Can we please talk about the magic system

"No!"

What retard thought it was a clever idea to hand literal weapons to children? Anyone can torture or kill will a wand, seriously i think it's time to ban all wands

Dumbledore was a principal, he didn't have one. But what he did have was tons of cock up his ass.

Purebloods pay 0% income, halfbloods pay 12%, Mudbloods pay 50%, and house elves pay 100% in exchange for free room and board

This is canon

If magic originates from the wand itself, than technically speaking there could've been a person who had one or more prothetic limbs, made out of magical parts, who didn't even need to hold a wand to cast magic.
All the person would need to do is raise thier artificial finger or hand and do the motions with it.

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Good point. Do wizarding schools in the far east use the same spells?

any good Dumbledore gay fanfiction, asking for a friend

that's a regressive tax rate if I've ever seen one

Seconding this, but specifically Dumbledore/Wormtail fics

everyone knows magic doesn't originate from the wand. don't be obtuse.

There was a horror book about this industrial equipment that was accidentally brought to life because of all the 'magical materials' people accidentally dumped or lost inside of it over the years.
The factory had bats, so that added guano. One lady lost her allergy medicine that contained an extract of a chemical that came from belladona. A virgin girl sliced open her hand on the machine, getting her blood inside.
Eventually, just the right mix of shit got in there to randomly summon a demon that possessed it.
It was all fucked up, and pretty entertaining to read.

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But you DO need a wand to cast spells, so it might as well

An interesting question, but not even magic laws are as boring as the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Seriously each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

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I was under the impression there was a HP equivalent of midichlorians. Casting spells is just a matter of channeling their magical energy, and it's the intent rather the actual words which determines the spell.

they shit in the floor and magic it into muggle sewerage systems

Is Harry Potter the worst protagonist ever? He himself never accomplishes anything. He just gets handed everything he needs by his family/friends/convenient strangers.

This is objectively false. We saw Harry use magic well before he even knew he was a wizard. Think about the zoo and the disappearing/reappearing glass.

It makes NO fucking sense. Is it a magical language? No, it's in the wands, except it isn't, because some people can do magic without wands. Is it pure willpower? Belief? No, it just works. Magic doesn't need to be scientifically dissected, that's against the idea of magic, but what it does need are some limits or rules imposed on the power available or the caster, even in folklore you need very specific things to make magic work, but in Harry Potter, it's bullshit with the veneer of magic. It's lazy as shit, terrible for children, fed to to them at face value. Kids have amazing imaginations, give them something to work with, HP doesn't work.

Except that one time Harry wanted to go with Ron to Diagon Alley, but he misspoke and ended up in DAAGHHANILLILY

No father figure to guide into actual art huh

In a series where the main appeal is the comfy slice-of-life school shit? Why?

The wand is just a magical instrument that acts as a focal point. You can do magic without it, but the wand makes it more direct and easier.

Why were Fred & George not concerned in Chamber of Secrets when their sister kept disappearing into uncharted areas of the school?
Plus why were they alright with their brother sleeping with a man in his bed for the two or so years they had the Map before lending it to Harry?
And how was Peter able to hide from Remus for so long after he got the Map off Harry?

Lastly, since they established in the second book/film (and confirmed in the 7th) that a basilisk fang could destroy a horcrux, the Diary Tom almost destroyed a fellow horcrux. And could Harry not die as long as he had that fragment of Voldemort's soul inside him, apart from designated horcrux-destroying items like the Sword of Gryffindor? Voldemort destroyed the part of him inside Harry when he hit him with the Elder Wand (which means the Elder Wand can destroy horcruxes and would have killed Harry as well if not for the ownership rule on it).

This series keeps me up at night with these things, and this is before Rowling started adding things like Dobby's 13-inch penis.

Agreed. Honestly, I think children have likely been turned away from magic ENTIRELY because of the incomprehensible system Rowling forced on them.

It's not all Latin, the Romans probably just invented more spells than most other cultures

wands are a focus, not all magic uses them and most wizards have poorly controlled pre-wand training magic. voldy was even using his in a pretty structured way by the time he got initiated into the magic world

it's both, the very first spell they're taught is finicky about its pronunciation

Pretty sure a wand is just to focus their magic

Why did the Weasleys have an oven

No caps poster is a low IQ roastie that was laughed out of Yea Forums

Why didn't Hermoine's parents live in the magical world, and kept a job that was made irrelevant by magic?

this tbqh

Pies are incredibly difficult to bake using magic, almost no wizards have accomplished this feat

that all makes sense when you understand she was making literally everything up from one book to the next. the weirdest thing that she must have just completely blanked on is fred and george seeing pettigrew on the map in their common room every night and that was all within one book so she's got no excuse

>wizards speak funny words, right?
>wizards have wands, right?
That is the ABSOLUTE extent to which Rowling thought about any of this. It's all flash, no substance, no creativity.

wow, this is some western chauvinism right here.

did you ever look at the weasley's teeth? evidently there are no dentistry spells.

Queenie made some pretty fucking advanced pastry for Jacob in Fantastic Beasts.

I haven’t seen it, is it better than Harry Potter

Using the floo isn't a spell though (it doesn't require a wand, or an incantation, and kids can do it outside of school time without getting in trouble), the Ministry controls the network of fireplaces and the powder is just some kind of activator for the mechanism which accepts a location and routes you to it.

>be JK Rowling
>want to keep books relevant
>tweet a few things
>nerds get instantly worked into a seething shoot

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I find that hard to believe. Most of us read the series/watch the movies as children, so it's more likely that we just didn't notice/appreciate the finer intricacies of the magic system.

why is this series so fucking garbage?

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in the books and movies we clearly see that all of the most powerful magic users are wizards. what is the official canon? are witches weaker than wizards? (magically, obviously they're weaker physically)

Harold Bloom doesn’t understand literature

Plus, we’re talking about the movies, not the books, retard.

Well Arthur worked in what was essentially the Muggle Studies section of the Ministry and apparently Molly didn't have a job. Their eldest two, Charlie and Bill, had already established their lives by the start of Harry's first year. Percy got a job at the Ministry right out of Hogwarts but doesn't seem to associate with his family much, so I guess Arthur's income was their sole source of money (which must've been hard in year 5 when Arthur was in the hospital).

On another note, Hermoine knew a glasses-repairing spell, I'm sure she learned one to fix teeth but since these are the Brits we're talking about that's probably the 4th unforgivable curse.

The movies are just as shit though

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Ginny Weasley is literally the physically strongest character in the books

Minus giant mutts like Hagrid

It's a book series for tweens, I don't know what you were expecting. Hiw well did Twilight, Maze Runner, Hunger Games, and Divergent do?

Compare that to LotR.

I was being serious here. The books were written by a very outspoken liberal woman, so why would all the most powerful characters be men?

This is false. Rowling have written EXTENSIVELY about influential women in the Wizarding world. Unfortunately, the male dominated faculty at Hogwarts do a poor job conveying this to students.

there were spells to fix her teeth that she knew about, she just didn't want to disappoint her parents by "cheating" at it, she eventually used an excuse in the fourth book to do it

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Amelia Bones is pretty powerful, Voldemort had to kill her himself because she kept BTFOing the Death Eaters sent after her. And lets not forget Lily Potter imbibed Harry with some kind of protection that completely stumped both Voldemort and Dumbledore.

Critics are idiots and bought and paid for by Time Warner

I was being serious too.

Ginny Weasley has serious, gorilla-like upper body strength.

that wasn't my question. prof mcgonagall could whoop the shit out of 90% of the magic users on earth. I'm asking if witches have the capacity to be as strong as or stronger than the most powerful wizards.

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Yes. Many of the most powerful sorcerers were in fact women.

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Why wasn't there anyone using a staff instead of a wand? You'd think there'd be SOME Wizards using staffs. Just make a longer thicker wand.

What are you on about? HP magic has plenty of limitations and rules

Mad Eye Moody did

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Here's a tip for Pottermore amateurs:
Slytherin = Republicans

You're welcome.

>As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."
>A character
You haven't read the books, nor did the person who wrote this. The only POV is harrys so its not like there are other people going for walks.

>can we please talk about the magic system
"No!"

???? Are you being serious? "western chauvinism" fuck yourself thirdworlder faggot, romans and greeks were far FAR more impactful on human history than fucking chinks and russians. jesus fucking christ I hope this is bait, I've never been more tilted in my fucking life before.

why didn't they just use a time turner to stop voldemort from ever acquiring power in the first place? or go back to when he was first starting, but before he made his ash nazgs, and kill him then?

this is unironically the plot of the play

time travel was a closed loop in the books and movies so there really was nothing they could do. then Cursed Child shat all over that.