Return of the Jedi was objectively the best Star Wars movie and no one will ever convince me otherwise

HO HO HO HO

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>Ewoks
How do you justify that literal cash grab for children?
Revenge of the sith is the only good star wars film.

Star Wars itself is a cash grab for children, but it's still my favorite series ever

Amen, my fellow Star Wars fan of the finest taste. RotJ is my favorite movie of all. The throne room is the greatest, most satisfying, inspiring, and emotional scene of any movie to me.

mfw most people on this board have never actually seen the original trilogy. just some remixed version of it. rotj being the worst offender of the three

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>misuse of the word "objectively"
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E
Implying that yub nub is so overwhelmingly bad that it somehow taints the Throne room or Jabba's palace?? How the hell does a brief song get you that worked up

Agreed.

How dare a movie aimed at all ages have content a child will grow fondness for! Products bad, people shouldn't buy things of characters and creatures they enjoy!!

based and jabbapilled

Ewoks were a good thing. I can't fathom why anybody would hate them unless they were cringy soulless teenage edgelord manchildren (in other words the same people who hated the prequels).

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Deh Jabba wanga

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>Worst cinematography and direction of the OT
>Kiddie pandering and writing story around toy sales
>Han Solo is a total fucking dead end of a character
>DUDE DEATH STAR LMAO
>Stupid plot twists like Leia being Luke's sister

Victory Celebration may be a worse song than Yub Nub from a musical perspective, but from a storytelling perspective the new victory montage sequence of the ROTJ special editions showing the galaxy successfully throwing off the yoke of the Empire and peace and freedom being restored is pure unadulterated kino, and must be considered narratively superior to the Yub Nub ending.

That said the Sarlacc beak was unforgiveable shit.

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It's not the most interesting to look at in terms of shot composition most of the time. The story also can't seem to figure out anything interesting for Leia and Han to do. The ewoks themselves don't bother me at all, but a lot of the Endor stuff in general doesn't enrich the story much. It's not a bad movie by any means (it nails Luke's character arc), but I definitely prefer TESB.

Its definitely the most fun of any of them

youtube.com/watch?v=aJTsQEoIcvA

>Inserting terrible 1996 CGI into a movie from 1983
>Reminding you that JarJar Binks exists
>The entire Empire was overthrown overnight because they lost one battle

R.I.P. Ackbar.

thread theme
youtube.com/watch?v=o3SjPqG8hSo

Oh stop it.

Yes, the 1st half of ROTJ is universally kino. No one disagrees.

The 2nd half is the issue.

Basically everything after the Ewoks show up. Basically the Ewoks ruin everything and it was a sign of all the terrible things that were to come with the prequels (jar jar, slapstick droids, dumb anakin dialogue, etc).

Imagine being such a pleb you don't like Yoda.
Holy fucking retard.

>complains about ESB for being a puppet show
>praises Jabba's Palace

what the fuck?

not him but Jabbas palace used to be fucking comfy until they decided to fuck with Max Reebo's music.
that fucking travesty of cgi knocks it down quite a few points for sure.

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i agree
ewoks were made entirely for marketing cuteness bullshit

Only the opening and the throne room scenes are interesting, the rest is boring shit that's laughable. People who Jedi are autistic plebs who watch films for specific scenes.

I don't understand why people hate the Ewoks so much, they are fine.

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I like this

because 10yo boys who grew up on star wars were now 16 yo "men" and were offended by them for not being edgy enough

>cutesy comedy relief robots (meant to sell toys) = fine
>cutesy hooded munchkins (meant to sell toys) = fine
>cutesy 7 foot tall puppy (meant to sell toys) = fine
>cutesy squeaking robot car (meant to sell toys) = fine
>cutesy goat-dinosaur (meant to sell toys) = fine
>cutesy green goblin meme mentor (meant to sell toys) = fine
>cutesy midget teddy bears (meant to sell toys) = WTF LUCAS YOU RUINED MY MATURE SCIFI FAIRYTALE FILM FOR MATURE FILMERS SUCH AS MYSELF BY MAKING THESE THINGS APPEAL TO CHILDREN TO SELL TOYS

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Explain.

5>3>4>1>6>2

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ROTJ = Rebels > AOTC > ANH = TPM > Solo > ESB > ROTS > TCW = R1 > TFA = Resistance > TLJ

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forgot
Droids cartoon > TCW
Ewoks cartoon > Resistance
Ewoks Caravan of Courage > TFA
Ewoks Battle for Endor = ESB
Holiday Special = Droids cartoon

pretty much

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One of the midgets from Time Bandits worked Jaba's tail. I remember that from seeing the making of ROTJ special when I was a kid.

i've met 2 of these midgets
there's really something about the UK and extreme manlets

In my opinion, RotJ is the moment GL began to turn is franchise into a business. The story is much more kid oriented and feels really light. Solo for exemple, was supposed to be a martyr but in the name of profit, GL kept him alive. Everything gives us the feeling this is an entertainment. The Ewoks and Jabba s palace for exemple are really aimed at kids.

I enjoyed the movie but I can't help to notice nonetheless that this movie is actually the precursor for the milking of the license. The prelogy is the result of that movie.

That's awesome. I used to watch Star Wars and Time Bandits all the time in the 80's.

too bad it has the worst act 2 of the original trilogy.

Part of me wonders how it would've turned out if they didn't have the shield generator and instead had luke sneak inside to send some kind of plans back to the rebels. Ya know, sneaking around like Ben did in episode 4. After he does, he decides to stick around and try to save his father, but now there's the ticking clock element of the Rebels are about to blow the death star up.

Would make for a hell of an Act 3, but still no idea what to do to kill time in act 2.

fun little thought writing exercise

>its got jabba's hair, the huge space rattle, and the final slowdown

The franchise was always for kids and to make money. The very first thing Lucas did when negotiating with Fox in 1976 was obtain exclusive rights to all merchandising profits.

>Imperial garrisons simply disappear into thin air and allow mass celebrations about the death of their leader

watch this video where Sam Witwer explains to brainlets like you where ROTJ became kino

>but what about Gondor's tax policy?

I agree but there is clearly a difference between the first two movies and RotJ. It doesn't handle the story the same way and in RotJ, it gives more the feeling of looking at a commercial.

fucking smart guy yeah?

this never fails to put a smile on my face.
fucking shame it's been lost

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Critics were saying the exact same thing about the first two films. And the next 3 films. And really every movie, tv show, cartoon, or other form of franchise aimed at children with merchandise of its own that ever existed.

how the gonk droid screams blends into tho sy snootles track
the fuck was George thinking
youtube.com/watch?v=k1sF9veTzuU

Well, you miss my point. I know it s aimed to sell toys. But I find the process in RotJ more obvious and clumsy in the storytelling, than in Anh or Tesb.
After all, in Anh, Lucas had to redo his god damn story something like 10-15 times and Tesb was not done by him.

>and Tesb was not done by him.
Wrong, Leigh Brackett died before finishing her screenplay, which was completely thrown out and rewritten by Lucas himself

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What does jabba's cock look like?

After the RLM reviews, a lot of people like to parrot how bad RotJ is. True, it falls short in a lot of places and had very questionable tone and choices, but it also had some of the most iconic moments in the entire franchise.

Every Star Wars story after it wanted to copy the Emperor's Throne Room and Jabba scenes.

Coochoo wanky ma pee gassa. Ha ha ha!

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Hurts are hermaphrodites and impregnate themselves so he probably doesn't have one.

it wasn't that bad at the time.
no one knew about Courascant or Naboo, etc so it wouldn't hold any weight
the prequels turned it into some sort of mild fuckery but it really wasn't that bad at the time
check the last moments of this clip
youtube.com/watch?v=a2obEPFGrMs

Why is it so much uglier than the other two? The cinematography is not good and neither is the makeup/hairstyling. The only shots I truly remember are in the throne room (Vader and Luke walking up to the Emperor; Luke sitting in the shadows and hiding from Vader). Empire was a gorgeous movie that made great use of contrast and framing.

RotJ is the best looking one.

>the makeup/hairstyling wasn't as lovely as I imagined it.
spotted the T-boy

"There will only be one. And it won't be what I would call the 'rought cut', it'll be the 'final cut.' The other one will be some sort of interesting artifact that people will look at and say, 'There was an earlier draft of this.'...What ends up being important in my mind is what the DVD version is going to look like, because that's what everybody is going to remember. The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won't last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition]."
-- George Lucas,

go fuck yourself GL

What's with all these people caring about these weird artistry aspects as opposed to things that matter like PLOT and character/creature/set design.

Listen kid
Its called Kino
You wouldnt understand
Nothing personell

>things that matter like PLOT

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I think they should go back to the original ending. The localized celebration fit better and we know winning the war wasn't that easy. The Galactic empire wasn't just Palpatine and Vader, there were thousands of planets with Empirical administration.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
"No!"

>Victory Celebration may be a worse song than Yub Nub
It's the exact opposite, Victory Celebration >>>>>>>>>>>>> dog shit >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yub Nub

fuck your dubs

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>all these seething impfags butthurt that their shitty Ein-Tausend-Jahrige Kaiserreich instantly fell when their gay wizard emperor and his wunderwaffe blew up

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They both matter, but movies are a visual medium and how things look matters a fucking lot.

Will never understand the Ewok hate. They were meant to be an example of the lesser more primitive force overcoming the soulless technologically superior Empire through heart and spirit. They were everything the Rebellion was about. Seeing an army of Wookie would have been rad but it also slants things too heavily in one sides favor considering Chewbacca had been fucking up whatever he wanted the entire trilogy.

What are these dumbass posts shitting on Leia and Han. RotJ was Luke's movie. There's nothing wrong with RotJ settling Han and Leia early and then moving them over to take care of rebel stuff while the movie rightfully focused on Luke.

Han wasn't kept alive for profit, Han was never meant to die, Ford just thought he should. George is a romantic though and thought that was too dark

Reminder that the "Now I am Yoda" meme is actually fucking real, and Lawrence Kasdan thought it was unironically a good idea, which should tell you something about the fact that Kasdan wrote for the nuquels

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There's nothing wrong with the ewoks.

Empire only started looking good once they got to Bespin and Dagobah. Hoth and the asteroid were shit

The throne room is epic but you have to remember
>han and leia sit and stand in a room for their climax
>boring space battle climax (seriously is watching ships go pew pew in mock WWII dog fights ever entertaining?)
>like over half the movie is filler
>han solo should have been dead
>lots of cringe moments
>movie looks like it belongs on tv
>the world is saved because ???

fucking brainlets

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Hating ewoks is an instant red flag that you're dealing with a giga-brainlet. Ewoks are the pleb-filter that tests whether you were awake during Empire Strikes Back. For all the people who fellate ESB as the ultimate Star Wars movie and everything else as toyetic kiddie shit, they clearly weren't paying attention when Yoda asked "JUDGE ME BY MY SIZE DO YOU?"
ROTJ is all about Luke putting the lessons he learned in ESB to practice instead of being a snide self-important little shit like the manchildren who rag on Endor while worshiping Hoth are.

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Why do old school movie posters have so much soul? Quite unlike the garbage put out today.

Based Lucas btfo of brainlets. This idea that someone needs to direct to raise the stakes is so lame. I never understand why fans retroactively talk about wanting Han to die when it would have done nothing for the movie. I have a suspicion it's because it's what Lucas didn't want so resentful fanboys think it would have been better.

some of the best movies aren't Micheal bay'ed the fuck out.

Anyone else think the Time Bandits midgets look really gross and unsettling? Midgets in general make me uneasy, but those guys in particular really disturb me.

Because they were painted by an artist instead of made in photoshop by an intern.

Because they were art rather than just the airbrushed actors photoshopped onto a blue and orange background

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Now I am Vader
lol fucking memes from 1981

what the fuck does that mean? the only bay film I've ever seen is tranformers 1 and I have like no memory of it.

fucking great !

It's a space fairytale. You cut the head of the dragon and it's over.

sorry sam I'm not watching your cringe compilation
>I-I'm n-not sam
imagine talking about a children's movie and trying to appeal to authority and that authority isn't an author, isn't a director, isn't an academic.

it's a fucking faggot making youtube videos

When I was 11 I would have have agreed with this. The older I got the more I began to realize that the second act is boring and drags on. The throne room stuff is the best of Star Wars. Jabba stuff is okay but it also kind of drags on. The Death Star and space battle was amazing for its time and was still amazing all the way up until the mid 90s when CGI surpassed it. All those ships, garbage mattes aside. That was quite a feat for the very early 80s.

Nowadays I think Star Wars is best, Empire is second, and Jedi is third tied with RotS. I used to hate the prequels but they’ve grown on me and RotS has a lot of enjoyable bits.

Kasdan is a fucking hack. For example, it's hilarious how much ownership of Han he takes. Like he made the character from gound up when all the important shit with Han was done in ANh. Outside of "I know" which he didn't even write and actually resented at the time, all Han does in ESB is pester Leia for a kiss and dicks around Cloud City.
But, 25 years later he got his wishes, I guess.

Victory Celebration > Yub Nub

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eh, I agree.

Sam Witwer is a fucking actor in Star Wars you retard

the battle of endor still hasn't been outdone by CGI 2bh desu

Its weird. Because the new ones very clearly try to mimic the older posters... Maybe thats part of it?

Maybe not CGI per se because they still use models and I can’t think of anything comparable that’s purely CGI at the moment.

It would certainly look a lot better without the visible garbage matte lines. A couple of explosions look fake like the one up inside the under part of a star destroyer. And the A-Wing crash into the super star destroyer. Which was apparently a Jeep.

I wonder what the battle would look like if they went back and digitally re-composited everything digitally from the original effects negatives. Probably wouldn’t look right since the generation loss from composting optically was factored in the look of those models. Apparently they even used licensed consumer MPC models for some of the background craft

I always enjoy seeing pictures of old school movie sets. Its all so interesting. Quite unlike today when its just a bunch of actors in front of a green screen. Really wish the idustry would switch back to more practical effects.

I know the end battle in RoTS gets alot of flak. But its unironcally one of my favorite scenes in all of SW. Its probaboy helped alot by Mcgregors acting at the end of it all. But still.

Star Wars was so popular in the 80's, they used to play Yub nub on top 40 radio when ROTJ came out.

>tfw we will never see movie posters like this again

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If it wasn’t for the Ewoks, it would be a 9-10/10 Star Wars movie. I love the scenes inside the throne room so much.

Instead of a solid 10/10? Since there's nothing wrong with the ewoks.

Basically the Ewoks reveals how autistic a fan is. Seriously if the presence of Ewoks is enough to completely ruin the movie for you, good chance you have autism.

I never realized how much I missed that song.
Also I found the scene with OP's mom.

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Faggot children’s cartoons are not real Star Wars. I don’t give a shit what Disney says, rebels is for children and retarded fat faggot neck beards. So sick of people shilling that cartoon series.

They just really throw me off and take away from the serious tone of the throne room.

It's by far the weakest OT movie.

Yes it has some great scenes but half of the movie is a mess. Endor battle is retarded. Han has no purpose in the movie. Entire ending is stupid and doesn't even explain why Rebels suddenly win when 3/4 of Imperial fleet is untouched.

It's a great movie from technical side and some of the effects were groundbreaking for the time, but plot is incredibly weak.

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Same people who defend Lucas and prequels probably never saw OT in true version, only some idiotic CGI infested special edition trash.

Anyone claiming that IV and V are not the best and pretty much only good SW movies is completely retarded or underage.

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Ewoks are only one of the problems.

I gave Rebels a chance but just gave up few episodes in. It was idiotic.

Yea, Strutter was the only one who looked semi- normal

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I like them all equally, but ROTJ haters or people who say it was when Star Wars started to go downhill are plebs of the highest degree.

they make more sense if you watch empire first, you should give it a try

dude, at some point I had twelve copies of differente restoration projects of ESB

It absolutely was the start. It's the point where merchandising and stupid action is more important than everything else.

What's this stance called?

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Wrong and you are a pleb of the highest degree

The Lucas

this is actually the best version of it
youtube.com/watch?v=d97fTlTLAzU

The skinny coke whore

It's a power stance he invented himself.
People usually just refer to it as The Lucas.

There's deleted scenes that the emperor was turning the death start to blow up endor.

The worst thing about this social media age is autistic contrarians like you.

I'm a contrarian because I like ROTJ? Kys

>when it would have done nothing for the movie

It would have done a lot for the movie and make it feel like good guys had to make real sacrifices on the way instead of auto winning everything with teddy bears help.

It does flow better as a movie than ANH and Empire, I'll say that much.

But best? I dunno man. The endor battle is lame (the planetside part not the space battle) and so many good scenes got cut out

Holy buzzwords

prequel apologists are so cringy

Space battle is also lame. Executor's destruction is one of the most idiotic scenes in the trilogy. Not to mention entire battle makes no sense. Even with DS gone Rebels should get fucked.

Fpbp

It is. Fuck the ewok-haters. RotJ was the best end to the story.

>fuck the haters

An instant way to know if you should ever take someone's opinion seriously.

They were being massacred left and right and almost lost it all right at the end. A main character didn't need to die to validate anything

There is a lot of semi-nudity in Jabba's Palace from various female characters and quite a bit of violence. I think RoTJ is the most risqué of the original three regardless of things like Ewoks. Just look at the costumes of the Twi'lek dancers.

OPFPBP

It's literally the worst, next to Solo.

Prequels>

Agreed.

OP is based and a chad.

Ask Lucas, since he removed it from the Special Special Edition.

Eh, I think the fact that Luke isn't distracted by anything but his father and willing to die for him is central to the throne room scenes, which are the height of the Star Wars movies IMO.
The battle on Endor is a nice counterweight in being lighthearted and action-y rather than tense and sombre. The only weak part is the space battle not really having any stakes to it and just going on in the background.

All the prequels movies were a cash grab for children

At least Episode 4 and 5 had soul

Ask Leia

what even is this power ranking and why is revenge of the sith the lowest out of the three prequels

Yub nub is unironically great.
Not as great as the song it got replaced with, but still great.

>Darth Vader's my father...Your Father...And you're my sister...Somehow I've always known...
Really??? With that kind of writing...Best?

>what really matters is AESTHETIC

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underrated post

i thought so too until revenge of the sith came out. lucas made sheev even better.

I tought it was because of costumes budget, as for one wookie pelt they could have 3 ewoks and leftovers

It's not even just that.
Luke literally says "Your overconfidence is your weakness." to the Emperor.
Guess what? The Emperor planned everything. His plan went as such:
>Allow single shuttle of rebels down onto the surface
>Let them try and sabotage my shield generator
>Little will they know that I have a full complement of my elite Stormtroopers waiting for them, more than enough to deal with a measly shuttle load of rebel scum
And then that Stormtrooper group that was sent down with nothing more than a single shuttle worth of rebels in mind for them to face, who were numbered out by the Emperor who in his overconfidence was certain that 'pathethic little creatures' like the Ewoks are of absolutely no consequence got their shit kicked in when the entire fucking forest turned on them Viet Cong style under the organization of the rebel scum.

I just watch fast reviews from ecelebs XD

I wouldn't call being in Disney Wars being an actor in Star Wars, but in this instance someone included by Disney is actually right and not a complete faggot.
Too bad he's going to be relegated to play the most nothing character in any future movies he's in.

>Kasdan is an edgy faggot

Jesus Christ...what a hack.

Jedi was ruined by Ewoks

Sith is objectively the best of all the movies, even with the shitty recap at the very end

>Sith is shitty and massively overrated

FTFY

>Disney wars
He was acting in Star Wars 5 years before the Disney buy out you smoothbrain

can't let the keyboard exercise go to waste
have a (you)

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Sorry, just looked it up, apprently he was in the kids show that turned Darth Maul into a cyborg spider.
Regardless, that's still about as much "being in Star Wars" as Seth MacFarlane being a background extra means he was a "real Star Trek Cast Member".
Hell, the Orville serves as more justification for being a Star Trek cast member than his cameo appearances.

>Luc'n

Not exactly, Lucas and PT faggotry only happened when it became clear the Disney shows were shit.

He was also the main character in the 2007 game Star Wars The Force Unleashed where they used his likeness for galen marek

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Ah yeah, he was in that game that they dumped the entire production of what could have been the last hope for a good Indiana Jones game for.
Cool.

Wookies were too advanced for the primitive culture Lucas wanted to convey. Money was no object by the time ROTJ was being fleshed out.

>all this cope to avoid admitting he was dead fucking wrong after getting btfo multiple times
how embarrassing

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the death scene of Darth Vader was pretty kino

youtube.com/watch?v=McUwVg6MfOk

only real good parts of rotj were the ones concerning vader and luke, you can fast forward through the rest

1997 ending best ending

t.Seething trol'd faggot

>The entire Empire was overthrown because they lost one battle.
>tfw Sheev is the queen ant, and he died it all fell apart.

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There's a distinct lack of green pusy alien GFs in this thread, what's going on?

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I don't think naboo was in the 90s ending, just coruscant.
There's one up on youtube that has naboo in the ending, but a lot of commenst are saying that naboo wasn't in that version.

I prefer orange pussy alien gfs thank you very much

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I know that Tatooine, Bespin, AND Coruscant - which had not yet been unveiled in a movie prior to TPM's release which was a year or two away - at least were in the original SE, so it's not altogether implausible that Naboo was in there too if Coruscant could be.

Luke also force chokes the gamorreans, jabba gets strangled by a chain, the scene with the rancor is pretty gnarly and then the whole emperor torturing Luke thing.

They were also all surprisingly chill about the fact that Luke and Leia had brother-sister sex.

I meant just coruscant as just that of the PT planets, not that bespin and tattooine weren't there.

fuck I'll think I have to check my vhs tapes to make sure. It's not implausible that naboo was there, but I think it wasn't and it seems like a decent amount of other people online think it too. Maybe it's just the "weesa" from the 2004 that confuses those people and me.

What I've heard is that someone decided huge wookiees duking it out with mere storm troopers would be too violent for a family-oriented movie, so it was changed to little cuddly natives instead to keep things child-friendly.

Everybody knows incest is true love.

Don't worry, they're around.

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>teddy bear dance party
>empire defeated by stuffed animal army
>Han Solo stands in front of a door for the entire 3rd act

In spite of the man-faces I still would so hard. It's my dream

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Stop fucking posting on a board called Yea Forums you pleb.

I agree.

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