>anyone different is mentally defective!
>I'm not projecting at all!
>this all has something to with a children's book series!
Why dont people think before they speak? Why am I giving a low-effort OP the extra (you)? Fuck all this and fuck (you)

It seems to me we should apply Hanlon's Razor here, and not attribute to corrupting influence that which is adequately explained by being one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

Attached: bookshelf.jpg (1623x2886, 1.27M)

Is this retard talking about the people who said HP was satanic?

Kids who read fantasy growing up are always emotionally stunted retards as adults. By contrast young science fiction readers seem to me to always grow up to be thoughtful and intelligent human beings. I wonder why that is, it's essentially the same genre fiction pulp.

B&R

Attached: image.jpg (944x1636, 1.11M)

That doesn't make a lick of sense. Most boomers were hippies in their youth, and LOTR isn't pro-hippy in anyway. Hell, LOTR is full of old-fashioned Catholic values that the hippy movement rejected. Your dad should be bitching about Jack Kerouac instead of Tolkien.

Probably because one genre has more chosen one characters that just happen to be important for no reason while the other has either strong he men or genius strategists that get by on their merit.

Literally who
/thread
Hell /pol/ loves LOTR but it’s not like the rest of the fans are schizos too

Being mentally defective would actually be a blessing when you're having to slog through one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>LOTR isn't pro-hippy in anyway
????

I think it does make sense. It stems from an obsession with the unreal and an escape into a detailed fantasy world where things are black and white to escape from reality.

I like the second one

>Humans never compared to Sauron.
>Humans rarely compared to Darth Vader.
>Humans compared to Voldemort every night at 8 PM.

>LOTR isn't pro-hippy in anyway
Saruman's original sin before defecting to Sauron is wanting to build a factory and clear some trees.

you've clearly never read philip k dick

Okay, I misspoke. It's true that Tolkien hated industrialism and environmental pollution. However, that's the only major thing he had in common with the hippies. He disagreed with most of what the hippies preached.

ONLY IN THE ISLAMIC CALIPHATE OF BONGISTAN

Attached: 1550921592685.jpg (523x800, 134K)

>Humans never compared to Sauron.
What? Tolkien even had to go on record against people who said Sauron was literally Hitler/ Stalin/ some member of parliament back in the day.

>this guy actually has fans who take him seriously

Fuck... I read HP as a kid and didn't think of it as anything other than just another fantasy novel. Am i retarded as well?

Attached: 1554172329498.jpg (1280x720, 83K)

He was doing it to build an army that rivals Sauron’s, the message was environmentalist and not “hippy” or pacifist
Also the way Saruman ruined the Shire was more of a jab at communism/socialism than anything else

>Captain Marvel = Kino
Retard

If it didn't happen in the 21st century, it didn't happen at all

>He disagreed with most of what the hippies preached.
By that you mean Catholic shit. everything else was total hippie shit.

Incrasingly desperate attempt just as weak and unmemorable as the last. Literally btfo on a daily basis by any new meme. Spamming won't replace quality.

>environmentalism isn't a core theme of the hippy movement
Based retard

Unironically, really made made me think. Almost all of the mentally ill people I know were big "potterheads". Soccer Moms proven redpilled once again

Attached: gets the old noggin joggin.png (321x322, 162K)

I like LOTR but it's far from my whole life. I appreciate the books and films, that's it. Why do people buy the overpriced skymall one ring replicas and other bullshit?

>the hippy movement is exclusively about environmentalism
Retard is as retard does

If you look at it that way. However, I still believe it makes a lot more sense to bitch about the beatniks than Tolkien. Tolkien was just trying to entertain people with an old-fashioned story of good vs. evil, whereas the beatniks were basically telling young people to be obnoxious degenerates.

I read both and I'm a thoughtful and intelligent emotionally stunted retard

Yes

>Why do people buy the overpriced skymall one ring replicas and other bullshit?
>why do people learn Elvish
>why do people buy ridiculously expensive merch
At a certain point it’s dickwagging, like “I’m a bigger fan than you and this prices it”

>You know, Harry, with great magic comes great responsibility. JK Rowling called it "The wizard's burden." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the master to discipline the servant."
>Dumbledore looks directly at the camera.
>"The (((goblins))), the centaurs, the merfolk...It's our responsibility to civilize them. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from the whomping willow. The Day of the Rope is near, Harry. We'll have every non human in the wizarding world dead or in chains in 10 years, and may God have me thrown out the Astronomy Tower this very night if I'm wrong. God bless the British Nazi Party."

Attached: Harry and Dumbledore.jpg (782x524, 61K)

*proves it

>the anime watching sperg who fell for /pol/ memes has the sack to call other people mentally defective

Attached: 1446325098311.png (354x407, 114K)

It's is one of those children's book series where if you still like it in your 20's you are mentally defective.
It is less of a corrupting influence than a magnet for autism.

almost all good science fiction is written as a thought experiment and it challenges your biases and perceptions. fantasy by contrast has a siege mentality and is way more dogmatic.

JK was pretty based.

Attached: o3u29el7pfgy.jpg (1600x1202, 152K)

/pol/ doesn’t have self awareness
If they realize they’re wrong they will fall back to “it’s just bantz” or “I was pretending to be retarded”

caring about the environment doesn't make you a hippy. Hitler cared about the environment for fucks sake.

t. assblasted potterdrone

Has he found some way to blame it on the jews yet?

Most kids read harry potter. It's not some niche thing.

>By that you mean Catholic shit.
Well, yeah. Tolkien was a hardcore Catholic. He definitely hated the blatant hedonism of the hippy movement.
>everything else was total hippie shit.
Besides his environmentalism, how was Tolkien "total hippie shit"? The hippies believed in free love, whereas Tolkien didn't. The hippies were pacifists who wanted to end war, whereas Tolkien believed that war was sometimes necessary to fight evil. The hippies were feminists who wanted to tear down traditional gender norms, whereas Tolkien didn't believe in any of that bullshit.

Be patient with him, it’s his first day out of high school

fat unfunny mexican pedo

>hippies were feminists who wanted to tear down traditional gender norms, whereas Tolkien didn't believe in any of that bullshit.
Arwen and Eowyn fighting and defying their fathers m, Tolkien even got backlash for it from his Catholic and Protestants friends.

>/ourguy/

Attached: 1503977564122.jpg (707x682, 74K)

>/ourguy/
>Not Shadman

Attached: He for She.jpg (950x1344, 266K)

You gonna cry somebody dislikes your pathetic spam? Git gud and write something that isn't shit so I won't have to say this. Positive or negative about the franchise I don't care the fact that you immediately went defensive and assumes it comes from the position of some fanboy tells me how hurt you must be. Good.

Clean your axe wound and don't forget the 41%suicide rate.

DEH!

Nah, he and JK are on the same page in regards of the Goblin Question.

Totally right

Yeah but no picture

HP sucks and is written from a female perspective about heroics, power, struggle. It's for pussies and chicks.

Arwen fighting was only in the movie and I don’t think going against your father’s wishes to marry someone you love is necessarily defying traditional gender norms
Eowyn went to war but settled back down afterwards and submitted to Faramir later if I recall

Sonic the Hedgehog sexually crippled a large section of its fans

A woman fighting in a war and a woman defying her father is not against traditional gender roles? Kek, the cope is real.

Attached: jewish wizard.png (498x240, 18K)

There's a huge difference between Tolkien's "women aren't just submissive cattle who pump out kids" view and the shit that the hippies preached. Tolkien wanted women to have equal rights, whereas the hippies were encouraging women to be hedonistic whores.

Wait what happened with Sonic
I only recognize the character but never played the game

Most sci fi readers are smelly weirdos

Turned kids into furries.

No

Attached: IMG_1473.jpg (640x336, 58K)

He's right you know. All the LotR kids grew up based and redpilled while all HPfags I know are losers
cringe

so men can be hedonistic whores but women can't

t. has never been to /pol/ but heard scary stories

You’re really simplifying their motivations and the circumstances that led to those things happening
If that’s what you’re using to argue that Tolkien is a hippy, you probably think the original Star Wars trilogy is hippy too

I remember Goldstein. There are three blacks, one far east Asian and maybe those twins were really Indian? Those who know better say that their names sounded like that. The rest are whiteys or maybe it's just the "default" I have in my mind.

fuck of back to your tranny discord
*dabs*

PKD's stories are existentialist nightmares. They have very little in common with the pleasant escapism of the fantasy genre. No one reads a PKD story and thinks "I wish I could live in that world."

And most people who would have been in that age group are now mentally defective adults. What don't you get?

As far as I remember Tolkien resented the fact that hippies took LotR to heart because of the environmental and anti-industrialization message in it but also completely disregarded other conservative and catholic content.

Tolkien didn't want anyone to be a hedonistic whore. I repeat, he was a hardcore Catholic.

t. self-proclaimed “Meme War” veteran
Why don’t you go back and make another thread about skull shapes or something

Could have a point, I read and love Harry Potter and I'm basically retarded. I used to love Spongebob too, and I heard that it can have a negative impact on kids.

I'm a national socialist. Turns out Harry Potter had great influence on me.

yea, but that's because you were molested, not because of what you read while you were being molested.

>no Clifford for President

I read Harry Potter as a kid and the only thing that stopped me from becoming a zombie jew slave was this place. Thanks tv

Attached: 1qis0neu5gxz.jpg (2048x1664, 1.3M)

>extremists installing browser mods that passively radicalize them more during routine internet browsing
the internet in concert with low intelligence is fucking scary, jesus

Do you believe there is more than two gender, by any chance?

catholics just want people to feel guilty about being hedonistic whores and to relay all their salacious stories to their sexually repressed priests.

stay mad

Seething Protestant detected

all knowledge is scary when paired with low intelligence.

low yield nuclear weapons are pretty easy to make, and its apparently pretty easy to acquire uranium.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalsozialismus

>the papist thinks anyone who criticizes his worship of some random old man is a christcuck

This is the most kino image I saw here. Thanks Ben.

>most people are defective adults
Literally retarded NEET speak.

Look at the "March for Science." These people can't tell the difference between a children's book about wizards and the real world.

This discussion is about Tolkien, not your views on Catholicism. I suggest going to /pol/ if you want to screech about Catholicism and sexual repression.

>he can't go fast

>when a man loses the argument and tries to assert intellectual superiority

>when disregarding hyperbole is “losing the argument”
Outing oneself must be a sport on your board

>>when a man loses the argument
What argument? I was talking about Tolkien, and you tried to veer the conversation into a load of irrelevant bullshit. You can babble all day about how Catholics are sexually repressed, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that Tolkien opposed hedonism. Go to /pol/ if you're so desperate to argue about Catholicism.

equal rights for men and women would mean women have just as much right to be hedonists as men and receive the same levels of judgement. Catholicism is irrelevant to this, and idiotic.

gang

It was hippies that made Lotr hugely popular, smoking weed, very anti industrial and pro nature and environmental

prices it actually works well as a statement on consumerism...nerd

>LOTR
>conservative and catholic content

In what way?

>sonic isnt harmful
cwc is living proof it is

Have you seriously never heard all the millennials complaining about how hard "adulting" is? Those are all people who read Harry Potter. FACT!!!

OH NO NO NO

youtube.com/watch?v=LnVAguMh8bw

This is pure mental masturbation. None of this has anything to do with the fact that Tolkien's views on gender and sex were clearly different from what the hippies believed. Tolkien believed women should be treated equally in society. It could be argued that the hippies believed the same thing, but they also believed in free love, radical feminist theories, and other things that Tolkien strongly disagreed with. I'm not trying to make any point about hedonism or equal rights or Catholicism, I'm just saying it's silly to call Tolkien a hippy. Trying to argue Tolkien was a hippy because he agreed with them on a couple of issues is as stupid as arguing Hitler was a hippy because he was a vegetarian environmentalist.

makes sense

Attached: _if-youve-ever-said-youd-fight-in-dumbledores-army-if-7272169.png (500x544, 140K)

>Being this fucking retarded
I can't keep on reading your replies mate, you literally have the brain activity of an amoeba.

its a joke you twat

I read a lot of shitty pulp as a kid. Stuff like Conan and Raymond Feist. Difference is, now I'm an adult, I recognize that these are just dumb pulp, Hairy Pooper fans legitimately seem to think their shitty kids books are actual good literature. Idk what to attribute this to, I doubt it's the books themselves, but something has made these "people" functionally retarded as adults.

Yes. I read Harry Potter and love it and i am mentally defective.

Robert E. Howard's Conan stories are fun. Although you're right that they're pulp.

>i want equal rights for men and women but women are disgusting whores if they have multiple sexual partners

Free love is centered in the idea that a man who fucks a lot of bitches isn't considered a disgusting worthless subhuman beast, therefore why should a woman be considered the same?

Ummmm, wow why are you using that antisemitic orange monster on 4channel when this is a SFW board? It's a little troubling.

I read HP as a kid and now I'm browsing Yea Forums so I guess it's true

>That drooling retard that claims LOTR was a hippie book
Few things
>Tolkien published LOTR in 1955, ten years before there was even a hint of hippie ideology
>Environmentalism didn't become a mainstream movement until the 1970s
>LOTR is NOT a metaphor on society whatsoever by dent of the fact that Tolkien was not a total post modernist jerkass. It's a mythological saga. That's it.
I have never in my life heard something as dumb as what you have been saying in this thread. It is so dumb and representative of a narrow world view that I can not fathom how you can be a breathing, walking human being like the rest of us. You are an insult to 2000 of critical thinking, let alone 200 000 years of conceptual thought. Every place you go gets tainted by the sheer stupidity of what you call your occipital lobe by the mere presence of someone that desperately dumb as you are. I hope you slip on your drool and get put in a baby chair for the rest of your life, you revisionist cunt.

Free love is centered in the idea that everyone should be free to fuck around without feeling any sort of shame, and Tolkien adamantly disagreed with this idea. This highlights that it's dumb to call Tolkien a hippy. You can argue that Tolkien would agree "a female whore shouldn't be treated any different than a male whore," but you can't argue he supported free love. Free love is pure hedonism, and Tolkien hated hedonism. That's it, that's my entire argument. Now stop calling him a hippy.

So you just proved him right.....

>Free love is centered in the idea that everyone should be free to fuck around without feeling any sort of shame
Yep, that's what I said at

when the fuck did anyone call tolkien a hippy.

>proving him right

Alright, I guess this argument is finally over.
See:

>These people can't tell the difference between a children's book about wizards and the real world.
>These people
this is what you guys aren't understanding. There is no "these people"
HP was a MASSIVE thing. Everyone read the books or saw the movies, probably both. Are there mentally defective people who grew up reading the books? yea. Are there successful and productive people who grew up reading the books? yea. HP is a confounding factor and correlation does not equal causation, you absolute brainlets.

Attached: 1523166309258.png (817x443, 34K)

>environmentalism, hippie-thinking, and postmodern-thinking literally didn't exist before they were seized upon for exploitation by the popular media
kys you massive retard

so he was a hippy, and all that's changed is the definition of hippy.

who is the bigger redditor, this guy or pewdiepie?

then where are all the 'hillary = voldemort' memes? if the appeal was so broad and universal?

Attached: images.jpg (225x225, 10K)

Not that user, but LOTR isn't postmodernist. Anyone who thinks so is willfully ignoring the fact that Tolkien stated numerous times that LOTR is just a myth cycle.

the people who give a shit about ecelebs would be the biggest redditors. people profiting off redditors are obviously superior.

Stop being intentionally retarded, you nigger.

producing that would have required creativity and education and no one would've latched onto it because trump's base is largely illiterate.

>producing that would have required creativity and education

Attached: twin peaks laughing.jpg (1920x1090, 110K)

>t. man confusing third wave feminism with free love

>t. man who doesn't know how to use photoshop and posts reposts exclusively

ya dun goof'd son

>HURR the side that doesn't speak entirely in garbage pop culture meme are the dumb illiterates!

lmao

Show me your photoshops.

>Everyone read the books or saw the movies, probably both
I didn't
In fact I didn't engage in almost any pop-culture at all as a kid and even an earlier teenager. Aside from the occasional sci-fi or WW2 documentary I didn't watch TV at all after I grew out of shit like thomas the tank engine. I also don't play videogames. Now I watch movies, I guess, but never capeshit and almost never any reality TV-tier movie.

sounds like he read Harry Potter as a kid

I'm old school. I delete any OC I make after the first time I post it.

>E;R

Isn't he a weeb? lol

Attached: 1550666746173.jpg (228x228, 17K)

... well, yea. If you remove literature there's not a whole lot in pop culture to capitalize upon.

>Hippie thinking somehow existing before the beatnik movement that spawned it
>post modernism somehow existing in the books of a writer that never touched it with a ten foot pole
>Environmentalism existing in LOTR because there are talking trees
You honestly deserve to get put out of your misery like the leperous swine that you are. Why don't you take that self fellating urge of yours and stick a halberd in your dick garage of a mouth you fucking faggot.

these brainlets keep insisting upon their anecdotal evidence
the left memed their "trump = voldemort" shit because they thought it was funny and they thought it would have appeal.
the right is edgier and finds that kind of humor banal and cringey. they instead memed frogs gassing bernie sanders and stuff like that. However, my point is that the vast majority of people posting pepes have at one time or another read HP or watched the movie. So reading HP does not equal becoming a mentally deranged adult.
If you wanted to argue that mentally deranged adults are more likely to be drawn to HP and obsess over it, sure I would agree. The argument, though, is that reading HP somehow mentally damages children. This is idiotic.

Attached: 1526572312943.jpg (800x614, 64K)

Nice blog faggot, nobody gives a shit.

>be Zoomer
>see memes on Yea Forums
>repeat them into a mic
>thousands of followers, thousands of patreon bux
You know society is going down the shitter when little shits like this guy are successful.

Not making memes about a book doesn't mean that you haven't read the book you meme-obsessed Gen Z faggot.

You seem to be exerting a lot of effort to push the idea that participation in pepe spam does not make you mentally deficient.

Yeah. The only thing he thinks is good is anime, and even then the "lonely weird teenage" type, with nothing to offer artistically. No wonder he's afraid of books.
/pol/ likes him because he says nigger a lot so that makes him brave and smart.

>Now I watch movies, I guess, but never capeshit and almost never any reality TV-tier movie.

Name your top five.

I want you guys to know I like harry potter and regularly dab on trannies and niggers

how do you draw the conclusion that the right hasn't read harry potter because they didn't make a meme about it...?

>t. man confusing concepts that predate hippydom by several decades with hippydom
Teddy Roosevelt cared about the environment, so I guess he was a hippy. Lovecraft believed that women are equal to men, so he was a hippy too. Hitler was a vegetarian and an environmentalist, so he was a turbo hippy.

fucking thank you.

This thread exemplifies very well why Yea Forums is a laughing stock among the interest boards.

give some examples of other stuff the right does to demonstrate they've read it then m8s

I don't give two shits about faggy potter but why do weeb faggots think their opinion matters? Just as bad as niggers.

Attached: 2345234234.jpg (468x587, 53K)

because no one wants to make /cel/ to get all these literal retards off this board?

It is just bantz
I am pretending to be retarded
And fuck women and jannies

Sometimes, I laugh to stifle tears.

What anime is his youtube avatar from? It always seems familar but I can't place it.

you're really just strengthening the argument that tolkien was a proto-hippy.

they're not fucking "memes" fucks sake they're just images with words written on them, not every god damn picture on twitter and facebook is a "meme"

Any kids who became fucked up after Harry Potter were always going to become fucked up. HP was just the catalyst. Blame bad parenting and tumblr for the main reason though

yea i know it sounds that way but don't believe that and it wasn't the intention i was trying to get across. i just worded that way for ease, because that seemed to be what the guy i was replying to was implying with his post. i should have chosen my words more carefully, but i'm not putting a lot of effort into shitposting in a harry potter thread.

Worst part is even if /film/ happened, /pol/niggers would still infest it just like they touch anything that is easy to understand.

log horizon

Attached: fcd8dd395bbb6c0ad8fdfa66de82a017.jpg (640x685, 31K)

It's all just underage shitters these days

To think that /fmg/ and /ahg/ died for threads like this fucking Christ

>filename
>defending a garbage series
Hello tranny

>based on what
interacting with the readers/viewers

Well I for one read Harry Potter as a kid and now I every waking hour of my free time on the internet so obviously something got fucked up at some point

He agreed with them on two things, and that's it. If he was a proto-hippy then so was Hitler.

the DATABASE one

>ahem, these e-celebs are occasionally talking about films so e-celeb threads on /film/ are valid
I can see it happening

If there was a button that you could press that would kill everyone who frequently posts on tumblr and /pol/ (and both), no one would hesitate for a second to smash it to pieces

This. I'm a physicist and a conservative, went to the March for Science on principle and was apallaed at the conception of science these people had

I read harry potter 1-3 over and over waiting for 4. Then I read 4 several times, rereading 1-3 a couple times. I did this for each book, read the 1-7 in a row several times up until I was 20ish. I started not liking them anymore, even my favorite (6th) was getting dull and I just stopped, haven't read them in almost 10 years.
never liked the movies

I can’t tell what’s worse, starting a thread with a twitter screenshot, starting a thread about E;R, or starting a thread about Harry Potter.
All I can conclude is that OP is a faggot of the highest magnitude. FACT!!!

Thanks senpai

>give some examples of other stuff the right does to demonstrate they've read it then m8s
are you unironically retarded? why do you think people go around consciously making an effort to demonstrate that they've read HP?
I've read Lord of the Flies. I don't go around making facebook posts of it or screaming about it on my soapbox.

For example?

yes, that's how proto-[thing]s usually work.

Why do /pol/faggots only go to boards like Yea Forums, /r9k/ or Yea Forums?
Why do you never see poltards in /sci/ or /his/, or Yea Forums? Really makes you think.

>blaming books for the bills of the world
lel

Attached: boc laugh.png (435x496, 289K)

This thread. Tons of people admit reading it.

so in other words, shitty anecdotal evidence?

Attached: 1549666034928.jpg (1992x2736, 493K)

They view science as a way to confirm their own biases. They have no idea that a good experiment should be able to falsify your hypothesis as well as prove it. Science to them is an appeal to authority rather than a dialectic

>why do you think people go around consciously making an effort to demonstrate that they've read HP?
because they've been driven crazy by reading it as children, as per the OP's premise?

Oh okay tranny, you are definitely the stable one

Attached: 1554147548331.jpg (1024x789, 141K)

Give an example where they do/did this.

Hippies loved LOTR dumbass
Also do you think Led Zepplin referenced it out of a love for traditional Catholicism

>cunnie-central is right-wing
kek

Mad Max
The Evil Dead
Blade Runner
The Rope
Dinner for Vampire

>u tranny
What a weak shitpost user, have a pity (you).

based and honkpilled

Not /ourguy/, and no he's not. HP is based

Attached: DBcfQAQTN8y.jpg (600x600, 57K)

No one cares about your laddit blog retard, go back

just throw a dart at any paper published in a field dominated by lefties

Attached: replicatation-graphic-b.png (630x870, 26K)

My mom bought me harry potter when I was 12, and I read every single part (expect 7 that was shit) at least 10 times.
I am a 28 year old kissless hugless virgin, wageslaving every day.
Can I blame my mom?

Why do all Zoomers have ADHD?

What's your argument here? "Psychology isn't a valid field of science"?

The social science, it's not governed by an actual interest in the truth, it's a beuraucratic effort infested by political ideology

No one cares about your gay opinion on what you think the world should be nigger. You arent the arbiter of right and wrong. Kill yourself

>archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/ replicatation-graphic-b/
>Post red pill appetizers before posting actual red pills

I see, you're one of those guys. How's freshman year, user?

Attached: 1536374782430.png (400x443, 232K)

Why did you go? It was obvious it was going to be another "intersectional" orang man bad screechfest. My gf told me she wanted to go, but I had much better ways to spend my Saturday.

Attached: timmy turner.jpg (261x196, 10K)

/pol/ is one huge echo-chamber where not one single atom of a discussion is found. It's just "people", if you can even call them that, fellating each other's opinion endlessly. Whenever evidence or an argument surfaces that contradicts their narrative and suggest that they might be slightly wrong, they'll just circumvent, ignore it, or spin it around in their favour.
There is no form of intelligence to be found, and you waste your time trying to argue with them. Just move on with your lives because these beings are broken machines incapable of thought.

Because I had a naive hope it wouldn't be like that

that was a rhetorical question, retard. they don't go around making efforts to demonstrate this.
look at it this way. the first harry potter book sold 400,000,000 copies. naturally, some portion of any population is going to mentally deranged, lets be generous and say 1%. That is 4 million deranged people walking around who have been exposed to harry potter.
Now here's where it gets good. Absolute retards (like you) see and interact with these 4 million, see the correlation, and are too stupid to realize that correlation does not equal causation. Nor do you realize that 4 million, while being a large number, actually represents a very small population of the total demographic who read the book.
Now were you able to follow or were you confused by some big words?

I would agree with him since I cant stand harry potter but E;R is a shitty reviewer and a shitty person so fuck off

sure, "psychology"

Attached: reproducibility-graphic-online2.jpg (630x1002, 349K)

And how many of them grew up dreaming of the day someone would just release a story about a boy wizard? The same amount the 30 publishers who rejected her also knew, fucking zero.
Harry Potter was THE point where I finally realized that Jews are right, you are pure cattle. If something's popular you'll latch straight onto it because you don't want to be ostracized because the weak find safety in numbers. It's pathetic obviously and I'm not including children in that, the demographic the series was aimed at, you know, 6-9 year olds or whatever it was. The second you're an adult queuing up in the freezing cold for the latest installment, you should seriously consider getting your brain examined or just gassing yourself.

Is Medicine a science?

>4 years ago

When I think of a proto-[thing], I think of something that comes eerily close to what it's a prototype of. A couple of examples: the cosmic horror of The King in Yellow is proto-Lovecraftian, and in the 1970s Iggy Pop's outrageous image and music paved the way for punk rock, so he's protopunk. Tolkien disagreed with the hippies on too many key issues to be called a proto-hippy.

Why do you newfags hate /pol/ despite clearly having never even been there?

Where's Mathematics?

How long have you been here, user?

I dunno, 12 years I think.

the premise of the thread is that reading harry potter as a child will make you a mentally deranged adult. we're not talking about adults who still creepily obsess over HP. i think we all agree that's weird.

>No wonder he's afraid of books
He used to read a lot of YA books

It's cool. Seeing the stupid shit at the march made me wonder if we are going to experience a dark age for scientific research in our lifetime.

Attached: protest.jpg (720x705, 49K)

of course

it tries to be

Attached: 100000 deaths.png (650x368, 369K)

Not a science.

Then you should be well aware of the issue that election tourists from reddit have, in fact, turned /pol/ into a massive echo chamber.

DEPENDS, IS IT INTERTWINED WITH PATENTS AND PROFIT MOTIVE, GRANTS AND FUNDING

YOU CAN MAKE A STUDY SAY NEARLY ANYTHING

PVALUES ARE SO EASY TO FUCK WITH AND VAST MAJORITY WONT NOTICE

BASICALLY NOTHING IS REAL, EVER
FAKENEWS!

We are in a dark age, the only holdouts are math, physics, and maybe chemistry, simply because it's almost impossible to make them political. Just hunker down and work on your time machine and I guarentee a thousand years from now won't be so bad

and just by pure coincidence all the deranged people happened to be lefties

>vaccines cause autism
>the earth is flat
>stem cell research is murder
We already are experiencing it.

Attached: dvfd.png (618x323, 76K)

He's 100% correct
the proof is zach

hippies weren't a unified front either. There was a lot of disagreement in the movement but since the overarching philosophy was "no war" there wasn't a (natural) breakdown of the movement.

/pol/ has more fucking arguments then any other board combined. Every poster there as their own individual retarded political ideology that they think is the best and greater than any other. You either have never been there or you don't know what "echo chamber" means.

>doctors and researchers conduct a well designed, double-blinded, placebo controlled clinical trial
>journals chooses not to publish said study
>implying this is the fault of the doctors

Attached: 1541829308270.jpg (250x174, 5K)

>tfw read nothing but non-fiction as a kid
>tfw I'm a loser and a brainlet

Attached: 1554225535788.jpg (299x296, 15K)

A "dark age" is a term for when there are insufficient records to build an accurate historical account of a period.

He is not wrong about me, that's all I can say.

It's an insufferable safe space memefest compared to pre-2015 because 99% of all stormfags and lolbertarians have moved onto infinitychan. Try making your own thread and watch it blasted to page 15 within seconds by an infinite amount of meme threads.

This is false. The kneejerk reaction to any dissenting opinion should prove you wrong.

so this guy you say?

i'm an engineer, so I figure I can throw one together and hope it doesn't kill me

it's sad how the scientific establishment has fallen to the same dogmatism they were accusing creationists of in the 2000s

>expecting STEM larpers to know what they're talking about

They're just insecure kids trying to feel superior to their non-nerd peers. Let them have this.

>giving people the drug caused nine times as many deaths as giving people the placebo
>the drug worked tho
>PUBLICATION BIAS

what even the fuck

No it doesn't, medicine is closer to being a field of engineering than it is a science, and it doesn't even CLAIM ot be a science.

More of something for the immature and childish to take shelter in
Potter doesn’t have the stupid amount of details for an autism magnet

Here's your average poster that goes on about election tourists
archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/110209448/#110209448
almost ALWAYS they're as new as the election

>he just didn't want to!
Why tho?

There is literally NO place for discourse because as soon as you try to argue or question ANYTHING you're called a shill and a nigger. Then the thread 404s because people would rather shitpost in the hourly bait thread.

>hm my critical study wasn't published
>tens of thousands die as a result
>oh well not my problem :D:D:D:Dd.d
what's the name of the morality system that condones this?

First of all: E;R is based.
Second, Harry Potter has not ruined as many mentally ill kids as this website.

>all the deranged people happened to be lefties
that's a funny one, user

Attached: 1527314745818.png (490x440, 464K)

>the only holdouts are math, physics, chemistry because it is impossible to make them political
Wait a few years, user, the future might surprise you.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

I haven't been to /pol/ much since 2015 but I'm pretty sure everyone there hates the meme spouting redditors as much as you do.
This whole conversation started because of a kneejerk reaction to a dissenting opinion you hypocrite.

What am I supposed to be seeing here?

No it isn't, that might be where the term originated but it's not the only way it's used.

>we built 95 bridges using x instead of y
>9 of the bridges we built with x collapsed, only 1 collapsed with y, but keeping bridges from collapsing was not the point of the study, and we found that x was effective.

W H A T

Sounds like Yea Forums desu, and Yea Forums has unironcially been like that longer than /pol/ has.

>a bloo bloo bloo people call me names ;_;
Uh-huh. Go try making an argument in a place like plebbit, you will be called names and then banned for wrongthink. Grow a spine and ignore the insults you fucking faggot.

Everyone on /pol/ past 2016 is a meme spouting redditor, which is why you don't go much there anymore and you know it. How dishonest.

Yes, that is the one and only meaning of the term "dark age" and the only reason people think otherwise is because they read the term, didn't know what it meant, and made up a fucking definition for it.

>moving the goalpost this hard
you want to talk about morality now, user, or scientific merit?

>I'm pretty sure everyone there hates the meme spouting redditors as much as you do.
Of course they do but that doesn't stop these faggots from spamming their retarded threads. Yo can fight it or move on, the majority has chosen the latter. I don't go there anymore either

Are you retarded? Don't bother answering that, you very obviously are.

>>Medicine: Science or Art?
>these are the topics seriously being discussed in the field
jesus christ, I really didn't need to know that

What an absolute retard. I wonder what books he read as a child that made him turn out the way he did.

Unfortunately in the good U S of A it makes you a hippy

>REEEEEE words can only ever have one meaning REEEE
Ask me how I KNOW you have autism.

see

fak uff.

Attached: 1553188514465.png (1618x900, 200K)

It's neither of those, the closest analogy is engineering, medicine is a field of applied technology.

I ONLY GO TO /pol/ FOR HAPPENINGS ANYMORE

ALL THAT DANK OC AND UNFILTERED FAGGOTRY

Attached: 1552785443957.png (800x528, 582K)

Then why bring it up in this thread with no prompt to? You're clearly still obssessed with it.

The point being, medicine is about prolonging life, first and foremost. Not publishing a study that shows a drug is nine times more deadily than a placebo is not publication bias, its a call for a more in depth study. But even that's a hard call when you prove that your drug has 9 times the mortality rate of a fucking placebo.

Jesus christ you're as thick as concrete. That's not the point you faggot, the point is whether you can actually argue and string your thoughts. It is perfectly possible to call someone out on their stupidity while still being coherent. Something that is impossible in /pol/.
>BUTWHATABOUTREDDIT
Memes upon memes upon memes, you will never be able to produce a single meaningful thought.

Tell me what the term dark age means if not "a time from which exists insuffient data to shed light on a historical period."

The first self-aware AI is going to be autistic, isn't it?

True, but there is scientific research one in both realms even though they're not primarily a science.

Attached: ar modification.jpg (1024x499, 50K)

to conduct good studies but not inform the general scientific community about your findings leads to bad science

Probably none.

So, because five people call you a nigger, you say there is no place for discourse? You're either very thin-skinned or you are delibaretely ignoring the people that would actually engage you on that board to make a point.
Last question: have you ever been to /his/? There's the same amount of circle jerking there, doesn't mean you can't find quality discussion provided you have the patience required.

> its a laddit trannies are upset that they insulted their garbage series thread
NIGGERS GONNA CRY ABOUT EVERYTHING

Imagine being that much of a /pol/ incel that you actually believe this shit just because your based and redpilled idol spouts it

But Yea Forums has been saying this since day 1 and they're supposed to be anti-/pol/ according to you plebs

wtf i love harry potter now

>Most boomers were hippies in their youth
No. No. No. Hippies were at most 2% of the young adult population at the time. And were confined to very small sections of USA & Britain.

>What is colloquialism

All your complains about /pol/ have been said millions of times before in a million different threads. You're thoughts aren't that meaningful and they're probably not even yours.

>oh no, some of the people who read a book as a kid some how became mentally diseased.

>it wasn't the media or globalism or automation or artificial intelligence

Nice meme faggot. It's like blaming millennials for boomer's woes.

>It is perfectly possible to call someone out on their stupidity while still being coherent. Something that is impossible in /pol/.
why?

The point is that you're retarded.

Stamp on his face son.

I live in the city where those books were written and let me tell you adult fans of those books ARE mentally defective.

>REEEEEE
What a man of science and reason you are.

Any period of relative decline is popularly termed a "dark age". Like the period between the first X-Men movie and the Nolan trilogy is sometimes called the "capeshit dark age". In b4 REEE

definitions made up by people who didn't understand a term

Literally everyone who actually knows what the term "dark age" means will give you an earful about how it does not mean what morons use it to mean.

There's like 4 different debates going on at once ITT.

Sure technology relies on science, but engineering is not science even tho there is a lot of science behind the engineering that goes into a skyscraper.

Thanks user, this post cured my retardation.

My mind now: Changed.

Attached: 1551248902190.jpg (399x225, 25K)

>Lmao ur a nigger kike tranny you mad vox media shill? Lmao xDDD go back to your reddit tranny discord resetera tumblr only people who confirm my biases allowed here xDDD
I don't know, why indeed.

I wouldn't call any of them debates.

Uh, what? Are you retarded? There's actually five.

To be fair, they're british

>REEE if you know what science is you're not allowed to be mean to autistic morons like me REEE
Get fucked, autismo.

You're arguing engineers conduct no experiments and make no observations?

You are correct, I missed the one about the academic definition of what "dark ages are"

It's kicking off, where's Danny Dyer when you need him?

Attached: 1553188769426.png (1366x846, 318K)

Language evolves, obsessing over definition doesn't make you smarter. The idea communicated was valid, you're just masturbating over something irrelevant rather than engaging with the real conversation.
TL;DR, you're a brainlet

I have discussion on /pol/ all the time, just learn not to be such an easily triggered faggot.

I wonder what you posted to get that though...

>adult fans of those books ARE mentally defective.
That's just it, you're saying "adult fans" which wasn't even implied in the tweet, it was about everyone who read the books as a >kid.
Where I live Harry Potter 1 has been a mandatory read at 5th grade for at least 12 years, that would imply that everyone in the past 12 years grew up to be a retard. I don't know why I'm even replying to this, it's just absurd.

>HURR
Engineers can do science, engineering is not a science. Understand now?

LMAO, no they're fucking not, they're most yank tourists.

The dark ages were not a period of relative decline. They were, in fact, a period of general ascent and recovery after the fall of the roman empire. But there aren't sufficient records to chart this because of the recovery period necessary after the fall of the roman empire.

We're living in a digital dark age right now, not because we're in a period of relative decline, but because if there is no electricity for about 2 years, future historians will have practically zero record of everything since magnetic and digital storage media became the predominate form of record keeping.

Don't be a language prescriptivist user, meaning changes through use.

they're all me

>Harry Potter was mandatory reading
ouch

No. Explain it to me again. But this time, do it with a sexy voice.

The people that bash religion and trump and who would participate in a stupid walk protest cant even name 5 scientists and their contributions, why the hell would it not be that way?

I LIKE SHITTING ON /pol/ PARROTS WHEN I HAPPEN TO SEE ONE SAYING EGREGIOUSLY RETARDED SHIT

ITS STILL A VALUABLE BOARD AS THE PREMIER PSEUDO ANONYMOUS POLITICS FORUM IN THE WORLD

Attached: 1546602640461.jpg (256x187, 16K)

The issue is the colloquial meaning of the term "dark age" obfuscates the actual meaning of the term "dark age." As the colloquialism and the actual definition have utterly zero relation.

Fuck all the poltards niggers back to R3ddit and pol/ for the sake of this place.

>The dark ages were not a period of relative decline.
Oh so you have no clue what you're talking about? Okay then. It's also totally irrelevant, the term "dark age" is used the way I described no matter what it originally denoted.

>Hey my /pol/bros why are niggers X Y and Z?
>jewsjewsjewsjews
>Liberals bad
Provoking and stimulating discussions indeed.

Yeah I phonepost, and yeah I have a gaping wound where my penis used to be, but that doesn’t stop me from being right, /pol/tard

Attached: image.jpg (916x834, 208K)

Yea Forums died before /pol/ did newfag

So what you're saying is, "dark ages" actually means that the ages BEFORE the dark ages were dark.

>just let them have this
>just let them get their foot in the door
>just give Germany the Sudetenland

>i can not read so therefore you are stupid

I guess you're going to start pretending to you were pretending to be retarded in a few posts.

Stay retarded, snowflake.

>I have discussion on /pol/ all the time
I'm so sorry user

Name 5 yourself. You have 20 seconds from this reply being posted.

>dull

>>Hey my redditbros why are /pol/tards X Y and Z?
>memesmemesmemes
>Conservatives bad
Provoking and stimulating discussions indeed.

Actually, yea. The colloquialism applies to the era roman collapse and the actual definition applies the period directly after the collapse.

You're a retard, not only because you're too autistic to understand that USAGE determines meaning, not etymology, but also because you think the dark ages were not a slump relative to the Roman period or the medieval period. Stay mad.

Still better adjusted than the kids who grew up on anime.

Asuka>Rei

Attached: 1551324886513.jpg (708x1000, 85K)

>t.pedophile

this is one of those cases where common usage came from a place of complete ignorance.

You can see how that makes it a confusing term though, outside of a very small circle.

But keep fighting the good fight about linguistic misconceptions user. I'll cheer you from the sidelines.

>Justinian Plague
>Famines and volcanic winters for the next 200 years after the fall of Rome
>Weak centralized power at least until the 10c with the exception of Charlemagne
>Arab invasions everywhere
Come on user, I know you want to make a point, but it's time to stop the bullshit.

This thread is now about age of consent.

Opening argument: It should be lowered to 14.

Discuss.

Attached: 1552607927533.png (936x560, 59K)

all of which is still better than total anarchy and barbarism.

And this, kids, is what we call a strawman.

So?

Are you that one sperg on Yea Forums who gets triggered by anime? Figures you'd be here.

Raised to 26.

I am willing to concede that, do you have a proper substitute that would cause you to cease your bitching?

that chart clearly shows it should be lowered to 10.

Most sensible post ITT so far.

>t.pedophile apologist

I think women not being married by 19 should be a crime.

Yes harry potter is for fags. It's like the cheap lifetime TV movie version of lord of the rings.

Raise it to 30