I know Burton's 89 Batman was meant to be a serious break from the 60's series (which is what most people at the time knew of Batman outside of comic circles), but I can't help but see how bloody similar they are!
Take this sequence. The art Gallery scene has tons of dutch angles, and feels like it could be taken right from the Adam West show:
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Yeah, Batman 89 was the movie that kicked off the return of the dark Batman image (actually this was first sparked by Frank Miller comics) and the entire trend of Warner-DC sticking to grimdark / edgy branding, but it was still really cartoonish and fun.
I think it's probably the best superhero movie ever, next to Superman (1979).
Also, it's striking how compelling Michael Keaton is in the role. He's really a fascinating person.
Wtf is a dutch angle, and why is it a thing if people shit on it all the time?
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Angled cameras. Gives a wonky, or absurd feel to it. Can be used for horror as well. Overuse became a cliche and annoyance. It's a tool that has its place.
First movie with Jack Palance in it. Didn't know who he was until later.
It held up really well, rewatched the dark knight returns and this recently and it was no contest which was more enjoyable to watch.
It was meant to be a darker take on the Adam West Batman.
Yeah in hindsight it was somewhere between dark Frank Miller Batman and Adam West Batman, but at the time it just seemed like a total departure from the colorful, happy Batman.
>doesn't know based Jack
I was like 5 at the time. I didn't even remember any of the first act of the film, since I typically skipped forward on the VHS to the 2nd and 3rd acts.
Batman was turning dark in the 70's already, but the Frank Miller stuff made it take off rapidly with everything else. 70's Batman brought us Bane, Jason Todd, killing off KGBeast, and many of the newer Arkham inmates.
1989 and Returns have the best aesthetic of any Batman feature, it's a crime that we didn't get a third Tim Burton directed film.
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It's faux 40's that makes it really cool. Lots of art deco, 40's fashion. Yet modern cars and everything else, putting it in the 80's.
I'd love to see a full on 40's style batman series or movie done in live action.
The animated series as well as the Brave and the Bold are a lot like that but I agree, a full on Golden Age detective Batman would be excellent.
I remember being alive in the 80s, and when Michael Keaton was announced as Bruce Wayne, we were all like "WTF????". It seemed like a horrible choice for Batman at the time, but i think a lot of people remember that movie for the way Michael Keaton surprised a lot of people expecting him to be a horrible Batman.
burton fucked up that cut with the rembrandt painting
watch battlefield earth
He was seen as a comedic actor, and he had just done Beetlejuice, where he's this manic goofball. It seems like Keaton would seem to work better as the Joker.
(Aside, an alternate universe where he plays both roles would be amazing).
I preferred Nolan trilogy, Mos and bvs to this movie and to the comics
You could've just said you were diagnosed as clinically retarded instead user.
Yeah, it was a good mix of art deco, gothic, and german expressionist motifs.
It felt film noir, there just wasn't a femme fatale.
the script had a lot of people excited but burton blew it
Well that's the point. It's a wink toward the show. Also the Joker can never be a completely serious character fundamentally. Fucking simpletons
That’s hot fresh opinion there.
>DUDE WHY IS THE JOKER BEING FUNNY
fucking imbiciles
reminder that the no kill rule was never a thing in the burton films and he kills people in both. one example is how he blows up a factory full of people
>just sits in the dark in his manor until he sees the signal
It just took the sixties show and made it sex for 80s audiences. Just like any reboot.
Button is mostly a hack and he had no understanding of the comics as stories. That's why the avengers did so well. It finally took it's source seriously.
It was successful because it was a well made film...just a button twist and lots of notes on what not to do. Comics we're getting big in the 80s so it just tapped the market without being what fans wanted.
>reminder that the no kill rule was never a thing in the burton films and he kills people in both.
He seems to adhere to it at the beginning, trying to save Joker, and merely knocking out others or incapacitate them. Then later on he starts to kill more. 2nd film he just slaughters anyone he comes across.
Complaints we're a lot less loud and organized then plus there were a lot less man children who cared or gave a damn. Another aspect of whites not having kids. They take their never born children's youth but I digress.
You'd talk to immediate friends or read about it in a magazine newsletter. Maybe Dave letterman made a joke.
Now I could spend hours online researching opiniyns or shit posting about meaningless crap like snyderverses and captain Marvel's feet.
The amount of raw data out there on anything is insane. The internet hasn't really made us smarter, just louder as a species.
guess that explains why i dislike comic book movies: the source material is garbage.
grant morrison is alright though.
>70's Batman brought us Bane, Jason Todd,
BANE?
>first appearance 1993
Jason Todd's death
>1988
>the script had a lot of people excited but burton blew it
Fuck off Hamm!!!FACT!!!
I'd argue the best aesthetic of any comic adaption ever
didn’t he just knock him into the vat?