Netflix is literally yify-tier quality. Pic related, look at the compression artifacts in this grainy film. Literally unwatchable, how can plebs stand this?
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This is supposedly 1080p, the highest quality available in the web player. And it looks like a yify encode
It's streaming shit.
but film grain is kino
16mm looks like shit at low bit rates. Something about the grain.
Uhm. Fuck you?
We need Pied Piper's algorithm.
are mouse fingers typing this?
Make sure you're watching with internet explorer. Microjew made sure to shill their shitty browser correctly so HD in Netflix only works with IE.
1080p bluray cap downscaled to 720, watermarked and reencoded to jpg as a sample.
"1080p" Netflix cap - looks worse than a re-encoded downscale.
isn't it supposed to look like that?
autism? autism.
I'm using github.com
They took away the hidden option that let you switch to different bitrates too. Every god damn time my streams start to look like early YouTube videos after about 10 minutes despite me having a gigabyte connection. Used to be able to fix that but not since they disabled it in December.
Looks more like a bad upscale to me. The grain is exacerbated but there's no serious blocking.
Look at the grain: the Netflix stream is compressed to hell and back and loses any fine detail turning grain to blocky compression artifacts.
Because we don’t give a shit we just want some that looks vaguely similar to our shitty lives
We The Animals was also shot on 16mm and the Netflix stream doesn't look so bad. They really fuck up some films for some reason.
They probably got a lower res digital source and blew up the resolution. No amount of bitrate will fix a shitty source and if you're not putting a ton of compute into it you're better off streaming a lower res not-transcoded video and running a simple cheap software transform on it locally anyway.
Normal people don't watch Netflix 10 inches from a computer screen you autistic faggot.
The 720p stream looks just as bad as the 1080. Are you saying their source is
It's a dynamic bitrate but you can set it manually with Control-Shift-Option-S.
I gotta appreciate it when the technical guys come out and articulate why exactly when im watching something im thinking “man it just looks shitty and I cant put my finger on it”. Same thing goes for when its good.
See Already the max.
Netflix doesn't have any control over what sources they're licensing. You can manually select '1080p' on things that never even got a DVD release. They might use better scalers than shit built into video players and TVs, but it doesn't look like they did for this particular thing. Maybe they got upscaled by the distributor too.
Awe shit sorry user I didn't see.
Doesn't AMAZON have higher bitrates than NETFLIX?
Oh and not saying there aren't artifacts but they're possibly lossy-to-lossy transcoding artifacts. Its not blocking and it doesn't look bit starved.
A) neck yourself shill
B) amazon has even less reliable licensing contracts than netflix so the quality is all over the place.
On the bright side it can help bad cgi compositing look better.
Old cam rip of Matrix Reloaded was perfect for this.
Amazon's Star Trek TNG seems better than Netflix
Sometimes AMZN rips are higher quality than Bluray encodes
okay chill bezos i didn't say it was all bad. Amazon has a lot of sub-licensed TV-edits and shit on there even when film distributor sources are available. There's no way to know what the fuck you'll watch on there. It's a crap shoot.
The TNG deal was probly signed way after netflix's so got more modern rips/encodes maybe.
>web player
there's your problem poornigger get a roku and enjoy super HD
At the bitrate Netflix encodes at, I seriously doubt 4k is any better. More like "4k".
not talking about 4k, but you get real 1080p with streaming devices like roku
>roku
Are these still 60hz devices?
Netflix is terrible. Every 4K stream I tested was capped at 15.26 mbps. Just fucking awful, my oldass blu rays are double that and my physical 4Ks hit almost a 100. Netflix and vudu sell a scam.
Maybe it's just because 4k is a meme and they're not going to spend any fucking money on it.
>1080p
>looks worse than 720p
Really makes you think.
>streaming is bad quality to save money
stop the fucking presses
Yeah, but consumerist plebs are adopting streaming as the future despite it having literally worse quality than films like Lawrence of Arabia screen in 70mm decades ago.
Netflix uses HEVC so streaming at 15.26 mbps is good quality video for streaming.
Depends on the film.
>Netflix uses HEVC
For 4k, which requires hardware DRM for playback on PC.
>4k is a meme
What are you fucking blind idiot? Or too poor to have an actual 4k setup? Either way it's clear you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground and should just stfu and go get a job.
Yikes
They can afford to.
Hehe streamers are starving physical media of revenue making it unprofitable for them to invest in further non-streaming avenues. Soon there will be no high quality video, just low quality high resolution streams.
Nah, they're still feeling the loss of physical stores. Burn-on-demand DVDs are still 99% profit, just not the 5000% profit they want.
I don't know what content is not HEVC now, they use it on most of their content now afaik
Not only 4K, and no you don't need a HEVC Microsoft licence, what you need is Microsoft Edge and a 4K Netflix plan + any GPU that supports HEVC.
I can see from your screenshot that you are streaming trough Chrome, which does not support the full Netflix resolution.
Bitrate needs vary with content, also TV manufacturers are pushing for higher framerates for some stupid reason, may influence streams I dunno offhand.
Considering how long DVD has lasted, I'd say BluRay will be around for a long time.
Bitrate is a big meme yes, reasons for high bitrate in older blu-ray content is lazy color compression and geometry. Most high-quality rips are able to reduce size of blu-rays to 1/4 with no real loss in quality.
>TV manufacturers are pushing for higher framerates for some stupid reason
It's for multi-purpose television including gaming and live broadcasts (sports), it won't really have an effect on streaming as it seems content makers of film and tv seem to shy away from higher frame rates. Also current processing technology of TVs can mimic smoothness more effectively for every generation so there isn't really any need for an increase in framerates as it is a problem that can be solved with more processing power.
normies don't care
netflix could basically use actual yify rips and nobody would care, beside few autists at /r/movies
it's all about the convenience.
I mean you talk about normies not caring, but in this thread you have people screenshotting their "results" from Chrome who don't even know about basic issues with browser streaming that has been known for years for anyone who cares. Literally, everyone who has browsed related boards on Reddit would know the fault in doing that.
Yea Forums, home of the real normies.
netflix wasn't designed for computer screens. it's meant to be watched on tiny ass phone screens or on tv's from 3 meters away. just torrent that shit mate
>from Chrome
It's Firefox, and it's irrelevant because you can get 1080p playback in browser as shown in web console, but it looks like shit anyway.
>been known for years
No, streaming adopting is only increasing, and the shit quality is supposedly 1080p/4k but in in reality overcompressed garbage. Nobody seems to care, physical bluray sales are dying and movies shot on film and screen non-digitally are becoming more and more scarce. Even Nolan's films, who shoots on 70mm, are largely screened digitally because few cinemas have working 70mm projectors.
are all of you retarded? do you not know what's been going on in film recently?
the film grain is a creative choice, no matter how many fucking kil-o-bytes you got or how well you encoded it, it's always gonna look that grainy, this type of stuff has been going on more and more recently, same with the 4x3 aspect ratio that the Jonah Hill movie was shot in. it's supposed to make it look more nostalgic and evoke a sense of feeling of memory. or directors just use it to try to stand out, either way, this whole thread is full of mongoloids
I think you are confused, if the grain is on the film and higher quality makes it more apparent, then you're just being a fucking retard. JPG artifacts don't come in the form of grain, film grain is natural when its shot on fucking film you IDIOT.
Compression algorithms are actually pretty bad at dealing with fine details like film grain. You can see actual artifacting in the top image.
>can't notice video compression if you are looking at social media on your phone the whole time
the female strategy
I think the OP is complaining about the grain in itself, and yeah there are artifacts but I'm 100% sure that this isn't noticeable when in motion. This idiot is just upset because Carol was shot on grainy film.
I like yify. I also prefer 720p torrents due to small size. Kill yourself, fussy cunt.
if there was no grain present the compression artifacts would be way more pronounced. grain helps hiding digital artifacts a lot
but the grain is clearly less apparent on the higher res video
>Watch netlix on my 4K 55' Bravia that I payed too much for
>pay couple of bucks more for "4K"
>environment is slightly darker
>full of fucking grain
WHY DON'T THEY FUCKING USE 4K RED CAMERAS?!?!?!?!?!
I prefer quality over convenience which is why I buy physical copies, preferably blu-ray, of my kinos and pirate everything else that either doesn't have a physical release or that I don't want a physical copy of
You can't justify paying for digital distribution, if you don't care about physical copies then you should be exclusively pirating. If you pay for digital distribution then you are financially rewarding and voting with your wallet for low quality
Quality > Convenience
Physical copies > digital distribution
Death to anyone who thinks otherwise
Death to Netflix and all other digital distribution companies
>You can't justify paying for digital distribution
it's convenient to have a selection of movies so you don't have to actively seek out titles or kee up with releases plus you can watch stuff on your phone. come to think of it, these are points a shut-in neet wouldn't get
tier 1 ISPs are going to fuck netflix :^]
Just so you know, Netflix doesn't stream higher than 720 p on a web browser. You need to download the desktop app to stream 1080p and 4k.
>64 and 96 Audio Bitrate
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHHHHH
its called indie
That’s obviously a stylistic choice, I haven’t seen another Netflix movie that looks like that and wasn’t deliberate
I bet its fun to hate on netflix because you know the rest of the world who actually go outside adore it.
Carol looks like a as because it was shot on 16mm film. It looks bad everywhere.
>Literally unwatchable
Not really, you little whiny bitch
you're complaining about video quality used by plebs who watch feature films on their iphone screen.
typical drone
are you on netflix basic subscription? to get proper hd you need at least their second option