What do we think of this
What do we think of this
Don't care as long as his voice isn't shit.
you have to be fuckin kidding me right now that the bebop will be played by this funny asian dude?
Horrible Casting. John Cho is better
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Admittedly, he looks quite cool. He could even play Blade.
Jet is supposed to be older and gruff this guy looks like neither.
When I first saw it I honestly forgot for a sec that Jet wasn't black
hiring a gook to play a kike is a lot sillier
B-but muh being dubbed by a black guy
becasue of the white aesthetics
Ethnicity means nothing in Bebop. People just project shit on to the characters. It doesn’t matter.
Odds are the show will be shit, because it’s Netflix and a live action anime. But I don’t give a fuck who they cast or their ethnicity. It’s going to be entirely down to the scripts and music.
>fag Cho as Spike
>token as Jet
>sjw from Fallen Kingdom as Faye
This shit is going to bomb so hard.
I think it's cucked as fuck.
There is LITERALLY no reason to cast a black man as Jet.
its like the retards at netflix are aware they're a meme at this point
The actor is very passionate so regardless of how good the writing is or the production is, this guy will do his very best.
Terrible but compared to the other casting choices, it's somehow the least offensive.
>>Jet Black
>played by someone who is jet black
Poetry
I love Cowboy Bebop and I hate SJWs, but I am unironically fine with this pick. I knew they were going to shove a token into it somewhere, and it might as well be the character who is literally named Jet Black.
Guy actually looks like Jet to me, minus the skin color. Shave his head, give him a scar, and let's see what his voice sounds like.
The other casting I am also OK with. Not great, but decent enough. Could have been a whole lot worse, considering it is Netflix.
I'm sure it will be as bad quality as Death Note, though, so I'm not sure why we all care.
What reason is there not to?
I mean racism aside and all that, I know this is Yea Forums. But these guys are bounty hunters in space in the future. Their skin colour is irrespective of anything to do with their character.
t.undercover netflix cuck
Honestly, the last time I went to go rewatch Cowboy Bebop I was surprised to see that Jet was white, not black. In my mind I had imagined him as being a black guy, probably because of his name.
It's fine desu. He gives off the same kind of vibes as the original character (albeit a younger version). His skin colour doesn't really matter in this case and seems almost incidental. It isn't - because Netflix - but still. I'm fine with this.
i don't care
the choices for the other two(spike and faye) are worse and especially the mexican faye
Really shitty. Every single one of the actors selected (besides the woman ironically) look too young and manicured for their roles. Jet is a jaded ex cop with a struggling crew who can barely afford food or bills, Spike is eternally lost and living in the moment, Valentine is fleeing her past and relatively arrogant (same as spike). You know what I'd do? Cast two of the people that Netflix already knows of from altered carbon. Joel Kinnaman (dye/alter his hair) for Spike, since at least he's tall and lean enough + looks athletic, and Will Yun Lee as Jet. I know that Jet is suppose to be a pretty Big Guy, but hollywood and do something with that. Fay Valentine can go to any woman that can act really. That girl from It as Ed. Sounds like I'd still be within budget.
Could also be the fact that his VA in the dub is black
She looks good. No issue at all.
Jet is supposed to be like 50, this guy does not look 50. Idc if he is black (which he isn't) but his age and expierence are integral to the character. This is just another example of netflix writers not knowing anything about the source material.
Dog shit just like the rest, also
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every time.
>Jet is supposed to be like 50, this guy does not look 50
Black don’t crack, white boi
You know they can give him wrinkles and scars and shave his head and make him look old, right? They don't HAVE to hire an old guy for it to do that.
>Fay Valentine can go to any woman that can act really.
Faye is a tall buxom east asian that oozes charisma. No, her role cannot go to just anyone.
Actually yeah they really should have just hired his english VA. The fuck are they doing.
pretty sure she is white
So it is okay to hire minorities but fuck the elderly :^)))
BEBOP WAS A FUCKIN JEW?!
This is way worse than, black jet.
In fact I don't even see anything wrong with black jet. You /pol/fags just hate black people. Jet isn't even the main character, Spike is and this old asian dude looks nothing like spike and I doubt he can act as cool as spike and I'm not watching for this reason.
honestly I would cast a pornstar, but only one that's really good at oozing sexuality.
I don't you're going to find her bodytype, but you'd probably find pale skin/black hair/fake or real big titties with a korean actress
Amazing how many people haven't watched the show but feel the need to comment
>look through twitter
>everyone saying black jet is "inspired"
is this just the PC way of saying blackwashed?
I wouldn't care if she could act.
Lol, no.
She was officially born in Singapore.
She is the most Asian looking among all the characters if any.
I mean this guy is 42, how old do you expect them to cast someone into a TV show that could be running for a long time? They don't want an old main cast member because he might have a heart attack or stroke or something. 42 is fine for Jet Black. Look up other pictures of this guy, he looks pretty old in other pictures.
Don't get it wrong here, I don't like a single one of the castings. I knew someone would boil it down to this. Harold going to white castle is absolute shit and the shittiest pick, and the reason I won't bother, but none of the other picks seem very much better either.
Um, does Faye Valentine sound like an Asian name to you ?????
There’s literally zero reason to think she’s East Asian
That would have been based, it is really not hard to find an older black beefed up actor, why they chose someone who looks younger than john cho is beyond me.
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and before anyone hurrs or durrs and furiously googles Spike was born on Mars. Not a fucking clue about Jet.
What part of “born in Singapore” does your tiny fucking brain not comprehend?
>Some stupid fantasy name is more important than your place of origin and your looks
Lol, brainlet, go home.
She picked it when she came out of the cryo pod you fucking baiter.
>live action ATLA and this being made
>neither original show is on Netflix
Where your born isn’t the same as your ethnicity.
reasons not to
>Staying true to the material
>Loyalty to the fans of the original series who wants accurate adaptation.
Imagine them getting Ving Rhames to be Jet. That would be fucking cool and I wouldn't have a single problem with it.
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Actually, on the DVD interview the creator of Cowboy Bebop says that Faye is meant to be a white immigrant to Singapore.
>how old do you expect them to cast someone into a TV show that could be running for a long time?
My god, don't even say this.
Black jet makes total sense. Choosing this particular black guy is completely retarded.
Most asians are.
Niggers, eh ahem BLACK PEEPOLE look comical with their fat noses and fat lips and pube hair. Does Jet have any of those features.
Also Jet was a good cop, so clearly he couldn't be black.
was based on Quarry and The Deuce except for that one tranny banging scene
what does it say about me that i don't mind at all if jet is black only because it means it wasn't faye who got blacked instead
Disagree
It's the best possible litmus test for an animated character honestly, along with name. Faye's is fake, so we only get place of birth for a black haired big titty space thot. It's also hollywood, so SOMEONE from the animated show HAS to be asian, otherwise the SJWs will ree, so should probably make the big titty black haired girl.
Oh wait, nvm, the man mit der nomme "Speigel" is asian.
Damn that wouldv'e been neat.
He's definitely gruff. Watch Luke cage s2
I guarantee you the only people who care about Jet’s skin colour are a bunch of western racists. Watanabe isn’t going to give a shit about it. They’re adapting the show for live action in 2019. Jet’s character has zero to do with his skin colour.
>Jet Black
>lets make him a black guy
BRAVO
he looks pretty old desu
Faye got beaned
>black Jet makes total sense
I can't even comprehend how fucking stupid and up their own ass with cucked internalized leftist ideology someone would have to be to say this. Makes sense? Total sense? What fucking sense? The character isn't black. How does it "make total sense"? WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING MONGOLOID. JET WASN'T BLACK SO HOW DOES MAKING HIM BLACK MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE LET ALONE "TOTAL SENSE"? fuuuuuuck you you disingenuous nigger loving fucking retard, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you
>ITT retards missing the point
Netflix isn't trying to make a show that appeals to Cowboy Bebop fans. They're trying to adapt Cowboy Bebop into a show that appeals to Netflix fans. That means getting people who watch GLOW, Kimmy Shit, Sex Education, and other liberal oriented shows to watch it. They want those viewer bases to like it, not you dipshits who pirate all your shows and movies. You don't get a say when you're not shilling out money to Netflix and the vast majority of Netflix shills are normie liberals who still enjoy watching SNL.
You'll still complain about it after understanding this though because you're a bunch of fucking crybabies who love to feel victimized by companies like Disney and Netflix
Damn alright, time to get meaty then
lol saved
Already know that, I made the thread to get some (you)s and is working just fine
She is most definitely asian and this is one of the GOAT episodes of anime.
>It's also hollywood, so SOMEONE from the animated show HAS to be asian, otherwise the SJWs will ree
Sure. Maybe. That’s a thing and Netflix obviously bares it in mind. I’m a white guy aged 18-35 posting on Yea Forums. Obviously I don’t feel as invested in that area.
That said; the characters in Bebop aren’t defined in any way by ethnicity. They’re not, nor are they supposed to be, a reflection of specific backgrounds in our world. So I don’t care who they cast or what the characters look like. If they make Jet a wise cracking black stereotype and kill his character? Yeah I’m opposed. But just a black guy playing Jet? It’s fine. Same for any of them. The issue is the character, not the actor.
you replied to the wrong guy friendo
>dub
kys incel
>I guarantee you the only people who care about Black Panther's skin colour are a bunch of western racists. Marvel isn’t going to give a shit about it. They’re adapting the comic for live action in 2018. Black Panther's character has zero to do with his skin colour.
Stop shitposting leo and go bang models or something
Jet specifically isn't that old. The whole point is that he seems older than he is.
I didn't even really like Cowboy Bebop in its original run.
They do fit a certain aesthetics and come from specific places though, so it is a part of their characters and it is lazy casting to downplay it.
He was based in Luke Cage
Because changes were bound to happen by transitioning a 2d drawing into a real character. Find me one person on planet Earth that looks like Jet, go ahead, I'll wait. The character was also voiced by a black man, if they were going to change any character to a black character Jet is the best fit, they most likely did it due to marketing reasons. In the long run I don't even care that this change happened as long as Jet's personality stays the same.
Jet is only in his 30s. There seems to be a lot of retards in this thread that don't know that. Must've not payed attention while watching the anime... ADHD and all.
I don’t care about cape shit or your pre-existing battles.
>literally black in the comics
>"hurrr this is the same thing"
Shit, but not the shittiest casting. Anyone who says Cho as Spike isn't the worst is a fucking idiot and forgets the part where Cho has had "one" fight scene in his entire career and it was actually a stunt double with gratuitous amounts of jump cuts, and it STILL looked like shit.
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And they forget Spike is supposed to be able to do shit like this on the regular
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There’s nothing about Jet as a character that requires his skin to be white or yellow.
He is like 52
>that moment of shock when they realize it's Faye and she used to be sweet and innocent
you can't be this retarded
He's in his 30s. The actor is actually older than Jet is canonically.
Race doesn't matter DUH and lmao who cares about source material, Spike in the original anime spoke Japanese
Yeah but faye, ed and spike are from certain places and it does influence their backgrounds and adds to their characters.
I never said anything about making Jet black, I was talking about faye. I am
All of the actors they chose are shit. Like it or not human beings place certain personality traits to certain physical attributes, and in a short time visual medium like film, much is given by body language and the actor cast. For example:
>pick one to be spike
jason statham
daniel radcliffe
chris rock
actor bot 5
gilbert goddfreid
keanu reeves
Why did you select one? I'm not hinting at ethnicity because I don't give a shit short of misrepresenting actual historical figures or events a la BF5 or .
however this motherfucker is the one that is right
>Literally white in the show
>The character was also voiced by a black man
I was waiting for this. i knew you'd fucking say this, you fucking retard, you fucking absolute retard. GUESS WHAT? The character was voiced by a Japanese man you FUCKING STUPID FAGGOT.
This is Faye Valentine. Say something nice about her.
According to the show's wiki, he's 36
They really fucked up spikes casting then.
Yes they fucking did.
Disgusting, the entire show is disgusting.
Dude Bebop is set like 100 years in the future. Trying to act like their ethnicity is this ridged thing based on your stereotypical expectations is beyond daft. The ethnicity is completely inconsequential, the issue is how faithful to the character they are.
He must not be a nip then cause he aged like shit.
She looks like a whore the same except her tits are smaller
She's not making it easy
Gross opinion and it seems like this show will be targeted towards you. Enjoy.
Is spike yellow skinned in the show? What physical market makes him Asian? In black panther their skin is fucking black therefor they are black. How am I retarded
Not in the english dub of the show, which even the creator of Cowboy Bebop prefers to the original. This is also the version most people who would watch a Netflix version are aware of.
>niggerfying Japanese products
>niggerfying the product of a people who have no white guilt towards niggers because they never colonized niggerfrica and have no responsibilities towards the race whatsoever
This ain't gonna end well.
You Westcucks can feel the guilt all you want, but don't push your guilt onto cultures incompatible with it.
I don't mind it NEARLY as much as spike's. The voices are what's going to kill it for me.
I swear I swiped no to her last month on tinder
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I thought she might be an okay choice but she is kinda ugly. Yikes.
makes sense. The idea of a masculine tough white guy is ridiculous, nobody would take it seriously
You think it’s gross to not give a shit if Jet is black? Why?
I’m probably going to hate the show, because I’m a big fan of the anime. I’m also fully aware Netflix is artificially trying to increase representation of minorities in their shows. The point is Jet isn’t defined by being whatever ethnicity you think he is. Neither is Faye. It isn’t important to the story at all. So why should I care, other than if I’m a pol poster who gets upset at inconsequence things and thinks my race is under attack?
have sex plz
Accurate adaptation? If I want to watch Cowboy Bebop, I'll just watch the anime. Fuck this live-action shit. Most fans don't need it.
>Has black hair and brown eyes
>Talks about how his hero is Bruce Lee
>Was involved in a Chinese criminal organization
>The creator says he's based off a Japanese actor
>Spoke Japanese in the original show
Seems pretty clear to me that he's asian
a manlet made this image
Can we ban /pol/ from Yea Forums? It's bad enough they're on that shit clown, the Joker's dick and they're bitch and moan about this.
The guy on the left, who signs his paycheck?
Hint: its pic related
>Spoke Japanese in the original show
it was not clever of you to add this
Doesn't mean anything. Sorry
>Is spike yellow skinned in the show? What physical market makes him Asian?
Just because the original creators made Spike white doesn't justify changing jet's character to black.
Black Panther was black in the comics,
He was black in the movie
Spike was some white or hapa mutt
Should have been white or hapa mutt
Jet was white in the show
Jet should have been in white in the adaptation.
that's obvious satire you impressively large retard
inb4 me too merelypretendineglol I can smell the salt flaking from your ass from here
I mean this in all sincerity.
Why do you care?
It is important because it is the way they look and their past backgrounds, why even adapt it if you do not care? Why not create something within the universe but original characters? They shouldv'e just bought the rights to firefly.
I care because its horrible casting.
you want someone to look like Jet to play as him.
Its that simple.
Why do you try to defend this horrible casting choice so much?
You think it’s important to Jet’s background to be not black? Really? He’s an ex cop with a lost love. Nothing about his character is in any way tied to his nationality or ethnicity.
>anime with the most diversity
>still do this for no fucking reasons
Americans ruins everything
>chestlet
Probably liked black hermonie too, since race doesn't matter and all' and it has nothing to do with people wanting iconic characters to be portrayed correctly
>bro haha why even have opinions on things you care about i mean cmon haha why even bother to think about stuff?
Why do you care if he looks like just like Jet? If they’d cast an Asian guy as him would you be so upset?
I’m defending it because it doesn’t matter. I don’t think it’s good or bad casting because I know nothing about the actor. I just know what Jet isn’t defined by his ethnicity in any way. He could be Asian and you wouldn’t be complaining. He could be white and you wouldn’t be complaining.
Jet is white skinned and blue eyed. why not set it in the star wars universe and have all the characters replaced by gungans if the original material matters so little to you?
But why do you have this opinion? He’s not factually white or factually Asian, yet you’d presumably be happy with either of them in an actor. The issue here isn’t authenticity.
Satire? That's what we call it now? Listen cum guzzler, keep sucking dick & shut the fuck up. /pol/ is a fucking stain on this boards, so keep quiet.
Because it’s a fucking remake. You’re the kind of mindset that thinks the Psycho remake was a good idea.
The issue isn’t if Jet is black or not originally, the question is why it matters if live action Jet is black. Why does it upset you? Nothing is lost or gained by it.
Spike was Jewish, his haircut is based on Bob Dylan and his surname is Spiegel.
Is Jet black in the anime?
Gross dude. No she does not.
Thundercats had a better Jet with Panthro
No. Is he white?
Yeah I get it you’re a Yea Forums weirdo that thinks any woman that isn’t a prude is a degenerate and gross.
> If they’d cast an Asian guy as him would you be so upset?
yeah, I would be upset unless the asian guy atleast looks like him. Because creating an adaptation atleast demands proper casting which is easy to do in the U.S but they would rather stick to this formulaic
casting than take the infinitely better route of choosing a person who act that looks like jet to play as him.
Based
He's not black, so the casting is very bad.
The problem is remakes are shit because of people like you who drop story aspects and aesthetics of the original, overall missing the spirit.
But go on and rewatch your netflix "original" death note and the LA DBZ and tell us how great they are cause they changed shit.
The idea you’re so hung up on them looking like a cartoon character is so fucking silly. Step back a little and just think how stupid it is to actually get upset about this. You’re seeing this as a war and you’ve lost a solider, it’s kind of sad.
Ashly Burch as Edward
it's perfect
since satire is too big of a word for your soi addled brain, let me help you. It means, basically, to mock something using exaggerated language to sound like the other party. Here's the big boy google for you:
the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
he's making an ironic /pol/ post. The more you skree and skraw about the /pol/ boogeyman, the more fuel gets added to the fire. The fact that you leap to outrage and calling me a faggot tells me you're not a very bright one, and a newfag at that. You'll have better luck back on tumblr. Of course, you'd miss the opportunity to browse the catalogue looking for pictures with brown people in them to scroll through, misinterpret shit and get asshurt online about.
People like you are the reasons of why we will get a shitty Evangelion live action one day.
I have very little faith in this remake to be good. It’ll almost certainly be shit. I’m a big Bebop fan and I have low expectations for Netflix shows.
The least of this shows issues is the ethnicity of the actors. It’s completely inconsequential. It’ll probably suck because of the lack of talent involved in its production and show runners, not because Jet is a black guy.
>What do we think of a shit show for redditors that is now getting a live action adaption
I wouldnt know, I have good taste
lupita nyongo was born to play rei
>its just a cartoon character DUDE lmao
>lets copy its story and every other aspect though
isn't it about time to dilate?
its the same reason why people dislike historical adaptations wherein characters are changed to be of a different race.
The excuse is that a change of race wouldn't affect the nature of the events nor the narrative but people deep down understanding how inaccurate or inappropriate it is.
>Honestly, the last time I went to go rewatch Cowboy Bebop I was surprised to see that Jet was white, not black. In my mind I had imagined him as being a black guy, probably because of his name.
>things that never happened
How the fuck do you forget what a main character looks like?
I hope they don’t just directly copy everything about the original. It would be boring and predictable. I’m not watching a live action remark just to see a note for note reproduction.
Yeah, them looking/acting nothing like the characters won't effect the quality at all bro.
Wait. Ed is female?!
honestly that is the most anime looking black i have ever seen. brava
>its the same reason why people dislike historical adaptations wherein characters are changed to be of a different race.
Except in this case that’s a non issue. If you remake citizen Kane and somehow Kane is a millionaire black guy in the early 20th century there’s logical issues. 100 years from now, in Space, Jet can be anything.
>actor looks absolutely nothing like the character they are playing, not even the same race
>people ask why you have a problem with this
I really can't believe these people exist.
This people are crazy in their heads and are able to ignore what something look like for political reasons.
Acting will.
Looking? Not really. It’s not an issue. Nobody is going to look like an anime character. There’s no human alive that looks like Faye and Spike.
>TRANNYTRANNYTRANNYTRANNY!!!!!
Christ, does discord scare you fags that much, jackass?
>100 years from now, in Space, Jet can be anything
except in the show he wasn't anything.
he was white.
It’s a live action remake. It’s not a replica. If you need everything to be identical, watch the original.
Hit a nerve, sweatie?
Or was he Asian?
You can’t say either way, because it was never an issue they needed to define.
WHERE'S LUKE CAGE!
Then there is no point in anime remakes then. For fans the novelty of it, is seeing your favorite scenes recreated in LA format and for non fans it is introducing them to a good story in a way that is more accessible to them, i don't want some bebop OC fanfic from shitty netflix writers unless wantanabee is involved.
>Watch Luke cage s2
No
was he black though?
Yeah i'm sure they got a real A Tier acting squad going here boss, cause that is what netflix is known for.
>What part of “born in Singapore” does your tiny fucking brain not comprehend?
What part of Singapore is a multicultural city-state does your tiny fucking brain not comprehend?
>According to the country's most recent census in 2010, nearly 23% of Singaporean residents (i.e. citizens and permanent residents) were foreign born (which means about 10% of Singapore citizens were foreign-born naturalised citizens); if non-residents were counted, nearly 43% of the total population were foreign born.[311][312]
Singapore is a country whose entire economy revolves around international trade. Do you really think there are no white or at a minimum Eurasian families that live there?
No. But again; his ethnicity wasn’t defined. If he was Asian, you wouldn’t complain. If he was white, you wouldn’t complain. They’re as different as black and white.
If you want everything to be different, watch something else.
it's not concerning simply that he is black, but that the production of a live action adaptation is already trying to distance itself from the source material.
if you want to do a remake then do a remake. if you want to do something else then do something else. why take a work, change bits of it and then try to cash in from existing fan base?
its cynical.
there is a reason that bebop had a cult following and the indications point to this will not be faithful, so why should anyone want to see it?
the diversity in itself is interesting, as a japanese work originally there is plenty of scope for diversity and the original work its self is very interesting from a cultural anthropology perspective. why shoehorn a black guy in its pretty clearly pandering.
will he make a good jet? i don't know who the fuck he is so no comment
also i'm not a racist, i unironically have no problem with a black playing ANY traditionally canonical white role as long as they play the part of a white. i.e. elba as bond is fine by me as long as the character stays white.
Yeah and George Lucas prefers the special editions.
I’m a Bebop fan, I’m under no illusions this show only exists to sell a product to people who haven’t watched the original. Remakes aren’t made to appeal to existing fans.
Yeah, in the movie some perverted fag flirts with Ed during Halloween, Ed tells the fag she is a girl and the fag shoos her away.
Nah. I'm gonna introduce your sister to 8 inches of hard black dick, whitey.
And by foreign born they mean mostly other asian countries lol
>Not in the english dub of the show, which even the creator of Cowboy Bebop prefers to the original
This is an old wives tale that no one can ever source.
The English dub is awful. Spike in particular is shit. He sounds like fucking solid Snake.
If somebody doesn't know what Cowboy Bebop is by now, they're not going to be sucked into watching this trash.
You greatly underestimate the power of Netflix featuring something in their highlights section.
Hot off the press!!!
They just cast the role of Ein
Did he have black skin in the show or not?
If he was asian, it would go as this post said if he was white, it would be the same thing.
The actor in an adaptation atleast needs to look like the character and jet did not have black skin.
You greatly overestimate Netflix
They can be made to allow people who will not watch an anime be able to expierence the same story and characters in a way they prefer. I really don't see the point in taking the characters otherwise. Might as well make OC content and say it is was influenced by it at that point.
>the same story and characters
how much Jazz will be in this?
>muh pointless netflix OC meant to appeal to no one
>The actor in an adaptation atleast needs to look like the character
Not true, btw. That’s the ultimate pleb mindset.
Then can the character who drags a coffin around with him and the afro chick be white people? That wouldn't upset anyone would it. The color of their skin don't mean anything.
Has this ever worked for the better?
Jet is like late 30's, no more than 40/41 at most in Bebop. Spike is like late 20's / early 30's, Faye honestly could be anywhere in 20's / early 30's. Jet looks old and compared to the rest he comes off as a grumpy old dude, but he's relatively young. He's just a burned out ex cop that's seen too much shit.
Nah, fuck your artistic vision and the shows atmosphere.
He was in Jason Goes To Hell as one of the early detectives that gets killed / possessed. At this point he's way too old to play the actual character of Jet. Jet is older than the rest of the crew but he's not at retirement AARP age.
Sure.
You’re acting like I’m some woke twitter propaganda guy. I don’t WANT Jet to be black. I just don’t care. It means nothing to me. My interest in Jet isn’t related to his skin. I know he’s black to appease quotas. I know a lot of people would complain if it was an all white cast, and I disagree with those people. But as a Bebop fan I just don’t see it as a pro or a con if Jet is black.
>adaptions are better when actors look widely different from source material.
Atleast Peter Dinklage is white and a manlet. A certain degree of visual fidelity is expected in an adaptation.
Maybe late 30s is old to the japanese.
Not better. Just not worse. It doesn’t matter. You’re seeing this as a BATTLE where you don’t want to give up a character to the SJWs or the Jews or whatever. But it doesn’t matter. Jet doesn’t gain or lose anything from being black.
>I don't WANT Jet to be black.
>It doesn't matter to me
You're such a faggot holy shit. You're literally the "Man BOTH sides are so dumb! I'm so much smarter because I sit on a fence with a post up my ass!"
You saying he doesn't gain or lose anything doesn't make it true. He loses out on looking like the fucking character. He gains literally nothing from being so radically different.
Poor little Jew boy
if it could not have been better then its worse.
If it doesn't matter and he doesn't gain or lose anything from the change, why change it?
This so much, suprising someone like this can sit through something that isn't ten episodes long.
Getting emotionally invested in the skin colour of a fictional character is dumb, yeah.
I remember making this joke 6 months ago when The Witcher filled its cast with black people, and here we are it seems.
>He loses out on looking like the fucking character
Live action Spike isn’t going to look like an anime character, fyi
I don’t think it’s a good thing they made him black. It’s just not a thing that matters. He’s black to fill quotas, obviously. But maybe the actor will do a good Jet. It’s not a hill to die on.
Low tier arguement. Take a lap.
Being passive about these things just creates more shit content and is why netflix is worth billions.
Are you under the impression I don't have a problem with Spike being played by a bloated 46 year old Korean who can't act?
It’s actually a conversation ending argument. Nobody is going to actually look like the anime character because humans don’t look like anime characters.
and live action tyrion is never going to look like a disfigured imp with bulbous protrusions on his head but they managed to cast a manlet who was white and could act.
>small tits
Failed casting
>WAAAAAHHHHHHHH! HE WON'T PICK A SIIDDEEEEEE!!!
Christ, Yea Forums is a shit board. You assholes make Yea Forums sane. Not everything is a political/race/sexual thing.
I guess they will call him Jet Black(ed) now
I don’t have an impression of you. I’m sure the show will suck, but it won’t be because of the skin colour of the actors.
Black people especially don't look like characters from anime.
Your argument is an arbitrary line. You've got two options essentially:
1. Stick as close to the source material as you possibly can
2. Don't do that and rationalize any decision you make any way you want (it doesn't matter, entertainment, different medium, budget, whatever)
Enjoy the world of rationalization if you please. But a lingering question for the actual content creators out there:
>Does changing shit get you closer to your goals?
If the goal is to cast more black people then the answer is yes. I can't see how they make these changes for a reason I personally care about though. In media I see casting mediocre people because they're black, not because they're the best. It makes the final product worse.
Which is bad.
Idris Elba in the MCU was awesome, because he's awesome. Did they cast this black guy because he's the best?
We'll see. I doubt it.
There’s no war to fight here unless you’re the kind of person who hears “white genocide” and doesn’t laugh.
It is not like they have purple skin and testicles for chins. All the characters have real life skin colors, eye colors and hair colors.
Keep being a doormat while pretending to be so much better than everyone else. If you don't voice your objections early enough it becomes too late to stop it later on when it's something you DO care about.
It is since 2016, sadly.
If he’s a bad actor, and does a poor job portraying Jet, I’ll shit on it.
I expect that to be the case
But his skin isn’t going to be a negative or pro.
It is about the creative mindset behind and not a racial thing.
I don’t get emotionally invested in remakes of anime so trust me, there’s never going to be a point where I’m trying to “stop” anything.
Saying "I don't care" and then saying "It doesn't matter" is picking BOTH sides you fucking retard. If he didn't care then why is he here in the thread? What kind of colossal faggot goes into a thread about something he doesn't care about and argue with people who do care?
There’s nothing wrong with wanting more minorities in media, the issue is if you’re hiring untalented people. We’ll see how this guy does, I know fuck all about him.
White """men""" will be bred out and all that sweet shiksa slutty puss will be atate property of the chosen's people state.
And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it
God your gf must hate you. Lmao.
>It'll only ever be in anime adaptions hahaha
>It'll never be a gateway to changing other things hahaha
The thread is asking what you think of this casting.
I don’t care strongly about it. But seeing people get so upset about it because he’s black is silly to me when you’re remaking a 20 year old cartoon.
Probably. I’m posting on Yea Forums about anime while watching pro wrestling.
Why not make movies for minorities then instead of changing pre established characters to pander to them? Why not make a space show for blacks?
But I thought it doesn't matter to you? So why bother even coming in and saying that it doesn't matter? Oh wait... you don't care strongly for it... so it does matter to you! You're fucking retarded jumping through so many hoops to try and remain "on the fence"
Why do you think having one black guy in your anime remake is taking it away from you?
I’m wasting time on the internet at 1:30am talking about a remake of a show I’ve been a fan of for nearly 20 years. So in that sense yeah I care, you got me.
This is my favorite anime. I’m looking at a framed Bebop poster on my wall right now. I’ve watched it multiple times over the last 17 years. I honestly don’t think I’ll even watch the Netflix show. It’s not sour grapes. It’s just at this point we know what to expect and it’s not interesting. Even the lame forced controversy is boring.
I don't, i just don't understand why "diversifying the media" is almost always altering established content rather than creating something new.
Seems like they are afraid blacks can't carry a non super hero/pre established franchise which is even more racist to me.
I’ll watch it out of curiosity. But it’ll almost certainly suck.
this
I enjoy things that are closer to the source material. I like when casting brings a character to life how I imagined it.
Scar Jo in ghost in the shell was not good - she's too nice of a person in her core being. Brie Larson was a fucking travesty in captain marvel - she's not sexy and freewheeling. Tom Cruise in Jack Reacher - he's not a huge fucking dude who takes absolutely no shit from idiots.
As for skin color - it's an element of the character. Did Gamora NEED to be green? No. She could have been a black alien. It changes nothing on a script level to make her green or blue or black or yellow. But she was green and it was awesome that the effort was put in to make her closer to the original character. I like that effort. It's nice.
Straying from the character with casting for any reason is a risk and I'd like it done less.
I want white characters to stay white.
I want asian character to stay asian.
I want green characters to stay green.
>spike spiegel
>main gun was an israeli pistol
what did you think?
It’s a remake of a 20 year old show. I have no doubt that Watanabe is totally fine with the idea of Jet being black. There’s no battle worth fighting here.
Well said.
>It’s a remake of a 20 year old show
What does this have to do with anything?
Jet’s character has nothing to do with his skin. He doesn’t even have a nationality. If you want it to just look like the anime in real life than yeah, I get the disappointment. My argument isn’t that it’s better he’s black, it’s that Jet as a character doesn’t need to be white or Asian. I know why he’s black on the Netflix show. And it’s possible they’ve cast a less talented black man just to appease quotas. It’s quite possible this will suck. But if it does it isn’t because he’s black.
>fucking weebs ruined the casting by constantly screeching whenever their is a non-asian lead in a live action remake so we're stuck with fucking Harold instead of an actual actor
thanks faggots
>But if it does it isn’t because he’s black.
Not because they missed the point of the original artistically or nothing. Yep.
netflix+weebs=pure cancer
How much fucking grease did he slather in his hair and beard? Disgusting.
The point of the original isn’t “these are white people”
Still waiting for Ein casting
Yeah but if you fuck up something as simple as what these iconic characters look like can't imagine how shit the writing will be.
>How much fucking grease did he slather in his hair and beard? Disgusting.
He owned a meme gun. Was the Terminator a jew because he asked for the UZI NINE MILLAMEETER
Yes. This is common knowledge.
They haven’t “fucked it up”. It’s not like they have colour blindness.
spiegel is a jewish name you know, not /pol/posting but it is.
Yes, because fucking up what iconic characters look like is succeeding.
Ein will be played by a cat
being a saudi is so gay
there isn't much to do, and all you do is hang out with other bored men
>dub
Spiegel is a german name.
Regardless Spike is asian because the creator based Spike on an asian.
wipe that dandruff off your keyboard
Everybody was a nigger this whole time. I'm a nigger, you're a nigger, he,she, we, we're all niggers.
The dub is superior. A rare occurrence, but this a fact for Bebop.
>realistic hair colors
Spike's hair is green
>Why not make movies for minorities then instead of changing pre established characters to pander to them?
This is what Jordan Peele is doing and people still have a problem with it.
I could sworn spike used to be Yakuza
Bumbaclot
>She is most definitely asian
Like all of them she seems mixed
Problem is in anime they often draw Asians as whites and then if they ever have characters like Americans they go full blown caricature in a complete different style to get around this
Which is possible.
>The dub is superior
The dub is never superior. You just think it is cause you saw it on cartoon network first.
They are dumb and don't understand how bad the alternative is. They are peeles original movies, idc what he does.
even the creator agrees that english spike > jap spike
yeah that would have been an add with rhames
>fifty year comedy actor to play spike
OH NO NO NO
Should've casted a swarthy old white guy or a lightskin nigger instead.
People say this all the time and then, when asked to, can never provide proof.
>Ving Rhames to be Jet
Fuck. Yes.
No idea why they blacked Jet, he's the most explicitly Asian character out of the four
Always hear nignogs are strong and yet all strength record holders are white
At my gym not single non white beat any local record ever or even got onto our top 5 leader board in any category
Always see those black heavy roiders pumping on some low weights all day with 20+ reps doing shit all straight training
Makes you think
I think it's a day that ends in 'y' in burgerhell.
imagine believing a shitty lupin impression is better than his english voice
Jet is 36, he has a whole episode preview monologue where he remarks about him looking older than he is
>not preferring the original version of anything
It was my least favorite.
>He sounds like fucking solid Snake.
They sound nothing alike.
Not as shit as casting Harold and Kumar
they should have done a mulatto for Spike. Cho doesn't fit imo
Don Cheedle?
Someone floated Keanu Reeves to play Spike and I wasn't too sure but going from Keanu Reeves to John Cho is one giant fucking leap backwards.
>fictional characters dont matter in their own mediums
Why do liberals think that race is just a skin color? Aren't they proponents of science being the end all vs religion and ideology?
I mean who cares. The show is gonna be average regardless of who they cast. Its fucking netflix