Thoughts?

Thoughts?

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Huge disappointment besides Lupita and Winston's performance. Everyone says the third act is weak so I won't detail my problems with it, but for me I was just bored that the 2nd act was just them running around and killing each other in bad action scenes. I kind of wanted some more depth and slow build up like Get Out.

Anyways it really lessened my hype that Peele is in any way a competent director or writer, I wish he would just do comedy.

Better than Get Out

Nigger

literally full of plot holes and conveniences one of the worst horrors going

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I thought it was really boring.

Looks like Get Out was a fluke

as boring as get out, unfortunately

My final opinion is that Jordan Peele can write a functioning script but he’s so obsessed with metaphors, symbolism, and allegory he sacrifices the story. We get it man we all took English 101. But when the story is full of plot holes, that’s the sign of a lazy writer. How do clones survive on rabbit without succumbing to protein poisoning? Why did the little girl not simply WALK OUT like her clone did after being unchained? Where did they get water? How did two clones make the same exact offspring? And why would the government leave 300 million people within tunnels? A lot of idiots are saying to “ignore” this and focus on the metaphors, symbolism, allegory, but a movie isn’t a POEM, and shouldn’t be praised for it. It is a visual medium.
I’ve written stories where I’ve run into the trap of having some super deep bullshit but it fucks with the entire storyline so I just get rid of it.
The first rule as a writer is “kill your darlings”, and Peele hasn’t realized that. He wants his cake and to eat it too. He wants his commentary on race/class relations but also wants to make a horror movie, and his commentary superimposes the medium here.
The golden rule of storytelling is that it comes from character, and if you didn’t care about the characters or their arc, but are obsessed with Easter eggs and references, go ahead, but if this was our metric of value Ender’s Game would be in the Criterion. Literary TOOLS are just that, tools to help us understand the characters, it should not supersede good character.
In Breaking Bad, each character wears a color associated with their persona. Walter wears red when angry, in his Heisenberg state. The director deliberately did this, but no one praises Breaking Bad because of the color palette of what the characters are wearing do they?
Tl;dr It’s a nice to try and make your movie three layers deep, but if the first layer isn’t worth my time, why should I be concerned with the others?

Was really good until the clones showed up.

Watched it for the first time about an hour ago. It was wank.

The movie is stupid and I expect more stupid movies made by this stupid man

He had so many scenes where he could’ve added more tension. Have the son killed and have his doppelgänger take his mask and ride with the family, have the white family killed OFFSCREEN, so when we see Lupita and the family run for help, they meet the silent doppelgängers having dinner or something, dressed in normal clothes, the bodies out of the way. Have one of the family members notice yellow scissors in the background. IMAGINE THE TENSION, THE POTENTIAL HE WASTED.

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This

The black flag shirt and Jaws shirt was so jarring. Some symbolism and referencing is cool but it literally felt like it was a film made for the kind of people that like to watch youtube breakdowns of films they think are "deep"

Good:

+Acting
+Script

Bad:

-nigger music
-script
-plot completely shits itselt and doesnt make sense in ant way, shape, or form
-cultural cancer, only has rave reviews because North America worships black mediocrity

>Good
>+Script
Meant directing. The movie looked good.

It's shit. You are supposed to care for the main characters, not hope some nigger get butchered in the first five minutes.

>why are they "tethered"
>why does everyone mirror everyone above when clearly theres never enough room
>why does surface girl simply not walk out
>what was the plot point about the coincidences that gets dropped
the film is chock full of all this shit and never keeps your attention

Exactly. My girlfriend went on a YouTube marathon of US explained, and I had to yell at her to use her headphones I’m trying to sleep.

>How did two clones make the same exact offspring?
Bingo

*rabbits screaming*

hehe down le rabit hole alice XD

This man has a really good point

>Tl;dr It’s a nice to try and make your movie three layers deep, but if the first layer isn’t worth my time, why should I be concerned with the others?
bro you just BTFO Peelefraud

Peele came across the word "symbolism" in the dictionary and had an orgasm.

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Are you black sir? If so, howd you like to be a film director?

>How do clones survive on rabbit without succumbing to protein poisoning?
seriously? that's your problem with your film?

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Did anyone find it scary?

Absolutely not.

>I’ve written stories where I’ve run into the trap of having some super deep bullshit but it fucks with the entire storyline so I just get rid of it.
Why do you lie on the internet, user?

Dude, just turn you brain off and enjoy the allegory. Stop caring about the details and background and just let yourself get wrapped up in the emotion.
Why do artsy fags always say this shit? The same for Interstellar.

Kind of figured it would be pretty fucking stupid when every reviewer bent over backwards to say 'You need to watch it for the big picture, not the little details.'

Translation:This plot is so hole ridden and stupid if you actually try thinking in this movie you'll hate it, but we can't say that, so just turn off your brain and try not to think about it afterwards or anything in it.

Peele, bringing the 'smart' cinema.

Protein poisoning? Seriously, that's what you're concerned with? Not even arguing the other plot holes of the film. But fucking protein poisoning, for fuck's sake. If it depended on faggots like you, there wouldn't be films like Die Hard.

I GOT 5 on IT

Okay forget about pretain and defend this:

I said I wrote stories, not published. It’s not that hard, you just need a computer screen.

What problem is there in Die Hard? Be specific if you're going to bring it up.

No, my problem with the film was outlined in the big paragraph you forgot to read. I know protein poisoning may seem non essential, but if it were why are soldiers told not to eat rabbit?

WERE AMERICANS

The funny thing is I am, but I’d just like to be thought of as someone who appreciates good movies that respect my intelligence.

It was serviceable but massively overrated. But I guess that if a movie was made by a black person with a lot of social media social capital and features a split diopter shot, then it's a cinematic masterpiece

Shouldn't most of them have died trying to eat nothing when their tethered counterparts were at a table anyway? What, did the fucking rabbit just walk in the exact spot where a fridge would be an die via proxy from an imaginary microwave?

That’s the whole irony isn’t it, they want to think they’re so smart because they can find Easter eggs or whatever, but immediately tell us to turn off our brains.

I watched this a few days ago and I realized if Peele directed it itd be seen as a master class in suspense and tension and be much more popular than it is.

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>we want the mantan audience
Say no more famalama

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Serious question

Would this movie be better if the protagonists were white?

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Wasn't the reason real Adelaide couldn't just walk out as a child was because her doppelganger wasn't going back there, and she still had to essentially follow her lead?
Seems like doppelgangers can only do things differently than their reflections when they're interacting with them.

He could’ve made this super easy and said they just came from hell or whatever idk but he needed the “muh gubmint abandoned certain classes”

Just want to let everyone in this thread know that the government put fluoride in our water

Although I agree with everything else said, I'm assuming that the children were cloned as well. Probably at birth.

It was good, miles better than most shlock that gets passed of as horror movies. But it has obvious problems and I really hate twists that have no effect on the plot.

Adelaide says that she had to perform a c section on herself. If your theory is true, why would they have them cloned but not help take out the baby?

It's scary if you're not an intentionally jaded teenager like everyone on this board. Anyone who's either a kid or a parent would rightly be scared by it.

Good performances - the kids were actually good. Well shot and mostly well written.

Completely falls flat with the explanation and ending. Left the theatre with a "oh, come on, that's bullshit!" feeling

It's never, I mean never, a good sign when a character talks for minutes to explain something.

I feel like there's another version of this movie that condenses the second act and rewrites the third so that the family ends up in the tunnels figuring things out for themselves that's a lot more enjoyable.

>when they played "Fuck The Police" instead of anything by The Police because they had to appeal to low-income urban African Americans

>Have the son killed and have his doppelgänger take his mask and ride with the family
he has fucking burn scars on his face, you don't think they would notice that

“TAKE HIS MASK”

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Decent. Nothing really spectacular. Falls apart pretty badly in the third act. Good performances, competent direction, but a very slapdash story. Nowhere near as good a movie as "Get Out." This film absolutely did *not* live up to its hype.

I saw this movie when it was made with white people, it was called "The Broken" and honestly it was done better.

Instead of running are
Ound barefoot he could have cut the toes off terrorist she's for one.

shit.

Every Move You Make would have been perfect for that scene. Especially with the kids sneaking through the kids sneaking though the house.

I don't get why the original girl didn't just walk the fuck back out of the tunnels and into society? Unlike the clones, she knew there was an actual world out there. The parents mentioned that she was gone for all of 5 minutes, in which Red would have had to have dragged the original back to clone encampment, swapped clothes and then left the same way. The exit couldn't have been THAT far away. Am I really supposed to believe the girl decided to just live among the retards for 20+ years instead of wandering around for like an hour max and finding the exit?

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part of the story is that other than lupita's counterpart, the rest of them are dysfunctional and can't act like normal human beings...basically Yea Forums

>peele takes his revenge on Yea Forums's hating get out by making a movie about them

>6'7" terrorist with feet smaller than 5'9" Bruce Willy
ftfy

I've seen it twice and I think it's a masterpiece.

The trouble is it's an allegory, and worse a multi-layered allegory. So there's no point trying to explain it all here and dumb people can feel smart by pointing out that it isn't a realistic story.

It's another nail in the coffin of actually being able to discuss movies on Yea Forums that two of the handful of smart directors in the world (McQueen and Peele) are black.

I read the wiki summary, is it as dumb as it sounds?

it wouldn't make any difference at all except to the music choices.

it's unlikely race was even mentioned in the original draft of the script.

>I've seen it twice and I think it's a masterpiece.
>if you don't like it it's because you're racist
hot take

it's that any thread about it is going to get bogged down with racist posting.

it's possible to be smart and not get the film, but it has to do with not understanding the tone or genre context. it's a Twilight Zone episode or a pulp sci-fi magazine short story.

So it doesnt have enough depth or length to be a feature film and should be a TV episode?

>outside America it only earned $24m
kek

That would make sense if you didn’t see that one white lady trying on her human counterpart’s makeup. So they definitely can act a part.

If it really is an allegory and not just a mishmash of allusion then, by all means, please recount for us the allegorical meaning of the film for us 'dumb people.'

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I thought it was alright, but definitely disappointing from all the hype. I liked the moment when the shadows first arrived, because I feel like that was the only true "horror" sequence. The rest was just comedy, action and symbolism.

>it's unlikely race was even mentioned in the original draft of the script.

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I really enjoyed it. Top notch acting and it was actually scary. I think Peele improved from Get Out.