Seriously though, who'd win?

Seriously though, who'd win?

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>whoever wins.....WE lose

Goku against most iterations

based

goku could just suck the souls out of the planet to force supes to give up

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Superman, which is unfortunate because Goku is way cooler.

The Silver Surfer

Superman always wins

Trunks

Isn't that the joke? Vegeta's kid is the one.

Captain Marvel

superman's not really a fighter but he can absorb as much energy from the sun as he needs also doesn't need to breathe in space which goku (most of the time) does

>Superman is weak to magic.
>Goku is powered by gook magic
But he wouldn't kill him, he'd just thank him for helping him get stronger.

Superman because he's more iconic and also American. Only a treacherous weab would state otherwise.

No he isn't goku literally has a more boring personality than superman. He just likes to fight strong people.

>American
Then why won't superman release his birth certificate?

>implying she wouldn't go mad with power and go crazy, also lose all her hair... ALL her hair... pubeless mound ftw

>Captain Marvel
another Rogue's bitch

No. Superman's personality is way more boring.

MS Marvel literally got drained and fucked over by Rogue

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Goku

chi is not magic. it's the body's energy

superman of course, goku doesn't stand a chance in any universe

Why not just let One Punch Man do it?

At least superman knows what kissing is and isn't a drooling low iq monkey.

Yeah sure shooting out beans of your bodies energy isn't magic

You haven't read many superman comics. Some of them are far superior to dude strong generic villain goku has to fight.

superman isn't weak to magic. It just effects him as it would anyone else. Wouldn't auto kill him. Superman would still destroy black adam etc,

not diverse enough

>instant transmissions to planet with red sun
checkmate superfaggot

I really miss that suit Rogue wears. Marvel Comics probably has her in some generic cosplay gear and Disney Marvel will never have an attractive woman wearing something that makes her look hotter.

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Jiren negro

Goku’s a fag

Goku doesn't know his weakness and also he wouldn't be the type to exploit them

>chi
>magic
lmao. Supes isn’t even weak to magic

Shaggy

They make Goku way to retarded for me to like him. English version of him is fake.

So are both characters powered by bio-electric fields, or is superman a telepath

>Yeah sure shooting out beans of your bodies energy isn't magic
It’s not, considering Superman does that shit too

Supes is powered by the sun

>implying Goku would even know
>implying Goku would want to
>implying he wouldn’t bring him to a blue star to amp up Superman so he could get a better fight
you don’t even understand your own hero, pussy

Thats what king kai is for.
Fugg, just blow up the sun with a spirit bomb and wish it back with the dragon balls after superman is a weak baby.

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A telepath powered by the sun

Tactical Telekinesis is for SuperBOY

But the Spirit Bomb definitely is

Superman’s TK is powered by the sun

1st fight?
Supes
Sayains get stronger with near death experiences to eventually goku could win

>King Kai tells Goku to kill Freeza before he goes 100%
>instead he waits for Freeza to power up because he’s an autistic manchild
>even give him his own Ki so he could fight him again later
do you even understand who or what Goku is?

No, that's Batman. Superman gets his ass kicked regularly

me too

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Except he doesn’t have it. That’s been retconned and only happened in the late 80’s and early 90’s.

the spirit bomb is made of natural energy, like sunlight. In other words, what Superman is powered by. it’s not magic. Dende healing Krillin and Buu’s transmutation is magic

Superman would win.
Americans trump nips.

Her powers would not work on One Punch Man.

She would quickly go bald and then explode. Saitama would somehow misunderstand what just occurred and then hurry off to a sale he is late for.

saitamas powers are not mutant powers. Rogue cant absorb muscle structure

Superman is invincible
Goku has an infinite number of power ups
Everybody wins

Superman 1st round, then gokek pulls another new form/technique out of his ass and wins.

if goku has sharp bones he can win

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saitama power is 0 though, he cant kill a fly or a kitty cat because they have power levels of zero too

his ability is to be stronger to whoever he is fighting against

Based

>all this losers and their pathetics replies

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His ability is a sarcastic comment on The Good Guy Always Wins.

Trying to steal his power would be like trying to steal Squirrel Girl's comedic off-screen wins against titans.

they dont exist in realities with the same rules. Like if you were to be technical, Superman's skin is always hard but Dragonball characters have to focus energy to protext themselves. So if Goku wasnt in any Super Saiyan form I doubt his body would withstand any kind of punch from Superman, thats just how I see it. Seeing how Goku never starts out in super saiyan I think he would lose by underestimating Superman, like he always does in dbz.

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Everyone always forgets about the terrible 90's redesigns they tried to make supes fresh again.

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Yeah. And because they’re both fictional characters none of this means anything.

Mutant powers are just natural biological evolution. If she can absorb some random dude, she can absorb Saitama

Are you by chance Hispanic

No, I'm non-Hispanic white

Goku dies all the time

Ki isn't magic, retard.

>who'd win?
Superman. Because Goku won't cheat by using Kryptonite to beat him. Also they would only have a friendly fight and then work together.

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>implying Goku wouldn't want to fight Supes when he's at his strongest
If anything Goku would transport him to the center of a yellow sun and wait.

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The spirit bomb is just a collection of Ki from a bunch of living things. Both animal and plant life. It's literally just a super condensed Ki blast.

>Wow that made you pretty strong!

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What version of superman?
>Animated superman loses
>silver age superman is gurren lagann tier and kicks gokus ass with toon force
>Snyder superman gets ass kicked
Also not counting goku post buu because super is shit

Superman would just keep beating goku and not finishing him off because he's a good guy. But, goku would eventually just gain so much power from being on the verge of death so often, that he finally beats supes after five or six fights.

Depends on which version of Supes

Ultra Instinct Goku would flatten Nu-52 Superman
But the other versions of Superman are pretty much toonforce, he really can be as strong as he wants to be

Captain Marvel

>controlling metal with your mind
>turning into diamond
>turning into steel
>generating ice out of your hands
>dissappearing and reappearing someplace else
>all occuring after only a single generation
>"natural biological evolution"
not buying it

Goku, come on guys. Just compare the villains Goku defeats vs the villains Superman struggles with in Justice League or Superman TAS.

>MY STUPIDLY OVERPOWERED CHARACTER IS EVEN MORE OVERPOWERED THAN YOUR STUPIDLY OVERPOWERED CHARACTER
You guys understand this is fiction, right? They could make these guys as powerful as they want.

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>(((Superman))) is American

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The Eastern one is on point but the Western one you need to make more euphoric/fedora and self-consciously "edgy and complex"

Boy, you don't know nothing. That Jap thing is a cartoon. Superman's a real guy. There's no way a cartoon could beat up a real guy.

Muh dick

Goku. How the fuck is this even a discussion?

Right panel describes Captain Marvel my dude.

Goku can't even beat Vegeta. 2-0 and counting.

>Funi Goku
Ignoring this, who could make the other kiss their wife first?

>doesn't know how that IT works
This isn't an option.

Saitama, the One Punch Man.

UI Gokek heems Supes

It's actually stated in the 2003 The Question Series that a massive junction of Chi could kill superman. Luthor actually tries to weaponize Fung Shui on a massive scale to do it but the question stopped him before we could find out if it actually worked

Shazam Captain Marvel or Dyke captain MArvel

because Shazam Captain Marvel is based as fuck

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I don't think Supes would like canon Goku.

The only magical aspect being how it concerns itself with the target being good or evil. The technique was lacking in canon, but with powers exceeding the resources to draw from? A total joke needing 10 seconds for a small one.

Saitama is relativistic due to jumping from the moon to earth in seconds so no that slow ass bitch will never touch him.

It amuses me that AT had Krillin point out Goku didn't even use Kamehameha on Tien when it was repeatedly shown and stated Tien is immune irregardless of PL difference while using a Crane School counter deflecting the thing.

UI Goku is a multiverse buster thats beyond anything Superman Prime can do so Goku wins.

Which Superman are we talking about here? Prime? Pre-Crisis? Post-Crisis? Cosmic Armor?

>implying UI Goku wouldn't beat the living shit out of superman

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she only became a power character by permanently stealing miss marvel's powers dumbass

but he is an illegal alien

Superman would win because he's a cheater and Goku would eventually punch himself out against Superman's cheating battery power.

At their best? Superman. At their average? Superman. As a character? Superman. More popular IRL? Superman. Best single story? Superman. Highest feats? Superman.

...and it's not even close. Goku gets BTFO any day.

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Superman unless it's one of the ultra nerfed versions like movies or DCAU.

Really comes down to which version is fighting which version.

Live action, I'd probably give Cavil Superman the win vs live action goku.

Anime/manga wise you've got
>kid Goku from DB thatd always lose
>early to late DBZ movies Gokus thatd well possibly lose
>ssj2 and up level Goku where the power wank goes full retard and becomes a toss up
>Goku blue where the win favors him but still can be beat through bullshit shenigans because Goku is full retard now
>GT Goku that's in kid form most of the time and ssj4 form which is about up there with blue.

Comics wise you've got a retarded amount of various flavors of Superman with various amounts of powerwank.

Most versions probably about on par with DBZ goku up to the ssj2 and higher shit while the strongest surpass Blue and 4 in the bullshit power rankings

cringe

Blue isn't even his strongest form

Oh yeah ultra instinct, at that tier of retarded powerlevels you're pretty much asking who would move first if they hit each other, the Blob or the Juggernaut....bitch

>be superman
>family is placed in danger at the top of an infinitely high skyscraper
>fly to the top anyway, smashing through infinity floors

Goku cannot compete with current comics Superman, even with UI. For fucks sake, doctor Manhattan thinks it's theoretically possible that Superman could destroy him.

SS4 is the best looking form, most creative too. Really wish it had come back instead of Super Saiyan Recolor.

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Is Chi-Chi better than Lois?

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They've figured out that people WANT Superman to be OP again. Glad they didn't keep nerfing him like they did in New 52.

Shame they did that, then immediately gave BOTH BOOKS to fucking Bendis. Like holy shit, what a fucking step backwards.

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Supes always wins. But the truth is the two of them would have no reason to fight other than Goku wanting Superman as a sparring partner.

Superman could bounce back the spirit bomb

I want to absorb her titty milk

Lmao that punch wouldn't even touch Gokek. Superman probably could not even touch Master Roshi.

>UI Goku is a multiverse buster
Oh yeah. When did that happen?

Why is Bendis still a thing?

No, not at all. Chi Chis sucks ass

im not retarded so im not gunna stay in thread and debate

its goku and its not even close

SS4 actually looks like a god form. Those hair color changes are fucking shit

He's a self sustaining meme of disappointment and awful dialogue, no one has the balls to call him out on it apparently cause he had like one good run a decade ago.

Well I'm glad you're fucking off because you're wrong

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Me boy?

>implying it's not fun to talk about

White Anglo-Saxon Goku would mop the floor with Superman.

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>massive junction of Chi could kill superman
A massive amount of ki could kill any comic/manga character. Hell, Buu got vaporized by the spirit bomb.

Just normal Supes?

superman prime 1 million would irreversibly annihilate goku, even with UI

UI isn't all it's cracked up to be. Jiren was still able to hit him

Are there any good Goku Vs Superman animations? Only one I've seen was that butt ugly cgi shitfest DEATH BATTLE.

Jiren is stronger than Superman so its forgivable.

based.
Goku by the Saiyan arc would have manhandled Superman (minus Supe's near infinite durability). Goku by Cell saga would obliterate every "cell" of Superman's body.
Remember, a power level of 155 (Master Roshi) was enough to blow up the moon, and Goku in original Dragonball with a power level ~200 was moving "faster than the eye can see", furthermore 1500 power level Raditz dodged a move "faster than light", so when you consider the last known power levels of Goku/Frieza >100 000 000, then you just KNOW the Supes still jerks to the memory of getting raped by Goku.

Goku would easily defeat Superman. Goku always wins. However, Goku and Superman would be friends.

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SSJ4 is so aesthetic. So is burning eye angry Supes.

>Goku always wins.
Somebody didn't watch Super

None that I know of. There's the two death battles and they both look kinda shitty, though the seconds is better, a god awful """""""animation""""""" by mastarmedia and a metric shit ton of crap sprite battles, none being any good.

It's quite a shame nobody has done one with proper effort put into it. Kinda unbelievable considering how popular the debate is.

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Reminder: The J is NOT canon. The Japanese just say SS*. Don't be a spic, drop the J.

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Superman tanked a universal explosion that knocked him outside of reality and he wasn't even hurt. Super Saiyan blue hair dye are just glass canons

I completely agree with you. Even Yamcha is at planet-buster level. Even Yamcha could blow up the Moon.

Superman can't even fight Batman but he's in discussion against Goku? Give me a break.

>Implying Batman couldn't beat Goku

>Superman can't even fight Batman
youtube.com/watch?v=yTBVpyG1WFE

no she can't. If she tries to absorb a fraction of his power she would explode.

10/9 thanks for flaring up my autism.

Goku doesn't lose, like ever. He'd find some greater strength in himself and win.

Even if she did absorb his power he would still beat her with one pouch. He's a gag character. May as well be fighting fucking Droopy

>like ever
youtube.com/watch?v=djE_tkBACl4

>tfw if Chi Chi were my wife I'd have my shit together, whether I like it or not

That's what I mentioned in passing in my post. Superman's durability is insane, he can just keep taking beatings. It would take something that could completely obliterate every single one of his cells to kill him, which Goku can do (Kamehameha and Spirit bomb have both been shown to completely obliterate enemies cells).

>Goku doesn't lose, like ever.
Goku losses just as much as he wins. If he was a boxer his fight card would be pathetic

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don't be absurd

I feel like a brainlet for posting on this shit but if Goku has no access to Kryptonite (which assuming he doesn't if they randomly met and fought) Superman wins 100%

Like 4 seconds in and why did Batman roll out of Green Lanterns construct? Why is Batfag so fucking autistic?

Also almost all of them are biased as fuck for Goku.
Weebs really hate Superman for some reason.

>SS4 actually looks like a god form
*Blocks your path*
Seriously though, SSJG should have looked like SSJ4. The idea of a saiyan with a tail and having master SSJ is really good, but those nu-gooks can't comprehend what is epic.

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Goku can literally destroy the Sun, so that bitch Superman would lose his power.

Superman has literally punched with the force of infinity, Gokek will never beat him.

it's a literal interdimensional war against fucking Darkseid
its important to stay on your toes and be ready for action at all times

>J
Stop posting.

based tardku

You didn't think very hard about your post did you? I'm not even going to call out how stupid it is. I'm going to leave you to figure it out

You are correct. Fuck Superman.

>The Chad Aryan Goku
>The Virgin Kike Superman

GOKU FOREVER!!!!!!!!!

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Hapaman the unstoppable incel.

Superman could lobotomize Goku instantly with his heat vision through the eyes and since it isn't Ki Goku wouldn't be able to sense it

>Sneak up behind him
In the first season at least, no-one got a shot on him unless he wanted them to, he instantly finds Sanic and dodges him.

Goku's not Asian, though. He's an alien (Saiyan) from Planet Vegeta.

Loli Chi-Chi is so cute.

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>checked
That's a bummer though. So let's focus on what we do have. What's your personal hypest moments for both characters in official animation

For me
Goku
SSJB x10 Kaioken
youtube.com/watch?v=SxlaQKLcQFs
Kamehameha Vs Galick Gun
youtube.com/watch?v=Ilzm8K-AfGs

Superman
World of Cardboard
youtube.com/watch?v=Cl_5UwS57X8
FUCKING MONGOL
youtube.com/watch?v=4ISr6OtItYA

Checks out

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Superman vs Shazam youtube.com/watch?v=JHqw4U0ARzc
Goku killing Piccolo
youtube.com/watch?v=wdylynNTaI4

kino reference

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She's got nothing on Pan. Pan is the thinking mans fetish.

>personal hypest moments
Good question. For Goku, I agree for sure with both you posted, they're great. The first SS3 and SS4 transformations, as well as the dragon fist used in GT that wrapped around the whole city. When Goku threatened the supreme kai: youtube.com/watch?v=-Jh-6zMI_8w

Fucking Kino.

As for Supes? Yeah both of those, too. Supes saying goodbye to his son in the mongul influenced dream, I think was from the same ep as that one you posted. Literally any single scene from the Fleischer series. They don't make animation like that anymore.

youtube.com/watch?v=dDMQ3tXNKgM

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calm your autism weeaboo

Suku? Kakaman? Super Rot?

Pan is cute, but Loli Chi-Chi is cuter.

Do you know where you are?

>he's a DB obsessed spic
>posts in Yea Forums
>calls others weaboos

It's been solved years ago.
Superman reached his final power with absorbing sun power.
Goku has no power limits. Theoretically goku would win.

>Pan is the thinking mans fetish.
Pan is a funny way to spell launch

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Yeah she's up there, too. Angry women make me go full caveman-rape mode. I always forget about her...though I'm not the only one.

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God the Fleischer series was great.
>Hey, Bob, we want you to do a Superman Cartoon. Here's infinite money for you budget.

>increasingly nervous clown looking over his shoulder for his Prince

The weeb move is making the mistake of putting the suffix in the abbreviation.

The real weeb move is getting upset over someone putting in or leaving out the J.

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>Launch was the real first Super Saiyan

>sneezing causes heart to skip a beat
>"Bless you" because of how close to death you get
>Launch is secretly saiyan
>each time Launch sneezes she gets a zenkai boost
I think you might be onto something.

Superman. Dials go up to 11.

Superman wouldn't allow (((Goku))) to fully power up. Plus most versions of Superman would trick Goku into not fighting anyway

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I'm not saying Goku has any pullitzers, but Goku made kids ya know, and he's married.

Clark Kent is an urban city person and votes Hillary, the rural Goku with no college education votes Trump.

I think it's dumb to argue about power levels. It's all about martial arts and techniques. Goku easily outmatches Superman. He's simply a more capable fighter.

goku has actual magic powers now so he wins

>Clark Kent is an urban city person and votes Hillary, the rural Goku with no college education votes Trump.
I am missing the sarcasm here? Honestly asking, cause Clark spent the first 20 or so years of his life in the fucking american farmlands, doesn't get more flyover than that. Literally Kansas. Raised by two good Christians. He's a good, god fearing man who has a wife and son, he deliberately moved from the city to raise said son in a more beneficial setting, the rural countryside and working on a farm.

You have no idea what the fuck you're on about.

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Gag characters/toon force trumps all power level bullshit.

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Why would they even fight? Aren’t they both the Earth’s protector?

Superman, against most iterations

Odd thing to say. If Goku's Japanese (I always assumed he was) he probably doesn't care about any politics except his own country's. Probably not even those considering how carefree he is about most things.

>Goku blows up the sun
>Superbitch is now powerless
gg ez

And gets stronger because of it

You weaboos are pathetic. Have sex

DBS Goku is a universe buster. This isn’t a what if future scenario like Superman 1 Million, universe buster is the functional strength Goku operates in for the entire run of DBS. Superman doesn’t come close to that kind of power.

UI Goku lost the beam struggle to Jiren, in terms of strength it isn't amazing, but in hand to hand combat it would fuck up Supes

>all these non-readers talking about Superman like they have a clue what his comics have been about

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looks like someone just needs a new WAIFUUUUU HEHEHEHEHEH FUCK FACE I WIN THIS ROUND

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True, Goku would probably instant transmission both of them to a planet with 8 suns just to fight Supes at his best.

Goku has UI which negates all attacks regardless of speed or strength, Blue form which grants him universe level strength, instant transmission which grants him ftl travel (but not ftl speed), telepathy, telekinesis, and wound regeneration in god form.

Superman has infinite strength, the ability to perceive at or near the speed of light, near ftl speed, and endurance from all forms of attack beside kryptonite weapons and magic.

I think at peak, goku negates superman at best. The problem is how can he mortally damage superman? I think UI + blue can land some blows that'll definitely hurt him, but not to the point of beating him.

>Goku has UI which negates all attacks regardless of speed or strength
But that's completely false. Both Kefla and Jiren were able to land hits on him, though Kefla only technically. UI is overrated, I really wish you people would stop jerking off to it so hard.

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Superman literally struggles against lots of people like Lex Luthor and Batman, non-powered humans, you think he can fucking beat Goku?

>implying Lex or Batman couldn't beat Goku
Either of the two would kick his fucking ass.

Underrated answer

No, it is not adhering to grammar rules like a retard.

He wouldn't be able to do this. The universe proper is not tiny like DB. He has to sense ki to IT at it, too. Most worlds and such will lack life.

pic related can easily rekt both of them

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Normally I'd say Superman simply because he's basically a deliberate incarnation of a 12 year old's OC who's invincible and immortal and can do anything, but with the more recent shit Super has churned out I'm not so sure anymore.

>Superman has infinite strength

Superman needs to be near a yellow star to gain super-strength (if I remember correctly), so no, his strength is not infinite by any means. And Goku is not vulnerable to green rocks, unlike Superman. lmao

But couldn't he use a ki signal from King Kai (or one of the other Kais of Universe 7) as a homing beacon for his Instant Transmission technique?

Light is too slow to hit Goku.

why is ger allowed to be so fucking strong
nothing else in the universe even comes near

If she was able to absorb his power, if even possible, she would also absorb his depression and boredom. That alone would negate any benefits.

he doesn't have any powers though, he's just an average human that trained

there is literally nothing for her to steal

>If Goku's Japanese (I always assumed he was)

Goku's not Japanese, he's not even human. What the fuck are you even on about?

In his cartoon fights Superman is slow as fuck so I'll give this to Goku

Also it always baffles me how some american anons take regionalism so far to the point on hating a cartoon for being from another country.

Chi-Chi is MUCH BETTER than Lois and Chi-Chi's pussy is FIERCE.

Does he have a birth certificate? Have mr. and mrs. Kent ever properly clarified to the authorities where this 'magic baby' came from? Because it sounds like he is an illegal alien.

Superman has flown trillions of times the speed of light after hearing a watch signal through space millions of light years away.
Superman has held black holes in his hand.
Superman has lifted a book of infinite pages and eternity, both of infinite weight.

Goku can barely lift 40 tonnes in base form.

Why do you weebs keep arguing over this? Goku isn't even more interesting. Vegeta is the only interesting character in DBZ, and DBS is as bad as dragon ball heroes for terrible writing.

*jobs to lex Luthor*
oh no no nonono

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How would Goku even win against Doomsday if all he knows to solve problems is to fight it out?

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Then how does he always struggle to beat an average foe in every issue of his comic and has to rely on other heroes from the Justice League to help him sometimes lol

How did Superman lose to a big strong dumb guy like Doomsday? lmao

By getting exhausted to death the first time because fighting Doomsday isn't how you "beat" him.

This.

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>Superman has flown trillions of times the speed of light after hearing a watch signal through space millions of light years away.

I guess if authors can just make retarded/nonsensical shit up then I might as well create the most OP character ever right now.

>he can teleport to anywhere he wants on every dimension/universe
>so fast that he can move the speed of whatever character challenges him, but double
>strong enough to bend over Superman like a bitch

because he did what he always does. he punched him REAL hard, except that time it only made doomsday stronker

>Guy who only gets stronger when he's defeated vs guy who only gets stronger when he's defeated
Divide by zero, the universe is destroyed in the process.

my niggers
super saiyan god/blue dont even make sense from a design standpoint.
ss1 - 3 had his hair get spikier and longer and with god he just goes to his normal hair and blue his ss1 hair again
it doesnt progress anymore

Nor a single episode of Dragon Ball for that matter, considering how many times Goku has lost.

Let's be real Superman seemed pretty low-energy fighting Doomsday if that's him at his best then that's pretty pathetic.
Hulk could probably even take him then.

This sounds like heaven for Goku. An enemy that gets infinitely stronger just like him AND always wants to fight.

Have you seen the first season of Justice League? Unironically unlike how you guys are exaggerating, Superman actually gets his butt kicked in every single episode.

Superman. No debate.
Goku's a more interesting character though, Supes' boring.

They both lose since they will locked in combat until the universe eventually dies.

>goalmoving
That user said Goku always wins, which is factually wrong.
He has lost against Yamcha, Mutenroshi, Ten Shin Han, Vegeta, Android 19, Cell, and a couple more I'm forgetting. Saying that we are the ones exaggerating when we're just stating the facts is laughable.

Which is why the worst superman stories are ones where he fights a big tough guy, ie most of his shit tier films.

Also, hate to break it to you, but someone already created one punch man.

How did Goku get rekt by Raditz? Superman lost to bruisers before he learned to use his strength. He only struggles now with magic and kryptonite, unless the foe is universe buster level. Don't hit me with cartoon JLA shit either, or I'll throw back how fucking useless Goku's feats are in the manga and heroes.

Or Goku teaches him the fusion dance and they become Dooku

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>Spics are still assblasted by how Superman raped Gokek on a rondom internet show

>learned to use his strength
It's been like 80 irl years and he's still learning.

Western character design sums up alot of One Piece characters

it does not matter
I shit on power level culture

Based!

Not on canon. In canon, even new 52, he's now pretty much fully mastered his abilities. New 52 isn't far off Superman Prime at this stage, who is pretty much multiverse god tier.

If Saitama wants to lose isn't him losing technically a win?

She absorbs a bit of everything, she even got confused where she lived once because she absorbed someone else's memories and went to their home instead of her own

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FPBP and besed

Unfortunately its still a poorly written series.