Germanfag here. I feel ashamed of how this country seems completely incapable of producing any form of mentionable cinematic art. All of German cinema/tv is completely mediocre garbage. Worse, it's pretentious and arrogant garbage. The best of German cinema doesn't even approach a mediocre to bad Hollywood movie, yet somehow film people in Germany are incredibly stuck up and feel like they are some kind of auteurs because they learned to do a 3-point light and have the intellectual capacity to film a dialogue from 4 angles for intercutting.
I don't know why, Germans are really good at a lot of stuff, but they completely fucking SUCK at filmmaking. Everything about it is so fucking joyless, formulaic and forced it makes me depressed. When I was younger, I wanted to go to film school, but I was kind of disgusted by how elitist and indoctrinating it is, where you basically get glorified for doing some kind of black-and-white 16mm student film about some poor homeless minority losing a leg in a cold winter night or whatever, but when you actually think of doing something fun and aspiring to do cool videos/movies like Hollywood, people will scoff at you like you're primitive or accuse you of being too ambitious, as if their horse shit was any better.
Even worse, German film people seem to be ridiculously uneconomical. They will have all kinds of ideas of what you just *HAVE* to spend money on, due to wanting to look "professional" and/or laws and regulations, to the point where you spend thousands of EUR for a single day of filming where you could have done it completely for free and somehow everyone ends up believing it's some kind of thing where you need 50k budget just do to some stupid short film and otherwise you can't, holy shit how retarded.
The mere idea of visiting film school here, or worse, working in the industry, is more like a nightmare than like a dream.
Germanfag here...
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tl;dr
german expressionism is my favorite of the early film movements, Run Lola Run and Downfall are p. good.
Aye, Tom Tykwer is a bit more "experimental" compared to most stuff, but even his doesn't convince me. Run Lola Run also seems like a cheap knock-off off The Fifth Element to me.
Like he tries to do something fun, but the German "heaviness" just defeats him, dunno how to say it better. Like Elizabeth Warren drinking a beer trying to look cool and hip.
I don’t know what you’re on about Hans because it’s true, nobody even knows about German cinema. That being said, there is simply no way it is worse than America. Maybe from a technical standpoint, but our writers rooms are like pro-choice activism rallies and our industry is basically a propaganda factory for communism and every movie that actually makes money is some stupid juveline CGI action movie.
I’m a fan of history and so I know about all sorts of amazing true stories that would make amazing movies. There’s this story about a peasant who becomes a knight and saves a princess from a castle that is at war with his lord and he manages to work everything out and marry her and it makes the two lords stop fighting and they live happily ever after; it’s like Romeo and Juliet but real life. Is there a movie about it? Nope. Hundreds of stories like this in history, Hollywood just wants to tell the same damn juveline plotlines from a female writing staff whose purpose of making movies is to portray the world in its ideal rather than portraying the world as it is and using that as an argument for your ideal like an actual good writer would
German film is dominated by tired old failed leftists who want nothing but more films depicting the same old boring stories about the capitalist bourgeoise nazis destroying their dreams. They hate beauty, they hate entertainment, they hate fun, they have nothing new to say about anything.
Could be worse, you could be known as the one country that won an oscar for a movie about a tranny
>pic related
>not kino
nazi fuck
>Run Lola Run also seems like a cheap knock-off off The Fifth Element to me
What? Why? Just because the chick has dyed red hair?
Don't worry friend, Rammstein put out their new single which is highest kino
Nice blog, schwuchtel.
Das Leben der Anderen was kino
Uwe Boll is a god.
Fuck you faggot go back to Turkey Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter and Babylon Berlin were better than 99.98 percent of what Hollywood has produced ever
Digger, das unterstreich ich zu 100%. Der einzige, der was zustande bringt bei jedem dritten Anlauf ist Akim. Gegen die Wand kann was. Aber es ist bizarr. Keine Ahnung warum es den Deutschen partout nicht möglich ist, was Gutes zu produzieren. Ich mochte Dark, da haben die Jungs und Mädchen was zustande gebracht, aber insgesamt - Wüste. Traurige Nummer.
I liked Berlin Alexanderplatz
You're saying this like this isn't the case for other european nations, or hell, the world in general
Modern cinema is dying
>there is simply no way it is worse than America
That's where you're wrong. Germany has just as much stupid messaging, but without even compensating for it with technical expertise like Hollywood
Plus, I'm mainly talking from a younger perspective when I still wanted to be a film student. Back then Hollywood was pretty okay, not propaganda everywhere. And Germany ... well, it was the same shit it is now.
That actually sounds about right desu
Rammstein is kino, but Rammstein is music. I dunno why, but in terms of music Germany does seem to have some skill. Maybe because it's cheaper to produce and doesn't force the whole film industry hierarchy on you?
France had some nice stuff and I'm sure some other countries too.
With that said, the reason it's more surprising with Germany is that it's one of the wealthiest most industrially successful nations on this planet. You would expect them to have a booming film industry full of cool stuff, but nada.
Isn't Germany's film industry getting more attention now due to Deutschland 83/86 and that German Stranger things stuff?
Spot on, mate.
i get what youre saying but you shouldnt aspire to hollywood crap beyond i guess having a big budget
The Baader-Meinhoff complex was kino
That's what happens when you kill all the jews and gays.
>germans don't make ki-
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Not just german film though. Our whole fucking demented boomerist society is like this. God i hope things get better as they die off
German here, I totally agree with you OP.
>goodbye Lenin
>der Untergang
>das Leben der Anderen
>das Boot
Watch more films huso.
you ready for some of the finest CGI kino?
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germany doesnt direct, it produces.
marvel films are financed by Babelsberg, like half of HeiligHolz movies nowadays.
>goodbye Lenin
ossi garbage
>der Untergang
muh ebil crazy adolf
>das Leben der Anderen
ossi trash
>das Boot
Mediocre and overrated.
>Digger
Hurensohn.
Gegen die Wand war gut, da stimme ich zu, Dark war absolut unguckbar.
Ah you got a good one in there at least. More than most countries can say.
kriecht
basiert
t. Kapitän Hahnrei
looks comfy
Hast keinen einzigen dieser Filme gesehn du hässlicher Hurensohn.
You forgot Vilsmaier's Stalingrad which is essential blackpillcore
>this is the average german Yea Forums poster
huh, how about that
Pre-war German expressionism was kino, but the film industry changed after the war. Maybe there was some Nazi-era kino, too, but we don't get to hear about that, for obvious reasons.
There's still some big German films, after the fact, like Das Boot.
The German creative spirit was altered from the occupation, and this extends into the continental academia at large. It's an restriction against expression. However, this seems, interestingly enough, more potent in modern times. Given films like these:
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The same malady of expression is the same one all western countries suffer from: Postmodernism. American cinema is broad enough that not everything is about this, but German cinema is more narrow and has less money, so you either get
>cheap action schlock
or
>arthouse
And the arthouse drama stuff, like you mentioned, is eyerollingly leftist dribble that doesn't speak to the human condition, or steeped in Postmodernism.
And I don't mean postmodern, politically, I mean postmodern in the more original literary sense. Postmodernism, shit as it is, did produce at least some interesting and unique stuff in the early phases, and here and there. But it's run its course, and has nothing new to say. It's dry as hell. I think we're all seeing how vapid the fundamentals of the postmodern movement really are. It's soul crushing to be immersed in, and it's intellectually hollow, giving a generation of hacks the delusion that their """subversion""" somehow relates to the human condition, rather than being egotistical contrarianism. And I think it's more readily apparent in the continental European cinema, right now, because it runs on """art"""" over spectacle compared to American, Indian, and Chinese film industires as a whole. Probably due to the narrow scope and budget.
Das liegt daran das DE die Filme für die USA finanziert du Lappen
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Got a question for Germanbros. I'm moving to Berlin next September and i was curious about the piracy laws in Germany.
Will i need a proxy to safely pirate my stuff? How much fine will i have to pay if i got caught or someshit? Also how many grams of weed i can legally carry on me?
Niederster Plebejer
At least you beat Bollywood kraut
Toni Erdmann (2016)
Wild (2016)
3 Days in Quiberon (2018)
Licht (2017)
Der Hauptmann (2017)
Victoria (2015)
Als wir träumten (2015)
Richtiger Niedrigaufwand Trollpost
Begehe Suizid
All I can think of when I think of modern german cinema is wetlands.
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Rammstein - Deutschland was produced by Specter Berlin.
Specter Berlin is basically Aggro Berlin.
Eric Remberg (Specter Berlin) is more or less french.
Everything is "rap", "hip hop" and far away from the ^^^german^^^ Film Industire.
Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter was pretty good. The ending where they all met up in the bar wasn't much to my liking but seeing the older brother looking like a wreck when he met his friends again was pretty good.
dunno about weed but nobody gives a shit as long as you don't smoke it on the streets.
i don't use Proxies but i don't torrent. I got my ass sued for torrenting once. Now i only download via r/megalinks (reddit but i think it's down now?). My friend uses mygully of boerse or sth but most stuff on there is in german i believe.
Never been caught in 15 years
A friend had to pay like 100€ once because he pirated some shitty pop song
>Aggro Berlin
>more or less french.
>one of the most important german rap labels was fucking french
kek
Good, keep in mind that Berlin is more than Berghain, m8. Just saying.
>Will i need a proxy to safely pirate my stuff?
Always.
Er hat aber Recht, du Arsch.
blame Hitler for losing
torrents are not worth the trouble, get used to one click hoster
Goebbels and Leni, now that was German kino
I'll just get a cheap proxy fuck it. I can't live without my torrents.100 euros is a fucking retarded amount for piracy tho.
How poor are you
My god dude just type in movie title+Stream into google or use r/megalinks. not hard
It's not about the money m8. I'm 28 years old and i never bought anything digital in my life. Why would you waste your fucking money on stuff like TV show when you can just get high with that money.
Also most of the stuff i download is pretty much impossible to find otherwise.
>this thread
>these awful posts
This is the future of Germany.
nice false flag
>Why would you waste your fucking money on stuff like TV show when you can just get high with that money
So the actual answer is "below the poverty line"?
>125x82
you deserve it
thumbnails are the gifs of images and therefore the poor person's choice.
t. Hurensohn
I blame Hitler for starting shit
Not even the wars, but his hunts against artists and scientists, as well as his censorship policies started a huge braindrain in german sciences, entertainment and arts. Say what you will about the Weimar Republic but it was great when it came to these categories.
Goodnight mommy and wetlands are good though
German movies are the worst. Its so bad its not even funny. Even Austria and Italy have better film culture. I think part of it is the way german film financing is structured and part is german mentality.
Superstau
Bang Boom Bang
Soloalbum
Herr Lehmann
All fucking kino.
Im Austrian and you have no idea what youre talking about.
What does that have to do with anything? I'm German and I couldn't name 5 German movies off the top of my head cause I just don't care
>Herr Lehmann
true
true Kino
Isn't that subreddit down now? You have to use snahp.it now, the forum has closed its registration for now. No ETA on when you will be allowed to make an account but you can still use the other snahp.it website
>The Golden Glove / Der goldene Handschuh
>imdb.com
>8/10
It has its kino moments but gets repetitive toward the end. Gf said the movie is for intellectuals who want to be wanking over the idea of being better off than lower classes and so on. I'd say it was a decent watch.
>I'm moving to Berlin
Bad choice freundchen
I'd move somewhere else, or at least to Potsdam, if i were you
Berlin is fine, the only place you can't have brown people anywhere these days is in some fuck off village
Thats because youre a literal Hurensohn.
>Elyas M'barek
"Nein."
I always wondered how do you guys explain or view WW2 in German schools? Do you guys just say we fucked up, do people feel uncomfortable about talking about what happened?
>My country has shittier cinema
>No, my country has shittier cinema.
Stay humorless, Krauts.
Verpisst euch nach Kohlchan, scheiss Almans.
Thats a Germanic virtue. Not being a fat fucking piece of shit living in delusion.
You fucking serious dude? We learn about how the Nazis took over and the rest of the war
Did you expect us to quietly skip over the entire subject?
>Almans
>Kohlchan
What's that?
Go fuck yourself
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Eh, Der Untergang was pretty good. Also, for what it's worth, Heidi was a good for kids.
Türke detektiert.
I don’t know, I know you guys aren’t going to skip it, I just wonder if you guys feel uncomfortable when you talk about it or just treated it like something horrible that happened once
You people are retarded. By the way empire of dust was made by a German.
You're only good at making industrial machines.
Even you cars actually suck.
>treated it like something horrible that happened once
This one
Do you feel uncomfortable discussing slavery?
I recall Schimanski being pretty decent back in the day.
If there a black person in the room a little bit
Well, I don't have anything to compare it to, but yeah, the history is taught. "we fucked up" isn't said, now that you mention it, because I think it's treated like "those people" weren't really "us". I would say it was treated relatively dryly overall and most kids probably don't care much for history and neither did I.
I think there's a lot of virtue signalling around it tho and lots of indoctrinated memes and beliefs that we get taught about "Nazis" and "Neonazis", and of course there is the obligatory watching of movies about that kind of topic along with the moral lessons or whatever.
With all this said, while there isn't much "dramatic" type of teaching around the subject, or at least wasn't in my experience, I would not say that there was a lot of balance in the sense of considering both sides or whatever, it was pretty clear - as far as I even remember, I really didn't care for history as a kid - that Hitler was the bad guy. I remember we were learning about some kind of "Dolchstosslegende", but I don't even know what that was about anymore.
But the thing is, I can't even tell you how much of that is just "normal" and how much is stronger due to it being Germany, because I have nothing to compare it to really, as said initially.
That's interesting, where I'm from, the public education system likes to call whites racists because of something that happened in our recent history - no nuanced consideration of the scope of the issue, just a dismissive 'you are racist, this is how they suffered'.
Deutschland 83 was ok
Das Boot is supposed to be pretty good...
errrrm...
Klar hab ich den dreck gesehen du ausdünstung. War alles scheisse bis auf das boot, war wie gesagt aber auch nur 5/10.
Die einzige hure die ich kenne ist deine zahnlose mutter.
That sounds scary. But I went to school in the 2000s, and from back then to now all this SJW crap has severely increased in strength I think, so arguably it might be worse now than back then.
forum.snahp.it thank me later
How do Americans learn about the lost Vietnam War?
It's pretty much the same
I went to school in the 00's-'10's
I wouldn't necessarily call it SJW here, moreso just blatant government propoganda to demonise their political outgroup.
i was taught we won that
I once went to a Roland Emmerich masterclass and he said very similar things. You and him are both based.
don't bother, OP must be trolling. Shame really I was beginning to like this thread.
OP du musst mehr Edgar Wallace Filme gucken, die sind absolut basiert, am besten mit Kinski.
They never mention the attempted communist coup prior to NSDAP gaining power.
They never go in detail about the Weimar Republic and how it fucked everything up worse than anyone could imagine.
Then they quickly go over WW2 but never into details, large part of the lessons is focused about >muh holohoax and human soap and jewskin lampshades, shrinkheads and usually accompanied with a mandatory trip to Buchenwald or some other Holohoax kike museum (and you/your parents pay for it).
you did win it. you just got out of there because at the time you didn't know how close you were to winning
But they do
t. gymi in NRW
>Amerigods
>losing wars
ohnonoNONO HAHAAHAHAHA
> ignoring this german masterpiece
Bist du dumm oder so?
I love Angst Essen Seele Auf and the movies of Rainer Werner Fassbinder in general. I guess it's not "Hollywood"-like. It's a realism in his movies that I like much more than the hightened realism of the Hollywood-era that you are propably talking about. I guess as in any art form there's different styles and schools perpetually passing one another. After a few movies of "muh realism" with shaky-cam and "let's try to make this fight scene look realistic á la The Raid or John Wick", there is a counter-movement, maybe more of an interest, for stylistic films, like crouching tiger hidden dragon. I actually hate seeing Fuck Ju Göthe for the third time more than some artsy-fartsy student film. And believe me student films in the USA check all the same boxes that you describe, it's not just Germans. I don't think German filmmaking is as bad as you claim, maybe you just haven't found a filmmaker that makes exactly what you would like.
sure, never lost a battle but the red flag flies in hanoi
Bekommst Köln-Kalk Verbot.
Endlich normale Leute!!!