I mean... he PROBABLY didn't do it

I mean... he PROBABLY didn't do it.

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he didn't.
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MUSIC MAN MAKE MUSIC THAT MAKE ME FEEL HAPPY

HE ALSO SAID KIKE IN A SONG

THIS MEANS HE NO MOLESTED KIDS

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I'm not a fan of people just presuming these things and thinking that passes as a guilty verdict. And whatever might have been the case with this guy, can't say it changes the way I hear his music, or lessens its importance for pop music.

I will say though, not that it matters, but I think he probably did do it. I used to think he was a gay ephebephile because of those old clips of him holding hands with 14 year old boys, and while that was shady, well, it's not really so different from the behavior of every rockstar ever and probably most old Hollywood actors. And that's just teens, whatever.

But I will say with these pics with him posing with much younger boys, and the way he presents himself in those pics, the way his vibe is... yeah I think he was into them. I don't think people saying "of course someone is shady, look at them!" is a good argument because it's just demonizing the strange or other or whatever sometimes but from my read of bodylanguage and presentation, yeah I think he was probably into them. But my thinking that is not a guilty verdict so that doesn't really matter and my only assessment of the man is on his artistic merit, which is profound, so shrug.

the strange or *Other

Other with a capital O

eff pee bee pee

It's overwhelmingly likely that he did unless you're so far into the land of cognitive dissonance that you have a summer home there

>me trust movie cuz of pretty aerial shots and music

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I'm not saying there's proof he did it, we'll never truly know what happened, but you must be a real believer in coincidences to think he's totally innocent

Reminder that the only posters that "believe" he did it are just trying to own the libs epic style considering the vast majority of lefturds believe he's innocent

I'm an unapologetic leftist and he obviously did it

He was investigated for over a decade and they still couldn't find substantial evidence. He's innocent.

I don't believe he was attracted to little boys.
I also don't believe he was attracted to women.
Rather, I sincerely believe this nigger wasn't attracted to anyone or anything at all.
His brain was so fucked that it turned him asexual.

I don't understand that camp themselves into some fixed cultural-tribal position and then try to perceive where they're supposed to stand on things based on that. And it seems like some people, idiotically, as with so many things, want to turn the issue into some cultural battle. I think I'd agree that documentaries are not satisfactory replacements for due process and the impulsive stances people take on twitter are often hysterical and destructive, but one can think that and not necessarily presume that every issue doesn't have some truth to it at times. I have no interest in the culture war insinuations made by idiots online though, or any culture wars.

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Yes they did. No he's not.

[citation needed]

There is no political correlation but if you really want it, it's more likely it's the right defending him and left accusing.

reminder that Yea Forums pretends he's guilty solely to own the libs epic style

No, it's fans defending him and everyone else accepting that he more than likely did it

Can you imagine how jealous all the normal pedos must have been?

*rusty van pulls up*
>Hey little fella, want a green lollipop?

VS

*limo pulls up*
>Hey there buddy, wanna race giraffes?

There's a bit of both, and then assholes that just fan the flames either way. But as with nearly everything it's not a left or right issue (even 'left' and 'right' issues aren't left and right issues, they have no consistency or coherence and constantly flipflop).

Anyone trying to get a read on whether they're *supposed* to take a position on this or any other matter based on what their supposed political affiliation is is a complete moron and asshole.

Nah, he's a child molester. How you gonna have secret double locked fuck closets all throughout your house if not to molest children?

The KING of pop

I'd say I'm a fan of his music, and I think he probably did, but so what? The founders of western philosophy fucked boys too and we're not going to throw that away based on that.

>vast majority of leftards believe he's innocent
Can't say I expected that. I can't believe I'm about to type this, but BASED liberals

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JUST TO PROTECT AGAINST BURGLARS AND SHIT IT'S COMPLETELY INNOCENT DELETE THIS REEEEEEEE

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In other words, they're separate spheres. Art is its own sphere. The quality of the person has no bearing on its quality or value.

Everyone with a brain knows he did it and that goes for libs and cons

Almost every sentence of this meme has been repeatedly debunked on this board, might wanna lurk moar

>tfw you present documentary apologists with cold hard facts and they immediately resort to personal attacks
HEE HEE

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No they don't, 'leftists' these days are constantly waiting to be informed every day on who they're supposed to hate and there's scores of them on twitter being all "Michael? UGH".

But no that doesn't make Michael suddenly right wing.

Right and left doesn't even factor into the reality of things. It's a completely false binary exploited by cynics.

You say that like it means something

I'm not a fan and can still recognise the lack of proof. Innocent until proven guilty. Provide evidence to support the idea he did it.

I don’t think he did it. I’ve known asexual manchildren before.

My problem is that the people who believe he didn't do it are basing that solely on the fact that they don't want to believe he did it. Not that people still like his music. It's just like when people said OJ wasn't a murderer because he was good at football. I have nothing against football but that shit is psychotic. If you wanna accept the truth and still listen to his music and you justify that as separating the art from the artist, I see no problem with that. It's not like he's going to profit from it. And his family shouldn't suffer for his sins either.

>hmmm... people seem to think I like bees a lot...
>I know what'll thrown them off my tracks!
>I'll just take up beekeeping!
MJ is innocent and you're a literal fucking retarded /pol/nigger if you believe otherwise

>tfw these "cold hard facts" are not presented with a shred of evidence and are basically just the die hard fans of a pedo warping reality to suit their needs
also they always resort to ad hominem first

HEE HEE

/pol/eddit is defending him because he said kike in a song once so he's LE BASED XD

I'm just basing this off of my POV where I see people with strong leftist views vehemently defending the man.

yeah reddit, known for talking about kikes.

he did that shit

Fuck off. We stand by Mike against the kikes on /pol/.

>/pol/ is defending him
My nigger the majority of /pol/ claims he did it, surprisingly enough it's the libtards that are defending him. Why do you think 60% of Yea Forums claims he did it? Because they wanna troll the libtards epic style

you're a moron

>My nigger the majority of /pol/ claims he did it
This literally isn't true

>Innocent until proven guilty
In a court of law, yes. But when the only way to explain all the allegations and strange behavior is by assuming it was all some coincidence or misunderstanding, you're utilizing cognitive dissonance. The dude slept in a bed with underage boys and had the hallway to his bedroom rigged with alarms. If you think that's innocent you're just deluding yourself, but that's very separate from whether or not a conviction was warranted. That has a lot to do with your legal team.

why are pedophiles and fags always named Michael?

>molesters are people who don't behave like molesters, if someone is behaving in every way like a molester that means they aren't because that would be too obvious
What the fuck are you talking about?

MJ was innocent. He himself was the victim of Hollywood child grooming and invited kids over because was protecting them from abuse. Everyone just assumed he was diddling them since they were basically whored out by their parents and that was business as usual. Mike just wanted to be their friend and protect them from harm. MJ's dad and probably some of his older siblings were the real child abusers. This is why fellow victims like Culkin and Feldman are on record defending him. Mike was a poor wounded soul, but he was a good man.

MJ was becoming too powerful (buying up rights to music and films and making large investments) and was openly against a certain aristocracy that runs Hollywood, and was 100% against the sexual abuse of children (because he had lived it first hand as a child entertainer). They first tried character assassination with the trial back in the 00s, then they killed him for real, now they are raping his corpse. Had he lived a few more years he would be teaming up with Chinese investors to break the Hollywood hegemony.

The real question is: why are they bringing this up again now? It's more than the families want money and attention, since they were all coerced and blackmailed into testifying by their handlers. I sense that some interesting revelations are going to be revealed about major Hollywood insiders and may serve to inoculate the public. Like with Weinstein, it is probably to pin everything on one man and promote the view this is some grave exception rather than as the rule of Hollywood (except MJ is innocent.) It also serves to intimidate victims from testifying unless it is against an approved target, and finally serves to scare off any wealthy insider who dares challenge the power of Hollywood. Sending the message “Not only will we kill you, but we will rape your legacy.”

>I gave them hot milk, eat some cookies...

Piss off schlomo

>falling for this

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>asked if he sleeps in the same bed as children
>admits to it with no hesitation, says he legitimately didn't see anything wrong with it
You'd think a pedo would try to cover his tracks as much as possible... really boggles the 'ol noggin

>He himself was the victim of Hollywood child grooming
>MJ's dad...the real child abuser

You're half right.
(Subtle hint: Old Joe used to beat the fuck out of Michael for the smallest mistakes)

actually they were coerced and blackmailed into not testifying, also it makes sense that people deluded enough to think he's innocent also think that his death was a conspiracy of some kind.

Ask your parents

MJ was just weird to a fault. It's natural to assume the worst even if it wasn't the case.

those two guys are the most unbelievable "trauma victims" I have ever seen

you do realize it's actually extremely common for abuse victims to become abusers themselves? The vast majority of people who molest children were molested as children, this is common knowledge

they didn't even cry though

Tons of pedos hide in plain sight.

Just look at european cinema.

Except they aren't lying though.

only if you watch it with a bag over your head

I remember his brother saying that Joe would drag Michael off to Hollywood parties at night and bring him back the next day. Michael would look totally defeated and refuse to talk to anyone. Just locked himself in his room for days and wanted to sleep.

proof?

>My problem is that the people who believe he didn't do it are basing that solely on the fact that they don't want to believe he did it.

I'm sure that's the case with some of them, but not all. I think others realize (fairly) that there are a lot of litigious, predatory people out there, sleazy showbiz parents etc looking to exploit him... and I'm sure there *is* a lot of that, and that point shouldn't be disregarded. It's even (some) possibility that's the case with the guys on this new doc. But it's also possible that Michael did it.

People tend to go too far one way or the other. Either they realize that there are victims in the world but maybe sometimes go overboard and see vicitmization even where it isn't happening, or you have people who realize there are a lot of sleazy liars and sociopaths looking to get money off of people, but then stick to this argument even when real evidence is there against the accused.

Another big mistake I think is that people base too much of their positions on whether they like Michael / his music or not, or are invested in it. That shouldn't factor into it. It's like people have too much of a need for simplicity and congruence... if they like music then they need to believe the musician is a good person. Maybe, rather, they should just accept the dissonance or complexity of a world / reality where you can like the product but not the person, or vise versa?

It's similar with political positions. Always sticking with your team. If you're on Team Woke, then you have to stand with Jussie. That's ludicrous. Or if you're more traditional conservative, thinking that means you have to like Trump. Arguably a lot of conservatives should hate him.

Tribal politics is pointless.

I sincerely don't believe MJ was sexually attracted to anyone

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>bad things happened to MJ so he couldn't have been a bad person
nigga are you serious with this shit

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That was debunked like 16 years ago. Yes getting molested works kinda like vampirism. But the majority of pedos were born with the urge to rape.

They are PROVEN fucking liars. What you saw was acting. Their non-verbals do NOT indicate real trauma but a mere imitation of it.

>MJ was innocent. He himself was the victim of Hollywood child grooming and invited kids over because was protecting them from abuse.
I keep reading that theory. Where did it come from?

Pure conspiricybullshit. Get a grip, man. You're saying all that shit as if you actually fucking know anything.

Why exactly is everyone so bent out of shape about MJ lately?

>t.
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>Tribal politics is pointless.

It's strategic.

I'm James Safechuck, and I'm not a fucking liar. I have video proof of Michael molesting me.

It's bad strategy because things continually flip flop and noone is in such a knowing and omnipotent position to exploit it with any real effectiveness or lasting impact.

I've never been the biggest fan of his music, but I can acknowledge he was extremely talented. I DO think I'm able to divorce myself from that and assess his guilt. But no MJ fan would ever believe that of course, and it actually is somewhat true that they have more at stake than I do because they've invested so much more in him than I have. In general though, people have this habit of believing they know a person simply from their image and celebrity status which is a completely disingenuously cultivated thing that is the product of corporate think tanks. None of us know what MJ was really like. I base the likelihood of his guilt solely on the fact that I find very little credibility in the theory that all of his behavior and all of the extremely incriminating things we know about him were entirely, universally the product of coincidence and smear campaigns. I could *maybe* buy it if there was evidence of similar smear campaigns in the world, but there aren't. When the FBI raids your house, it's because they're pretty sure you did it. And they found all kinds of horrific stuff, but because none of it fits the strict legal definition of "child pornography", they dismiss it entirely rather than acknowledging the extremely troubling nature of a great deal of what they found.

lets see it bb

>James Safecuck

Yeah and why did you not use it in the documentary to prove your testimony?

I don’t think Michael did it. A genuine pedophile wouldn’t go out of his way to do incriminating shit like that.

Quincy Jones interview with him was like an interview with a naïve child. Not a monster.

>Accusers Wade Robson and James Safechuck both previously swore under oath that their relationship with Jackson was never inappropriate or sexual

That is a huge part of Leaving Neverland, it's basically what the entire second half is about. I don't even need to keep going down the list, MJ defenders confirmed for having not even watched the fucking thing.

[citation needed]

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everyone is up in arms about the Leaving Neverland documentary even though it was obvious he was guilty way before that and all the doc did was put the squeeze on people who have maintained his innocence

>behaving like a pedophile is evidence that you are not a pedophile
This is the dumbest thing anyone has ever said

BASED
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>This guy was accused of robbing a bank. He bought a Maserati soon after the robbery. But a genuine thief wouldn't go out of his way to do incriminating shit like that, he's probably innocent
This goes beyond mental gymnastics

of course he did you idiot

>pedophiles act like children
lolwut lolwut

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The thing is he was a real lightning rod and really was in the position to have people constantly coming from every direction trying to get things out of him. But that said I think he was way too fixated on childhood too. In some ways I think that was non-sexual, and something that one might pity and not necessarily judge him for given his own unique experience growing up. Which is one of the reasons so many people give him the benefit of the doubt, and there is a reasonable argument there. And given how weird he was I'm not surprised people wondered. But for me it's the way he posed in those pics with certain boys that has a body language to it that suggests that he saw them as his lovers. So while I am willing to consider the "he was just weird / stunted" argument to an extent, I become more skeptical when it comes to those cases.

Burden of proof is on the accuser, cuck.

>I could *maybe* buy it if there was evidence of similar smear campaigns in the world.
What do you exactly mean by that, That there are not campaigns to falsely accuse famous people apart from MJ?

believing that you rigged the hallway to the bedroom you were sharing with underage boys to protect yourself from home invaders goes a bit beyond mental gymnastics too

>Even a heavily sedated MJ talks about how he wishes he could do more to help children.
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>"That will be remembered more than my performances.My performances will be up there helping my children and always be my dream. I love them. I love them because I didn't have a childhood. I had no childhood. I feel their pain. I feel their hurt. I can deal with it. Heal the world. We are the world,Will you be there,The lost children. These are the songs I've written because I hurt. you know I hurt."

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You act like it’s not a big deal though.

I have always thought the "he was just weird / stunted" argument was something his fans told themselves.

You idiots keep saying that like this is a court of law. It's not. You can't use the argument that it's common sense that he was guilty in a court of law, you absolutely can in the real world.

certainly not this uniformly specific or constant, most people who want to rip off a celeb know there are much easier routes

It wasn't in the documentary because it's child porn. I can't post it here either, sorry guys. But I assure you Michael Jackson molested me and I have it on tape.

I find it very easy to believe that they were coerced, bribed or even blackmailed into it. False testimony is a thing. I find it much harder to believe that all the shit MJ was doing was completely innocent.

Some people are just really weird though, it doesn't always mean they're monsters. And these days there's the situation where more and more people are stunted growing up and staying in a kind of perpetual adolescence. Michael had kind of an extreme version of that. But that said, Michael had sleep overs with 7 year old boys or whatever so I don't myself just see it as him merely being weird. I don't necessarily read his other more superficially weird qualities as being part of those possible issues though.

But I mean I happen to know a lot of people in the arts community and artists, particularly the extremely gifted ones, are just by nature very very weird and often perpetually childlike. Michael though was more extreme and in certain troubling ways.

I'm not trying to prove he did it because I'm not a prosecutor. It's just really obvious that he did if you have any common sense.

Formerly Safesneed

He was behaving like a pedophile.

I AM OF THE OTHER OPINION

HE PROBABLY DID DO IT

*HEE-HEES YOUR PATH*

post your favorite MJ song

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>Why do you think 60% of Yea Forums claims he did it?

Contrarianism. How'd you arrive at that 60 per cent figure, anyway?

>much easier routes
For example?

And I find it very easy to believe that, now that he’s dead, they can make bank by dredging it all up for the Netflix generation. Funny how that works.

guesstimation DESU

I think he fucked McCauley Culkin. The others, I'm not so sure.

>scrolls through thread
>not a single SHAMONE post

wtf?

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What is this psychosis where society needs to have someone to demonize?

>h-he just had the mind of a child guys!
>like Peter Pan r-right!

I think it's obvious what MJ's best songs were, but they're so obvious that people don't say them. I don't think his minor hits or deep cuts are as good, especially if they're slower and in a major key.

It's not just about law, but critical thinking skills, of which you two brainlets have none. Correlation does not equal casuation. It is MADNESS that you believe them merely because they spoke it. Even more maddening is that these two accusers assertions continue to disintegrate the deeper we dig. To claim "common sense" in these scandals is absolutely dishonest. Please, do the world a favor and carve out your neocortex.

Based

Of course they did. But it's also true that he's very obviously guilty.

I dunno, what is this psychosis where society defends celebrities even after it's really obvious they did horrendous shit?

And yet when put to the courts they found the opposite when provided with far more evidence than some sad men telling stories over sombre music.

I'm really getting tired of saying it. He slept in a bed with underage boys. He had his bedroom rigged so no one would catch him doing anything in there that he didn't want people to see. That alone suggests with overwhelming likelihood that something very very wrong was going on. The endless allegations and the undeniable utter believability of the documentary subjects and the incredibly detailed stories they told is just more fuel for the fire.

and OJ was acquitted for killing his wife.

it's hilarious that you idiots say you have the law on your side like that actually means anything. they get it wrong all the time.

and OJ's lawyer was Michael's too lol

Getting tired of saying it? Good, maybe you'll shut that stupid fuckin mouth up. Neither you nor they can prove anything he is being accused of. Also, the dress was blue and black, fucktard.

The OJ and MJ cases are completely different and (you) know it. The glove didn't fit because itt was soaked in blood. Had the glove never existed and the murder never happened, save for the testimony of proven liars, then it'd be like the MJ case

False equivalency but ok.

I’m glad you find it all hilarious. I wish I was as easily amused and entertained as you, sincerely. Sadly I like to read around on topics and educate myself on them instead of blithely accepting the simplest most easily digestible morsels handed to me

It is more than clear, coupled with sites like reddit.com/ that Michael Jackson was a negroid, pedophile pederast.

While the more common opinion is, even on boards like /pol/, that Michael Jackson was a victim of some sort of Jewish inquisition and was just living his lost childhood again: it is clear that he was sexually attracted to young boys of caucasian descent.

Michael Jackson was not sexually attracted by all children in general: he found girls and females disgusting and negroid children were also off-limits, similar to the habits of serial killers and serial predators also have a preference on how they choose their victims.

I personally feel relieved that this "troubled pop star" passed away by overdosing on sedatives mainly meant for race horses: the world has one less negroid pedophile raping young, caucasian boys.

>But, if you're thinking about my baby. It don't matter if you're black or white

But this did matter to Michael Jackson how he chose his bedfellows. You had to be white. You had to be male. And you had to be between the ages of 6 - 12.

>all this new evidence brought to the table and not just regurgitated opinion enforced with the mating call of the greater spotted brainlet, “I think it’s clear that! I think it’s clear that! Clearly! Clearly!”

Thanks for posting, chum

Reviewing tapes twice over a ten year span is very different than what you're implying .

IN AWE AT THE SIZE OF THIS LAD

ABSOLUTE UNIT, SIMPLE AS

NORF!

fpbp

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HE TOTALLY DID THO

*SHAMONNNNNE*

ANYWAY HE WAS A MUSICAL GENIUS AND IF A FEW KIDS GOT MOLESTED THATS THE WAY THE COOKIE CRUMBLES

SOCRATES FUCKED BOYS WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT

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>supposedly telling the truth
>keep lying

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>you do realize it's actually extremely common for abuse victims to become abusers themselves? The vast majority of people who molest children were molested as children, this is common knowledge
first of all it's not true
and it's harmful victim-blaming

>But the majority of pedos were born with the urge to rape.
sexual attraction is not the same as "urge to rape"

CAM ON INGLAND
IT'S CUMMING OOMMMM

ENGLAND! SHAMONE!

SCORE SOM FACKEN GOLS!

does somebody has the apu version of the he cute/smooth criminal? if so pls posted

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>I find it very easy to believe that they were coerced, bribed or even blackmailed into it.
Do they claim to have been coerced, bribed or blackmailed? I haven't seen the documentary. This seems like a crucial point to me in this matter. If someone makes a statement under oath and then decides to say the opposite, I expect that person to explain they were coerced or bribed or blackmailed when they made the first statement. They can explain they were under pressure even if they are unwilling to name the criminal behind it, as long as they try to explain themselves. So did they explain that that were coerced, bribed or blackmailed? Since you name all three possibilities I am getting the impression that they did not attempt to explain themselves.

based and cutepilled

wade robson said he was at a dinner and saw MJ drinking heavily and stated that he would feel bad for his kids if he went to jail and that's why he testified. that dinner took place after the trial however

safechuck said MJ begged him to testify and was angry when he refused but safechuck was forbidden to testify by the judge so that doesn't make sense. scott ross, a PI who worked for MJ during the 05 trial, also said this was bullshit

he face fucked dem keez

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Cant think of any motives he'd have to constantly talk about philanthropy for children . No other pedophiles have (Savile) done that! You see he built a theme park at his house and scouted for talented young children to protect them only!!

HEE-HEE did it

HOW THE FUCK DID HE JUMP UP THERE

BUNCHA KEEDZ LAUNCHED HIM WITH A TRAMPOLINE?

IMAGINE BEING ONE OF THOSE LUNATICS IN THE CROWD TEARING THEIR HAIR OUT
JFC PEAK NPC

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He didn’t do it

yeah but you know what I bet he did

So no reasonable explanation why they did a 180 on their stories and even the unreasonable explanations don't fit with the chronology or basic facts?

Werid memories of being sexually abused didnt remain clear to this day. Too bad tho, typically you can trust eye witness accounts and memory to remain 100% accurate decades down the line, damn shame.

>it was real in my mind

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I'm happy he fucked a bunch of kids. That just increased the likelihood to be able to use his shitty music in a movie for cheap in the future.

Anyone that refusing to accept that he was a kid-diddling faggot has a psychotic disorder.

I don't give a fuck who he screwed...Off The Wall is one of the greatest albums ever made

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>In a court of law
In basic human interactions, innocent until proven guilty is literally just basic burden of proof, you accuse him of a crime, you have to prove that he did it, because you can't prove a negative.
You may be confusing it with beyond a reasonable doubt, which is indeed a very specific court standard among many, but innocent until proven guilty is the standard for everything if you're not a fucking retard.

Even if he didn't do anything explicitly sexual (he did), he abused those kids

>middle-aged manchild constantly invites little boys over to his place for sleepovers and dumps them when they get too old. Confirmed to have books of boy models and is an all-round nutcase

Yeah, totally not a pedo. Fuck off.

retard

Thriller > HIStory > Bad > Invincible > the rest > Dangerous

The doubts you are asserting are nowhere near reasonable.

Not an argument.

>When they get too old

Like how Macaulay Culkin replaced Robson like they say in the documentary? Only too bad that Culkin is 2 years older than Robson.

Wrong.

His underwear were covered in semen. His semen.

He had a pretty extensive pornography collection.

This connotes an interest in sex at the very least. At worst, he used the pornography as a tool to groom adolescent bois.

>they cried on camera! Why would anyone lie about something horrific???

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Way to miss the point. "old" is a byword for "no longer at their peak youthful appearance". MJ didn't go for ugly kids. And the kids he did choose were dumped when they lost their boyish looks.

Who cares nowadays? He is dead, you know.

The alleged victim's testimony crumbled in court under basic questioning. Forget 1993 case, Waderobsen and Dangersneed. If you can't atleast admit the 2005 allegation was bullshit, then you're absolutely delusional and willfully ignorant.

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KEY FACTS ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON

-HES DEAD
-HE MOLESTED DEM KEEDZ
-HIS MUSIC WAS GOOD

THAT ABOUT COVERS IT

neither is your post.

SOCRATES...WAS A CAVEMAN

>were dumped
proof?

He did not do it because, I like many other average iq people, enjoyed his music because it was popular. This made him world famous. People who are world famous and make music I enjoy can not commit crimes.

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Way too derail a discussion. But yeah, let's discuss your definition of cute boys you fucking paedophile. Gavin Arvizo yeah? Dave Dave? Emmanuel Lewis?

where there is smoke...

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This is Yea Forums, every retard will act like they know everything.

nice strawman you retarded phone poster.

>nice strawman you retarded phone poster

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youtube.com/watch?v=5X-Mrc2l1d0
youtube.com/watch?v=pEEMi2j6lYE

They all suck

Even if he did. It wasn't to LeChuck Or Robson.

trash taste

t. soiguzzling npc boomer

when people in this thread say "he obviously did it" they never actually give a compelling reason or example why.

t. buzzword spouting retard

people do, you just ignore it and find your own bias.

give me your single best piece of evidence

t. soilent drip iv having old man

LETS JUST SAY I'D BE FUCKING SHOCKED IF HE DIDNT

THIS ISNT A COURT OF LAW ITS PUBLIC OPINION AND HE GUILTY AF