I'd like to introduce you to my favorite Star Trek character from the most recent ep of #StarTrekDiscovery whom I am calling Background Hero.
I'd like to introduce you to my favorite Star Trek character from the most recent ep of #StarTrekDiscovery whom I am...
This character has a disability & is going about their life, in a wheelchair. They aren't the focus. No one is making them a spectacle.
This is what we need to normalize living with a disability. Characters in popular TV shows/books who just happened to be disabled. Not a sad story. Not the uplifting beat of overcoming adversity. Not the reason our hero must seek revenge upon the villain. Just characters living.
In real life, disabled people are everywhere. Yet, disabled characters are rarely introduced into popular fiction. And when they are, it's almost always as a plot device.
We can change this, one series at a time by having people with disabilities doing everyday, mundane things.
It's really dumb that there's no precedent for anyone using wheelchairs in Star Trek, how stupid.
Don't care all that much but it seems actually retarded to not be able to create a functional walking situation with the degree of technology they have. I mean honestly this is probably one of the only settings I would call this out because it doesn't make sense. At least give him a floating pod or some shit for fucks sake.
So we can laser people around great distances but can’t fix cripples? What a shitty future
>They can put a human brain into a cyborgized body but somehow they can't give a guy robot legs
I dont understand this show.
At least Pike had the excuse for his wheelchair
>no one is making them a spectacle
>makes them a spectacle
what did he mean by this?
Naw, fuck that attention whore. If Geordy can not only have sight but SUPER VISION I'm Rodenberry damned sure that they have the ability to fix that gimp fuck. And because the federation is all about muh feefees they just let him wheel around like a faggot.
No one would choose to live this way. They had their own Mecha Frieza for fucks sake! Fix this niggas spine!
Isn't it dumb to have this kind of character on a sci-fi show in which humanity has the capability to go to distant star systems but can't fix someone's legs?
Imagine having to make your ship wheelchair friendly just because of one guy
Fixing people's handicaps is disabledphobic.
Amen brother, thank god STD finally introduced the concept to Star Trek
>teleportation
>they can literally turn every molecule of your body into energy, than put every single molecule in the exact same place
>not only every molecule, but even the current state of every synapse in the brain is rebuilt
>some motherfucker moving around on a wheelchair
You know propaganda when you see it.
It's literally cripplephobic that this has never happened in Star Trek before
>it happened before guise, because the scriptwriters were stupid
>no, the reason today is also because writers are dumb, it has nothing to do with SJW crap, relax.
They always had the tech to replace Geordi's eyes, he just refused for some reason until the time of First Contact. Maybe he finally reconsidered after the Romulans used his visor interface to torture and Manchurian Candidate him?
This.
Next amputees will be fucking our women making crippled half breeds.
It really was because the Klingons used the same trick again in Generations.
Did you reply to the wrong person?
>sci-fi show in which humanity has the capability to go to distant star systems
>niggers still exist
>complaining about sjw shit in star trek or all things
this is the ultimate braindead pill. Think about it LOGICALLY
Don't you have an axe wound to be tending to, my man?
Did they make the engineering bay handicapped accessible?
That guy and aliens who are sentient enough to be crew or guests but don't have legs.
>Background Hero
>Hero
Cripples, retards and people with illnesses are not heroes. A hero is literally a being who puts their own safety at risk in the effort to save OTHERS. Not themselves. Struggling with an impairment or handicap can make you a fighter or a survivor, but not a hero. If you had a cancer patient stop a runaway bus full of school kids from driving off a cliff, THEN they would be a hero.
Yes. The one in your head, silly. Now, stand up on your tippy toes so I can reach it.
I guess the reason hoverchairs weren't in the show is because it's hard to fake that technology on a TV budget. It would fit the world perfectly though.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>moving the goalposts
leave this poor retarded legged man alone
With the advances in medical tech and robotics, wheelchairs would be practically non-existant in most of the Trek timeline. Look at where we are with advanced prosthetics now.
>it's obviously a dude in a wheelchair
>fatso still uses "they" pronouns because muh don't assume people's identutuhss
this guy is a crippled meatball with a fucking life support tube in his neck and yet he still has to pander to trannies lmao.
Post the reply tweets where he argues that most people with disabilities prefer to live with their disabilities than having them cured.
Those are the funniest shit.
WHY WOULD HE HAVE A FUCKING WHEELCHAIR IN THE FUCKING FUTURE WHEN PROSTHETICS WOULD BE SO FUCKING ADVANCED THEY PROBABLY BE BETTER THAN REAL FUCKING LEGS?! GODDAMN THAT SHIT IS RETARDED!
In the Star Trek universe this might make some sense since WW3 was caused by eugenics, and that some people would take "human purity" too far as a result. Though I imagine they'd be in the extreme minority.
My favorite background character was literally the king of the country of Jordan. STD can have their cut rate cripple. We've had tons of cripples on Trek. But we've only had one actual literal king on the show. Plus the king's real life wife is hot as fuck. Way better than that fake background cripple ever got.
>An actual king is a huge fan of your show
>Wants to be on the show!
>Can't give him a line because of FAG and jewion rules...
They have the tech for full body cyborgs but the tech to fix a fucking spinal column. Writers are inconsistent hacks.
Geordi La Forge explains why he wears his visor even though technology exists to fix his eyes. Watch the show you stupid FUCK
If i watched this, would I really be as inundated with identity politics as Yea Forums says i will?
>everyone secretly hate the guy because he keeps getting in everyone's way
You can tell that freak never seen a single episode of TOS, TNG or ENT. This is exactly why leftist fuck up sci-fi and have no respect for canon. I guess Pike in TOS never came to his Marxist, pray for me, victimhood mind
>future where FTL exists
>they have a fuckload of hover tech
>they don't even have the equivalent of a fucking rascal
Fuck you no legs, you have to push the wheels
Luckily for Spohn, Spock now suffers from dyslexia which somehow makes him able to process visions of the future. #foregroundhero #handicapable #forrealthough
Bit saddened to discover that appearently in this interplanetary society without scarcity, in which pic related is possible, there are still class differences putting that disabled starfleet officer in an antique weelchair instead of just giving him a pair of functioning legs or hell even an exoskeleton providing full mobility.
>Mfw
Facts
Jesus fucking Christ
Just give me dead horse and a big stick, i'll do the rest.
Worf breaks his back and loses the use of his legs in TNG. In it there IS a treatment option but he opts for seppuku because he sees the option itself as unfit for a warrior.
Social media was a mistake.
HAHAHAHA
My sides, stop, this cant be real.
It's true. This is STD's target audience.
Oh shit, he was in this? Cool dude.
House BTFO a faggot like this
I can see this. Being a peado is part of my identity.
>"No one is making them a spectacle"
>Makes him a spectacle
>*Honk Honk*
We're literally only a few years away from being able fix broken spines and prosthetic limbs are almost as good as the real thing now.
the absolute state of STDfags
He is a Gamer and is not able to rise up. Truly a tragedy.
Imagine if Star Trek finally had a disabled main cast member... Wouldn't that be something?
>"""disabled"""
>prosthetic essentially makes him superior to normal people
This is true however the deaf are quite a unique case; communication with non-deaf who aren't versed in sign language tends to be harder and at least in my country there is quite a large deaf community within which they are able to communicate in sign language with far greater ease.
Imagine trying to talk without being able to hear.
Also there is an hereditary form of deafness which results in entire families being deaf, of course making sign language their prime mode of communication.
None of this applies to paraplegics and in fact this hypothetical future paraplegic refusing the ability to walk would be far more akin to someone suffering from body integrity dysphoria: en.wikipedia.org
so they can rebuild Arium or whatever her name was as a cyborg, but they can't give his guy a pair of her spare legs?
Also this.
Don't colonize his identity, the wheelchair community has a deep knowledge and culture that walkers will never understand.
>Don't colonize his identity
kek
>BECAUSE THIS WAY I DON"T HAVE TO BUY NEW SHOES
In a future where motherfucking cyborgs are common. In where clonation is also common, in where medicine is pretty much magic and you can bring people from fucking death...there're people in wheelchairs, wtf?
>He wants to be in a wheelchair
Oh, I guess being literally crazy can't be cured
It's not a disability though. Not wanting to deal with roasties is a plus.
>old men using wheelchairs because they are old
not quite a disability my guy
>tfw you will never have zero g alien sex
What happened to this fucking world?
How do we fix it?
Do we need another world war? A series of local wars big enough to cause famine and disease?
Exterminatus
Giving someone a wheelchair instead of exoskeletal legs (or better) would be like giving laforge a white stick.
Honestly, with Star Trek's tech level wheelchairs should be caveman technology to them. They can instantly regrow major organs but somehow can't fix your dumb fucked-up legs? Get out of here.
There was a doctor or scientist that came aboard DS9 that was in a wheelchair.....
Wouldn’t they have tech to solve this issue? Wtf
does the cripple's wheelchair allow him to move at the speed of sound or faster?
a reset
THEY ADDRESS THAT IN A FUCKING EPISODE, YOU FUCKING RETARD. HE WEARS THE VISOR INSTEAD OF GETTING OCULAR IMPLANTS BECAUSE OCULAR IMPLANTS WOULD CAUSE HIM TO SUFFER A 20% LOSS OF VISUAL RANGE OVER THE VISOR. WHEN TOLD THIS, HE SAYS HE'LL "CONSIDER IT" AND THEN GETS THE IMPLANTS IN THE FUCKING MOVIES. MEANWHILE, PROSTHETIC EYES DON'T EXIST IN REAL LIFE, BUT PROSTHETIC LEGS DO, AND THEY'RE IN EVERY WAY SUPERIOR TO WHEELCHAIRS RIGHT NOW. THERE IS NO FUCKING REASON A FUCKING MEMBER OF FUCKING STARFLEET WOULD FUCKING WHEEL AROUND IN A FUCKING CHAIR WHEN HE COULD GET ROBOT FUCKING LEGS. THIS SHIT IS ABSOLUTELY RETARDED. LIKE YOU. FUCK THEM AND FUCK YOU.
Could be psychiatric or somatic causes. That's the only compelling reason I can think of outside Cpt. Pike's entire peripheral nervous system turning to gloop.
Maybe they just never get an effective treatment for ME/CFS
As retarded as this guy seems this is actually a common defense mechanism for people who are disabled. Actually admitting that you'd fix yourself IF it were possible is also admitting that your situation is shit and currently can't be fixed. The moment you admit it to yourself you're stuck knowing you're fucked and desperately wanting out and you need to live with it possibly forever.
Pretty much, it's not comparable to using a fucking mech suit. Deaf communities have their own sub-cultures.
>This Next Time Year
wut?
my ears hurt, user
Look at this bitch denying her identity, shame on her
The hypothetical nature of the question is what causes some people to say they wouldn't want to be cured. That is understandable.
BUT
If you literally HAD the cure in front of them, and there were no strings attached, there is no fucking way they would refuse it. Unless they were mentally ill, of course.
>Fixing people's handicaps is disabledphobic.
Reminds me of the psychotic deaf people who intentionally cause their healthy children to become deaf so they can all be the same.
What the fuck.
>he doesn't view kino on a Watchman
I saw a guy in a wheelchair that had tank treads on it and extended upwards, allowed him to "stand". If we can do that in 2019 I'm hoping some kind of exo-skeleton mobility device exists in the era of fucking warp travel and beaming matter from place to place.
If the disabled want to remove themselves from us normal (using that term really fuckin loosely) people I see no problem
>Twitter screencap thread
Hi, CBS.
That fucker was in the newest episode again. He just rolled in front of the camera like nothing.
Let me put this perfectly clear: if you'd offer a disabled person a possibility use their arms or legs again they'd take it. In a heart beat, they'd agree to replace their broken limbs with the newest replacement from Yamaha.
I'm kind of surprised Sci fi often never acknowledges a cure from spine rupture or becoming a quadrupeligic none of the Sci fi I watched had a cure for these conditions
I'm telling you right now, as soon as genetically engineering unborn babies becomes widespread, a few progressive fuckwits will be intentionally making their children disabled or deformed so they're special and diverse.
They're not going to forget how to use sign language. It's fucking subhuman.
If the whole point is to show a disabled person who isn't a spectacle, why the fuck would you make him a spectacle by taking a screencap of him, putting a big arrow and red text on that screencap pointing him out, and then posting that on twitter to make a big deal and focus on him and create a spectacle of him. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of "he's just a normal guy" if you don't treat him normal?
If they do, it's always in the vein of it being "expensive"
Lmao
I think you're reaching, people can describe others as 'they/them' when describing them, that's a perfectly normal way to describe somebody, it doesn't always have anything to do with their gender identity
People have always been this way but social media has given these weirdos a bigger voice, before they would just appear on the jerry springer show and be laughed at
Isn't Starfleet a military organization?
>it's a twitter thread
>it's nu/tv/ doesn't know that some handicapped people prefer to be handicapped
>hurr durr robot legs
I watched a documentary on a family of deaf people who could be cured with cochlear implants, but the parents refused. They said being deaf was better and their identity and some other stupid bullshit.
I think in the end, everyone got the implant except the father, but he might've eventually caved, too.
There are retards out there, but if I couldn't walk, I'd be pretty steamed about some cuck saying it's my identity and my choice.
No.
> The use of a wheelchair prop in the "The Menagerie" two-parter was meant to help camouflage the fact that a replacement actor was going to be playing Christopher Pike, instead of Jeffrey Hunter.
It was a cheat, user. Not a dramatic choice.
And now it is seen as bad manners to laugh at them.
> Pops a wheelie
>disabled weirdo who is elbow deep in sjw shit and unironically "identifies as disabled" (trannyspeak) just so happens to use plural pronouns to describe an individual male, this is totally normal
nah m8. context is key here.
> Vrrrrroooommmmm!
>they
That's clearly a he.
>futuristic spacecraft
>guy moving around in manual wheelchair
Im pretty sure he is talking about disable people in general
>this (single) character is going about their (single)
No user, it's just progressive talk.
You both know perfectly well what that faggot was doing.
> Welcome to - The 24th Century!
That dude is fat as fuck. That's why he defends disability.
I loved that line about how Bashir had to dig deep into ancient archives to find the pattern for this device.
You're literally giving these retards more attention then they deserve. Keep your retardation on twitter.
"Doctor, ye cannae change the laws of physics!"
>daily reminder Jordanians are a better friend than Israel
You'd think they could, though. Give her a special science-belt with little blinking lights on it. A device that either outright put her in a field inside which the gravity was lower or have it feedback on the gravplating, always turning it down immediately around her as she walked about the ship/station.
It's only be a problem if EVERYTHING BROKE because then she's basically be a pile of smashed bones and jelly any time the plot-energies were used by the enemies or fuck with the artificial gravity or inertial dampeners or the fucking electricity.
And if it was the "turn down the gravplating under her," she could never go outside. So she's be a holographic doctor.
What a clownworld
this, i don't think this guy could get any more patronizing if he tried. i can only hope someone on twitter in a wheelchair told him what an idiot he is.
underrated
How do you do, fellow kino enthusiasts?
>In starfleet
>in a wheelchair
>we already have the technology to make exoskeletons
>he could literally print one for free on the ship in seconds
>another "disabled person" onboard who is entirely synthetic except for the brain
>still chooses to be in a wheelchair
>not an attentionwhore
Ok.
>How do we fix it?
Are you not paying attention?
Don't be ableist to the whole world.
That's a haunting vision of the future.
I wonder what would happen if I ripped off his little communicator.
You best believe in clown world, son
Because you're in one
Except the lazy turds that realize that being able to walk and use their arms again would make them not eligible for welfare.
Believe it, I know people like this.
Good point. BUt I think if I got my legs back I'd just keep faking it, like Ray. Best of both worlds, freedom and free shit.
the whole "ableism" thing is just a polt to lower the strain on healthcare by making a generation of people "identify" as their disability and so not seek treatment while also keep them relying on government services
It would be very painful
>Give her a special science-belt with little blinking lights on it. A device that either outright put her in a field inside which the gravity was lower or have it feedback on the gravplating, always turning it down immediately around her as she walked about the ship/station.
Something like that in Star Trek? Ridiculous.
There are loonies subscribing to this ideal that literally hack their legs off just to become a minority.
I do believe that they have the tech to fix that.
Lets hear it for diversity over cannon.
modern medicine has advanced hundreds of years they even fixed worfs back that one time he took a crate to it yet they cant fix a dude in a wheel chair?
but thats because she comes from a planet with lower gravity
This is why SJWs shouldn't write sci-fi. They're more concerned with representing real life issues that they easily ruin the immersion of a fantasy world.
Maybe it's like jordy when he goy his eyes fixed by Q, or like how Doctor Cunty refused to use the transporters. Maybe hes afraid of surgery idk. Remember Captain Pike's fucked up dalek hover round? Maybe his legs are so fucked they cant even give him prostethics. Maybe hes senile like Admiral Jameson.
You can come up with some bushit excuse. They probably had someone requiring them to hire disabled actors and gave him a wheel chair with lights on it.
If you want to by a pilot in the Air Force, can you refuse corrective eye surgery and still be a pilot?
If dude didn't want to fix his spine, he shouldn't be given the job.
Starfleet cleary doesn't give a shit considering they let Doctor Pulaski sign up.
no one is complaining about the guy in the wheel chair being there. they're complaining how patronizing the idiot who wrote the tweet is being. but you knew that.
>Some people *prefer* to be disabled
Literally clown world.
Well, people are complaining about the dude in the wheelchair being there because they can fix that shit. He has no reason to be in a wheelchair in the first place.
>master faster than light travel
>can’t fix a cripple
Checks out
I thought Pike’s chair was also his life support system, not just for mobility?
>no one is complaining about the guy in the wheel chair being there
I am and I'm complaining about Spock's dyslexia which enables him to process visions of the future instead of just preventing him from properly processing letters and words as well. Total immersion breaker as both these are NOTHING but extremely patronizing pats on the back straight from the writers room to paraplegics and dyslexia sufferers in the audience and of course "representation" in a setting in which this makes ZERO sense.
EXTREMELY !! How could you misquote something so iconic. Stupid newfag
Sorry sperg
...
well you're both idiots, you don't count.
Even with the magical cure in front of them, they'd still need to admit they were wrong about accepting being handicapped. Which would be harder the longer they had accepted it, the larger a part of their identity they had made it.
what job even is there for the wheelman on a star ship?
Lol you can't make a pro discovery thread.
Yea Forums janny hates that shit.
>well you're both idiots
That's ableist!
This but unironically
I hate that people think being black, a woman or disabled is a character trait
I agree wholeheartedly but not in a future utopia. Why can't it be an utopia to paraplegics too?
>I like that no one is making a spectacle out of him being disabled and just treat him like its not a big deal
>But actually being disabled is a big part of an identity
This is stupid. Star Trek has advanced medical technology that disabled people wouldn't exist. If they do exist, then that says a lot about the world and system: namely, that they're letting people be disabled on purpose for no particular reason.
Geordi refused because his visor allowed him to see the entire electromagnetic spectrum. Fuck normal human goo-balls after that shit.
See that's another thing. How is a crip fit to serve? Despite the "muh new life and new civilizations" crap Starfleet is still a military organization, especially in the non-Rodenberry series. How is he supposed to quickly get to his duty station if they come under attack? What if he's on a different deck and the lifts get shut down?
He refused because he realized his eyesight gave him a unique role, advantage, and perspective aboard the enterprise. I think it was a character growth thing of recognizing his faults make him more who he is.
It's a psychological defense mechanism.
Soo they can't giv him robotic legs or just make new ones via clones or what?
Yea, thats what I said.
>remembers South Park parodying this character
God damn do they perfectly ruin all pop culture things for me.
It's not a fault if your cyborg eyes are better than real eyes. In fact, everyone should have had that upgrade.
Meanwhile on the Orville.
Geordi loved they way he looks, he is a bitchy snowflake and wanted to stand out, cant stand out by just being a black nigger anymore...
> He thinks after 400 years of abortion on demand, cripples will still be around.
Got some bad news for you, Gimp user.
>people would CHOOSE to be disabled
forced upgrades? in the federation?
>Advocates work and building (something up) without letting the negativity of others drag you down
Pretty decent sentiment
I want off this ride.
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>dead people have it as part of their identity
It has been well over 20 decades since I last watched the NOMAD episode. Is that literally how NOMAD floats around the ship?
Worf got a new spine
Wheelchair guy is just a lazy faggot
People try their best to out "progressive" each other, not matter how retarded they sound.
>TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
>Do we need another world war?
100% yes. Large scale conflicts are almost always followed by a certain degree of enlightenment, creativity, solidarity and focus. Building up the things that sustain our direct human needs tend to have the effect of teaching us what life is really all about. When people forget these lessons they start to lose touch with reality.
FYI in trek they often opt for wheelchairs because huge portions of the human population and ayys as well are all against "transhumanism" and cyborg shit.
They rightfully fear that if they give into upgrading thier bodys with cyborg parts, they will go down a slippery slope towards everyone needing cyborg upgrades if they want to be able to compete. Maybe the upgrades even becoming mandatory in the future and turning into something similar to the Borg.
Humans lost most of their population leading up to and during WWIII because genetically engineered supermen thought they should rule the planet for being smart, stronger and faster than normal humans. They dont want to repeat the same thing again, but with cyborgs.
Not just a wheelchair, though.
>the Borg
You mean Control? ;)
It's kind of sad watching STD, and knowing that Pike is going to end up a depressed cripple who ends up living in a fantasy land just a few years later.
There's no avoiding it, sooner or later that's that guy's fate.
They might as well just turn off the artificial gravity.
I agree, but I also look at countries like Japan, Poland, Switzerland, etc, who are not experiencing this level of societal decay. I was in Kyoto for a semester abroad last year, and it was a night and day difference between there and NYC, with the latter now feeling like the third world country. In other words, I think it's also a byproduct of low IQ/political alignment/critical thinking skills. I don't know, it's depressing.
Quick explanation- Spohn is clearly obese from his pfp. Obese people in the US, UK, and elsewhere are often placed on disability to where they don't have to hold down jobs. To them, being obese is a way of life and an identity, one they rely one. Obese idiots are not like truely disabled people.
he's in a wheelchair ya dingus
Obesity can be both a cause and a symptom, without knowing which is the case here I'm not going to comment on it.
TNG is more advanced.
Chunks of shit spiraling out of my brown downpipe
The torque is amazing
Like a foot long fusilli cast from brass
It makes a metallic clang as it richochets off the side of the bowl
Compact as fuck, almost to the point of not smelling
Almost
Whatever stray molecules that somehow escaped the heat and pressure make easy work of the doorhandle
It corrodes like an alka seltzer as a single momentary blast of gravy toned CD player radiation odour passes through it like an X Ray
Fucking christ
I'll dream again but not for a long time
Even the potency of subconscious meaning is depleted by the dark mass
My secondary and tertiary minerals have been recruited to the singular purpose of reinforcing my colon
The sudden fasting inflicted upon non critical areas of my body has made my skin look younger, although too tight
I'll sail away from here now
A new person
A new entity
Cleansed and at once burdened also
For the knowledge is heavy, and the bright expectations of the child were left behind
Where once there was fire I have now only serenity
And stern gazes are all I have to brighten the morning
I'll sail away from here now
Truer
More patient
>cause their healthy children to become deaf
I know they don't get their deaf kids' deafness fixed, but deafening them is news to me.
you know, they've been retconning so much in star trak that i don't think your argument is valid
>No one is making them a spectacle.
Except the fucking retard who has to attention whore on about noticing him?
what about Pike?
they should be using hover chairs to be honest
>being disabled is part of my identity
what the fuck
they literally had a character that's literally a brain in a robot body
It is though, identity for a large part is what others perceive you as. (Now of course soon as you'd be cured that'd stop.)
well there are people who pay money to get a surgeon to cut off their limbs
Imagine being so stupid that you misunderstand a simple post. LOL
Yes they do.
>None of this applies to paraplegics and in fact this hypothetical future paraplegic refusing the ability to walk would be far more akin to someone suffering from body integrity dysphoria: en.wikipedia.org
Are you stating that weelchairman's real handicap is a mental illness?
Don't be stupid. A profession is part of an identity. Your race. Your name. Your last name. It all factors in however stupid it may be in practice.
>Going to space travel where you have limited resources
>Add useless weight (Wheelchair)
>Wheelchair guy is seless for a good amount of missions and tasks
>He is a risk and a burden during emergencies.
Jesus, Do these guys even think?.
Nothing about you is special.
Didn't worf end up in a wheelchair? That episode fucking sucked.
pretty sure he had corrective surgery
You have never watched an episode of star trek.
Did you just have a stroke out of anger? I never said anything about what's special and only what goes into an identity.
Honestly no, By the comments I guess it's not like reality accurate.
Not him but if that's the case then stop trying to make points on what you don't understand.
Go look up the definition of identity.
are you intentionally trying to defend dudes in a wheelchair serving on a starship in a quasi-military organization?
he's literally living the dream though.
Yeah, I think I shouldn't comment on shows I haven't watched.
Well I guess he is literally living a dream, sure
But I don't think I'd like living in a dream if I knew it was a dream, he seemed pretty distressed by that knowledge the first time around. And again in STD when he saw Vera, he had a look of fear as if he might still be on Talos and the past few years were fake.
Isn't Tilly also a crip? But mentally.
they're gonna give him an episode now
WATCH THE FUCKING SHOW
deft communities are like that they look down on people that get hearing implants
This is the series of no seatbelts and consoles filled with explosives. And aliens that look so much like humans with latex masks. And telepathy. And FTL.
Do not think too much about it.
Even if there are supposed to be any disabled people LEFT in Star Trek, having someone in a wheelchair on a military ship is absurd. They have to crawl around in tubes and ladders when the lifts aren't working.
Omg you bigot, there is nothing wrong with them. Sure they can't walk, but that makes them just as good as you and me. Also i like to cut my penis off, then let doctors turn it into a hole and slowly open it everyday so it doesn't "heal" and there is nothing wrong with that.
i think hollywood is just really stupid
So that's a yes?
For FUCKS SAKE STAR TREK
Jefferies tubes were made for cripples, it is just that voyager lost its wheelchair bound population that was designated to work the tubes.
So i guess we'll be seeing the first trans person in Star Trek any day now
You've all got it wrong. The people in Star Trek who are crippled are that way by choice and don't want to be fixed. It's not that they can't fix their problems. Fucking idiots
>Voyager
Muh identity
If this shit was possible in the past would they have locked you up in an insane asylum for denying the cyborg legs?
I thought they had to pass the psychological evaluation to get on board of a starship? How would someone who so lazy that he stays a cripple pass it?
Would starfleet even allow cripples to sign up? I mean, unless they had some pretty fantastical abilities, I feel like a normal redshirt-tier cripple would be gone in a single mission.
Don't see why not, no real reason a science/medical desk jockey couldn't be paraplegic.
Obviously security and engineering would be a poor fit.
Probably.
Armored cripples would destroy a bat'leth wielding Klingon.
they're not gonna always be behind a desk tho, what if they need to evacuate a ship? What is the gravity goes haywire?
I can see a dozen situations where they'd be dead or even more crippled in the opening moments of their duty, at a desk or not.
Wouldn't it be a bit like letting a cripple onto a warship in the middle of a warzone?
Sure he might be working in communication and can do everything that is required of him on a day to day basis, but when shit goes down shit goes down and he will always in some level be quite a big liability. Not just to himself but also others.
Wouldn't they cure him? Wouldn't they have something better than a wheelchair?
i'd have agreed with this in the past but i've seen a deliberate push to remove "he" as the default pronoun and instate "they" particularly in west coast cities like seattle
call me paranoid if you want but it's being intentionally done to normalize gender-neutrality and therefore trannies
Starships have a strange thing where gravity tends to be the last thing to go, even after all other life support. If it goes anyone's probably boned by that point, cripple or not
There's always site-to-site transports, too
Yeah they'd be pretty useless in a combat situation, but realistically most combat is going to be ship-to-ship, they're not going to beam random scientists and doctors down to a planet/enemy ships to fight.
Boarding is rare and only happens when the shields are down or plot demands it.
They have children on board starships, that's the real concern
Hold up, Chris.
>24th Century
>wheelchair
>They have children on board starships, that's the real concern
That's a good point.
We need another world war. That would fix everything
Speaking of WW3 one dude, just one fucking dude was able to build the first warp engine from scraps. Thus allowing the Vulcans to notice us and help us rebuild
they have means of protecting children and children aren't expected to act in emergencies, and don't have duties to perform in cases of emergencies.
Its not like there's an active duty six year old walking around the ship.
Remember when Woft would rather die than live as a cripple, so they did experimental surgery on him until he could walk again?
Gee, it's almost as if the writers of this show have never seen any episode of any Star Trek show and know nothing of the technology available.
Pike was fucked up by delta rays and it fucked his whole body up. That's something they couldn't fix with their technology and medicine. That's why he goes and lives with the talosians
>yes goy go die in a world war, it will save your culture
I can't walk anymore, so hand daddy the knife.
It's been a while since I watched The Menagerie, I forget (or maybe they just never clarified), was Spock bringing Pike back to Talos so they could fix him like Vina, or just so he could live in an illusion of being healthy?
Kill everybody.
But this is a case where medtech would make one really the opposite sex. Homosexual is one thing, but trans would be absurd.
Just an illusion, and they would likely run him through torturous scenarios in order to learn more.
So, we're all agreed, Islamic revolution?
Giving up alcohol and pork sucks, but these guys will get thrown off of buildings.
>Have computer downloaded into your brain
>Become immune to phasers
Okay.
this is a kike btw
Scraps from a Missile Launch Facility.
did you skip the scene where Ash walked in on him getting mechanical upgrades to his body?
CONTROL probably installed steel plates or something under his skin
i wonder if when the wheelchair was invented there were people who would rather crawl around instead of using one because its their identity
Star Trek has shit medical care for spinal injuries.
they've got a trans-species and a trans-dimensional though.
Ah, I thought so. Poor old Pike.
I wonder if they'll retcon his fate in STD somehow.
Sad that the actor that played thus kid is dead already.
>can make cyborgs, interstellar ships, ray guns, teleporters
>cant fix cripples
Sounds about right. Big pharma would never let anyone actually cure someone of any kind of disability or disease.
Eyeglasses carried a huge stigma not too long ago.
Spartan would throw their cripples off cliffs and enjoy nourishing lentils.
Nanomachines son
Did you not see the pulsing grey nanomachine veins? Or the CGI of nanomachines flooding through his blood, or his face literally opening up?
I really hope the Borg parallels being introduced are just that, we don't need a damn Borg origin story, keep them mysterious.
Also I hate how everything ties back to Humanity, why can't something be truly alien.
Different actor, the one who killed himself only played Alexander for one episode
That’ll teach me not to read the whole article.
I hope Wesley kills himself next.
>Its not like there's an active duty six year old walking around the ship.
RIP Kes.
>I really hope the Borg parallels being introduced are just that
Nah, it's the Borg. It literally said "struggle is pointless." I mean, come on.
Died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. I guess he's not walking either.
Is this a joke? I know a disabled guy and while he's happy with his situation, he made it clear that if the technology was there and affordable to walk again that he would take it. Is wearing glasses a part of someone's identity too? What a fucking joke
>everybody thought they were going to time travel and undo the Klingon war
>everybody thought the Red Angel was Michael
>everybody thinks Control is the Borg
disregard Mirror Lorca being so obvious
I know the writers probably won't be able to resist using the franchises most well known villains now that the Klingons have been used up, I just really hope they won't.
Perhaps a vain hope
>I hope Wesley kills himself next.
I was hoping for "slow death by AIDS" or "accidentally knocks a bucket of goat pheromone all over himself and then slips and falls into a pit full of male goats" but suicide would be acceptable also
>tfw Wesley was the most irritating character ever, and I felt bad for the actor who had to play the smug little dork, and then the actor turned out to be a thousand times more unbearable
>Its not like I want to walk again, I'm FINE being this way
COPE
It is quite possible he was cast for the role because of his personality.
just when you read the most retarded thing on the internet. this takes a gold medal
This attitude is almost entirely limited to the big D deaf community, and that's only because a lot of them have no concept of what hearing actually is, so they don't understand how getting it would be a cure. After that it's just the morbidly obese trying convince people that it wasn't poor life choices that let to their condition.
Listen guys, they can’t do anything crazy with the wheelchairs because I’m assuming those actors are actually disabled. Hiring a non disabled actor to play a disabled person using advanced tech in order to function would alienate real disabled actors and would be very difficult to implement on disabled people because futuristic ideas of these concepts are not usually bound or grounded to reality for them to use safely.
I've met a blind person who is like this too. Also a retarded leftist faggot and also has terrible BO. I've noticed that about a lot of these leftists incidentally, very poor personal hygiene.
>Jesus Christ, get that smug little prick out of this room before I strangle him
>Christ, he's even got a special snowflake way of spelling his name. Wil. Wil. Like it'd just kill his fucking parents to write that extra L like everyone else has.
>even the look on his face! He hadn't even picked up the script to do the read and I wanted to punch him in dumbfuck little face
>what the fuck is onions milk anyway
>god damnit, I guess we've found our Wesley
Casting is hell
>They have children on board starships, that's the real concern
>tfw you're about to evacuate the women and children before engaging the Borg but decide it would be more fun to let them watch instead
They still do because black rimmed wearing numales. Same with tattoos. And oblivious women/males virtue signaling with dyed hippy hair.
I'm over forty and I think light colored eyeglass frames are too flashy. I have to say I'd not reject black frames, but my current ones are very dark blue, almost black.
>No one is making them a spectacle
Well...he is
I kinda like these.
And they choose to have low-tech wheelchairs? Why not just crawl?
>the future
>making accommodations for the asshole who chose to forego the free and effective cure for his paralysis as a power move
Just clone a new spine for him, boom done. Easy.
All their other tech is super advanced, holo-interfaces, spore drive, etc. Surely their medical tech is also superior.
Is trans-warp not for the binary gendered?
Haven't some Borg already been around before this in Enterprise?
Then cast them for a part in a show in which nearly all of today's problems have not yet been solved. That is the entire point of star trek: an optimistic dreamlike look at a future interplanetary society exploring all sorts of philosophical, moral and regular old scifi concepts for the purpose of entertainment.
This is almost an acted out sjw manifesto with bits and pieces torn from actual Trek tacked on to fool unsuspecting viewers into watching.
Yes, and I get that same feeling from the new Star Wars movies
DUDE TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF LMAO
One could always assume that these wheelchair bound people can be in recovery, and just use a basic tried and true wheelchair, or that their injuries that would normally leave someone fully paralyzed can now be lessened because futuristic wheelchair using future shit.
Yep, though their one appearance in ENT was basically just a sequel to the First Contact movie. The Borg origins or their past is not elaborated on at all, their first appearance is still in TNG's timeframe really, those ones were just out of place.
>there's freakyass cyborg corpses here that may be time travelers
>oh fug they're alive and trying to escape
>we blew them up, but they sent a message to the far corner of the galaxy first. But it won't be received for 200 years so I guess we'll never know what they were.
It wasn't of much/any consequence
Imagine the handjobs...
Goddammit, the very thing Star Trek is fucking not is hard science fiction.
Yes, dude, turn your fucking brain off and go fap to your favorite trekfu.