>good at writing in general
>over the years since high school ive created hundreds of different stories and plots for film
>too scared to approach a hollywood exec and sell my script
how the fuck does it even work?
are there even any screenwriters here on Yea Forums?
i dont have a college education but ive been creating stories for years but im too much of a pussy bitch to have people read them
Good at writing in general
most companies only accept scripts via a reputable literary agent (gayest thing I ever heard of I know) and most literary agents won't take you unless you have theatre & shit on your CV. my advice just bypass literary agents (useless anyway) and find your own methods of getting your script in the hands of people. don't join the fucking agency swamp with the rest of the losers. will just get lost in the shuffle
Whats are those ”—” supposed to mean?
who the fuck knows. literally no need for them
first off, your writing isn't as good as you think; second, only nepotism works in Hollywood, meaning you'll never make it.
Usually it's for cutoff dialogue, but it seems to be misused here as punctuation and signal to cut to next shot.
You can submit to screenplay competitions like Nicholl, and Austin FF. Google and make sure they're reputable.
Some boutique agencies accept query letters.
Post a sample of your writing.
Do you expect advices from people who never sold a script? That's stupid.
Don't be a pussy, reread everything you wrote and sell the best work. Do it, faggot.
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ITT we write the screenplay for Yea Forums the movie. I'll start.
INT. DIMLY LIT PARENT'S BASEMENT - NIGHT
You have more chance of turning any script in to a book and getting a movie deal after it sells than going to to the Hollywood Jew machine directly.
They have 10000000000 other faggots just like you who are shoving scripts in their face, it bores them all.
Unless you can prove your story can sell. They wont touch it.
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What the fuck did he just say to me...
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He submits the post, pops open a can of Monster energy drink, and refreshes his browser every five seconds while grinning stupidly at the picture of CIA, played by actor Aidan Gillen in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises (2012), standing in front of an airplane, that accompanies his submission. He eagerly awaits a reply, also known as a (you), from his ilk, the only human attention and interaction that he will get on most days. Another precious day of his life slips away.
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>be jew
That's what I was thinking. Either write a transition or just use a dot or comma.
Hi there. Actual published author here. I've had 3 novels in the top 5 in a couple of territories at the same time, I've had a couple of book tours, 1 across Europe. I've written the screenplay for one of my novels which has been picked up for a movie by Lionsgate. Let me help you.
>good at writing in general
You don't let anybody read what you're done so I would put a lot of money on you actually being terrible with a lot of bad habits. Writing a novel and a screenplay are two very different things especially when it comes to structure.
>over the years since high school ive created hundreds of different stories and plots for film
You put this as if this as if it's something special. I know people who write down 3 or 4 concepts every morning. It's normal.
>i dont have a college education but ive been creating stories for years but im too much of a pussy bitch to have people read them
You don't need an education, you need to learn the craft. You're bragging about something that you're displaying absolutely no technical knowledge of. Before you posted this did you spend a couple of weeks reading other screenplays? Reformatting what you've done? Again, the smart money would be on no.
How are you planing to pitch? Have you approached an agent? Have you engaged in conversation with anybody in the industry or spoken to small film makers? Again, the answer is no.
Get the fuck out of here and actually do the legwork become running your mouth about how good you are. If that abomination you've posted is a sample of your work then you have a lot to improve on.
Consider this a polite kick up the ass to sort it out.
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Honestly, Hollywood isn't that strict about format if you're somewhat established, and you don't go full retard.
You're not going to get near an exec, to pitch a script, unless you have a record of writing scripts that were successful movies. Any unsolicited script to an executive is just a neon blinking light that says "potential lawsuit", because if they accept it, and ANY of your ideas or characters show up in another movie, you'll go "REEE MINE" and sue them.
Not happening.
I know people who write in Hollywood. ALL of them started out working on writing teams for tv shows, or did spec scripts and punching up on existing scripts. You have to have Goodwill Hunting level of quality to get anyone of merit to look at your script, and even then, maybe.
There are at least 100,000 people ahead of you, with actual talent, who want the job you do. None of you will get the jobs - people with experience, contacts, and talent will.
Getting in as a scriptwriter is HARDER than getting in as an actor.
You want to be a scriptwriter? Go eat shit doing cleanup and write for shit TV shows, get to know people, and take opportunities when they pop up. Maybe then you'll get a crack at an actual shooting script.
I know someone who's actually a talented writer. He's editing movies and TV shows, because he couldn't crack that barrier, with a degree and student film work and writing for shitty Nick and Disney type shows for years.
>You have to have Goodwill Hunting level of quality
How then do you explain the current state of hollywood. I haven't seen anything original in the last 15 years.
What these guys said, movies are expensive and scripts rarely get produced. They even have that “Black List” of scripts that people in the industry are interested in but still don’t get mad. A good idea is turning your ideas into novels, much easier to submit, and then if it’s really that good maybe it will be a success and you can attempt to get that made into a movie.... that a Hollywood script writer would butcher before being butchered further by the movies producers. But let’s not get ahead of yourselves, try turning your ideas into books and then spend all your time submitting to publishing companies. Don’t forget the Confederacy of Dunces guy submitted his book for years with no success until he finally killed him self. Afterward his mom kept submitting it and then eventually someone picked it up and now it’s one of the most famous novels ever made. Fuck did they ever make a movie out of that even?
Also it’s probably different from screenwriting and writing novels but you could try comic scripts also, Dark Horse comics at some point actually took submissions from random people, they may still
Black List scripts are absolute trash used by writers to get enough attention for a commissioned project. You think Hollywood would post their best ideas for everyone to see?
OP, what these naysayers are likely true in respect to the odds against you, but you'd never know if you don't try.
Very few industries take unsolicited submissions these days, because of the legal liabilities. Art, music, writing - nobody wants to touch unsolicited work, it's literal kryptonite.
You MIGHT get indy people to look at work, but they're usually working with scriptwriters they know and have scripts they want to develop.
Scriptwriting is a top tier job. You don't just walk into it, it's like walking in a major record label and saying to the receptionist "I want to be a rock star, where do I apply?" It doesn't work that way. You work your way UP the rungs to writing scripts. You start by eating shit doing shitty rewrites and spec work and shit tier TV show stuff. And even then, there's no guarantee anyone will ever see your script.
>implying Good Will Hunting was good
Define "good" writer/writing. Two types of scripts in H-wood: commercial and prestige. If you can combined those attributes, then you can sell it. Keyword, SELL, because at the end of the day, H-wood is a business, and one way or another you have to make them money, either directly through a successful commercial film or indirectly by raising the studio's prestige with an inexpensive art film.
Yeah that goes for established, not if you want to get your scripts read and directed by someone else. It's also just terrible style.
You have to do it yourself. Be a director as well and get free wannabe actors from california.
I didn't say anything about quality, nice strawman. I'm talking about just getting the gig.
NOBODY pitches a movie studio exec as an absolute nobody. Their secretary won't even take your message. You don't exist to them, until you have a bunch of work under your belt. You won't even get an agent until you have some work credits they can sell.
That’s cool I agree with you and nothing I said implied otherwise
>mentions quality
>I DIDNT MENTION QUALITY
yikes
Good Will Hunting, regardless of what YOU think of it, was considered a heavy hitting script when Damon and Affleck starting selling it around town. And, considering the business it did, well...your opinion is questionable.
If your scripts are actually good, all you have to do is network with people who have agents. Become friends, show them your script, they'll show it to their agent.
Keep in mind, a good script could still be passed on if the agent doesn't know how to sell it. Like a good robot romcom script would be harder to sell than a good, regular romcom script.
If it's a fucking great script though an agent will sell their soul to see it in theaters.
make your own movies you fucking punk
it's the 21st goddamn century
you have a hd phone in your pocket
soderberg says today you can make a debut feature film for less than 10k
stop being a fucking boomer cuck and just make it
Apparenly you also just hand over scripts to people but give out an expose. If people are interested they'll ask you for an excerpt and if that's good they'll ask for a script. If you just send somebody a script it probably just goes right into the trash. The agencies for that matter are supposed to act like a filter that send out a pitch.
These days additionally to agency stuff they might expect you to have some sort of following on social media, but thinking about it if you have that you don't really need them. At least if you're not literally trying to get a movie made by a studio. One of the business models for novels is to write one book, then write a second and give out the first for free. Then you write a third and give the second out for free. If enough people like it you might get picked up. See The Martian for example.
Hey, you don't know if his last name ends in -stein or not.
THIS
all the fucking larpers ITT saying literary agents and agencies and producers
ffs they're all stuck in the 80s
all the major rising cinema artists and writers today are making things themselves, outside the studio system
open your eyes and make use of the technology available
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FATHER
Son, how are you holding up? Have you
applied for the jobs I showed you in the
papers?
is honestly right, getting into the studio system now is either you have a connection or prior work (either a novel writer or feminist journalist) - you cant just submit shit and expect anything back, studios increasingly just mandate a script and farm it out to someone with a proven record
The guy used a semicolon to assert dominance; so he must know what he's talking about. Only good writers use semicolons, em dashes, and oxford commas; which I just did - that must mean I know what I'm talking about.
>using hindsight
>not judging the script and writing, or even the movie, by itself
Next you're going to tell me Transformers 3 is good because it made tons of money, and some studio paid big bucks for the script.
You can't use semicolons for dependent clauses. I'm not that guy, but get dabbed on son.
Honestly, why do you want to be something which you're not, depending on some dying industry to give you a push. If you want to write you do that and become a writer, don't just dream about it. If you write shit, which is part of becoming good eventually, it's just that. If you do good you publish your work on your own, start a podcast (I know), and go outside of the swamp. If it's good enough it will make a honest livinga and you'll keep your integrity. But either way if you're actually what you claim you are you'll get by somehow. But it's a thing you need to keep doing and just having one work won't sustain you forever. It's a job. Keep grinding.
Who gives a shit you autist. Like, what is the benefit of knowing all the rules and having nothing to say? Using a semicolon is just petty posturing. Do you seriously think a semicolon is difference between getting picked up or not? Sure, that guy's story is lame and was done a 1000 times, but he sure knows how to use semicolon. Hire him!
Truth is, no fucking school will teach you how to actually write beyond formalities. So you come out of school with all that neat punctuation skills and end up being a fucking buzzfeed writer punching out headlines like: Trannies are powerful - here's why that's a good thing! Or some shit like that. Fuck you, fuck your semicolon, shove them up your ass! Write your stupid novel about that aging hipster the world doesn't get but becomes the next Steve Jobs after inventing the electric unicycle. Fucking cunt.
At least that's my humble opinion; what do I know...
>Doesn't take the time to learn the craft
>Doesn't even learn industry standard formatting
>REEEEEEEE FUCK YOU REEEEEE I BET YOU'RE A SJW
Listen you spasticated chucklefuck, if you don't bother polishing your shit to a standard then don't GET in the industry. What, you think because you're a maverick you can dazzle people with your hot opinion and presence? you think any studio commissioner would look at your smeared faeces on paper and say "Why this gentleman is the berath of fresh air the world has been looking for! Shelia! Cancel my 2:30, I have to meet this man!"
Here's how it works. If you write a cover letter that is one thing out of place, you get shitcanned. Too long? Shitcanned. too short? Shitcanned. Left out one single detail they specifically asked for? Shitcanned. That's even BEFORE reading the content. If you can't be bothered to put the time in and work out even formatting, which is the most basic of requirements, then they will have no intention of read your work because there's a thousand before and after you who can follow basic, simple submission instructions on a website.
But hey, that's why you're such a raging success in your field of expertise, right?
What's the purpose of spelling words, or knowing words at all if you have nothing to say? You might as well grunt your ideas.
Grammar is important for communicating ideas clearly and succinctly, especially if they are complex. Grammar is logical, aesthetic, and not just a "formality."
You can't be a good writer if you don't love language, and understand its proper usage.
If you write a cover letter with fucking semicolons you get canned anyhow. Ever seen a semicolon on a fucking cover!? All it signals to other people is you want to use semicolons when you shouldn't. Ideally you should be able to write in a way that doesn't need any.
Wow we got the next Samuel Beckett over here!!!
Haha! Take THAT syntax!
I'm not a writer though. But as a layman I figure language is just the vehicle you use to transport your vision, it's not an end in itself. If you got some dude who's in love with words best you get is James Joyce maybe, as in pretentious horseshit. You won't be writing a Tale of Two Cities neither and if so nobody gives a fuck. Especially with script writing presumably, considering it's supposed to be on point. What I'm saying is that using semicolons and whatnot is a symptom of trying to fluff up your shit when you should be boiling it down.
>Joyce is pretentious
>but Tale of Two Cities, "paid by the word" central, is a good example of writing
>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE SEMI-COLONS, I AM THE MASTER AND JUDGE
>but I'm also a layman!
jesus, make up your fucking mind
I get your point, but basic shit like knowing when to put a period, and if you got a run-on sentence is very basic shit. It doesn't hurt to have and understand all the tools in the box, even if you don't use them.
What if you have to write a character that's is educated, like a doctor or a lawyer?
Admittedly, sometimes screenplays have grammatical errors for effect, not because the writer doesn't know the difference. To assuage your concerns, semicolons are rarely used in screenplays, but do appear a lot in journalistic writings.
Fair enough. Just of the ranting is banter anyhow and even though I get why there are rules, that guy imho was just posturing.
I'm not sure if even a lawyer would talk in semicolons, albeit in the courtroom maybe. Or it would be unintersting, at least in my view.
In terms of scripts I'd say they will be get worked over and over again anyhow. A semicolon you could fix but structure not so much. In terms of journalism I think that's often posturing as well, like a style over substance matter. Honestly most journalists these days probably don't deserve the title anyhow. Again, I get it needs rules, but then I'd rather take simple clear cut yet truthful english over some verbose dishonest horse crap.
As layman I'm serverly irritated by the devoling nature of modern corporate professionalism, or rather it's emphasis on some formulaic draw by numbers attitude that somehow that somehow ends up in cascading levels of hubris and dishonesty.
I seriously believe the average plumber has more to say than the most of the above mentioned professionals, but plumbers don't get encouraged to produce art normally and that said formalism has a double function to keep the outsiders out and obfuscate what's really going on. Not the semicolons themselves but the whole prentiousness complex of the modern mainstream media with the gay glasses, the vocal fry, and all that other empty posturing.
Do people not use oxford commas naturally anyway?
>good at writing in general
Everyone thinks they're good at writing. There's a ton of idiots out there pushing scripts. But if you want to get into screenwriting, you need to get your name attached to a movie first and get your name on imdb. You got to get out there and meet people who are also in film making, and make friends with them and help them out. Usually, universities have film students who want to make movies, and you can get in on the action by offering your services. That might mean writing a script but it also might mean editing scripts (script doctoring) or other film making tasks. If you have stories, you should find a publication that prints similar stories, and submit your stories to them. Again, universities have students printing 'zines that you could submit to and get in. You can also run a blog and try to develop an audience, then self-publish a book. Really, it's just all about making connections and getting your work out there. It's a hustle.
It's an em dash (or long dash). They have two uses. First, they're usually used to mark off additional information that's not necessary to understand the sentence. They basically replace commas, colons, and semicolons in some cases (like for parenthetical phrases). The second use is how the OP has used them, where they're used to indicate pauses in speech and interruptions in speech. It's kind of similar to an ellipsis (...) in this case, but the two get used in different ways. Like, if you're trailing off, you use an ellipsis, whereas, if you get interrupted, you use an em dash. Glancing at the OP, he uses right sometimes and wrong other times (EXAMPLE: "The SLIDE BOLT NOISE suddenly stops -- along with the FLASHES, casting" really should read "The SLIDE BOLT NOISE suddenly stops--along with the FLASHES--casting" but also English is a living language and nobody cares if you fuck up, they just change the definition to literally if we literally use it wrong enough).
In spoken word? Don't know, but I doubt it. I think written form the oxford comma mainly is to keep enumerations neatly seperated, when they should be. Like if you write 'Peter, Angela, and Martin' it's meaning might be different than 'Peter, Angela and Martin' implying some sort of connection when it's not there. Not a native english speaker though, so I could've gotten it wrong.
Post a script
Write a novel faggot
Take the most feasible one and film it.
I have a dynamite live-action re-imagining of “The Last Unicorn” completely fleshed out, but know in my heart of hearts that it will never see the light of day.
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